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$160K - 2 (1.9%)
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February 08, 2025, 09:38:10 PM
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Re trading...I used to trade a LOT on the stock market, especially when I just started (late in the last century).
In one year i had about 1000 trades and not much cap gains to show, albeit I was quite 'profitable', still.
Later on, life showed me that it is not the quantity of your trades, but their quality that could give you an edge.
That was a second period with some trades, but not too many.

In bitcoin, every time I tried to trade it, it went spectacularly bad as far as timing is concerned, especially in 2017 when I listened to Vinny and sold some btc: not a large %, but still...
Basically, I sold at then ATH only to see it go up 16X in the SAME year. I did something active with the proceeds so did not "lose" all that appreciation, but it was annoying as i traded when i shouldn't had to.

After that, I practically did not trade btc at all: not selling or significant buying, just hodling and small time mining with small buying as well.
Instead, I trade stocks to 'scratch' that itch, but not too much trading occurs.
In fact, I rarely even look at individual stocks midday, albeit I could never become one of the bogleheads with 70/30 VTI/BND allocation-it would bore me to smithereens.

However, lately, I start getting a bit of an urge to sell some btc, but with my prior 'history' I know that exactly when I want to sell (or soon after) btc is prone to rally  Cheesy.
I guess one reason to potentially consider selling is a bad market configuration overall with SP500 being extended about 2X from the average P/E plus tariffs "war", etc, etc.
However, the timing of a mean-adjustment could take years and not affect btc prices much, eliminating the need to sell any btc soon.

In our area, house prices seem to decline a little bit currently or at least people are getting discounts.
The economy might be slowing down a little as well, but it is not clear if markets would throw a fit, decline 30% and "demand" lower interest rates soon.
In such scenario, bitcoin would decline first, but then would be prone to a pop up due to new QE, just like it did in 2020.
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February 08, 2025, 09:44:50 PM
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#Bitcoin is simply a matter of time.


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February 08, 2025, 10:22:34 PM

I love your assertion. Bitcoin is certainly a matter of time and consistency. Going back to what the price of Bitcoin was in the past years it's so obvious that Bitcoin will perfectly do better than what we are seeing now in the future and those that are able to invest in Bitcoin now will be riding on white horses in the future because of the level of their financial stability and the profit that the Bitcoin they are accumulating now will yield in the future.
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If you only have 10 BTC and follow the current pattern - sell at $100k, buy as close to $90k as possible and you will profit around $100k every time the cycle repeats - imagine those who do this with thousands or tens of thousands of BTC, easy money, right?
Sounds more like a quick way to lose money!... Not even sure where to start with this one... Slippage/TAX/Fees, not to mention Bitcoin DGAF about patterns!

and yeah OK if you had 10,000BTC ($1B), you really spending your time trying to add a measly 0.1BTC to your stash.

Frequently, these traders are pie in the sky nutjobs, and your response reminded me that his two extremes are unrealistic, yet if we have a guy who already reached his accumulation goal.. let's say 21 BTC, and maybe he has 35 BTC, so maybe he might sell 0.5 BTC or something like that around $100k and then see what happens.. especially since it is extra BTC... If nothing happens, then he has an extra $50k that he can spend, and if the price goes down he ends up buying back and ends up with 0.0555555 more BTC... and I am ONLY saying this in terms of the guy not giving any shits either way, since with my hypothetical the guy has more bitcoin than he needs or wants with 35 BTC, and with  a 0.5 BTC sale, he is merely selling about 1.5% of his stash.

As I mentioned with OOM earlier, I would prefer the guy to be selling on the way up rather than on the way down, so maybe the guy sold on one of the earlier price runs to the upside, and I also prefer selling smaller amounts, but I am not totally opposed to 1.5% sale if we are considering our price run from $70k to $100k-ish.. that is something like 43% up.. so sure, no  problem with that (if we might have presumed he sold another 1.5% at some earlier point, perhaps around $70k.. and yeah, the sales might start to add up.. or maybe he has a rule about every 50% raise, he can sell 1.5% of his stash, and that would be reasonable.   I also still believe that selling BTC at our around $100k is not a very great place to be selling with any expectations to buy back, since that seems to be so much the talking point of so many "smarter than everyone else traders" who have the "sure trade" of selling at $100k, even though I am a bit unclear about their buying back point... perhaps $70k-ish?  I continue to have doubts about that trade working out.

getting ready to buy some corn just a little lower

Source. and elements canva.
If you buy some corn now, it will turn into popcorn after a few days and its size will be several times larger.
is it still considered corn?
Sure why not.
I NEED it to drop to 89 or lower I will load up

You have been in bitcoin for 12 years (or is it 13 years?) and you still don't gots enough?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Breaking the buddy with this nice AI jingle... the music it generates isn't bad at all (I did write the lyrics, lol)

(I uploaded it to Arweave, which is a file storage blockchain)

You are retarded.  But the jingle still is funny.   Tongue

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I think the first wave of bitcoin high is gonna over soon and then we gonna do see deep correction that I don't like it at all hahah  Cry


Wow you are selling?  That's probably not going to end well.

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It is not my intention to have endless discussions with you, considering that you take every statement too seriously

I am not supposed to take you seriously?

and that you want some kind of evidence that I have or do not have a certain number of BTC, as if anyone normal in WO or anywhere else on the forum signs messages proving that they have 1 or 10 BTC.

I never asked you to prove your quantity of BTC.  I merely asserted that your fucking around with trading is likely not giving you as many BTC that you would have had if you would have had stuck to a mostly straight-forward and routine DCA strategy, and your evasiveness (and unnecessary argumentativeness) seems to confirm my assessment of your likely situation.. but you still want to fuck around with trading (and to try to convince others that trading is the best thing since sliced bread) even though you have not able to beat a more straight-forward and regular DCA approach.

Another thing that makes it worse is that you seem to want to entice others to be dumb like you, and to trade their likely hard earned cornz rather than to error on the side of BTC accumulation and/or HODL.

If my posts bother you, you have the ignore option - I use it for all that I consider to be writing nonsense.

Your posts don't bother me. They are entertaining (sometimes - as long as no one takes you seriously, as you seem to now want to assert), and even though sometimes your posts are a bit difficult to figure out, especially if you are acting as if selling BTC at $100k and buying back at $90k (or around $90k) is a sure bet.  

Maybe such a BTC price move from $100k to $90k will happen, and you can proclaim "I told you so," and maybe it won't, but such BTC price move surely is not even close to a sure bet...even if your gambling attempt (and seeming attempt to convince others) does end up happening.
Inasmuch as we are in this forum together we are just like one big family and as such I think there is need for us to be more polite when quoting someone opinion. However, trading  is just like gambling because both have similar risk which may result to significant gain or to a total lost of asset if not careful enough.
Accumulating Bitcoin for long term plan either by lump sum or DCA depending on the dip price or the strategy that is more fovarable to you is more preferable to trading because if you have enough Bitcoin in stock you are likely to make huge profit in the future by selling fraction of it when the price is high.
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Empty mempool.... Starting to feel bad for it!.... Feels like a new kid on the playground without any friends to play with!...

not sure what to make of it.. 40+ millions wallets and only 1000 or so transactions... Is Layer 2 - Lightning Network working?




One thing is for sure... Hash rate will jump 6% higher in 18 hours!

Which is in fact great. Ordinals and other retarded stuff (inscriptions or whatever they're called) are gone finally. It basically means Bitcoin is turning into store of value not some kind of dick pic or fart sound storage. You have to understand one thing: it's not the number of transactions in the mempool that's driving Bitcoin price up.     

I've been noticing this. The chain can not be spammed with uneconmical bullshit forever, the high fees will eventually drain all the wealth and the miners will put it to ecconmical use by expanding capex. So this decline was a certaininty just waiting to happen.

I also wonder how much of this drop is also to do with shitcoins falling out of favor. Less Bitcoin being used to buy that shit perhaps, transactions between exchanges? the LN is also probably having an effect, as well as batching transactions, and no doubt a few other things.
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February 08, 2025, 11:50:25 PM

If this is the top for the Dollar.

The sky's the limit for #Bitcoin!🚀

How about the sky being a starting point for #Bitcoin# to the moon 🌙 Cool
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Upgrading the storage drive for the main BC/CL node.

Just got a 2TB since that should last a couple years at least... I mean the first TB took ~15?

That said... I would like to see sovereign scaling solutions to continue to be developed...  But I am not developing them so I can only really hope.  We could prob kick the can a little with a small block size increase...  never mind.  That's prob not gonna happen.

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Upgrading the storage drive for the main BC/CL node.

Just got a 2TB since that should last a couple years at least... I mean the first TB took ~15?

That said... I would like to see sovereign scaling solutions to continue to be developed...  But I am not developing them so I can only really hope.  We could prob kick the can a little with a small block size increase...  never mind.  That's prob not gonna happen.

Anyway... little node updated today!

that's weird I just updated mine today.

I got a Mac mini m4 with 2tb. I figure 2-4 years depends on blockchain spam.

but if we get prices to go to 200k people will not want to spam as much.
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Upgrading the storage drive for the main BC/CL node.

Just got a 2TB since that should last a couple years at least... I mean the first TB took ~15?

That said... I would like to see sovereign scaling solutions to continue to be developed...  But I am not developing them so I can only really hope.  We could prob kick the can a little with a small block size increase...  never mind.  That's prob not gonna happen.

Anyway... little node updated today!

Same here-2TB

Are you running bitcoinid or bitcoin-qt?

I was thinking of updating the node software, but decided to stay on prior soft because the only 'real' code I found was 'provided' by AI and it had some strange parameters that were not mentioned anywhere else. The code had some deep Linux settings-I have no idea what they do as my software knowledge is limited and I don't have a 'feel' for software-my field of expertise is a different one. I guess I could ask AI to explain the code, but i didn't (so far).
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Blackrock is seeking to launch a bitcoin ETP in Europe, capitalizing on institutional demand after its U.S. bitcoin ETF amassed nearly $60 billion in assets.



Blackrock, the world’s largest asset management firm, is reportedly preparing to introduce a spot bitcoin exchange-traded product (ETP) in Europe, expanding its digital asset offerings beyond North America. Bloomberg reported this week, citing individuals familiar with the matter, that the fund is likely to be headquartered in Switzerland. One source suggested that Blackrock may begin promoting the investment vehicle as early as this month. This development follows the significant success of its U.S.-listed bitcoin ETF, which has accumulated nearly $60 billion in assets.

Larry Fink, Blackrock’s CEO, has emphasized the asset manager’s growing focus on digital assets, recently advocating for bitcoin’s role as a hedge against currency devaluation during the World Economic Forum in Davos. Speaking on a panel at the event, he projected that broader institutional adoption could push bitcoin’s price as high as $700,000. He recalled a discussion with a sovereign wealth fund considering an allocation of 2% to 5% in bitcoin. “There was a conversation, should we have a 2% allocation? Should we have a 5% allocation? If everybody adopted that conversation, it would be $500,000, $600,000, $700,000 for bitcoin,” he stated.
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I bet it's just a matter of time and it will happened


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