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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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Coinbase...lol
Putting their "hand' on the scale:
Much bigger fees to exchange USDT to USD  vs exchanging USDT to USDC...to promote USDC?
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Wow !!!



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February 07, 2025, 04:49:14 PM

🇨🇿 Czech President signed a law removing the capital gains tax on #Bitcoin after 3+ years of holding.

https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1887495804224495968?t=M7ORkYO_5_qIfkaaUSRI2w&s=19
The Czech Republic just made hodling a national sport.

None of any taxes after three years, plus zero tax below hundred grand is better than what we currently have, thats all! Forcing people to hold for more than three years is damn already bullish. Therefore, anyone in the Czech Republic who chooses to do this will more than likely be in profit or at least close to it, this should encourage more people who do choose take advantage of this new policy to better understand Bitcoin and increase adoption. Afterall, I can sense a solid progress that what the government did.

If I am mistaken, the first country in the EU to pass such a law was Germany, where that period is 1 year, in Croatia it is twice as long and amounts to 2 years - while there was a lot of talk about how Portugal and Slovenia are very friendly when it comes to laws on taxation of cryptocurrencies, but I am not sure if that is still the case.

3 years isn't a lot, but it's not a little either - but anyone who invests for a longer period will certainly appreciate not having to pay capital gains tax after that period. Even though it sometimes seems that the EU as a whole is not very friendly towards cryptocurrencies, things still need to be looked at from country to country.
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If I am mistaken, the first country in the EU to pass such a law was Germany, where that period is 1 year, in Croatia it is twice as long and amounts to 2 years - while there was a lot of talk about how Portugal and Slovenia are very friendly when it comes to laws on taxation of cryptocurrencies, but I am not sure if that is still the case.
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Yes 1 year in Germany but this law doesn't revere directly to bitcoin. This is called a "privates Veräußerungsgeschäft" (private sale transaction) and applies also for gold and other stuff.
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If I am mistaken, the first country in the EU to pass such a law was Germany, where that period is 1 year, in Croatia it is twice as long and amounts to 2 years - while there was a lot of talk about how Portugal and Slovenia are very friendly when it comes to laws on taxation of cryptocurrencies, but I am not sure if that is still the case.
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Yes 1 year in Germany but this law doesn't revere directly to bitcoin. This is called a "privates Veräußerungsgeschäft" (private sale transaction) and applies also for gold and other stuff.

...we (US) pay tax on offshore income (only 2 countries do this), we pay tax on UNLIMITED term duration holdings (and this tax on cap gains is NOT inflation-adjusted re proceeds) and we have a pitiful $3000 allowance for cap loss per year. So, if you lost 100K in cap loss, good luck to get it back...in 33 years (if no cap gains occur).

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Yeah amazing, but can you please resize the image a little? Its a non sense to post it in that resolution/size.

Seems like you know how to do it, but just in case for anyone else, here is a little tutorial. OR super easy here.


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February 07, 2025, 05:37:33 PM

If you have money, you can buy a new car now.
But if I had the money, I would buy Bitcoin now. Because when your car is old, I will own the car company.
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If I am mistaken, the first country in the EU to pass such a law was Germany, where that period is 1 year, in Croatia it is twice as long and amounts to 2 years - while there was a lot of talk about how Portugal and Slovenia are very friendly when it comes to laws on taxation of cryptocurrencies, but I am not sure if that is still the case.
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Yes 1 year in Germany but this law doesn't revere directly to bitcoin. This is called a "privates Veräußerungsgeschäft" (private sale transaction) and applies also for gold and other stuff.

...we (US) pay tax on offshore income (only 2 countries do this), we pay tax on UNLIMITED term duration holdings (and this tax on cap gains is NOT inflation-adjusted re proceeds) and we have a pitiful $3000 allowance for cap loss per year. So, if you lost 100K in cap loss, good luck to get it back...in 33 years (if no cap gains occur).

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you manage it as best you can. I am sitting on a 52k carryover loss so I can cash a lot of corn this year.

tax free.
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February 07, 2025, 07:47:04 PM

Here, we have no house.  Therefore if we were to enter into a bet, we can agree to whatever we believe is reasonable, and yeah, we might not agree that the level of disagreement rises enough to be bettable.

Since Bitcointalk is fairly a decentralized platform where we can communicate without any censorship. So you are right in saying that there is no house here. But keep this in mind that in real life gambling, house is always the winner.   

If you  are certain, then you should be willing to give 10:1 odds are maybe even greater odds than that, especially if you are certain.  I hate to bet on down, but if the odds are great enough, then I would not be able to resist.  We would not have to have a large bet... it could be something like 0.0001 on the low end (mine) and 0.001 on the high end, yours or some other amount that we might mutually agree..  One of the problems could be figuring out when the bet ends.. so of course, I would win if the BTC price touches any price below $90k .. such as $89,999 or lower (Bitstamp is ONLY measuring in whole dollars), and you would win by the end of 2026 (or something like that) if the BTC spot price does not touch below $90k.  I am pretty sure the bet should resolve before the end of 2026, or maybe I could concede that you won if we reach $333,333 or greater prior to touching below $90k?

I have to wait till end of 2026 to get my money that's a much log wait. Reduce the timeline to one month or something near to that, so we conclude this well in time. Two years wait is quite long my friend.

Another interesting idea.  Will the BTC price be over or under $200k in January 2027.  The odds are probably less than 50/50 that the BTC price will be above $200k in January 2027, but surely not so strong to be bettable. 

On the other hand, the odds are probably quite a bit higher 50% that the bitcoin price will go above $200k at some point between now and January 2027.

in gambling, odds can be deceiving. In case of bitcoin, most predictions are wrong.

There is no way we can ascertain future price range of bitcoin, we can only predict and that can be right or wrong. There is consent among the community that bitcoin price will continue to go up with passage of time. May be by Jan 2027 price of Bitcoin go above 300k.

May be you can join me on my dinner today that has to much carbs. It's ok to have a cheat meal once in a while hahahaha


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February 07, 2025, 07:59:18 PM

[...]You are saying that the price would have to be $200k or greater on January 1, 2027?
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A bit irrelevant comment, but I see three approaches to this time scale:

HoDLers: maintaining their stash, ladder up/down, 200-WMA going up forever. <-- Long-term WIN. <-- I am here.

Risk-takers: selling large chunk @ cycle top (Q4 2025) & re-buying @ cycle bottom (Q4 2026). <-- Risky BIG-WIN. <-- LFC is here.

Mindrusters: selling all @ local bottom ("Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."). <-- Certain LOSS. <-- Hopefully, no WOer is here.

Even though you seem to have had touched upon the main and/or relevant categories, I would suggest that there are probably quite a few variations of these categories - maybe even up to 10.. we have more extremes of those who buy BTC and never sell (ever) and those at the bottom who never buy ever... ...even within your LFC category.. he would likely claim to not be a risk taker  since he "ONLY" sold around 25% of his stash (supposedly) in the last round, but yeah I can see how his category is different from the slower sellers...but then might be arguing nuances and perhaps talking about mindsets rather than getting into so many variations in execution.   
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#Bitcoin is growing faster than the Internet.




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