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[LoyceV]

Current business cycle is taking longer to play out which means the BTC top will also take longer to unfold.
Thats why the 30 bull indicators hasn't flashed yet.


X.

The only reason to have a 4 year cycle, is halvings. The "power" of halvings is quite literally cut in half every 4 years, which means sooner or later the 4 year cycle loses it's foundation. That makes it at best a self-fulfilling prophecy at that point: just because many people expect it to happen, it happens. Until it doesn't.

[Zeunerts]

bruh

the marbling is supposed to be on a steak, not the countertop

Steak will have to wait. Back to noodles.

[BTCETFInvestor]

Current business cycle is taking longer to play out which means the BTC top will also take longer to unfold.
Thats why the 30 bull indicators hasn't flashed yet.


X.

Macroeconomics is what controls Bitcoin more than most people think. 

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
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[Abelly]

I've found the hats gallery on one of the backup hard drives… It's been years, but in my opinion, it still looks spectacular.
This is the last update I made a few years ago.

Would you like us to continue updating the WO Hats Gallery?



Full size: https://i.ibb.co/Z6KxkPs3/h2025.png

#StrongHats

Wow, the thing is really beautiful, the gallery looks great even after all these years,
But, yes, definitely keep updating, I'm excited to see the new design!

[philipma1957]

Here are the predictions for the next 5 years (2026 thru 2030) in one post:

It seems the "experts" don't expect a bear market anymore. So one might ask himself, what kind of experts they are.

the last bear for Wall Street was 2008 17 years ago dropping from 13043 to  8776


So many think that bear crash gave birth to BTC

BTC has had rapid 4 year cycles


So we hit a quicker high and the 4 year delivers are trying to force a quicker low to keep the 4 year belief intact.

I am still stacking via mining about 95 dollars a day or  0.00092 btc a day

we are at the all-time low for mining earning 4 cents a th

so the s21xp makes $0.04 x 270= $10.80 pre power cost

Lets see if stackers can ride this out  its sad that 4 year cyclers choose to believe in such a short time frame for BTC


oh Joe Biden left the office with BTC at 108k

and we are 100k

Just saying Trump has sucked bigly so far.

The reason is he made BTC a MAGA thing  right wing  thus losing 45-50% of the buyers  as they see anti BTC as anti MAGA .


We do not need half the country to be anti BTC

or Half the World to be anti BTC for that matter.

[BTCETFInvestor]

Here are the predictions for the next 5 years (2026 thru 2030) in one post:

It seems the "experts" don't expect a bear market anymore. So one might ask himself, what kind of experts they are.

the last bear for Wall Street was 2008 17 years ago dropping from 13043 to  8776


So many think that bear crash gave birth to BTC

BTC has had rapid 4 year cycles


So we hit a quicker high and the 4 year delivers are trying to force a quicker low to keep the 4 year belief intact.

I am still stacking via mining about 95 dollars a day or  0.00092 btc a day

we are at the all-time low for mining earning 4 cents a th

so the s21xp makes $0.04 x 270= $10.80 pre power cost

Lets see if stackers can ride this out  its sad that 4 year cyclers choose to believe in such a short time frame for BTC


oh Joe Biden left the office with BTC at 108k

and we are 100k

Just saying Trump has sucked bigly so far.

The reason is he made BTC a MAGA thing  right wing  thus losing 45-50% of the buyers  as they see anti BTC as anti MAGA .


We do not need half the country to be anti BTC

or Half the World to be anti BTC for that matter.

Phil - I totally disagree with your view that Trump has been negative for BTC. I think your New England blue state, radical left-wing liberal, Dimocratic progressive socialist opinion has clouded your perspective.

I think it's the exact opposite - with President Trump and his entire administration which of course includes Scott Bessent, Secretary of the United States Treasury, and most all Republicans are advocating to invest in Bitcoin and are the ones pushing for the U.S. government to buy Bitcoin for 'The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve'.    

[cAPSLOCK]

I've found the hats gallery on one of the backup hard drives… It's been years, but in my opinion, it still looks spectacular.
This is the last update I made a few years ago.

Would you like us to continue updating the WO Hats Gallery?



Full size: https://i.ibb.co/Z6KxkPs3/h2025.png

#StrongHats

First of all welcome back!

And second. YES!  I was just about to put mine back on as my avatar too.

[BitHodlers]

Just saying Trump has sucked bigly so far.

The reason is he made BTC a MAGA thing  right wing  thus losing 45-50% of the buyers  as they see anti BTC as anti MAGA .

We do not need half the country to be anti BTC

or Half the World to be anti BTC for that matter.

The people who think like this don't deserve Bitcoin and Bitcoin does not need them. Everyone will buy at the price that they deserve. He's talking about the stock market all the time, but the stock market can't be made a MAGA thing. Right, it is just BTC... FUD views again.

Current business cycle is taking longer to play out which means the BTC top will also take longer to unfold.
Thats why the 30 bull indicators hasn't flashed yet.


X.

The only reason to have a 4 year cycle, is halvings. The "power" of halvings is quite literally cut in half every 4 years, which means sooner or later the 4 year cycle loses it's foundation. That makes it at best a self-fulfilling prophecy at that point: just because many people expect it to happen, it happens. Until it doesn't.

Finally two voices of sanity. Where have you guys been? We need you more in here. Too much panicking by others disguised as legitimate analysis.  

[El duderino_]

now at $99k.

HOLD!

Clearly not from around here

[Richy_T]

oh Joe Biden left the office with BTC at 108k

and we are 100k

Interesting. Closer to the time, you were willing to begrudgingly admit that most of that price was attained mostly on the event of Trump winning the November election and in anticipation of his entering office something over two months later but you appear to have gaslit yourself that it was all only due to the stellar achievements of the gentleman (who took inflation to levels not seen since the 70s) far into geriatric decline and also that the recent $125k ATH never happened.

It's true that Trump hasn't done a huge amount for Bitcoin. Those who have been paying attention suspected there was a lot of pandering going on (and you're certainly old enough to have seen that from innumerable politicians through many election cycles). Even still, it's still astounding even after 9 years how far TDS will take people.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com

[OutOfMemory]

I've found the hats gallery on one of the backup hard drives… It's been years, but in my opinion, it still looks spectacular.
This is the last update I made a few years ago.

Would you like us to continue updating the WO Hats Gallery?

Ah, now i remember you! Welcome back 
When i saw your nickname here the other day i couldn't by all means.
Thanks for digging out the gallery, i guess you lost it because of imgur's turnaway?

I'll make a backup copy. Note that somewhere, because i probably won't remember i have one, next time.

EDIT: Done. There are quite some names in this gallery that didn't show up in a while here...

[philipma1957]

oh Joe Biden left the office with BTC at 108k

and we are 100k

Interesting. Closer to the time, you were willing to begrudgingly admit that most of that price was attained mostly on the event of Trump winning the November election and in anticipation of his entering office something over two months later but you appear to have gaslit yourself that it was all only due to the stellar achievements of the gentleman (who took inflation to levels not seen since the 70s) far into geriatric decline and also that the recent $125k ATH never happened.

It's true that Trump hasn't done a huge amount for Bitcoin. Those who have been paying attention suspected there was a lot of pandering going on (and you're certainly old enough to have seen that from innumerable politicians through many election cycles). Even still, it's still astounding even after 9 years how far TDS will take people.

I find it hard to explain myself at times.

Joe Biden sucked
Donald Trump sucks
Obama was a Push
Baby Bush was terrible.
Clinton was the best or second best on this list.
Old man Bush was meh
Reagan was the best or second best on this list.
Carter was so bad but I know things about him that most do not know
Ford was a place holder
Nixon set the USA down the road to its record 37 trillion debt
Johnson was deceived and hurt the country by fighting the war on poverty and the vietnam war.
Kennedy was stupid and got himself killed.


Back to btc Trump is a polarizing force. So you get two  views points on BTC.

it is great it is bad.


and Trump has wrapped himself in crypto which is not helpful.

Mark my words he is making a lot of people hating BTC. because people hate him.


Myself I am a purple voter some left and some right.

Phil - I totally disagree with your view that Trump has been negative for BTC. I think your New England blue state, radical left-wing liberal progressive socialist opinion has clouded your perspective. I think it's the exact opposite - with President Trump and his entire administration, and many Republicans advocating to invest in Bitcoin and actually being the ones pushing for the U.S. government to buy Bitcoin for 'The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve'.    

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on Today at 09:30:58 AM



Trump gets far too many people to believe that quote.

Thus getting large groups of people to attack the things he promotes ie BTC

That is all I am trying to say.

as for living in a liberal state. I live in Monmouth county it is republican. I have voted for my Republican congressman Chris Smith since 1992 and he has won each and every election.

[OutOfMemory]

Verdict: Whenever politics address a certain topic/area, you can be sure that the outcome will be bad.
Good things are good as long they go unnoticed by politicians.

[BTCETFInvestor]

oh Joe Biden left the office with BTC at 108k

and we are 100k

Interesting. Closer to the time, you were willing to begrudgingly admit that most of that price was attained mostly on the event of Trump winning the November election and in anticipation of his entering office something over two months later but you appear to have gaslit yourself that it was all only due to the stellar achievements of the gentleman (who took inflation to levels not seen since the 70s) far into geriatric decline and also that the recent $125k ATH never happened.

It's true that Trump hasn't done a huge amount for Bitcoin. Those who have been paying attention suspected there was a lot of pandering going on (and you're certainly old enough to have seen that from innumerable politicians through many election cycles). Even still, it's still astounding even after 9 years how far TDS will take people.

I find it hard to explain myself at times.

Joe Biden sucked
Donald Trump sucks
Obama was a Push
Baby Bush was terrible.
Clinton was the best or second best on this list.
Old man Bush was meh
Reagan was the best or second best on this list.
Carter was so bad but I know things about him that most do not know
Ford was a place holder
Nixon set the USA down the road to its record 37 trillion debt
Johnson was deceived and hurt the country by fighting the war on poverty and the vietnam war.
Kennedy was stupid and got himself killed.


Back to btc Trump is a polarizing force. So you get two  views points on BTC.

it is great it is bad.


and Trump has wrapped himself in crypto which is not helpful.

Mark my words he is making a lot of people hating BTC. because people hate him.


Myself I am a purple voter some left and some right.

Phil - I totally disagree with your view that Trump has been negative for BTC. I think your New England blue state, radical left-wing liberal progressive socialist opinion has clouded your perspective. I think it's the exact opposite - with President Trump and his entire administration, and many Republicans advocating to invest in Bitcoin and actually being the ones pushing for the U.S. government to buy Bitcoin for 'The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve'.    

Quote from: BTCETFInvestor on Today at 09:30:58 AM



Trump gets far too many people to believe that quote.

Thus getting large groups of people to attack the things he promotes ie BTC

That is all I am trying to say.

as for living in a liberal state. I live in Monmouth county it is republican. I have voted for my Republican congressman Chris Smith since 1992 and he has won each and every election.

Phil - Enjoy your new far leftwing governor, Mikie Sherrill. I'm sure she'll snuggle-up quickly to the socialist, communist mayor of NYC that has never had a job and will destroy it with his empty promises and extreme hate for Wall Street, law enforcement and Jews. FREE EVERTHING! What a fucking joke! I look for many up your way to leave, headed to Florida and Texas.   

[ChartBuddy]

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[asUHWEceyc]

Low volume 105 weekend recovery loading...




Then we'll see bout narrative fitting tariff constitutionality and gubmint opening [or further dumpity]

[vapourminer]

Verdict: Whenever politics address a certain topic/area, you can be sure that the outcome will be bad.
Good things are good as long they go unnoticed by politicians.

or jim cramer

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com