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I've found the hats gallery on one of the backup hard drives… It's been years, but in my opinion, it still looks spectacular.
This is the last update I made a few years ago.

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Full size: https://i.ibb.co/Z6KxkPs3/h2025.png

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I like the time/date a person got on Bitcointalk.


Now, make the chart by date so I look 'cooler' Smiley (kidding) Smiley

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Regarding the steak discussion (wagyu etc).

I grew up on a ranch in the northern parts of Sweden. The land was full of moose and my dad liked to hunt, so we had more or less unlimited access to game meat during my childhood.

I guess I'm biased, but to me, nothing beats a medium rare moose steak.

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Verdict: Whenever politics address a certain topic/area, you can be sure that the outcome will be bad.
Good things are good as long they go unnoticed by politicians.


Yes. If there's one thing that's inevitable, it's that we're going to cross paths with some serious politics at some point or other. No telling which 'side' either as all politicians benefit from running the country on funny money. Unfortunately, I'm not as young and ready for the battle as I was 12 years ago.

Politics will stay a mess till the unlimited money goes away in politics, Citizen's United Supreme Court case.

Been what 15 years or more of such above. Thus the person with the most $$$ in the Primary wins. Thus the more corrupt to $$$ in politics wins.

This 'accelerates' over time to the worst of the worst and in the politics for 'themselves' and not actually to 'accomplish' anything of note are the ones

destined to win the Primary, in that the more they 'bow' to vested interests, the more likely this outcome and distills to the most self centered over time.

You can see this in play now. You have a shutdown which hurts your constituents. If you are the party in power IF you go against the Executive Branch

you lose your Primary...never to darken the door of your particular brand of  Politics again (last three such house Republican speakers who tried to get

bills passed with a mix of both parties on such bills)

IF you follow the Executive and you are giving up Congressional Authority to do so you are golden.You only care about yourself and your re-election.

IF however you 'buck' the executive and 'lose' your primary, no

cushy Ambassadorship, or being a pundit on TV News afterwards. You are branded a tratior and all the $$ you need to get re-elected goes poof from

the vested elite...*see examples of moderates forced out of Congress*

If you "lose' to the Opposition however you are still 'golden' you fought the good fight and lost..but you were loyal to the whatever supposed cause (IMHO $$$)

Also as with most such things with power you can 'only' fall upwards on such you will be fine.

So the 'worst' thing for graft/power/self-interest is to 'lose' your Primary. Even if the USA
 
burns as a result. Parties no longer can threaten withholding $$$ to get people to vote in a certain way. As local politics with unlimited $$$ can be one

without local $$$.

I am discouraged on a way out of this cycle of $$$ in politics today and now to get out of such.

Note: There are a 'lot' of p/o'd moderate Republicans and fiscally conservative Republicans that WILL run in the Primaries of the party in 2026. No Democrat

will win in the South, but again, from the noise a lot of moderate republicans will challenge in the primary. So the catch is 1) will this work and maybe get

something done in Congress on bills as such? or 2) Will they be overwhelmed by the massive $$$ keeping incumbents in place and 'lose' the Primary....by 'vested'

interests in the status quo. I'm pretty Liberal, but I can say with certainty that IF moderate (sane) republicans don't get back into Congress the above will

continue to 'distill' worse and worse people winning primaries and maybe elections over and over again...and constituents concerns or the party in question will

have no sway in a congress running amuck like a herd of cats, responsible only to $$ they can make and power they can keep. Sad

Sorry i don't have a lot of faith the current Supreme Court will change Citizen's United and Unlimited $$ directly to Politicians. It will likely get even more harsh

and gridlocked.


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If you wonder if spot Bitcoin ETFs are important for Bitcoin, consider what propelled the price of BTC up - Spot BTC ETFs had $240M inflows!
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Here are the predictions for the next 5 years (2026 thru 2030) in one post:



*img]https://i.ibb.co/ychRcnYW/BTC-Prediction-2027.png[/img]

*img]https://i.ibb.co/0VKntDC8/BTC-Prediction-2028.png[/img]

*img]https://i.ibb.co/v48gQdX7/BTC-Prediction-2029.png[/img]

*img]https://i.ibb.co/svP4SyLL/BTC-Prediction-2030.png[/img]


Reference: https://changelly.com/blog/bitcoin-price-prediction/


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.....@d_eddie - You'll have to read all about the predictions here: https://changelly.com/blog/bitcoin-price-prediction/

The Bitcoin Price Predictions are by these five experts:
Anthony Scaramucci of SkyBridge Capital
Michael Saylor of MicroStrategy

Marshall Beard, CEO of Gemini Exchange and shared by Tom Lee of Fundstrat Global Advisors.
Cathie Wood of Ark Invest
Tom Lee has a tendency to absurdity when it comes to bitcoin price prediction.  This would skew all numbers into the realm of the unbelievability for me. 

Tom Lee has quite a bit of credibility in various financial circles including a bit of a wow factor that he recently started pumping the Ethereum fund, so who knows if he will end up continuing to soar through that recent pumpening or if he is going to be able to move out of that crap (aka Ethereum) without getting overly damaged financially and/or to his reputation.

Otherwise there is nothing wrong with bullish predictions.. perhaps all of those folks are incentivized to be bullish, so it is a bit strange to be assigning too much credibility and/or neutrality to folks (companies) that have various bitcoin related funds, and they are predicting high prices for bitcoin in the coming months/years...

It is difficult to proclaim that they are going to be wrong, since they are saying things that many of us expect too, even though they seem to not be limited by the cycle as some guys around these here parts seem to limit their own imaginations (is that what it is called) out of concern that bitcoin has to perform within a schedule and/or a pattern, and such schedule and/or pattern has already had its chance to play out, so in that regard, a pump this year seems like a long shot, maybe less than 25% odds or something like that... and for myself, if I am going to continue to believe that we have not yet been knocked out of our current bull market, then I have to at least give 50.01% odds that the top is not yet in which means that we are going to get at least the current ATH (which happens to be $126,272) + $1 (which would be $126,273) by this calendar year, or perhaps by the 1st quarter of 2026.. or maybe it drags out until after the 1st quarter of 2026, which does not mean we fell out of the bull market, even though I would end up losing my bet with LFC if this bad boi were to wait until after the 1st quarter of 2026.

There is currently a lot of negative sentiment though and it's nice to see some hopium.  Hodling.

Sentiment? 

That is a wishy-washy kind of an indicator.   Shocked Shocked

You could not be a true bitcoiner WO insider (aka OG) if you subscribe to sentiment, as if it were anything beyond something to laugh at.

Current business cycle is taking longer to play out which means the BTC top will also take longer to unfold.
Thats why the 30 bull indicators hasn't flashed yet.

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Macroeconomics is what controls Bitcoin more than most people think. 

Newbie Bitcoin spot ETF investor who happens to believe that bitcoin spot ETFs are better than the real bitcoin, and also happens to be a bitcoin price dynamic's expert coming into the space to inform us less knowledgable folks with his pithy lecture that bitcoin is "correlated" to macro.

Who would-a-thunk?

You think that we haven't heard that nonsense previously like more than 10,000 times..   
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Newbie Bitcoin spot ETF investor who happens to believe that bitcoin spot ETFs are better than the real bitcoin, and also happens to be a bitcoin price dynamic's expert coming into the space to inform us less knowledgable folks with his pithy lecture that bitcoin is "correlated" to macro.

Who would-a-thunk?

You think that we haven't heard that nonsense previously like more than 10,000 times..  

Quit lying you scumbag asshole! I've never said spot Bitcoin ETFs are better than real bitcoin. You're a worthless piece of shit thug, JJG.  

Why anybody puts up with your stupid comments and the crap you dish out I'll never understand...
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November 08, 2025, 01:34:09 AM

I've found the hats gallery on one of the backup hard drives… It's been years, but in my opinion, it still looks spectacular.
This is the last update I made a few years ago.

Would you like us to continue updating the WO Hats Gallery?





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Great idea!

Time to test how strong we can HODL here.

Oh my sweet summer child...
Not only do we HoDL but we also seem to have made a sport out of ridiculing those who do not.
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Newbie Bitcoin spot ETF investor who happens to believe that bitcoin spot ETFs are better than the real bitcoin, and also happens to be a bitcoin price dynamic's expert coming into the space to inform us less knowledgable folks with his pithy lecture that bitcoin is "correlated" to macro.

Who would-a-thunk?

You think that we haven't heard that nonsense previously like more than 10,000 times..  

Quite lying you scumbag asshole! I've never said spot Bitcoin ETFs are better than real bitcoin. You're a worthless piece of shit thug, JJG.  

Why anybody puts up with your stupid comments and the crap you dish out I'll never understand...
A bit rude, but I don't know why he misinterpreted it like this.  Huh You definitely did not say that spot Bitcoin ETFs are better than real Bitcoin, and they aren't no doubt about that.
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Newbie Bitcoin spot ETF investor who happens to believe that bitcoin spot ETFs are better than the real bitcoin, and also happens to be a bitcoin price dynamic's expert coming into the space to inform us less knowledgable folks with his pithy lecture that bitcoin is "correlated" to macro.

Who would-a-thunk?

You think that we haven't heard that nonsense previously like more than 10,000 times..  

Quit lying you scumbag asshole! I've never said spot Bitcoin ETFs are better than real bitcoin. You're a worthless piece of shit thug, JJG.  

Why anybody puts up with your stupid comments and the crap you dish out I'll never understand...
A bit rude, but I don't know why he misinterpreted it like this.  Huh You definitely did not say that spot Bitcoin ETFs are better than real Bitcoin, and they aren't no doubt about that.

@BitHodlers - Not rude enough for how the SOB has previously dogpiled on me. Somebody needs to knock his teeth out and shit down his throat... He's a fucking thug...

He doesn't have to act like that - but he chooses to because he's a scumbag thug.  Just wait, you'll learn how he is!

All the best to you...
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Trading opinion: i think some hedge funds shorting non-bitcoin tokens blew up because today was something interesting that you might have missed if you looked at just bitcoin...even just for amusement purposes..

Needless to say...this is not how bear market looks like..with all due respect to the cautious folks around here.

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