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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

Important correction: BC side should be "something.to.love",  not "someone.to.love".
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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

Important correction: BC side should be "something.to.love",  not "someone.to.love".

Well he got it correct as I have someone.to.love my wife.
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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

Important correction: BC side should be "something.to.love",  not "someone.to.love".

Well he got it correct as I have someone.to.love my wife.

For you, yes, but it's not what George Washington said...
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I console myself by saying the physical work replaces the pushup routine for the time being.
Since the greenhouse is hot as hell taking out 500-600 pound is working in a sauna.

This morning after I eat breakfast I will drive to the scalper and pick up some cash.
price is still $1.15 a pound




Hahahahaha

Holy fucking shit Phil!!!!

If it makes you feel good to be engaging in that level of work in regards to the physically tangible and in touch with the world kinds of activities, then so be it.

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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

This is the kind of post I referred to the other day.
Thank you, WO.

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Geniality on full display...  Shocked

You have likely worn out your welcome, even when several members have tried to help you out on numerous occasions, and you have abused any possibility of being received with “geniality” or warmth.

Furthermore, your ongoing prodding (including your recent stirring of the pot with the boldenings (and unnecessary shouting, with large text) begs for some kinds of a tag, perhaps a red one?

It seems to me that you have surpassed three strikes, already.

Not that I count on this, but Oracle's example made me thinking; what is the probability of a 40% one day spike in btc upon, for example, an announcement that US already bought, say 200K additional bitcoins?

Imho, not zero, so maybe a small amount invested in out of the money MSTR (or even IBIT) calls dated, say, January, or even a bit later make sense.

I don't have any problem in regards to placing some kind of a possibility that BTC spikes 40% in a day or some other short-term spike that plays out for 1 to 3 weeks or even longer.

We already know dee cornz behaves like that on a fairly regular basis, so the exact specifics regarding which piece (or pieces of news or hype) need not be important.

Many of us already are overly weighted long in regards to bitcoin and/or have been stacking bitcoin - or already had stacked bitcoin years back as a kind of front running out of realization that these kinds of matters could play out. So you are really proposing anything outlandish in the eyes of guys who had been studying the cornz.

I don't dabble in various financial instruments to leverage those kinds of plays, since they likely cost some money to keep open, so I am not sure if they are key to getting richie on bitcoin since bitcoin has already given and likely to continue to give richie and more richie than expected, even without playing around with extra instruments (and no need to bet anything other than keeping an ongoing relatively aggressive allocation in dee cornz). .which can also be known as just letting your winners ride (namely bitcoin) without ever really cashing out of it (except in small doses as many of us already ongoingly practice some version of the shaving off of slivers from time to time).

Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  
you thinking that such a prediction could be accurate amazes me actually...

He's retarded in his ongoing self-absorption. Puts wannabe sorcery on another plain.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  
I respect your ddiscipline and enthusiasm.......Whether it is today or in December you decide to sell, what matters is that you have prepared yourself ahead of time. In the end, Bitcoin as we know always has the habit of rewarding patience and a good strategy over unnecessary impulse

Bitcoin does not necessarily reward those who sell with expectations of buying back cheaper.

So there is that angle, too.

In other words, I doubt that viewing bitcoin as a trade (even to try to play the presumptive BIGGER price waves) is a smart way of treating one of the best (if not the best?) of assets that any of us have ever witnessed in our lifetime and such same paradigm-shifting asset is available to everyone and/or anyone around the world... but some guys want to act like they are so smart as to be able to trade it.  It might be more sad than it is funny in a kind of ironic way.

I've read an interesting piece about a possible "up before down" gesture. Time horizon: up to the 1st or 2week of October. It makes sense to me.
https://www.newsbtc.com/bitcoin-news/bitcoin-short-squeeze-long-trap-october/

If she follows liquidity (as she does more often than not), the juiciest path is to eat the high shorts first (up, right now), and go for the late longs as a dessert after that. I emphasize "late longs", straying into gambling: heavy and high. It's not like the whales, whoever that might be, can necessarily push the number below 0.080 - but if 0.095 means annihilation, even on a wick, that's too much leverage at too high a price. Keep it safe.
(Numbers are in M$ because reasons. Basically, it's quite cool IMO.

Sounds too bearish to me, even though Up before down is fun.. I just don't like the down part that is being contemplated in the package, as if it were to be necessary.  

But, what do I know?

I kind of like the up before more up version.... but whatever, I will go with the flow whether it is up before down, or up before up or even down before up or down before down.. .. even though the up versions still seem to be in the cards, even though a bunch of bitcoin geeks are likely to get rich as fuck from such price move, yet at the same time, there is likely way more pain to be felt by 99% of the world's population who choose (wittingly or unwittingly) to remain no coiners or low coiners.

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tariffs raised the scrap price so I have to thank orange man bigly.

A stroke of luck to save your ass (#nohomo) from a less than ideal investment (especially when dee cornz was a competing option).

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What’s amazing to me is that this will be the fourth time it’s happened.
Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.
https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”
I think we go higher, but looking back there will be a lot of people who wish they had started taking profits here instead of trying to time the top, which we will definitely hit in the next 100 days if we haven’t already.
EDIT: May i as well ask how?
Men lie. Women lie. The four year cycle doesn’t.

Referring to the Pompliano interview that you linked, gotta question your judgement  (not that it is the first time) when you are getting investment (really trading) advice from bear-tards - even if they sound smart on the surface. You are just likely to follow (or believe) the same things that you hear from others.

But, hey, whatever.  You might end up being correct.. perhaps?
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  "The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for."
 
~George Washington Burnap, [The sphere and duties of woman : a course of lectures]

  I translated this into geometric form - "The Triangle of Happiness"
  This one approximates philipma1957's triangle.

 

The idea of a right-angled “triangle of happiness” is great. It seems to imply that our lives also move forward with three corners: work, love, and hope. These are three important like directions, wherever we turn our eyes, their imprint is there.

If we look at history then we can see that whether it is a great creation or a difficult struggle these three corners of the triangle have worked in the background of our life. Love does not run straight like a curved line of geometry, sometimes high, sometimes low; yet within it lies the continuous beauty of illusion.

Life is also full of ups/downs. We learn to maintain balance as we walk the curved path of rules and regulations. When viewed from a distance, the “triangle of happiness” seems like an engraving on the wall of an ancient temple that has survived time, and is silently teaching: many things are beautifully maintained in the triangular shape.

Finally, this is not just a philosophy point, it is a map of the human heart.  Each line tells a story of emotion and the three angles together show what you do in life, who you love, and what you hope for. The path becomes clear.

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Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  

you thinking that such a prediction could be accurate amazes me actually...

What’s amazing to me is that this will be the fourth time it’s happened.

Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.

https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”

I think we go higher, but looking back there will be a lot of people who wish they had started taking profits here instead of trying to time the top, which we will definitely hit in the next 100 days if we haven’t already.


Thanks for the video. Watched it in full.

I think that guy has a lot of valid points but it doesn't seem that he gets the difference between crypto and Bitcoin. He also sees Bitcoin as a risk asset and gold as the safe haven.

The talk about a new form of world trade currency that is on "a Blockchain" sounds to me that that will likely be Bitcoin.

If all what he says happens, Bitcoin is likely to come out as the new world trade currency / reserve currency, which means we will be in the millions per coin.

Selling BTC at a cycle top bigly is really nice but that's only half of the gamble. if you don't get back onto the train again at the right time, you can easily lose the (generational) opportunity of your lifetime.

I think none of his arguments destroy the value proposition of Bitcoin.
If you successfully trade the cycles, great! But that's not a safe strategy for everyone. I think that would be hodling...

 

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Thanks for the video. Watched it in full.

I think that guy has a lot of valid points but it doesn't seem that he gets the difference between crypto and Bitcoin. He also sees Bitcoin as a risk asset and gold as the safe haven.

The talk about a new form of world trade currency that is on "a Blockchain" sounds to me that that will likely be Bitcoin.

If all what he says happens, Bitcoin is likely to come out as the new world trade currency / reserve currency, which means we will be in the millions per coin.

Selling BTC at a cycle top bigly is really nice but that's only half of the gamble. if you don't get back onto the train again at the right time, you can easily lose the (generational) opportunity of your lifetime.

I think none of his arguments destroy the value proposition of Bitcoin.
If you successfully trade the cycles, great! But that's not a safe strategy for everyone. I think that would be hodling...
 

You won't do anything wrong by just hodling. Everything else is speculation, which relies on the past (cycles) but don't necessarily print the future.
Also, as you said, Bitcoin is different. Shitcoins are bought to be sold (for BTC?) later, while one might keep most of his Bitcoin if he/she doesn't need the money, to avoid the mistakes you mentioned.
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Also, as you said, Bitcoin is different. Shitcoins are bought to be sold (for BTC?) later, while one might keep most of his Bitcoin if he/she doesn't need the money, to avoid the mistakes you mentioned.

People sell Shitcoin only when it gets a push from it. This is not the situation from Bitcoin in contrast. I always keep 50% of my income for Bitcoin.

I think this is your best record at this time.



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Also, as you said, Bitcoin is different. Shitcoins are bought to be sold (for BTC?) later, while one might keep most of his Bitcoin if he/she doesn't need the money, to avoid the mistakes you mentioned.

People sell Shitcoin only when it gets a push from it. This is not the situation from Bitcoin in contrast. I always keep 50% of my income for Bitcoin.

Shitcoins are pure gambling and if you are not smart enough, your investment could be gone.

You might be going to take profit after a little push and boom!...you see rug pull.

Only if you have master the art...few times profits might amaze you but no guarantee of you earning continually from Shitcoins.

Putting your money in other investments can be profitable with little guarantee if you can hold but not shitcoins. Thank again!
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A long long time without posting here in the wall oberserver which this months is really a obersving wall, nothing is happening at all we are at a super calm for what? 2/3 months?

I was not expecting this sudden stop on out rally. Come on guys put the engines of pump to work again, i want to see BTC on 200 k before the year ends, and at this pace is gonna be impossible.
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Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  

you thinking that such a prediction could be accurate amazes me actually...

What’s amazing to me is that this will be the fourth time it’s happened.

Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.

https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”

I think we go higher, but looking back there will be a lot of people who wish they had started taking profits here instead of trying to time the top, which we will definitely hit in the next 100 days if we haven’t already.


Thanks for the video. Watched it in full.

I think that guy has a lot of valid points but it doesn't seem that he gets the difference between crypto and Bitcoin. He also sees Bitcoin as a risk asset and gold as the safe haven.

The talk about a new form of world trade currency that is on "a Blockchain" sounds to me that that will likely be Bitcoin.

If all what he says happens, Bitcoin is likely to come out as the new world trade currency / reserve currency, which means we will be in the millions per coin.

Selling BTC at a cycle top bigly is really nice but that's only half of the gamble. if you don't get back onto the train again at the right time, you can easily lose the (generational) opportunity of your lifetime.

I think none of his arguments destroy the value proposition of Bitcoin.
If you successfully trade the cycles, great! But that's not a safe strategy for everyone. I think that would be hodling...

 



World Reserve Currency will be the currency, that underpins AI to AI transactions!

It takes great strength and conviction, to see the cycle before us, let alone a cycle at all!

I personally believe we are on the last leg of this cycle and as stated before, I will be transferring some wealth in return for hard/illiquid assets, obviously fiat first...

Guarantee you one thing, the next 3 months, will be a wild ride!

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