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February 11, 2025, 01:23:22 PM

new issue from the musky trumpeter.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-postal-service-suspends-incoming-packages-china-hong-kong-2025-02-05

Suspended china shipments via USPS.
The article you quote is dated Feb 5, there may have been developments
I heard the order was reverted or paused, but I can't find a source.
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He's exactly where he wanted to be



He's a human mimicking an AI model, and you are providing feedback on how adjust his algorithm to better coax you into giving him merits.

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February 11, 2025, 01:35:43 PM

Hahaha

well eth still needs to go under 2k this month cause mr v sucks.

I am not excited about shitcoins, but there is some pleasure in seeing them dumping... and I tend to look at shitcoins in terms of their BTC price, so for the past 5 years, I kept thinking that it would be best if ETH would return to going below 0.02 BTC, and even better if it goes below 0.01 BTC.  Of course, shitcoins are not going to die completely, but that scam of a shitcoin really did get quite a bit of traction in terms of shamming a lot of folks into believing that it had value beyond a bunch of convoluted mumbo jumbo platform upon which other shitcoins could be built.  I am not technical enough to know the extent to which some of their technology might have ended up being ported over to bitcoin in order that there might have been some value beyond just fleecing retail in a variety of ways.

It had some value as a pow it is now essentially worthless with the switch it made to pos.  Basically all pos are next to worthless as they are clonable. POW IS OKAY IF THE ALGORITHM  has a ton of gear mining . Meaning Sha256 and scrypt the rest are meh.

There are not a lot of coins with any value. As eth is showing. YOU can simply make a knock off like solana which essentially can do what eth can better.

I still don’t know what Vitalik was thinking going to PoS. Solana really does everything Ethereum does but better now. It’s almost scary how younger users are almost exclusively being onboarded to Solana. It was a chain I wanted to see die, but now I’m mad I didn’t grab a bag at $8. If Bitcoin is the store of value, it seems Solana is setting up to be the peer to peer currency.

let's talk about that after the next two cycles again...
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February 11, 2025, 01:40:01 PM

I don't care what people think about Trump, tariffs, Greenland, Panama canal ore turning Gaza into a lavish riviera of the Middle-East.

Only thing i want is that Trump keeps his word and start a Bitcoin reserve that will pump the coin to $300,000 within 8 months.

That will force other countries to do the same... 300k will be cheap then.

It will also be probably the end the usual cycles... no more 80% crashes to scoop up cheap coins...
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 Wow.  I had no idea soccer was that popular; it must have had first mover advantage like Bitcoin!

so American football is a shitcoin then ?  Cheesy

Compared to the superior sport you could say so
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so American football is a shitcoin then ?  Cheesy
Lol don't let them hear You.

On noes. You hurt my feelings.

Maybe I'll fall down clutching my knees to my chest and roll around crying like a little girl until someone pays attention to me and then I'll jump up laughing. No blue tent required.  Grin
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Lol don't let them hear You.

On noes. You hurt my feelings.

Maybe I'll fall down clutching my knees to my chest and roll around crying like a little girl until someone pays attention to me and then I'll jump up laughing. No blue tent required.  Grin

wait. when you do that it works??
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 Wow.  I had no idea soccer was that popular; it must have had first mover advantage like Bitcoin!

so American football is a shitcoin then ?  Cheesy

Compared to the superior sport you could say so

you are offensive and spread hate against minorities... you sportist!
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February 11, 2025, 04:25:20 PM

So are we having another one of the higher and higher lows or is there a big disconnect between "retail investor" sentiment and the hodlers united?
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Lol don't let them hear You.

On noes. You hurt my feelings.

Maybe I'll fall down clutching my knees to my chest and roll around crying like a little girl until someone pays attention to me and then I'll jump up laughing. No blue tent required.  Grin

wait. when you do that it works??

I don't do that. I'm not a soccer player.
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February 11, 2025, 04:59:26 PM
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Bitcoin holdings qualify for Hong Kong investment visa.
That means Bitcoin holding is proof of capital. That's massive!



https://x.com/BTC_Archive/status/1889351095060754670
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Well yeah I think that you have largely described the terms even though the amount seems so small to almost be insignificant.  To clarify, the outside date would be on or before December 31, 2026 - probably using midnight UTC on Bitstamp as our reference.  

Not everyone is rich like you JJG. Where I live it's a very decent amount. You were asking for 10:1 odds, I happily gave it to you. Anything pending at my end?

So, maybe we should use round numbers?  You would put 0.0003 BTC into the fund (potentially held by hisslyness), and I would put 0.00003 into the fund.  We could add a bit for transaction fees (or if hisslyness tells us that he has some kind of a fee or a minimum amount, then he could tell us about that.. or maybe if we each add 1% to the amount we send hisslyness that will cover any fees), yet we also could send our amounts to hisslyness in a lightning address.  I think that it might be more difficult to keep the amounts segregated in a lighting wallet address, but if  we send the amounts on chain, then we cannot know the fees at the time of the payout.. but we could see the values on chain.


Of course if you hire someone escrow service then you have to pay the fee. You just pay the fee in this case rather then pledging anything. The house has to be paid something to run the business smoothly.
Though hisslyness already said that a post here would be sufficient.


Just to reiterate:

The bet would close out in your favor (with me paying you 0.00003 BTC / 3,000 satoshis) on two possible conditions: 1) the BTC price goes above $333,333 on Bitstamp or 2) the time goes beyond 23:59 UTC December 31, 2026, and the BTC price had not gone below $90k on Bitstamp.

The bet would close in my favor (with you paying me 0.0003 BTC / 30,000 satoshis ) if the BTC price touches any price below $90,000 on Bitstamp before 23:59 UTC December 31, 2026.


Details must be clear.
Who knows what Bitcoin will be on 31st Dec 202?. This insignificant amount (for you) might be worth much more then it' today's value.

If we skip the escrow (skip involving hisslyness) then we would have to give each other a bitcoin address (lightning seems more feasible) at the time the bet closes.. and just figure that the amount received would have to include fees already having had been paid by the sender... .

I am open for that also i.e. P2P

That is true that if I were not to pledge anything on my end, then it is like you are  just pledging on your end and showing that you have even greater confidence that sub-$90k will never be breached.. .almost like a reflection of your confidence that sub-$90k will "never" be breached.

I am doubtful Bitcoin will be below 90k from here. Don't know why you don't think that way.

In another instance, I recall in about late March 2019 when the BTC price was merely in the $3,900s, and JSRaw proclaimed that sub $3,900 was never going to be breached again, and I chided him for his asserted level of confidence, and he ended up being correct until March 12, 2020, we ended up getting a red candle that spike for a few minutes down to $3,850.. hahahahahaha.. He was mostly correct, but technically he ended up being wrong for just a few minutes and nearly a year later.

That's why I said there is nothing certain for Bitcoin, it's all about prediction which can or can't be true. Not even you are certain about the price, you also make predictions which can or can not be true. I think fundamentals don't play much role in bitcoin, it can go up on its own and down on its own.  
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February 11, 2025, 05:31:36 PM

Hahaha

well eth still needs to go under 2k this month cause mr v sucks.

I am not excited about shitcoins, but there is some pleasure in seeing them dumping... and I tend to look at shitcoins in terms of their BTC price, so for the past 5 years, I kept thinking that it would be best if ETH would return to going below 0.02 BTC, and even better if it goes below 0.01 BTC.  Of course, shitcoins are not going to die completely, but that scam of a shitcoin really did get quite a bit of traction in terms of shamming a lot of folks into believing that it had value beyond a bunch of convoluted mumbo jumbo platform upon which other shitcoins could be built.  I am not technical enough to know the extent to which some of their technology might have ended up being ported over to bitcoin in order that there might have been some value beyond just fleecing retail in a variety of ways.

It had some value as a pow it is now essentially worthless with the switch it made to pos.  Basically all pos are next to worthless as they are clonable. POW IS OKAY IF THE ALGORITHM  has a ton of gear mining . Meaning Sha256 and scrypt the rest are meh.

There are not a lot of coins with any value. As eth is showing. YOU can simply make a knock off like solana which essentially can do what eth can better.

I still don’t know what Vitalik was thinking going to PoS. Solana really does everything Ethereum does but better now. It’s almost scary how younger users are almost exclusively being onboarded to Solana. It was a chain I wanted to see die, but now I’m mad I didn’t grab a bag at $8. If Bitcoin is the store of value, it seems Solana is setting up to be the peer to peer currency.

let's talk about that after the next two cycles again...

I'm not trying to come across as pro-Solana or anything.  I have like 0.005% of my crypto portfolio invested in it and mostly because I actually use it in person with friends who don't like Bitcoin and don't want to try and use it as a currency due to high fees (which aren't so high anymore but it isn't like they watch the mempool).  It's something I've observed.  When in my own personal life I have people who want Solana, but aren't interested in Bitcoin, it feels like a shift has happened.  Will it last?  Who knows.  This isn't a new development either.  Last cycle was the same way.  Solana may die and I wouldn't shed a tear.  However, I think with ETFs being launched these days and newbies being onboarded onto things like SOL & XRP, we may see alts stick around longer than in the past.  I guess we'll see in 2 more cycles, but honestly, I don't care either way.  I'd prefer new users were being onboarded onto Bitcoin, but outside of store of value, it can't really compete to those who only see the end user experience and don't care how the sausage is made.
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ETFs did nothing for VB coin and they would do close to nothing for solana and cardano...for XRP, maybe a small positive nudge.
For litecoin-who knows, but they deserve ETF far more than the other four three.
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I don't care what people think about Trump, tariffs, Greenland, Panama canal ore turning Gaza into a lavish riviera of the Middle-East.

Only thing i want is that Trump keeps his word and start a Bitcoin reserve that will pump the coin to $300,000 within 8 months.

Once it's done, bitcoin would always be at a risk that next admin will sell it all, hence a large risk premium.
Albeit, I still like to "taste" that sweet 300K this cycle and not the next one  Grin.
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