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[AlcoHoDL]

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Date   SpotPrice   200 WMA   %gain/time   Spotvs200   gain/time   Coins/10%FU Status   Coins/4%FU Status   Filty-Rich^**
5/30/40   $1,539,268   $1,184,052   8.00%   0.00%   $87,708   0.67564597   1.68911493   84.45575
11/29/40   $1,664,872   $1,280,671   8.16%   102.00%   $96,619   0.62467268   1.56168170   78.08409
5/30/41   $1,803,443   $1,387,263   8.32%   102.00%   $106,593   0.57667488   1.44168720   72.08436
11/29/41   $1,956,549   $1,505,037   8.49%   102.00%   $117,774   0.53154822   1.32887055   66.44353
5/30/42   $2,054,376   $1,580,289   5.00%   0.00%   $75,252   0.50623640   1.26559100   63.27955
11/29/42   $2,151,959   $1,655,353   4.75%   95.00%   $75,064   0.48328057   1.20820143   60.41007
5/31/43   $2,249,066   $1,730,051   4.51%   95.00%   $74,698   0.46241414   1.15603534   57.80176690
11/29/43   $2,345,481   $1,804,216   4.29%   95.00%   $74,165   0.44340588   1.10851470   55.42573493
5/30/44   $2,509,665   $1,930,511   7.00%   0.00%   $126,295   0.41439802   1.03599505   51.79975227
11/28/44   $2,688,855   $2,068,350   7.14%   102.00%   $137,838   0.38678180   0.96695449   48.34772472
5/30/45   $2,884,678   $2,218,983   7.28%   102.00%   $150,634   0.36052545   0.90131363   45.06568129
11/29/45   $3,098,966   $2,383,820   7.43%   102.00%   $164,836   0.33559586   0.83898965   41.94948244
5/30/46   $3,222,924   $2,479,172   4.00%   0.00%   $95,353   0.32268833   0.80672082   40.33604081
11/29/46   $3,345,395   $2,573,381   3.80%   95.00%   $94,209   0.31087507   0.77718768   38.85938421
5/30/47   $3,466,164   $2,666,280   3.61%   95.00%   $92,899   0.30004350   0.75010876   37.50543790
11/29/47   $3,585,036   $2,757,720   3.43%   95.00%   $91,440   0.29009471   0.72523676   36.26183816
5/30/48   $3,800,138   $2,923,183   6.00%   0.00%   $165,463   0.27367425   0.68418563   34.20928128
11/28/48   $4,032,707   $3,102,082   6.12%   102.00%   $178,899   0.25789130   0.64472826   32.23641282
5/30/49   $4,284,444   $3,295,727   6.24%   102.00%   $193,644   0.24273859   0.60684647   30.34232361
11/28/49   $4,557,246   $3,505,574   6.37%   102.00%   $209,847   0.22820802   0.57052005   28.52600230
5/30/50   $4,693,963   $3,610,741   3.00%   0.00%   $105,167   0.22156118   0.55390296   27.69514786

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I tried to reformat your data in table form, to improve readability, and came up with this. Something doesn't seem right though. There is one column missing (spot price, which is expected, because future spot prices are unknown), and also some cells missing (presumably relating to the 4-year cycles -- or half-cycles -- based on their positions). I don't know if that is what you intended to show, or if something is missing...

Date	SpotPrice	200 WMA	%gain/time	Spotvs200	gain/time	Coins/10%FU Status	Coins/4%FU Status	Filthy-Rich**
5/30/40	$1,539,268	$1,184,052	8.00%	0.00%	$87,708	0.67564597	1.68911493	84.45575
11/29/40	$1,664,872	$1,280,671	8.16%	102.00%	$96,619	0.62467268	1.56168170	78.08409
5/30/41	$1,803,443	$1,387,263	8.32%	102.00%	$106,593	0.57667488	1.44168720	72.08436
11/29/41	$1,956,549	$1,505,037	8.49%	102.00%	$117,774	0.53154822	1.32887055	66.44353
5/30/42	$2,054,376	$1,580,289	5.00%	0.00%	$75,252	0.50623640	1.26559100	63.27955
11/29/42	$2,151,959	$1,655,353	4.75%	95.00%	$75,064	0.48328057	1.20820143	60.41007
5/31/43	$2,249,066	$1,730,051	4.51%	95.00%	$74,698	0.46241414	1.15603534	57.80176690
11/29/43	$2,345,481	$1,804,216	4.29%	95.00%	$74,165	0.44340588	1.10851470	55.42573493
5/30/44	$2,509,665	$1,930,511	7.00%	0.00%	$126,295	0.41439802	1.03599505	51.79975227
11/28/44	$2,688,855	$2,068,350	7.14%	102.00%	$137,838	0.38678180	0.96695449	48.34772472
5/30/45	$2,884,678	$2,218,983	7.28%	102.00%	$150,634	0.36052545	0.90131363	45.06568129
11/29/45	$3,098,966	$2,383,820	7.43%	102.00%	$164,836	0.33559586	0.83898965	41.94948244
5/30/46	$3,222,924	$2,479,172	4.00%	0.00%	$95,353	0.32268833	0.80672082	40.33604081
11/29/46	$3,345,395	$2,573,381	3.80%	95.00%	$94,209	0.31087507	0.77718768	38.85938421
5/30/47	$3,466,164	$2,666,280	3.61%	95.00%	$92,899	0.30004350	0.75010876	37.50543790
11/29/47	$3,585,036	$2,757,720	3.43%	95.00%	$91,440	0.29009471	0.72523676	36.26183816
5/30/48	$3,800,138	$2,923,183	6.00%	0.00%	$165,463	0.27367425	0.68418563	34.20928128
11/28/48	$4,032,707	$3,102,082	6.12%	102.00%	$178,899	0.25789130	0.64472826	32.23641282
5/30/49	$4,284,444	$3,295,727	6.24%	102.00%	$193,644	0.24273859	0.60684647	30.34232361
11/28/49	$4,557,246	$3,505,574	6.37%	102.00%	$209,847	0.22820802	0.57052005	28.52600230
5/30/50	$4,693,963	$3,610,741	3.00%	0.00%	$105,167	0.22156118	0.55390296	27.69514786

Edit: updated table to latest version.

[JayJuanGee]

Read first, then ignore.
Just let your brain be the judge.
Not some forum script!

Oh my!!!!!   I don't ignore any forum member either, but my not ignoring surely does not mean that I read their posts.  

I will engage in a kind of glancing at the posts.. but yeah, we some times could end up getting sucked into posts that are gobble-dee-gook, and we had not realized that we were looking at someone who we already deemed to be a gobble-dee-gook proliferator.. and there is a scroll wheel, too... .. but yeah, if we ignore we don't see any of the materials of certain members, unless their post is quoted by some member who we are not ignoring... and yeah like you and OOM, I don't consider it within my own interest to completely ignore forum members, even though I might only, at most, glance at their post once I see their username and I might already have ideas (judgements) about them in my head..

Ten coins? You're a whale!
Gives the thread a new title.
The Whale Observer!

You consider that there are quite a few of us who have at least 10 BTC.. it is like the mindrust threshold of 2020.. remember that mindrust seemed to have had put so much effort into getting to 10 BTC in 2020.. and surely at that time in 2020, even 10 BTC was starting to be difficult to achieve.. Yet, I think that I have frequently proclaimed (in recent times) for any of us who did that vast majority of our BTC accumulation prior to 2021, then we could have had chances to reach decent sized stashes.  

At the same time, 4 years prior to 2021 is 2017.. so surely guys who did most of their BTC stacking between 2018 and 2020 (that would be 3 years), then they would have had done pretty good by now.  

By the way, I just looked it up quickly, and I see that if a guy stacked weekly between January 1, 2018 and December 31, 2020, he would have needed to buy $474 per week in order to reach 10 BTC in that timeframe.. which would have had been a budget of $75k.  it is not outrageous for a westerner to be able to put in that kind of money into bitcoin within a 3-year bitcoin accumulation window, and someone who might have had some luck in timing some of the dips or maybe just being able to accumulate more during some of the dips during that period, I would have had not been unreasonable for a guy to get 10 BTC for around $60k. or even the very lucky to have had bought mindrust's coins at around $4,500, so 10 BTC for $45k... not completely unreasonable, yet sure perhaps some luck contained therein.

Of course there are other variations of how this could play out with more time or even with some guys who might not have had gotten into bitcoin as earlier than 2018, yet they still might have had been building up their investments in other non-BTC investments, so then by the time  2018-2020 came, they might have had the funds to have had been able to inject good sizes of funds at strategic points, which I tend to embrace a combination of DCA and lump sum, yet if someone gets somewhat lucky with part of his lump sum, then he might not feel justified to continuing to put money in when he had just grabbed a big chunk of BTC at a decently good price.

Many of us might recall the 2018 drop that took the BTC price down to $3,124 in November-ish 2018, and a guy could have had been watching that and saw that we spent much of December 2018 to March 2019 bouncing between $3,600 and $4k, so there was nearly 4 months in which a guy could have had lump summed $40k or even a wee bit more than that and got 10 BTC or more in one injection of cash, and maybe such a guy might not have had really felt inclined to put any more money into bitcoin except maybe in March 2020 or maybe during the 2022 dip period... yet even a guy who might have had invested around $40k in to bitcoin in 2018/2019, he might have been able to come up with another $40k in 2022..and maybe picked up another 2-ish bitcoin...

It is hard to really know, since sometimes even guys with relatively modest incomes, they might have abilities to get their hands on extra funds from time to time and once they know about bitcoin, they may well could end up putting those extra funds into bitcoin. .and there is nothing wrong with DCA'rs getting sucked into some lump sum buying, even though I tend to think that the DCAers are a wee bit more committed to buying bitcoin.. and there is a reinforcement that come from regularly, consistently, persistently and ongoingly buying bitcoin that has the potential of causing them to be more aggressive in their overall bitcoin accumulation and likely results in more bitcoin, even if the cost per bitcoin might end up being a wee bit higher than the lump summer.

The punchline may still be that it still would have taken a decent amount of capital to get to 10 BTC, even for a guy who started accumulating bitcoin in early 2018, and yeah as compared with today, it can be almost impossible to get to 10 BTC plus, and I would suggest that even a guy who is accumulating at $474 per week ($24,648 per year), he still might have some difficulties having confidence that he would be able to accumulate a whole BTC in 10 years....

Imagine, from ~$200,000 down to capitulation wick $75,000 V shape recovery towards another massive bullrun pre-2028 halving combined with the halving effect hitting the anticipated $1,000,000 in 2029.
R.I.P classic 4 year cycles.

X.

Every time guys are proclaiming the death of the 4-year cycle, and from my perspective, we cannot proclaim the death of the 4-year cycle until after such death happens, and I imagine the death of the 4-year cycle is greatly exaggerated (even if there has not been any intent to exaggerate such observations).

I will concede as I just asserted in my earlier post that draw downs of 50% or more do not seem so feasible if we don't have some kind of an outrageous run up first.  Right now, I have troubles considering anything less than $250k as being an outrageous run up...and from my own perspective $250k is merely a 9x run up from $27k in October 2023, and even our 2021 run up was 16.5x from $4,200 in April 2019.

And, many of us are suggesting that the 2021 run up was stifled.

I don't have a problem with the idea (law of large numbers) that it becomes more and more difficult to achieve blow off tops that are similar magnitudes as previous blow off tops.. and sure, it could be possible that something like a $200k top could still result in a retest or going below of $100k, but I don't buy it.  I doubt that bitcoin is in such a state that it is likely to get a 50% drawdown from a top of somewhere in the $200k range.. It just does not seem to be enough to be frothy enough to justify a 50% drawdown... and, yeah, sure I could be wrong.. like I frequently am about a variety of these up and down cyclical matters.  

Your graph reminds me of this one:

Conclusion are not overly different, but a good parameter to keep in mind.

I cannot recall ever thinking about it like that... right now we have the 200-WMA at $51k and we have the previous ATH at $69k, and the 200-WMA is moving up around $50 per day, yet the rate per day is likely to continue to increase beyond $50 per day, so there is still room for the 200-WMA to reach that level.. we still have another $18k to go.

Which would translate into (69k$ - 51k$) / 50 $/day = 360 days, aka one year if  the 200-WMA doesn't speed up significantly - which it could, but probably just a bit.

You are correct overall, yet I think historically during the periods of BTC price spikes, the 200-WMA starts to increase at its daily increase significantly in a short period of time.  I don't know.  I don't claim to be an expert, but my fuck-you status charts show (in 6-month snapshots) how the 200-WMA has historically performed, and we see short term spurts and of course it is a lagging indicator so it takes a bit to ramp up, but it will stay ramped up for a short period while the spot price already has been dropping.

[AlcoHoDL]

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Date   SpotPrice   200 WMA   %gain/time   Spotvs200   gain/time   Coins/10%FU Status   Coins/4%FU Status   Filty-Rich^**
5/31/24   $68,372   $35,188   21.23%   94.30%   $6,161   22.73502330   56.83755826   2,841.8779
11/29/24   $95,662   $41,513   17.97%   130.44%   $6,325   19.27107171   48.17767928   2,408.8840
5/31/25   $104,011   $47,916   15.42%   117.07%   $6,403   16.69588446   41.73971116   2,086.9856
11/30/25   $89,699   $68,999   44.00%   102.00%   $21,083   11.59436421   28.98591053   1,449.2955
5/31/26   $107,639   $82,799   20.00%   0.00%   $13,800   9.66197018   24.15492544   1,207.7463
11/30/26   $123,784   $95,219   15.00%   95.00%   $12,420   8.40171320   21.00428299   1,050.2141
5/31/27   $138,638   $106,645   12.00%   95.00%   $11,426   7.50152964   18.75382410   937.6912
11/30/27   $154,443   $118,802   11.40%   95.00%   $12,158   6.73386862   16.83467154   841.7336
5/31/28   $177,610   $136,623   15.00%   0.00%   $17,820   5.85553793   14.63884482   731.9422
11/29/28   $204,784   $157,526   15.30%   102.00%   $20,903   5.07852379   12.69630947   634.8155
5/31/29   $236,742   $182,110   15.61%   102.00%   $24,584   4.39295866   10.98239665   549.11983
11/29/29   $274,427   $211,098   15.92%   102.00%   $28,988   3.78970834   9.47427085   473.71354
5/31/30   $299,126   $230,097   9.00%   0.00%   $18,999   3.47679664   8.69199160   434.59958

Here is your second table, which, for some odd reason, could not be added to my previous post.

Date	SpotPrice	200 WMA	%gain/time	Spotvs200	gain/time	Coins/10%FU Status	Coins/4%FU Status	Filthy-Rich**
5/31/24	$68,372	$35,188	21.23%	94.30%	$6,161	22.73502330	56.83755826	2,841.8779
11/29/24	$95,662	$41,513	17.97%	130.44%	$6,325	19.27107171	48.17767928	2,408.8840
5/31/25	$104,011	$47,916	15.42%	117.07%	$6,403	16.69588446	41.73971116	2,086.9856
11/30/25	$89,699	$68,999	44.00%	102.00%	$21,083	11.59436421	28.98591053	1,449.2955
5/31/26	$107,639	$82,799	20.00%	0.00%	$13,800	9.66197018	24.15492544	1,207.7463
11/30/26	$123,784	$95,219	15.00%	95.00%	$12,420	8.40171320	21.00428299	1,050.2141
5/31/27	$138,638	$106,645	12.00%	95.00%	$11,426	7.50152964	18.75382410	937.6912
11/30/27	$154,443	$118,802	11.40%	95.00%	$12,158	6.73386862	16.83467154	841.7336
5/31/28	$177,610	$136,623	15.00%	0.00%	$17,820	5.85553793	14.63884482	731.9422
11/29/28	$204,784	$157,526	15.30%	102.00%	$20,903	5.07852379	12.69630947	634.8155
5/31/29	$236,742	$182,110	15.61%	102.00%	$24,584	4.39295866	10.98239665	549.11983
11/29/29	$274,427	$211,098	15.92%	102.00%	$28,988	3.78970834	9.47427085	473.71354
5/31/30	$299,126	$230,097	9.00%	0.00%	$18,999	3.47679664	8.69199160	434.59958

Edit: updated table to latest version.

[JayJuanGee]

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I tried to reformat your data in table form, to improve readability, and came up with this. Something doesn't seem right though. There is one column missing (spot price, which is expected, because future spot prices are unknown), and also some cells missing (presumably relating to the 4-year cycles -- or half-cycles -- based on their positions). I don't know if that is what you intended to show, or if something is missing...

Sorry that my table creating skills are not good... and yeah, your table shows the information correctly.. in the correct columns.. even though surely it might be ambiguous what each of the columns mean... but you put the data below each of the columns in the right places.. .which surely should make the information contained therein to be more understandable... and yeah, I don't claim to have any genius projections, but instead just an attempt to have a grounding of the projection that is based on current and historical movements of the 200-WMA and then both project that into the future and then to project how any of us might attempt to apply that to our situation and/or our goals into the future.

[Edited out]

Here is your second table, which, for some odd reason, could not be added to my previous post.

Yeah.. sorry about that.  I had even started to edit it before I saw your better formatted rendition of the table... So I realized that the missing data in the future projected spot price was messing up the readability, so initially I decided to fill it in with "xxx," but then after further reflection, I thought that it might be more appropriate to just project the BTC spot price for any moment of time as being expected to be right around 30% higher than the 200-WMA.. which I suppose that would thereby be an expectation that the BTC spot price is dragging up the 200-WMA somewhere in the ballpark of slightly less than 8% per year, which I would consider to be quite conservative for the earlier years, but maybe it becomes overly optimistic if we project those same kinds of numbers 50 years or more into the future.... even though for now, it is probably a good enough ballpark figure to consider that the BTC spot price tends to be around (or at least?) 30% higher than the 200-WMA..

Maybe I could make a proposal to you, AlcoHoDL, that we could completely update my fuck you status chart to put all of it from December 2010 until right around 2074-ish, and I would put the update in my investment ideas thread.   I could post it here or I could PM you the info..  The forum seems to limit how much of that data can be placed into any one post.  

In my Excel spreadsheet, I have projected that information out to 2157 (probably last substantively revised over a year ago - even though, ever 6 months I have been putting in the actual data for the actual BTC spot price on that date and the actual place where the 200WMA is at on that date), even though surely the information in the chart becomes less and less tethered to reality the further out that are attempts to project it out into the future.  My latest attempt at posting the chart (which fillippone helped in the formatting) seemed that it ONLY allowed me to post data up until 2074 before reaching the limit.  Of course, if folks really want to see the projections between 2074 and 2157, we could put that information in two posts, to the extent anyone gives any shits about the information between 2074 and 2157.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[AlcoHoDL]

[edited out]

I tried to reformat your data in table form, to improve readability, and came up with this. Something doesn't seem right though. There is one column missing (spot price, which is expected, because future spot prices are unknown), and also some cells missing (presumably relating to the 4-year cycles -- or half-cycles -- based on their positions). I don't know if that is what you intended to show, or if something is missing...

Sorry that my table creating skills are not good... and yeah, your table shows the information correctly.. in the correct columns.. even though surely it might be ambiguous what each of the columns mean... but you put the data below each of the columns in the right places.. .which surely should make the information contained therein to be more understandable... and yeah, I don't claim to have any genius projections, but instead just an attempt to have a grounding of the projection that is based on current and historical movements of the 200-WMA and then both project that into the future and then to project how any of us might attempt to apply that to our situation and/or our goals into the future.

[Edited out]

Here is your second table, which, for some odd reason, could not be added to my previous post.

Yeah.. sorry about that.  I had even started to edit it before I saw your better formatted rendition of the table... So I realized that the missing data in the future projected spot price was messing up the readability, so initially I decided to fill it in with "xxx," but then after further reflection, I thought that it might be more appropriate to just project the BTC spot price for any moment of time as being expected to be right around 30% higher than the 200-WMA.. which I suppose that would thereby be an expectation that the BTC spot price is dragging up the 200-WMA somewhere in the ballpark of slightly less than 8% per year, which I would consider to be quite conservative for the earlier years, but maybe it becomes overly optimistic if we project those same kinds of numbers 50 years or more into the future.... even though for now, it is probably a good enough ballpark figure to consider that the BTC spot price tends to be around (or at least?) 30% higher than the 200-WMA..

Maybe I could make a proposal to you, AlcoHoDL, that we could completely update my fuck you status chart to put all of it from December 2010 until right around 2074-ish, and I would put the update in my investment ideas thread.   I could post it here or I could PM you the info..  The forum seems to limit how much of that data can be placed into any one post.  

In my Excel spreadsheet, I have projected that information out to 2157 (probably last substantively revised over a year ago - even though, ever 6 months I have been putting in the actual data for the actual BTC spot price on that date and the actual place where the 200WMA is at on that date), even though surely the information in the chart becomes less and less tethered to reality the further out that are attempts to project it out into the future.  My latest attempt at posting the chart (which fillippone helped in the formatting) seemed that it ONLY allowed me to post data up until 2074 before reaching the limit.  Of course, if folks really want to see the projections between 2074 and 2157, we could put that information in two posts, to the extent anyone gives any shits about the information between 2074 and 2157.

It's OK. I've updated both of my posts to your latest table data (including the projected spot prices and 0.00% values for the empty cells). As it turns out, the error given by the forum, when I tried to edit my posts and add both tables to one post, was only temporary (while previewing the edited post), and it shows correctly after submitting the edit. Anyway, I'm keeping both posts now (after all those edits...).

[JayJuanGee]

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It's OK. I've updated both of my posts to your latest table data (including the projected spot prices and 0.00% values for the empty cells). As it turns out, the error given by the forum, when I tried to edit my posts and add both tables to one post, was only temporary (while previewing the edited post), and it shows correctly after submitting the edit. Anyway, I'm keeping both posts now (after all those edits...).

Your updates look good (correct).

If you don't mind, let's update that information from 2010 to 2157^** so that the similarly generated data is all contained within one table... so this is the raw data that I have in my Excel spreadsheet for the actual facts from December 2010 to May 2025, and the projected out data from November 2025 to May 2157.  

**right now, the forum software seems to be allowing me to paste in the data all the way to 2157, even though previously it would only allow me to post until 2074.

By the way the column that I have labeled as "Spotvs 200" are actual facts of the spot price versus the 200-WMA from December 2010 to May 2025.  Yet that column converts into projected formulas for the future rows that I attempt to use based on a projected ongoing 4 year cycle) from November 2025 to May 2157.. So generally speaking, the formula is something like 2 years of positive appreciation in relation to the base followed by 2 years of negative depreciation in relation to the base, and then just repeating that same pattern for every 4 years into the future..

Yeah of course at some point that kind of a 4-year pattern will weaken even further or maybe break, even though there is some out of my ass diminishing percentage increases for each of the 6 month periods that fit into a 4-year pattern of 2 years up and 2 years down.. more or less.. with my throwing in a base number for the start of each 2 years that is increasingly going down, and perhaps in the future the amount that it goes down is too flat.. Perhaps? perhaps?

You might even notice by the time we get to 2126, the base for the 2 years up and for the 2 years down both gravitate towards 2% for every 6 months, which would be 4% for the year, yet I keep the 2 years up and the 2 years down in there... It might make more sense to continue to have that percentage to decrease, yet we hardly have enough information to know what might happen that far out into the future, and there is a bit of a dynamic within bitcoin that it is designed to pump forever, yet there still might be limits in terms of how much it can pump, and there also could be outrageous and catastrophic disasters and/or quasi-ending of civilization kinds of events between now and 2157 that would truly put some kind of reset in the data and/or there could be some movement into some kind of a "new bitcoin" that might end up having to take place at some point along the way, too.  Not that any of us should give too many shits for either our own accumulating of bitcoin and/or living off of our bitcoin and/or our legacy decisions regarding our bitcoin (how we might decide to pass down our bitcoin) - presuming that we are going to die within normal kinds of parameters that relate to current life-span dynamics.. Personally, I don't believe in great extensions of life, even though sure there may well be some of us who might be able to extend and to live 25% to 40% or so longer than our current lifespan averages.. perhaps? perhaps?  .. but being able to stay physically active in any kind of meaningful way past 95 years or so might be another story... that does not seem too likely to me.

Date   SpotPrice   200 WMA   %gain/time   Spotvs200   gain/time   Coins/10%FU Status   Coins/4%FU Status   Filty-Rich
12/1/10   $0.23   $0.12   xxx   91.67%   xxx   6,666,667   16,666,667   833,333,333
6/1/11   $9.57   $1.03   758.33%   829.13%   $0.91   776,699   1,941,748   97,087,379
12/1/11   $3.06   $3.94   282.52%   -22.34%   $2.91   203,046   507,614   25,380,711
5/31/12   $5.18   $4.21   6.85%   23.04%   $0.27   190,024   475,059   23,752,969
11/30/12   $12.57   $5.42   28.74%   131.92%   $1.21   147,601   369,004   18,450,185
6/1/13   $129.09   $15.09   178.41%   755.47%   $9.67   53,015.2419   132,538   6,626,905
11/30/13   $1,127.45   $40.59   168.99%   2677.65%   $25.50   19,709.2880   49,273.2200   2,463,661
6/1/14   $640.16   $119.77   195.07%   434.49%   $79.18   6,679.4690   16,698.6725   834,934
11/30/14   $376.47   $183.18   52.94%   105.52%   $63.41   4,367.2890   10,918.2225   545,911
6/1/15   $223.32   $216.22   18.04%   3.28%   $33.04   3,699.9353   9,249.8381   462,492
12/1/15   $363.45   $250.78   15.98%   44.93%   $34.56   3,190.0471   7,975.1176   398,756
5/31/16   $531.41   $305.36   21.76%   74.03%   $54.58   2,619.8585   6,549.6463   327,482
11/30/16   $742.36   $387.63   26.94%   91.51%   $82.27   2,063.8237   5,159.5594   257,978
5/31/17   $2,329   $528.67   36.39%   340.55%   $141.04   1,513.2313   3,783.0783   189,154
11/30/17   $10,406   $1,042   97.10%   898.66%   $513.33   767.75431862   1,919.3858   95,969
6/1/18   $7,460   $2,363   126.78%   215.70%   $1,321   338.55268726   846.38172   42,319
11/30/18   $4,279   $3,161   33.77%   35.37%   $798   253.08446694   632.71117   31,636
6/1/19   $8,576   $3,727   17.91%   130.10%   $566   214.64985243   536.62463   26,831
11/30/19   $7,721   $4,927   32.20%   56.71%   $1,200   162.37061092   405.92653   20,296
5/31/20   $9,663   $5,917   20.09%   63.31%   $990   135.20365050   338.00913   16,900
11/30/20   $18,170   $7,338   24.02%   147.62%   $1,421   109.02153175   272.55383   13,628
5/31/21   $35,715   $12,753   73.79%   180.05%   $5,415   62.73033796   156.82584   7,841.2922
11/30/21   $57,849   $17,766   39.31%   225.62%   $5,013   45.02983226   112.57458   5,628.7290
5/31/22   $31,741   $22,070   24.23%   43.82%   $4,304   36.24830086   90.62075215   4,531.0376
11/30/22   $16,442   $24,101   9.20%   -31.78%   $2,031   33.19364342   82.98410854   4,149.2054
6/1/23   $27,245   $26,311   9.17%   3.55%   $2,210   30.40553381   76.01383452   3,800.6917
11/30/23   $37,810   $29,027   10.32%   30.26%   $2,716   27.56054708   68.90136769   3,445.0684
5/31/24   $68,372   $35,188   21.23%   94.30%   $6,161   22.73502330   56.83755826   2,841.8779
11/29/24   $95,662   $41,513   17.97%   130.44%   $6,325   19.27107171   48.17767928   2,408.8840
5/31/25   $104,011   $47,916   15.42%   117.07%   $6,403   16.69588446   41.73971116   2,086.9856
11/30/25   $89,699   $68,999   44.00%   102.00%   $21,083   11.59436421   28.98591053   1,449.2955
5/31/26   $107,639   $82,799   20.00%   0.00%   $13,800   9.66197018   24.15492544   1,207.7463
11/30/26   $123,784   $95,219   15.00%   95.00%   $12,420   8.40171320   21.00428299   1,050.2141
5/31/27   $138,638   $106,645   12.00%   95.00%   $11,426   7.50152964   18.75382410   937.6912
11/30/27   $154,443   $118,802   11.40%   95.00%   $12,158   6.73386862   16.83467154   841.7336
5/31/28   $177,610   $136,623   15.00%   0.00%   $17,820   5.85553793   14.63884482   731.9422
11/29/28   $204,784   $157,526   15.30%   102.00%   $20,903   5.07852379   12.69630947   634.8155
5/31/29   $236,742   $182,110   15.61%   102.00%   $24,584   4.39295866   10.98239665   549.11983
11/29/29   $274,427   $211,098   15.92%   102.00%   $28,988   3.78970834   9.47427085   473.71354
5/31/30   $299,126   $230,097   9.00%   0.00%   $18,999   3.47679664   8.69199160   434.59958
11/30/30   $324,701   $249,770   8.55%   95.00%   $19,673   3.20294486   8.00736214   400.36811
5/31/31   $351,075   $270,058   8.12%   95.00%   $20,288   2.96232963   7.40582408   370.29120
11/30/31   $378,165   $290,896   7.72%   95.00%   $20,839   2.75012006   6.87530014   343.76501
5/30/32   $423,545   $325,804   12.00%   0.00%   $34,908   2.45546434   6.13866084   306.93304
11/29/32   $475,387   $365,682   12.24%   102.00%   $39,878   2.18769096   5.46922740   273.46137
5/31/33   $534,738   $411,337   12.48%   102.00%   $45,655   1.94487696   4.86219241   243.10962
11/29/33   $602,834   $463,719   12.73%   102.00%   $52,382   1.72518353   4.31295884   215.64794
5/31/34   $645,033   $496,179   7.00%   0.00%   $32,460   1.61232106   4.03080265   201.54013
11/29/34   $687,928   $529,175   6.65%   95.00%   $32,996   1.51178721   3.77946803   188.97340
5/31/35   $731,387   $562,606   6.32%   95.00%   $33,431   1.42195519   3.55488798   177.74440
11/30/35   $775,282   $596,371   6.00%   95.00%   $33,765   1.34144660   3.35361649   167.68082
5/30/36   $852,811   $656,008   10.00%   0.00%   $59,637   1.21949691   3.04874227   152.43711
11/29/36   $939,797   $722,921   10.20%   102.00%   $66,913   1.10662151   2.76655378   138.32769
5/30/37   $1,037,574   $798,134   10.40%   102.00%   $75,213   1.00233824   2.50584560   125.29228
11/29/37   $1,147,682   $882,832   10.61%   102.00%   $84,699   0.90617430   2.26543575   113.27179
5/31/38   $1,216,543   $935,802   6.00%   0.00%   $52,970   0.85488141   2.13720354   106.86018
11/29/38   $1,285,886   $989,143   5.70%   95.00%   $53,341   0.80878090   2.02195226   101.09761
5/31/39   $1,355,517   $1,042,705   5.42%   95.00%   $53,562   0.76723512   1.91808780   95.90439
11/29/39   $1,425,248   $1,096,344   5.14%   95.00%   $53,639   0.72969765   1.82424413   91.21221
5/30/40   $1,539,268   $1,184,052   8.00%   0.00%   $87,708   0.67564597   1.68911493   84.45575
11/29/40   $1,664,872   $1,280,671   8.16%   102.00%   $96,619   0.62467268   1.56168170   78.08409
5/30/41   $1,803,443   $1,387,263   8.32%   102.00%   $106,593   0.57667488   1.44168720   72.08436
11/29/41   $1,956,549   $1,505,037   8.49%   102.00%   $117,774   0.53154822   1.32887055   66.44353
5/30/42   $2,054,376   $1,580,289   5.00%   0.00%   $75,252   0.50623640   1.26559100   63.27955
11/29/42   $2,151,959   $1,655,353   4.75%   95.00%   $75,064   0.48328057   1.20820143   60.41007
5/31/43   $2,249,066   $1,730,051   4.51%   95.00%   $74,698   0.46241414   1.15603534   57.80176690
11/29/43   $2,345,481   $1,804,216   4.29%   95.00%   $74,165   0.44340588   1.10851470   55.42573493
5/30/44   $2,509,665   $1,930,511   7.00%   0.00%   $126,295   0.41439802   1.03599505   51.79975227
11/28/44   $2,688,855   $2,068,350   7.14%   102.00%   $137,838   0.38678180   0.96695449   48.34772472
5/30/45   $2,884,678   $2,218,983   7.28%   102.00%   $150,634   0.36052545   0.90131363   45.06568129
11/29/45   $3,098,966   $2,383,820   7.43%   102.00%   $164,836   0.33559586   0.83898965   41.94948244
5/30/46   $3,222,924   $2,479,172   4.00%   0.00%   $95,353   0.32268833   0.80672082   40.33604081
11/29/46   $3,345,395   $2,573,381   3.80%   95.00%   $94,209   0.31087507   0.77718768   38.85938421
5/30/47   $3,466,164   $2,666,280   3.61%   95.00%   $92,899   0.30004350   0.75010876   37.50543790
11/29/47   $3,585,036   $2,757,720   3.43%   95.00%   $91,440   0.29009471   0.72523676   36.26183816
5/30/48   $3,800,138   $2,923,183   6.00%   0.00%   $165,463   0.27367425   0.68418563   34.20928128
11/28/48   $4,032,707   $3,102,082   6.12%   102.00%   $178,899   0.25789130   0.64472826   32.23641282
5/30/49   $4,284,444   $3,295,727   6.24%   102.00%   $193,644   0.24273859   0.60684647   30.34232361
11/28/49   $4,557,246   $3,505,574   6.37%   102.00%   $209,847   0.22820802   0.57052005   28.52600230
5/30/50   $4,693,963   $3,610,741   3.00%   0.00%   $105,167   0.22156118   0.55390296   27.69514786
11/29/50   $4,827,741   $3,713,647   2.85%   95.00%   $102,906   0.21542167   0.53855416   26.92770818
5/30/51   $4,958,452   $3,814,194   2.71%   95.00%   $100,547   0.20974288   0.52435719   26.21785963
11/29/51   $5,085,990   $3,912,300   2.57%   95.00%   $98,106   0.20448331   0.51120828   25.56041384
5/29/52   $5,340,289   $4,107,915   5.00%   0.00%   $195,615   0.19474601   0.48686503   24.34325127
11/28/52   $5,612,644   $4,317,418   5.10%   102.00%   $209,504   0.18529592   0.46323980   23.16198979
5/30/53   $5,904,614   $4,542,010   5.20%   102.00%   $224,592   0.17613346   0.44033364   22.01668200
11/28/53   $6,217,915   $4,783,011   5.31%   102.00%   $241,001   0.16725865   0.41814661   20.90733067
5/30/54   $6,404,452   $4,926,502   3.00%   0.00%   $143,490   0.16238703   0.40596759   20.29837929
11/28/54   $6,586,979   $5,066,907   2.85%   95.00%   $140,405   0.15788725   0.39471812   19.73590597
5/30/55   $6,765,322   $5,204,094   2.71%   95.00%   $137,187   0.15372514   0.38431285   19.21564245
11/29/55   $6,939,334   $5,337,949   2.57%   95.00%   $133,856   0.14987029   0.37467572   18.73378605
5/29/56   $7,216,907   $5,551,467   4.00%   0.00%   $213,518   0.14410605   0.36026512   18.01325582
11/28/56   $7,511,357   $5,777,967   4.08%   102.00%   $226,500   0.13845700   0.34614250   17.30712512
5/29/57   $7,823,950   $6,018,423   4.16%   102.00%   $240,456   0.13292519   0.33231297   16.61564830
11/28/57   $8,156,063   $6,273,895   4.24%   102.00%   $255,472   0.12751250   0.31878124   15.93906190
5/30/58   $8,400,745   $6,462,112   3.00%   0.00%   $188,217   0.12379854   0.30949635   15.47481738
11/28/58   $8,640,167   $6,646,282   2.85%   95.00%   $184,170   0.12036805   0.30092012   15.04600620
5/30/59   $8,874,099   $6,826,230   2.71%   95.00%   $179,948   0.11719500   0.29298749   14.64937439
11/28/59   $9,102,352   $7,001,809   2.57%   95.00%   $175,579   0.11425618   0.28564046   14.28202291
5/29/60   $9,466,446   $7,281,882   4.00%   0.00%   $280,072   0.10986171   0.27465429   13.73271433
11/28/60   $9,852,677   $7,578,982   4.08%   102.00%   $297,101   0.10555507   0.26388767   13.19438349
5/29/61   $10,262,706   $7,894,389   4.16%   102.00%   $315,407   0.10133779   0.25334449   12.66722428
11/28/61   $10,698,341   $8,229,493   4.24%   102.00%   $335,104   0.09721134   0.24302834   12.15141704
5/29/62   $11,019,291   $8,476,378   3.00%   0.00%   $246,885   0.09437994   0.23594985   11.79749227
11/28/62   $11,333,341   $8,717,954   2.85%   95.00%   $241,577   0.09176465   0.22941161   11.47058072
5/30/63   $11,640,191   $8,953,993   2.71%   95.00%   $236,039   0.08934561   0.22336403   11.16820166
11/28/63   $11,939,591   $9,184,301   2.57%   95.00%   $230,308   0.08710516   0.21776290   10.88814496
5/29/64   $12,417,175   $9,551,673   4.00%   0.00%   $367,372   0.08375496   0.20938740   10.46937016
11/27/64   $12,923,796   $9,941,381   4.08%   102.00%   $389,708   0.08047172   0.20117929   10.05896441
5/29/65   $13,461,632   $10,355,102   4.16%   102.00%   $413,721   0.07725660   0.19314151   9.65707555
11/28/65   $14,033,056   $10,794,658   4.24%   102.00%   $439,557   0.07411073   0.18527682   9.26384106
5/29/66   $14,454,048   $11,118,498   3.00%   0.00%   $323,840   0.07195216   0.17988041   8.99402045
11/28/66   $14,865,988   $11,435,375   2.85%   95.00%   $316,877   0.06995835   0.17489588   8.74479383
5/29/67   $15,268,485   $11,744,988   2.71%   95.00%   $309,613   0.06811416   0.17028540   8.51426997
11/28/67   $15,661,209   $12,047,084   2.57%   95.00%   $302,096   0.06640611   0.16601528   8.30076394
5/29/68   $16,287,657   $12,528,967   4.00%   0.00%   $481,883   0.06385203   0.15963008   7.98150379
11/27/68   $16,952,194   $13,040,149   4.08%   102.00%   $511,182   0.06134899   0.15337248   7.66862393
5/29/69   $17,657,676   $13,582,828   4.16%   102.00%   $542,679   0.05889790   0.14724474   7.36223708
11/27/69   $18,407,215   $14,159,396   4.24%   102.00%   $576,568   0.05649958   0.14124896   7.06244802
5/29/70   $18,959,432   $14,584,178   3.00%   0.00%   $424,782   0.05485397   0.13713491   6.85674565
11/28/70   $19,499,775   $14,999,827   2.85%   95.00%   $415,649   0.05333395   0.13333487   6.66674346
5/29/71   $20,027,732   $15,405,948   2.71%   95.00%   $406,120   0.05192800   0.12981999   6.49099965
11/28/71   $20,542,870   $15,802,208   2.57%   95.00%   $396,260   0.05062584   0.12656459   6.32822967
5/28/72   $21,364,585   $16,434,296   4.00%   0.00%   $632,088   0.04867869   0.12169672   6.08483622
11/27/72   $22,236,260   $17,104,815   4.08%   102.00%   $670,519   0.04677046   0.11692614   5.84630690
5/29/73   $23,161,644   $17,816,649   4.16%   102.00%   $711,834   0.04490182   0.11225455   5.61272763
11/27/73   $24,144,817   $18,572,936   4.24%   102.00%   $756,287   0.04307343   0.10768357   5.38417830
5/29/74   $24,869,162   $19,130,124   3.00%   0.00%   $557,188   0.04181886   0.10454715   5.22735758
11/27/74   $25,577,933   $19,675,333   2.85%   95.00%   $545,209   0.04066005   0.10165012   5.08250615
5/29/75   $26,270,455   $20,208,042   2.71%   95.00%   $532,710   0.03958820   0.09897050   4.94852484
11/28/75   $26,946,164   $20,727,819   2.57%   95.00%   $519,776   0.03859547   0.09648869   4.82443436
5/28/76   $28,024,011   $21,556,931   4.00%   0.00%   $829,113   0.03711103   0.09277758   4.63887919
11/27/76   $29,167,390   $22,436,454   4.08%   102.00%   $879,523   0.03565626   0.08914065   4.45703227
5/28/77   $30,381,220   $23,370,170   4.16%   102.00%   $933,715   0.03423167   0.08557918   4.27895911
11/27/77   $31,670,852   $24,362,194   4.24%   102.00%   $992,024   0.03283776   0.08209441   4.10472062
5/29/78   $32,620,978   $25,093,060   3.00%   0.00%   $730,866   0.03188133   0.07970331   3.98516565
11/27/78   $33,550,676   $25,808,212   2.85%   95.00%   $715,152   0.03099789   0.07749471   3.87473568
5/29/79   $34,459,060   $26,506,969   2.71%   95.00%   $698,757   0.03018074   0.07545185   3.77259273
11/27/79   $35,345,390   $27,188,762   2.57%   95.00%   $681,792   0.02942392   0.07355980   3.67799023
5/28/80   $36,759,206   $28,276,312   4.00%   0.00%   $1,087,550   0.02829223   0.07073058   3.53652906
11/27/80   $38,258,981   $29,429,986   4.08%   102.00%   $1,153,674   0.02718316   0.06795790   3.39789495
5/28/81   $39,851,167   $30,654,744   4.16%   102.00%   $1,224,758   0.02609710   0.06524276   3.26213782
11/27/81   $41,542,782   $31,955,986   4.24%   102.00%   $1,301,242   0.02503443   0.06258608   3.12930412
5/28/82   $42,789,066   $32,914,666   3.00%   0.00%   $958,680   0.02430527   0.06076319   3.03815934
11/27/82   $44,008,554   $33,852,734   2.85%   95.00%   $938,068   0.02363177   0.05907942   2.95397116
5/29/83   $45,200,086   $34,769,297   2.71%   95.00%   $916,563   0.02300881   0.05752201   2.87610073
11/27/83   $46,362,689   $35,663,607   2.57%   95.00%   $894,310   0.02243183   0.05607958   2.80397889
5/28/84   $48,217,196   $37,090,151   4.00%   0.00%   $1,426,544   0.02156907   0.05392267   2.69613355
11/26/84   $50,184,458   $38,603,429   4.08%   102.00%   $1,513,278   0.02072355   0.05180887   2.59044346
5/28/85   $52,272,934   $40,209,949   4.16%   102.00%   $1,606,520   0.01989557   0.04973893   2.48694668
11/27/85   $54,491,832   $41,916,794   4.24%   102.00%   $1,706,845   0.01908543   0.04771357   2.38567863
5/28/86   $56,126,587   $43,174,298   3.00%   0.00%   $1,257,504   0.01852954   0.04632386   2.31619285
11/27/86   $57,726,195   $44,404,765   2.85%   95.00%   $1,230,467   0.01801608   0.04504021   2.25201055
5/28/87   $59,289,132   $45,607,024   2.71%   95.00%   $1,202,259   0.01754116   0.04385289   2.19264469
11/27/87   $60,814,122   $46,780,094   2.57%   95.00%   $1,173,070   0.01710129   0.04275323   2.13766137
5/28/88   $63,246,687   $48,651,298   4.00%   0.00%   $1,871,204   0.01644355   0.04110887   2.05544363
11/26/88   $65,827,152   $50,636,271   4.08%   102.00%   $1,984,973   0.01579895   0.03949738   1.97486897
5/28/89   $68,566,615   $52,743,550   4.16%   102.00%   $2,107,279   0.01516773   0.03791933   1.89596643
11/26/89   $71,477,152   $54,982,425   4.24%   102.00%   $2,238,875   0.01455010   0.03637526   1.81876300
5/28/90   $73,621,467   $56,631,898   3.00%   0.00%   $1,649,473   0.01412631   0.03531579   1.76578932
11/27/90   $75,719,679   $58,245,907   2.85%   95.00%   $1,614,009   0.01373487   0.03433718   1.71685884
5/28/91   $77,769,789   $59,822,915   2.71%   95.00%   $1,577,008   0.01337280   0.03343201   1.67160026
11/27/91   $79,770,125   $61,361,635   2.57%   95.00%   $1,538,720   0.01303746   0.03259366   1.62968279
5/27/92   $82,960,930   $63,816,100   4.00%   0.00%   $2,454,465   0.01253602   0.03134005   1.56700268
11/26/92   $86,345,736   $66,419,797   4.08%   102.00%   $2,603,697   0.01204460   0.03011150   1.50557521
5/28/93   $89,939,100   $69,183,923   4.16%   102.00%   $2,764,126   0.01156338   0.02890845   1.44542251
11/26/93   $93,756,864   $72,120,665   4.24%   102.00%   $2,936,741   0.01109252   0.02773130   1.38656515
5/28/94   $96,569,570   $74,284,285   3.00%   0.00%   $2,163,620   0.01076944   0.02692360   1.34617975
11/26/94   $99,321,803   $76,401,387   2.85%   95.00%   $2,117,102   0.01047101   0.02617754   1.30887677
5/28/95   $102,010,941   $78,469,954   2.71%   95.00%   $2,068,568   0.01019498   0.02548746   1.27437311
11/27/95   $104,634,789   $80,488,300   2.57%   95.00%   $2,018,345   0.00993933   0.02484833   1.24241661
5/27/96   $108,820,181   $83,707,832   4.00%   0.00%   $3,219,532   0.00955705   0.02389263   1.19463135
11/26/96   $113,260,044   $87,123,111   4.08%   102.00%   $3,415,280   0.00918241   0.02295602   1.14780107
5/27/97   $117,973,474   $90,748,826   4.16%   102.00%   $3,625,715   0.00881554   0.02203885   1.10194262
11/26/97   $122,981,250   $94,600,962   4.24%   102.00%   $3,852,135   0.00845657   0.02114143   1.05707171
5/28/98   $126,670,688   $97,438,991   3.00%   0.00%   $2,838,029   0.00821027   0.02052566   1.02628321
11/26/98   $130,280,802   $100,216,002   2.85%   95.00%   $2,777,011   0.00798276   0.01995689   0.99784464
5/28/99   $133,808,155   $102,929,350   2.71%   95.00%   $2,713,348   0.00777232   0.01943080   0.97154019
11/26/99   $137,249,868   $105,576,822   2.57%   95.00%   $2,647,472   0.00757742   0.01894355   0.94717760
5/28/2100   $142,739,863   $109,799,894   4.00%   0.00%   $4,223,073   0.00728598   0.01821495   0.91074769
11/27/2100   $148,563,649   $114,279,730   4.08%   102.00%   $4,479,836   0.00700037   0.01750092   0.87504582
5/28/2101   $154,746,274   $119,035,595   4.16%   102.00%   $4,755,865   0.00672068   0.01680170   0.84008485
11/27/2101   $161,314,993   $124,088,456   4.24%   102.00%   $5,052,861   0.00644701   0.01611753   0.80587673
5/28/2102   $166,154,443   $127,811,110   3.00%   0.00%   $3,722,654   0.00625924   0.01564809   0.78240460
11/27/2102   $170,889,845   $131,453,727   2.85%   95.00%   $3,642,617   0.00608579   0.01521448   0.76072396
5/29/2103   $175,516,687   $135,012,836   2.71%   95.00%   $3,559,110   0.00592536   0.01481341   0.74067031
11/27/2103   $180,031,196   $138,485,535   2.57%   95.00%   $3,472,699   0.00577678   0.01444194   0.72209707
5/28/2104   $185,432,132   $142,640,101   3.00%   0.00%   $4,154,566   0.00560852   0.01402130   0.70106512
11/26/2104   $191,106,355   $147,004,889   3.06%   102.00%   $4,364,787   0.00544200   0.01360499   0.68024949
5/28/2105   $197,071,167   $151,593,205   3.12%   102.00%   $4,588,317   0.00527728   0.01319320   0.65966017
11/27/2105   $203,345,172   $156,419,363   3.18%   102.00%   $4,826,158   0.00511446   0.01278614   0.63930704
5/28/2106   $207,412,075   $159,547,750   2.00%   0.00%   $3,128,387   0.00501417   0.01253543   0.62677161
11/27/2106   $211,352,904   $162,579,157   1.90%   95.00%   $3,031,407   0.00492068   0.01230170   0.61508499
5/28/2107   $215,167,824   $165,513,711   1.81%   95.00%   $2,934,554   0.00483344   0.01208359   0.60417955
11/27/2107   $218,857,415   $168,351,857   1.71%   95.00%   $2,838,146   0.00475195   0.01187988   0.59399404
5/28/2108   $225,423,137   $173,402,413   3.00%   0.00%   $5,050,556   0.00461355   0.01153386   0.57669324
11/26/2108   $232,321,085   $178,708,527   3.06%   102.00%   $5,306,114   0.00447656   0.01119141   0.55957039
5/28/2109   $239,572,291   $184,286,378   3.12%   102.00%   $5,577,851   0.00434107   0.01085267   0.54263371
11/26/2109   $247,199,372   $190,153,363   3.18%   102.00%   $5,866,985   0.00420713   0.01051783   0.52589130
5/28/2110   $252,143,359   $193,956,430   2.00%   0.00%   $3,803,067   0.00412464   0.01031159   0.51557971
11/27/2110   $256,934,083   $197,641,602   1.90%   95.00%   $3,685,172   0.00404773   0.01011933   0.50596635
5/28/2111   $261,571,743   $201,209,033   1.81%   95.00%   $3,567,431   0.00397596   0.00993991   0.49699558
11/27/2111   $266,057,045   $204,659,265   1.71%   95.00%   $3,450,232   0.00390894   0.00977234   0.48861702
5/27/2112   $274,038,756   $210,799,043   3.00%   0.00%   $6,139,778   0.00379508   0.00948771   0.47438546
11/26/2112   $282,424,342   $217,249,494   3.06%   102.00%   $6,450,451   0.00368240   0.00920601   0.46030027
5/28/2113   $291,239,370   $224,030,285   3.12%   102.00%   $6,780,791   0.00357095   0.00892736   0.44636822
11/26/2113   $300,511,337   $231,162,567   3.18%   102.00%   $7,132,282   0.00346077   0.00865192   0.43259599
5/28/2114   $306,521,564   $235,785,818   2.00%   0.00%   $4,623,251   0.00339291   0.00848227   0.42411372
11/26/2114   $312,345,473   $240,265,749   1.90%   95.00%   $4,479,931   0.00332965   0.00832412   0.41620581
5/28/2115   $317,983,309   $244,602,546   1.81%   95.00%   $4,336,797   0.00327061   0.00817653   0.40882649
11/27/2115   $323,435,928   $248,796,868   1.71%   95.00%   $4,194,322   0.00321547   0.00803869   0.40193432
5/27/2116   $333,139,006   $256,260,774   3.00%   0.00%   $7,463,906   0.00312182   0.00780455   0.39022750
11/26/2116   $343,333,059   $264,102,353   3.06%   102.00%   $7,841,580   0.00302913   0.00757282   0.37864108
5/27/2117   $354,049,171   $272,345,516   3.12%   102.00%   $8,243,163   0.00293745   0.00734361   0.36718064
11/26/2117   $365,320,765   $281,015,973   3.18%   102.00%   $8,670,457   0.00284681   0.00711703   0.35585166
5/28/2118   $372,627,181   $286,636,293   2.00%   0.00%   $5,620,319   0.00279099   0.00697748   0.34887417
11/26/2118   $379,707,097   $292,082,382   1.90%   95.00%   $5,446,090   0.00273895   0.00684738   0.34236916
5/28/2119   $386,560,810   $297,354,469   1.81%   95.00%   $5,272,087   0.00269039   0.00672598   0.33629896
11/26/2119   $393,189,362   $302,453,355   1.71%   95.00%   $5,098,886   0.00264504   0.00661259   0.33062949
5/27/2120   $404,985,042   $311,526,956   3.00%   0.00%   $9,073,601   0.00256800   0.00641999   0.32099951
11/26/2120   $417,377,585   $321,059,681   3.06%   102.00%   $9,532,725   0.00249175   0.00622937   0.31146857
5/27/2121   $430,404,774   $331,080,595   3.12%   102.00%   $10,020,915   0.00241633   0.00604083   0.30204126
11/26/2121   $444,107,244   $341,620,957   3.18%   102.00%   $10,540,361   0.00234178   0.00585444   0.29272209
5/27/2122   $452,989,388   $348,453,376   2.00%   0.00%   $6,832,419   0.00229586   0.00573965   0.28698244
11/26/2122   $461,596,187   $355,073,990   1.90%   95.00%   $6,620,614   0.00225305   0.00563263   0.28163144
5/28/2123   $469,927,998   $361,483,075   1.81%   95.00%   $6,409,086   0.00221310   0.00553276   0.27663812
11/26/2123   $477,986,088   $367,681,606   1.71%   95.00%   $6,198,531   0.00217580   0.00543949   0.27197444
5/27/2124   $492,325,671   $378,712,055   3.00%   0.00%   $11,030,448   0.00211242   0.00528106   0.26405286
11/25/2124   $507,390,837   $390,300,643   3.06%   102.00%   $11,588,589   0.00204970   0.00512425   0.25621275
5/27/2125   $523,227,519   $402,482,707   3.12%   102.00%   $12,182,064   0.00198766   0.00496916   0.24845788
11/26/2125   $539,885,116   $415,296,243   3.18%   102.00%   $12,813,536   0.00192634   0.00481584   0.24079197
5/27/2126   $550,682,819   $423,602,168   2.00%   0.00%   $8,305,925   0.00188856   0.00472141   0.23607056
11/26/2126   $561,145,792   $431,650,609   1.90%   95.00%   $8,048,441   0.00185335   0.00463338   0.23166885
5/27/2127   $571,274,474   $439,441,903   1.81%   95.00%   $7,791,293   0.00182049   0.00455123   0.22756137
11/26/2127   $581,070,403   $446,977,233   1.71%   95.00%   $7,535,330   0.00178980   0.00447450   0.22372504
5/27/2128   $592,691,811   $455,916,777   2.00%   0.00%   $8,939,545   0.00175471   0.00438677   0.21933828
11/25/2128   $604,782,724   $465,217,480   2.04%   102.00%   $9,300,702   0.00171963   0.00429906   0.21495323
5/27/2129   $617,367,043   $474,897,725   2.08%   102.00%   $9,680,245   0.00168457   0.00421143   0.21057166
11/25/2129   $630,470,139   $484,977,030   2.12%   102.00%   $10,079,305   0.00164956   0.00412391   0.20619533
5/27/2130   $643,079,542   $494,676,571   2.00%   0.00%   $9,699,541   0.00161722   0.00404305   0.20215229
11/26/2130   $655,298,054   $504,075,426   1.90%   95.00%   $9,398,855   0.00158706   0.00396766   0.19838301
5/27/2131   $667,126,183   $513,173,987   1.81%   95.00%   $9,098,561   0.00155893   0.00389731   0.19486568
11/26/2131   $678,565,730   $521,973,638   1.71%   95.00%   $8,799,651   0.00153264   0.00383161   0.19158056
5/26/2132   $692,137,044   $532,413,111   2.00%   0.00%   $10,439,473   0.00150259   0.00375648   0.18782407
11/25/2132   $706,256,640   $543,274,338   2.04%   102.00%   $10,861,227   0.00147255   0.00368138   0.18406907
5/27/2133   $720,952,428   $554,578,791   2.08%   102.00%   $11,304,452   0.00144254   0.00360634   0.18031703
11/25/2133   $736,254,038   $566,349,260   2.12%   102.00%   $11,770,469   0.00141256   0.00353139   0.17656949
5/27/2134   $750,979,119   $577,676,245   2.00%   0.00%   $11,326,985   0.00138486   0.00346215   0.17310734
11/25/2134   $765,247,722   $588,652,094   1.90%   95.00%   $10,975,849   0.00135904   0.00339759   0.16987963
5/27/2135   $779,060,443   $599,277,264   1.81%   95.00%   $10,625,170   0.00133494   0.00333735   0.16686767
11/26/2135   $792,419,382   $609,553,371   1.71%   95.00%   $10,276,107   0.00131244   0.00328109   0.16405454
5/26/2136   $808,267,770   $621,744,438   2.00%   0.00%   $12,191,067   0.00128670   0.00321676   0.16083779
11/25/2136   $824,756,432   $634,428,025   2.04%   102.00%   $12,683,587   0.00126098   0.00315245   0.15762229
5/26/2137   $841,917,964   $647,629,203   2.08%   102.00%   $13,201,178   0.00123527   0.00308819   0.15440934
11/25/2137   $859,786,966   $661,374,589   2.12%   102.00%   $13,745,386   0.00120960   0.00302400   0.15120025
5/27/2138   $876,982,705   $674,602,081   2.00%   0.00%   $13,227,492   0.00118588   0.00296471   0.14823553
11/25/2138   $893,645,376   $687,419,520   1.90%   95.00%   $12,817,440   0.00116377   0.00290943   0.14547157
5/27/2139   $909,775,675   $699,827,443   1.81%   95.00%   $12,407,922   0.00114314   0.00285785   0.14289237
11/25/2139   $925,376,054   $711,827,734   1.71%   95.00%   $12,000,291   0.00112387   0.00280967   0.14048343
5/26/2140   $943,883,575   $726,064,288   2.00%   0.00%   $14,236,555   0.00110183   0.00275458   0.13772885
11/25/2140   $963,138,800   $740,876,000   2.04%   102.00%   $14,811,711   0.00107980   0.00269951   0.13497535
5/26/2141   $983,179,792   $756,292,148   2.08%   102.00%   $15,416,148   0.00105779   0.00264448   0.13222404
11/25/2141   $1,004,046,957   $772,343,813   2.12%   102.00%   $16,051,666   0.00103581   0.00258952   0.12947602
5/26/2142   $1,024,127,896   $787,790,690   2.00%   0.00%   $15,446,876   0.00101550   0.00253875   0.12693727
11/25/2142   $1,043,586,326   $802,758,713   1.90%   95.00%   $14,968,023   0.00099656   0.00249141   0.12457043
5/27/2143   $1,062,423,060   $817,248,507   1.81%   95.00%   $14,489,795   0.00097889   0.00244724   0.12236180
11/25/2143   $1,080,640,959   $831,262,276   1.71%   95.00%   $14,013,769   0.00096239   0.00240598   0.12029898
5/26/2144   $1,102,253,778   $847,887,522   2.00%   0.00%   $16,625,246   0.00094352   0.00235880   0.11794017
11/24/2144   $1,124,739,755   $865,184,427   2.04%   102.00%   $17,296,905   0.00092466   0.00231165   0.11558229
5/26/2145   $1,148,143,340   $883,187,185   2.08%   102.00%   $18,002,758   0.00090581   0.00226453   0.11322628
11/25/2145   $1,172,511,718   $901,932,091   2.12%   102.00%   $18,744,906   0.00088698   0.00221746   0.11087309
5/26/2146   $1,195,961,952   $919,970,733   2.00%   0.00%   $18,038,642   0.00086959   0.00217398   0.10869911
11/25/2146   $1,218,685,230   $937,450,177   1.90%   95.00%   $17,479,444   0.00085338   0.00213345   0.10667234
5/26/2147   $1,240,682,498   $954,371,152   1.81%   95.00%   $16,920,976   0.00083825   0.00209562   0.10478104
11/25/2147   $1,261,957,101   $970,736,232   1.71%   95.00%   $16,365,079   0.00082412   0.00206029   0.10301460
5/26/2148   $1,287,196,243   $990,150,956   2.00%   0.00%   $19,414,725   0.00080796   0.00201989   0.10099470
11/24/2148   $1,313,455,046   $1,010,350,036   2.04%   102.00%   $20,199,080   0.00079180   0.00197951   0.09897560
5/26/2149   $1,340,785,419   $1,031,373,399   2.08%   102.00%   $21,023,364   0.00077566   0.00193916   0.09695809
11/24/2149   $1,369,242,463   $1,053,263,433   2.12%   102.00%   $21,890,034   0.00075954   0.00189886   0.09494301
5/26/2150   $1,396,627,313   $1,074,328,702   2.00%   0.00%   $21,065,269   0.00074465   0.00186163   0.09308138
11/25/2150   $1,423,163,231   $1,094,740,947   1.90%   95.00%   $20,412,245   0.00073077   0.00182692   0.09134581
5/26/2151   $1,448,851,328   $1,114,501,021   1.81%   95.00%   $19,760,074   0.00071781   0.00179453   0.08972625
11/25/2151   $1,473,695,506   $1,133,611,928   1.71%   95.00%   $19,110,906   0.00070571   0.00176427   0.08821361
5/25/2152   $1,503,169,416   $1,156,284,166   2.00%   0.00%   $22,672,239   0.00069187   0.00172968   0.08648393
11/24/2152   $1,533,834,072   $1,179,872,363   2.04%   102.00%   $23,588,197   0.00067804   0.00169510   0.08475493
5/26/2153   $1,565,750,092   $1,204,423,147   2.08%   102.00%   $24,550,784   0.00066422   0.00166055   0.08302730
11/24/2153   $1,598,981,822   $1,229,986,017   2.12%   102.00%   $25,562,870   0.00065041   0.00162603   0.08130174
5/26/2154   $1,630,961,458   $1,254,585,737   2.00%   0.00%   $24,599,720   0.00063766   0.00159415   0.07970759
11/24/2154   $1,661,949,726   $1,278,422,866   1.90%   95.00%   $23,837,129   0.00062577   0.00156443   0.07822138
5/26/2155   $1,691,947,919   $1,301,498,399   1.81%   95.00%   $23,075,533   0.00061468   0.00153669   0.07683452
11/25/2155   $1,720,960,596   $1,323,815,843   1.71%   95.00%   $22,317,444   0.00060431   0.00151078   0.07553921
5/25/2156   $1,755,379,808   $1,350,292,160   2.00%   0.00%   $26,476,317   0.00059246   0.00148116   0.07405805
11/24/2156   $1,791,189,556   $1,377,838,120   2.04%   102.00%   $27,545,960   0.00058062   0.00145155   0.07257747
5/25/2157   $1,828,460,628   $1,406,508,175   2.08%   102.00%   $28,670,056   0.00056878   0.00142196   0.07109806

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[Biodom]

Your graph reminds me of this one:

Conclusion are not overly different, but a good parameter to keep in mind.

I cannot recall ever thinking about it like that... right now we have the 200-WMA at $51k and we have the previous ATH at $69k, and the 200-WMA is moving up around $50 per day, yet the rate per day is likely to continue to increase beyond $50 per day, so there is still room for the 200-WMA to reach that level.. we still have another $18k to go.

Which would translate into (69k$ - 51k$) / 50 $/day = 360 days, aka one year if  the 200-WMA doesn't speed up significantly - which it could, but probably just a bit.

Yeah, I also guesstimated similar numbers, but @ JJG says-end of Nov 2025, which is only 119 days away.

As you mentioned, it can happened if we start ripping up (and we should ), but not if we would be on a current steady projection.

[AlcoHoDL]

[...]

If you don't mind, let's update that information from 2010 to 2157 so that the similarly generated data is all contained within one table... so this is the raw data that I have in my Excel spreadsheet for the actual facts from December 2010 to May 2025, and the projected out data from November 2025 to May 2157.  

[...]

[ Table data edited out ]

I built the full table, but the forum does not like it. It says it exceeds the maximum number of characters: 64,000 characters. The entire table in BBCode format is ~58,000 characters. If you add the CR+LF characters of the ~3300 lines it takes, that should just about exceed the limit...

Let me do some clever reformatting... Be back soon.

[Biodom]

Imagine, from ~$200,000 down to capitulation wick $75,000 V shape recovery towards another massive bullrun pre-2028 halving combined with the halving effect hitting the anticipated $1,000,000 in 2029.

R.I.P classic 4 year cycles.


X.

Winter is not coming back sounds wishy washy...people theorized that the world of GOT is (if we are suspending the disbelief) on a long elliptical orbit or something like that or even some "moderate two star situation" (http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.0445) ...still better than the Trisolaran world of unstable eras of the "Three body problem" epic.

That said...my prediction would be that if we are to have a supercycle, the tension in the system would be so high that it would be followed by at least a full cycle long Depression.
Imho, the regular cycle bear makes it smoother, overall, paradoxically.

[JayJuanGee]

Your graph reminds me of this one:

Conclusion are not overly different, but a good parameter to keep in mind.

I cannot recall ever thinking about it like that... right now we have the 200-WMA at $51k and we have the previous ATH at $69k, and the 200-WMA is moving up around $50 per day, yet the rate per day is likely to continue to increase beyond $50 per day, so there is still room for the 200-WMA to reach that level.. we still have another $18k to go.

Which would translate into (69k$ - 51k$) / 50 $/day = 360 days, aka one year if  the 200-WMA doesn't speed up significantly - which it could, but probably just a bit.

Yeah, I also guesstimated similar numbers, but @ JJG says-end of Nov 2025, which is only 119 days away.

As you mentioned, it can happened if we start ripping up (and we should ), but not if we would be on a current steady projection.

Yep.. .I consider my projection to be an attempt to figure out what is the most likely base case, and surely my projection has a built in assumption of BTC prices having some decent amount of upward tear that contributes to the 200-WMA moving up faster than its current rate of moving up, and for sure, my projection might not end up playing out, even though I consider it to be a base case, and even if the crossing over of the $69k ends up happening a month or two sooner or a few months later, it does not hurt to attempt to project it out, and surely I don't proclaim to be any kind of future sorcerer, but instead trying to assign values based on what I consider scenarios that have the higher chances of playing out... which yeah, if we add up all of the scenarios maybe my base case might still only end up having 30% to 40% odds, even though I still consider my base case to be the more likely of scenarios within my own opinion frame-work (for whatever that is worth), given the various alternative scenarios that would be contending to within the realm of possibilities to play out.

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Sure, no problem. Here is the full table, formatted in BBCode table form.
[table that does not show - due to INVALID BBCODE: loop, probably unclosed tags]      

There may we ways that the contents of the table will show if some of the data is removed (like removing 5 years at a time until it finally shows up?)..   I will not try to make any changes on my end, and I will leave it to you to figure out, for now..

I built the full table, but the forum does not like it. It says it exceeds the maximum number of characters: 64,000 characters. The entire table in BBCode format is ~58000 characters. If you add the CR+LF characters of the ~3300 lines it takes, that should just about exceed the limit...

Let me do some clever reformatting... Be back soon.

O.k.  Sure.  See what you can do to be able to publish the whole thing.. otherwise, if it does not cover so many dates, that might work too.. such as cutting 5, 10, 20, 30, 50 years off of the end of it.

[edited out]

Winter is not coming back sounds wishy washy...people theorized that the world of GOT is (if we are suspending the disbelief) on a long elliptical orbit or something like that or even some "moderate two star situation"...still better than the Trisolaran world of unstable eras of Three body problem epic.

To me, it sounds like a wee bit of an arrogant "over promise and under deliver" in regards to some kind of a phenomena that is not within the ability of anyone, including Saylor to deliver... and so yeah the continuation of the 4-year cycles (or some close variant of it) seems the more probable scenario, which likely ongoingly includes goth ups and downs... whether we refer to the downs as winters or we come up with some other clever name to label them as if they were a "new" phenomena when it it merely whine delivered in a different style of a flask.

That said...my prediction would be that if we are to have a supercycle, the tension in the system would be so high that it would be followed by at least a full cycle long Depression.
Imho, the regular cycle bear makes it smoother, overall, paradoxically.

That is another way of saying that ongoing cycles seem more likely, at least for the time being, even if there might be some periods in which BTC price dynamics might seem to be deviating from its historical cycle patterns.

[AlcoHoDL]

[...]

If you don't mind, let's update that information from 2010 to 2157 so that the similarly generated data is all contained within one table... so this is the raw data that I have in my Excel spreadsheet for the actual facts from December 2010 to May 2025, and the projected out data from November 2025 to May 2157.  

[...]

[ Table data edited out ]

Alright. I tried some tricks, but still could not make the forum accept the entire table. So I started chopping off years, in 5-year chunks, as per your suggestion. I was able to go up to year 2090. That's quite a limitation, as the entire table is not that large... I guess SMF 1.1.19 (2006-2009) doesn't like big posts (as the Bitcoin White Paper doesn't like big blocks). LOL!

Date	SpotPrice	200 WMA	%gain/time	Spotvs200	gain/time	Coins/10%FU Status	Coins/4%FU Status	Filthy-Rich
12/1/10	$0.23	$0.12	xxx	91.67%	xxx	6,666,667	16,666,667	833,333,333
6/1/11	$9.57	$1.03	758.33%	829.13%	$0.91	776,699	1,941,748	97,087,379
12/1/11	$3.06	$3.94	282.52%	-22.34%	$2.91	203,046	507,614	25,380,711
5/31/12	$5.18	$4.21	6.85%	23.04%	$0.27	190,024	475,059	23,752,969
11/30/12	$12.57	$5.42	28.74%	131.92%	$1.21	147,601	369,004	18,450,185
6/1/13	$129.09	$15.09	178.41%	755.47%	$9.67	53,015.2419	132,538	6,626,905
11/30/13	$1,127.45	$40.59	168.99%	2677.65%	$25.50	19,709.2880	49,273.2200	2,463,661
6/1/14	$640.16	$119.77	195.07%	434.49%	$79.18	6,679.4690	16,698.6725	834,934
11/30/14	$376.47	$183.18	52.94%	105.52%	$63.41	4,367.2890	10,918.2225	545,911
6/1/15	$223.32	$216.22	18.04%	3.28%	$33.04	3,699.9353	9,249.8381	462,492
12/1/15	$363.45	$250.78	15.98%	44.93%	$34.56	3,190.0471	7,975.1176	398,756
5/31/16	$531.41	$305.36	21.76%	74.03%	$54.58	2,619.8585	6,549.6463	327,482
11/30/16	$742.36	$387.63	26.94%	91.51%	$82.27	2,063.8237	5,159.5594	257,978
5/31/17	$2,329	$528.67	36.39%	340.55%	$141.04	1,513.2313	3,783.0783	189,154
11/30/17	$10,406	$1,042	97.10%	898.66%	$513.33	767.75431862	1,919.3858	95,969
6/1/18	$7,460	$2,363	126.78%	215.70%	$1,321	338.55268726	846.38172	42,319
11/30/18	$4,279	$3,161	33.77%	35.37%	$798	253.08446694	632.71117	31,636
6/1/19	$8,576	$3,727	17.91%	130.10%	$566	214.64985243	536.62463	26,831
11/30/19	$7,721	$4,927	32.20%	56.71%	$1,200	162.37061092	405.92653	20,296
5/31/20	$9,663	$5,917	20.09%	63.31%	$990	135.20365050	338.00913	16,900
11/30/20	$18,170	$7,338	24.02%	147.62%	$1,421	109.02153175	272.55383	13,628
5/31/21	$35,715	$12,753	73.79%	180.05%	$5,415	62.73033796	156.82584	7,841.2922
11/30/21	$57,849	$17,766	39.31%	225.62%	$5,013	45.02983226	112.57458	5,628.7290
5/31/22	$31,741	$22,070	24.23%	43.82%	$4,304	36.24830086	90.62075215	4,531.0376
11/30/22	$16,442	$24,101	9.20%	-31.78%	$2,031	33.19364342	82.98410854	4,149.2054
6/1/23	$27,245	$26,311	9.17%	3.55%	$2,210	30.40553381	76.01383452	3,800.6917
11/30/23	$37,810	$29,027	10.32%	30.26%	$2,716	27.56054708	68.90136769	3,445.0684
5/31/24	$68,372	$35,188	21.23%	94.30%	$6,161	22.73502330	56.83755826	2,841.8779
11/29/24	$95,662	$41,513	17.97%	130.44%	$6,325	19.27107171	48.17767928	2,408.8840
5/31/25	$104,011	$47,916	15.42%	117.07%	$6,403	16.69588446	41.73971116	2,086.9856
11/30/25	$89,699	$68,999	44.00%	102.00%	$21,083	11.59436421	28.98591053	1,449.2955
5/31/26	$107,639	$82,799	20.00%	0.00%	$13,800	9.66197018	24.15492544	1,207.7463
11/30/26	$123,784	$95,219	15.00%	95.00%	$12,420	8.40171320	21.00428299	1,050.2141
5/31/27	$138,638	$106,645	12.00%	95.00%	$11,426	7.50152964	18.75382410	937.6912
11/30/27	$154,443	$118,802	11.40%	95.00%	$12,158	6.73386862	16.83467154	841.7336
5/31/28	$177,610	$136,623	15.00%	0.00%	$17,820	5.85553793	14.63884482	731.9422
11/29/28	$204,784	$157,526	15.30%	102.00%	$20,903	5.07852379	12.69630947	634.8155
5/31/29	$236,742	$182,110	15.61%	102.00%	$24,584	4.39295866	10.98239665	549.11983
11/29/29	$274,427	$211,098	15.92%	102.00%	$28,988	3.78970834	9.47427085	473.71354
5/31/30	$299,126	$230,097	9.00%	0.00%	$18,999	3.47679664	8.69199160	434.59958
11/30/30	$324,701	$249,770	8.55%	95.00%	$19,673	3.20294486	8.00736214	400.36811
5/31/31	$351,075	$270,058	8.12%	95.00%	$20,288	2.96232963	7.40582408	370.29120
11/30/31	$378,165	$290,896	7.72%	95.00%	$20,839	2.75012006	6.87530014	343.76501
5/30/32	$423,545	$325,804	12.00%	0.00%	$34,908	2.45546434	6.13866084	306.93304
11/29/32	$475,387	$365,682	12.24%	102.00%	$39,878	2.18769096	5.46922740	273.46137
5/31/33	$534,738	$411,337	12.48%	102.00%	$45,655	1.94487696	4.86219241	243.10962
11/29/33	$602,834	$463,719	12.73%	102.00%	$52,382	1.72518353	4.31295884	215.64794
5/31/34	$645,033	$496,179	7.00%	0.00%	$32,460	1.61232106	4.03080265	201.54013
11/29/34	$687,928	$529,175	6.65%	95.00%	$32,996	1.51178721	3.77946803	188.97340
5/31/35	$731,387	$562,606	6.32%	95.00%	$33,431	1.42195519	3.55488798	177.74440
11/30/35	$775,282	$596,371	6.00%	95.00%	$33,765	1.34144660	3.35361649	167.68082
5/30/36	$852,811	$656,008	10.00%	0.00%	$59,637	1.21949691	3.04874227	152.43711
11/29/36	$939,797	$722,921	10.20%	102.00%	$66,913	1.10662151	2.76655378	138.32769
5/30/37	$1,037,574	$798,134	10.40%	102.00%	$75,213	1.00233824	2.50584560	125.29228
11/29/37	$1,147,682	$882,832	10.61%	102.00%	$84,699	0.90617430	2.26543575	113.27179
5/31/38	$1,216,543	$935,802	6.00%	0.00%	$52,970	0.85488141	2.13720354	106.86018
11/29/38	$1,285,886	$989,143	5.70%	95.00%	$53,341	0.80878090	2.02195226	101.09761
5/31/39	$1,355,517	$1,042,705	5.42%	95.00%	$53,562	0.76723512	1.91808780	95.90439
11/29/39	$1,425,248	$1,096,344	5.14%	95.00%	$53,639	0.72969765	1.82424413	91.21221
5/30/40	$1,539,268	$1,184,052	8.00%	0.00%	$87,708	0.67564597	1.68911493	84.45575
11/29/40	$1,664,872	$1,280,671	8.16%	102.00%	$96,619	0.62467268	1.56168170	78.08409
5/30/41	$1,803,443	$1,387,263	8.32%	102.00%	$106,593	0.57667488	1.44168720	72.08436
11/29/41	$1,956,549	$1,505,037	8.49%	102.00%	$117,774	0.53154822	1.32887055	66.44353
5/30/42	$2,054,376	$1,580,289	5.00%	0.00%	$75,252	0.50623640	1.26559100	63.27955
11/29/42	$2,151,959	$1,655,353	4.75%	95.00%	$75,064	0.48328057	1.20820143	60.41007
5/31/43	$2,249,066	$1,730,051	4.51%	95.00%	$74,698	0.46241414	1.15603534	57.80176690
11/29/43	$2,345,481	$1,804,216	4.29%	95.00%	$74,165	0.44340588	1.10851470	55.42573493
5/30/44	$2,509,665	$1,930,511	7.00%	0.00%	$126,295	0.41439802	1.03599505	51.79975227
11/28/44	$2,688,855	$2,068,350	7.14%	102.00%	$137,838	0.38678180	0.96695449	48.34772472
5/30/45	$2,884,678	$2,218,983	7.28%	102.00%	$150,634	0.36052545	0.90131363	45.06568129
11/29/45	$3,098,966	$2,383,820	7.43%	102.00%	$164,836	0.33559586	0.83898965	41.94948244
5/30/46	$3,222,924	$2,479,172	4.00%	0.00%	$95,353	0.32268833	0.80672082	40.33604081
11/29/46	$3,345,395	$2,573,381	3.80%	95.00%	$94,209	0.31087507	0.77718768	38.85938421
5/30/47	$3,466,164	$2,666,280	3.61%	95.00%	$92,899	0.30004350	0.75010876	37.50543790
11/29/47	$3,585,036	$2,757,720	3.43%	95.00%	$91,440	0.29009471	0.72523676	36.26183816
5/30/48	$3,800,138	$2,923,183	6.00%	0.00%	$165,463	0.27367425	0.68418563	34.20928128
11/28/48	$4,032,707	$3,102,082	6.12%	102.00%	$178,899	0.25789130	0.64472826	32.23641282
5/30/49	$4,284,444	$3,295,727	6.24%	102.00%	$193,644	0.24273859	0.60684647	30.34232361
11/28/49	$4,557,246	$3,505,574	6.37%	102.00%	$209,847	0.22820802	0.57052005	28.52600230
5/30/50	$4,693,963	$3,610,741	3.00%	0.00%	$105,167	0.22156118	0.55390296	27.69514786
11/29/50	$4,827,741	$3,713,647	2.85%	95.00%	$102,906	0.21542167	0.53855416	26.92770818
5/30/51	$4,958,452	$3,814,194	2.71%	95.00%	$100,547	0.20974288	0.52435719	26.21785963
11/29/51	$5,085,990	$3,912,300	2.57%	95.00%	$98,106	0.20448331	0.51120828	25.56041384
5/29/52	$5,340,289	$4,107,915	5.00%	0.00%	$195,615	0.19474601	0.48686503	24.34325127
11/28/52	$5,612,644	$4,317,418	5.10%	102.00%	$209,504	0.18529592	0.46323980	23.16198979
5/30/53	$5,904,614	$4,542,010	5.20%	102.00%	$224,592	0.17613346	0.44033364	22.01668200
11/28/53	$6,217,915	$4,783,011	5.31%	102.00%	$241,001	0.16725865	0.41814661	20.90733067
5/30/54	$6,404,452	$4,926,502	3.00%	0.00%	$143,490	0.16238703	0.40596759	20.29837929
11/28/54	$6,586,979	$5,066,907	2.85%	95.00%	$140,405	0.15788725	0.39471812	19.73590597
5/30/55	$6,765,322	$5,204,094	2.71%	95.00%	$137,187	0.15372514	0.38431285	19.21564245
11/29/55	$6,939,334	$5,337,949	2.57%	95.00%	$133,856	0.14987029	0.37467572	18.73378605
5/29/56	$7,216,907	$5,551,467	4.00%	0.00%	$213,518	0.14410605	0.36026512	18.01325582
11/28/56	$7,511,357	$5,777,967	4.08%	102.00%	$226,500	0.13845700	0.34614250	17.30712512
5/29/57	$7,823,950	$6,018,423	4.16%	102.00%	$240,456	0.13292519	0.33231297	16.61564830
11/28/57	$8,156,063	$6,273,895	4.24%	102.00%	$255,472	0.12751250	0.31878124	15.93906190
5/30/58	$8,400,745	$6,462,112	3.00%	0.00%	$188,217	0.12379854	0.30949635	15.47481738
11/28/58	$8,640,167	$6,646,282	2.85%	95.00%	$184,170	0.12036805	0.30092012	15.04600620
5/30/59	$8,874,099	$6,826,230	2.71%	95.00%	$179,948	0.11719500	0.29298749	14.64937439
11/28/59	$9,102,352	$7,001,809	2.57%	95.00%	$175,579	0.11425618	0.28564046	14.28202291
5/29/60	$9,466,446	$7,281,882	4.00%	0.00%	$280,072	0.10986171	0.27465429	13.73271433
11/28/60	$9,852,677	$7,578,982	4.08%	102.00%	$297,101	0.10555507	0.26388767	13.19438349
5/29/61	$10,262,706	$7,894,389	4.16%	102.00%	$315,407	0.10133779	0.25334449	12.66722428
11/28/61	$10,698,341	$8,229,493	4.24%	102.00%	$335,104	0.09721134	0.24302834	12.15141704
5/29/62	$11,019,291	$8,476,378	3.00%	0.00%	$246,885	0.09437994	0.23594985	11.79749227
11/28/62	$11,333,341	$8,717,954	2.85%	95.00%	$241,577	0.09176465	0.22941161	11.47058072
5/30/63	$11,640,191	$8,953,993	2.71%	95.00%	$236,039	0.08934561	0.22336403	11.16820166
11/28/63	$11,939,591	$9,184,301	2.57%	95.00%	$230,308	0.08710516	0.21776290	10.88814496
5/29/64	$12,417,175	$9,551,673	4.00%	0.00%	$367,372	0.08375496	0.20938740	10.46937016
11/27/64	$12,923,796	$9,941,381	4.08%	102.00%	$389,708	0.08047172	0.20117929	10.05896441
5/29/65	$13,461,632	$10,355,102	4.16%	102.00%	$413,721	0.07725660	0.19314151	9.65707555
11/28/65	$14,033,056	$10,794,658	4.24%	102.00%	$439,557	0.07411073	0.18527682	9.26384106
5/29/66	$14,454,048	$11,118,498	3.00%	0.00%	$323,840	0.07195216	0.17988041	8.99402045
11/28/66	$14,865,988	$11,435,375	2.85%	95.00%	$316,877	0.06995835	0.17489588	8.74479383
5/29/67	$15,268,485	$11,744,988	2.71%	95.00%	$309,613	0.06811416	0.17028540	8.51426997
11/28/67	$15,661,209	$12,047,084	2.57%	95.00%	$302,096	0.06640611	0.16601528	8.30076394
5/29/68	$16,287,657	$12,528,967	4.00%	0.00%	$481,883	0.06385203	0.15963008	7.98150379
11/27/68	$16,952,194	$13,040,149	4.08%	102.00%	$511,182	0.06134899	0.15337248	7.66862393
5/29/69	$17,657,676	$13,582,828	4.16%	102.00%	$542,679	0.05889790	0.14724474	7.36223708
11/27/69	$18,407,215	$14,159,396	4.24%	102.00%	$576,568	0.05649958	0.14124896	7.06244802
5/29/70	$18,959,432	$14,584,178	3.00%	0.00%	$424,782	0.05485397	0.13713491	6.85674565
11/28/70	$19,499,775	$14,999,827	2.85%	95.00%	$415,649	0.05333395	0.13333487	6.66674346
5/29/71	$20,027,732	$15,405,948	2.71%	95.00%	$406,120	0.05192800	0.12981999	6.49099965
11/28/71	$20,542,870	$15,802,208	2.57%	95.00%	$396,260	0.05062584	0.12656459	6.32822967
5/28/72	$21,364,585	$16,434,296	4.00%	0.00%	$632,088	0.04867869	0.12169672	6.08483622
11/27/72	$22,236,260	$17,104,815	4.08%	102.00%	$670,519	0.04677046	0.11692614	5.84630690
5/29/73	$23,161,644	$17,816,649	4.16%	102.00%	$711,834	0.04490182	0.11225455	5.61272763
11/27/73	$24,144,817	$18,572,936	4.24%	102.00%	$756,287	0.04307343	0.10768357	5.38417830
5/29/74	$24,869,162	$19,130,124	3.00%	0.00%	$557,188	0.04181886	0.10454715	5.22735758
11/27/74	$25,577,933	$19,675,333	2.85%	95.00%	$545,209	0.04066005	0.10165012	5.08250615
5/29/75	$26,270,455	$20,208,042	2.71%	95.00%	$532,710	0.03958820	0.09897050	4.94852484
11/28/75	$26,946,164	$20,727,819	2.57%	95.00%	$519,776	0.03859547	0.09648869	4.82443436
5/28/76	$28,024,011	$21,556,931	4.00%	0.00%	$829,113	0.03711103	0.09277758	4.63887919
11/27/76	$29,167,390	$22,436,454	4.08%	102.00%	$879,523	0.03565626	0.08914065	4.45703227
5/28/77	$30,381,220	$23,370,170	4.16%	102.00%	$933,715	0.03423167	0.08557918	4.27895911
11/27/77	$31,670,852	$24,362,194	4.24%	102.00%	$992,024	0.03283776	0.08209441	4.10472062
5/29/78	$32,620,978	$25,093,060	3.00%	0.00%	$730,866	0.03188133	0.07970331	3.98516565
11/27/78	$33,550,676	$25,808,212	2.85%	95.00%	$715,152	0.03099789	0.07749471	3.87473568
5/29/79	$34,459,060	$26,506,969	2.71%	95.00%	$698,757	0.03018074	0.07545185	3.77259273
11/27/79	$35,345,390	$27,188,762	2.57%	95.00%	$681,792	0.02942392	0.07355980	3.67799023
5/28/80	$36,759,206	$28,276,312	4.00%	0.00%	$1,087,550	0.02829223	0.07073058	3.53652906
11/27/80	$38,258,981	$29,429,986	4.08%	102.00%	$1,153,674	0.02718316	0.06795790	3.39789495
5/28/81	$39,851,167	$30,654,744	4.16%	102.00%	$1,224,758	0.02609710	0.06524276	3.26213782
11/27/81	$41,542,782	$31,955,986	4.24%	102.00%	$1,301,242	0.02503443	0.06258608	3.12930412
5/28/82	$42,789,066	$32,914,666	3.00%	0.00%	$958,680	0.02430527	0.06076319	3.03815934
11/27/82	$44,008,554	$33,852,734	2.85%	95.00%	$938,068	0.02363177	0.05907942	2.95397116
5/29/83	$45,200,086	$34,769,297	2.71%	95.00%	$916,563	0.02300881	0.05752201	2.87610073
11/27/83	$46,362,689	$35,663,607	2.57%	95.00%	$894,310	0.02243183	0.05607958	2.80397889
5/28/84	$48,217,196	$37,090,151	4.00%	0.00%	$1,426,544	0.02156907	0.05392267	2.69613355
11/26/84	$50,184,458	$38,603,429	4.08%	102.00%	$1,513,278	0.02072355	0.05180887	2.59044346
5/28/85	$52,272,934	$40,209,949	4.16%	102.00%	$1,606,520	0.01989557	0.04973893	2.48694668
11/27/85	$54,491,832	$41,916,794	4.24%	102.00%	$1,706,845	0.01908543	0.04771357	2.38567863
5/28/86	$56,126,587	$43,174,298	3.00%	0.00%	$1,257,504	0.01852954	0.04632386	2.31619285
11/27/86	$57,726,195	$44,404,765	2.85%	95.00%	$1,230,467	0.01801608	0.04504021	2.25201055
5/28/87	$59,289,132	$45,607,024	2.71%	95.00%	$1,202,259	0.01754116	0.04385289	2.19264469
11/27/87	$60,814,122	$46,780,094	2.57%	95.00%	$1,173,070	0.01710129	0.04275323	2.13766137
5/28/88	$63,246,687	$48,651,298	4.00%	0.00%	$1,871,204	0.01644355	0.04110887	2.05544363
11/26/88	$65,827,152	$50,636,271	4.08%	102.00%	$1,984,973	0.01579895	0.03949738	1.97486897
5/28/89	$68,566,615	$52,743,550	4.16%	102.00%	$2,107,279	0.01516773	0.03791933	1.89596643
11/26/89	$71,477,152	$54,982,425	4.24%	102.00%	$2,238,875	0.01455010	0.03637526	1.81876300
5/28/90	$73,621,467	$56,631,898	3.00%	0.00%	$1,649,473	0.01412631	0.03531579	1.76578932
11/27/90	$75,719,679	$58,245,907	2.85%	95.00%	$1,614,009	0.01373487	0.03433718	1.71685884

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[JayJuanGee]

[...]
If you don't mind, let's update that information from 2010 to 2157 so that the similarly generated data is all contained within one table... so this is the raw data that I have in my Excel spreadsheet for the actual facts from December 2010 to May 2025, and the projected out data from November 2025 to May 2157.  
[...]
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Alright. I tried some tricks, but still could not make the forum accept the entire table. So I started chopping off years, in 5-year chunks, as per your suggestion. I was able to go up to year 2090. That's quite a limitation, as the entire table is not that large... I guess SMF 1.1.19 (2006-2009) doesn't like big posts (as the Bitcoin White Paper doesn't like big blocks). LOL!
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That looks nice, and sure it would be nice to go up to 2157, yet there is still a lot of likely to be more relevant information that is in the period up until 2090... within 65 years from now.. and still that is so far into the future up until 2090 that there seem to be a lot of variables that are likely to affect the projections.

Furthermore, I might need to spend a little bit of time attempting to explain some of the columns to the extent that any of the columns are not either self-evident and/or already explained within some of my previous posts.  It is nice to have a reader-friendly version of this going from 2010 to 2090.. so thanks for that.

Just as a quickie.. the 10% FU status represents $800k valuation at the 200-WMA, and so how many coins are needed to be at that quantity of wealth and therefore able to withdraw at that rate, from my point of view.. which would be withdrawing at $80k per year.

The 4% FU status represents $2 million in valuation at the 200-WMA, and traditionally it has been though that withdrawing at 4% per year.. still accomplishing $80k if sticking to a 4% withdrawal rate.. which I consider to be way too conservative.  

I threw in $100 million for filthy rich for this particular chart, since some members likely want to consider aspiring to filthy rich status or maybe admiring folks who have reached that level of wealth.. Of course, with my updated way of thinking about matters, I do consider that filthy rich could withdraw up to 10% or $10million per year in a sustainable way.. which means forever and ever... and sure, if they want their wealth to continue to grow then they could choose to withdraw at a lower rate.

Even though within the table, I have projected the BTC spot price as being 30% higher than the 200-WMA, many of us recognize that historically the BTC spot price has been all over the place, yet it has tended to be quite a bit higher than the 200-WMA in bull years, even by decently large amounts, and even right now, as I type this post, current BTC prices are right around 125% higher than the 200-WMA.  During bear years the 200-WMA had not tended to be below the 200-WMA, yet it has frequently touched on the 200-WMA, yet even from June 2022 until October 2023, bitcoin spent a very long amount of time at or below the 200-WMA, and it even got as low at 35% below the 200-WMA, so even though that is unusual (and even some of that shows in the table), the 200-WMA continued to move up at least right around 20% per year even in the lowest of times.. and it might have had slipped slightly below 20% per year, even though the table only approximately captures the lowest periods of 200-WMA growth between June 2022 and October 2023.

One of the main questions that this table can help to answer might be how many coins we might need in the future to reach certain levels of wealth that we believe would be enough to live off of at our current projection of where we want to be in regards to our standard of living, which I consider to also be helpful in looking at sustainable withdrawal projections that currently I would consider 15.725 as the threshold level to start to be able to live forever off of $80k per year and presuming a 7% per year increase in the dollar amount withdrawn from the BTC, yet there can be some devil in the details regarding how any guy should engage in such withdrawals, which it seems helpful to have some cushion level, even though I personally have confidence that a guy could start with the threshold level and sustain himself in perpetuity at $80k per year..

[philipma1957]

you know.

103k in dec 2024

114k in august 2025

with a low of 74k and a high of 123k is quite remarkable

need to look back at the dec 100k numbers just a bit more.

the high for dec 2024 was 108k

[JayJuanGee]

you know.
103k in dec 2024

114k in august 2025
with a low of 74k and a high of 123k is quite remarkable

need to look back at the dec 100k numbers just a bit more.
the high for dec 2024 was 108k

For some reason, you find those numbers remarkable, even though in bitcoin terms we are largely talking about flat.. .. some time with bitcoin up and a bit of a recovery, yet the numbers are not really that amazing when it comes to bitcoin, even though surely longer term bitcoiners should not be complaining about such numbers, even though I am pretty sure that a lot of longer term bitcoiners are chomping at the bits for a seeming likelihood of more UPpity in the near-term future.

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