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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 705227 times)
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September 23, 2017, 08:42:38 PM
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that something off is not you dumb ass mron, that is not you fucking "off"
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September 23, 2017, 08:45:43 PM
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that something off is not you dumb ass moron, that is not you fucking "off"

EDIT 1: just stfu or fuck off lol
EDIT 2: you banks fan boy
EDIT 3: you motherfucker you how much money did you lose with your technical analysis stupido, don't be ashamed to tell others what a failed trader you trully are.
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September 23, 2017, 09:08:43 PM
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I have BCH on my Poloniex account, but they have frozen it for whatever reason, but I do now know why.

Anyone knows what to do?

Poloniex does not answer to my tickets for 2 weeks now.
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September 23, 2017, 09:55:06 PM
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Wow new website! ---->>>> https://www.bitcoincash.org

 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool to the moon!

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September 23, 2017, 10:13:49 PM
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Anyone got news about bitcoin hard fork in November, confirmation, another Bitcoin???
Much appreciated

It has all the makings of a perfect shit storm. Very weak replay protection implemented on both sides. If you thought claiming your bitcoin cash was complicated, if two distinct chains are established between Core and segwit2x, it's going to be real difficult to avoid replay unless you don't move coins at all.

Just to add to this if you do try to split ONLY move to another wallet you have the keys for DO NOT try to make your first transaction on ANY chain to an exchange or similar

So safest best is to wait maybe a few days-week after the hardfork for things to settle, and then move your coin to either an exchange or another bitcoin wallet???
Much appreciated again.
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September 23, 2017, 10:18:54 PM
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Anyone got news about bitcoin hard fork in November, confirmation, another Bitcoin???
Much appreciated

It has all the makings of a perfect shit storm. Very weak replay protection implemented on both sides. If you thought claiming your bitcoin cash was complicated, if two distinct chains are established between Core and segwit2x, it's going to be real difficult to avoid replay unless you don't move coins at all.

Just to add to this if you do try to split ONLY move to another wallet you have the keys for DO NOT try to make your first transaction on ANY chain to an exchange or similar

So safest best is to wait maybe a few days-week after the hardfork for things to settle, and then move your coin to either an exchange or another bitcoin wallet???
Much appreciated again.

I would get a Trezor and move all of your BTC to those private keys and wait for Slush to come up with an easy solution. (Just a personal preference though.)
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September 23, 2017, 10:30:24 PM
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Anyone got news about bitcoin hard fork in November, confirmation, another Bitcoin???
Much appreciated

It has all the makings of a perfect shit storm. Very weak replay protection implemented on both sides. If you thought claiming your bitcoin cash was complicated, if two distinct chains are established between Core and segwit2x, it's going to be real difficult to avoid replay unless you don't move coins at all.

Just to add to this if you do try to split ONLY move to another wallet you have the keys for DO NOT try to make your first transaction on ANY chain to an exchange or similar

So safest best is to wait maybe a few days-week after the hardfork for things to settle, and then move your coin to either an exchange or another bitcoin wallet???
Much appreciated again.

I would get a Trezor and move all of your BTC to those private keys and wait for Slush to come up with an easy solution. (Just a personal preference though.)

I second that get a trezor its the best HW wallet around IMHO (There is a link in my signature if you want to buy one from amazon)

And no you should move them to another address/wallet that you own first before moving to an exchange that way if the other chain does get replayed you will still have both coins

Once both chains are successfully confirmed as being on different addresses then you may transfer to an exchange if you want to sell
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September 23, 2017, 10:31:57 PM
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley

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September 23, 2017, 10:42:30 PM
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
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September 23, 2017, 10:48:20 PM
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^

Do we know the exact date of this fork? I will use Electrum, should work fine, yes?

Block 494,784 for hard fork . Should be late November. No exact date since it depends on how fast the blocks generate. November 23rdish, maybe?
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September 23, 2017, 10:55:39 PM
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
tbh, niether have i, i dont care about segwit1 , so def wont care about seg2 lol
its just from what i hear now and again, that no replay protection is bad and i got no idea who or why they are doing this...maybe they want to mess up btc txs.

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September 23, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
tbh, niether have i, i dont care about segwit1 , so def wont care about seg2 lol
its just from what i hear now and again, that no replay protection is bad and i got no idea who or why they are doing this...maybe they want to mess up btc txs.

Segwit2x doesn't want a schism. They want a total takeover. Core doesn't want to to concede either.
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September 23, 2017, 11:06:02 PM
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
tbh, niether have i, i dont care about segwit1 , so def wont care about seg2 lol
its just from what i hear now and again, that no replay protection is bad and i got no idea who or why they are doing this...maybe they want to mess up btc txs.

Its not that no replay protection is bad for either coin it does not impact the performance of either in any way the only issue is that if the S2X chain does take off and gain value then anyone pre fork can stand to loose money by sending both coins instead of just the one intended.

If the S2x chain just does a straight fork with no adjustment to the difficulty and there is no code implemented to make a rapid change to this then the S2x chain will need to gain a huge value at least rivalling the core chain just to attract miners in order survive unless it can be dual mined
 
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September 23, 2017, 11:08:18 PM
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
tbh, niether have i, i dont care about segwit1 , so def wont care about seg2 lol
its just from what i hear now and again, that no replay protection is bad and i got no idea who or why they are doing this...maybe they want to mess up btc txs.

Segwit2x doesn't want a schism. They want a total takeover. Core doesn't want to to concede either.
so both parties are fighting over a 2nd layer system that they can control....lol screw segwits.....

bitcoin cash for the win Cool

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September 24, 2017, 12:05:27 AM
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Why isn't Bitfinex listed in https://www.bitcoincash.org/#exchanges ?! Is it because they use "Bcash" for naming it?

Slush uses the term bcash all of the time. But they listed the Trezor wallet. Must be an oversight.
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September 24, 2017, 12:05:34 AM
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Its time for bitcoin cash to.... Cool Tongue

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September 24, 2017, 12:21:45 AM
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Too soon! Grin ...I hope BTC does the big dip down to below $3000 soon which everyone is waiting for. *lol* ...so I can buy BCH! Cool
is the reason it wont happen (yet)  Tongue

bitcoincash is ready to break  $10bill anytme and then begin heading towards $20bill+

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September 24, 2017, 01:26:24 AM
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Yes... but... the TA for BTC must do its thing... it will bring BCH (and all others) down with it. Everything will drop very hard.

My opinion only of course... and my hope! Hahhha... I want cheap BCH. Grin Grin Grin Grin
ta and crypto .....doesnt work for all,
theres alot of reading between the lines and a deeper understanding of crypto helps.
The key is, seeing the growing demand, knowing the limited supply,
people wanting in at a gd position and players not willing to lose position...hope i make sense  Cheesy

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September 24, 2017, 08:52:40 AM
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I honestly cannot tell if it was designed to work this way or just a huge glaring oversight due to being rushed and no testing

That you cannot tell is, telling.  Grin

I have no doubt this is working as intended, to suggest otherwise means they are just really lucky, I think not.

Here tek goes again with the EDA FUDing. The truth is that diff adjustments in BTC are fatally flawed. The Segwit coin is susceptible to a coin death spiral, which occurs if mining power decreases rapidly for some reason (like, say, China raiding and shutting down mining facilities... just sayin'). If diff doesn't adjust soon enough, as a result there can be no blocks mined for up to a month. This means no transactions can happen and the coin value drops off a cliff. This hasn't happened, but it could.

BCH tries to mitigate this problem by having emergency diff adjustments if hashpower really drops. Obviously the BCH coin has more hashpower than anticipated, so prices and mining are up and down a bit. Nonetheless, BCH is NOT susceptible to the death spiral phenomenon.

As far as "gaming the system", that's what miners do at all times with every coin - that's their economic incentive, and they would be foolish not to! Even if the coinbase issuance is not completely linear, what is the consequence?

Until this coin stabilizes the difficulty/hash/price parameters, it will remain nonviable. The constant triggering of EDA will prevent it from being competitive with BTC.

Isnt the function of EDA to ensure Bitcoin Cash remains competitive with Bitcoin Segwit?

I've tried to explain this at least 5 times, these FUDsters just run when they figure out again that their beloved Segwitcoin is actually the one with the "difficult" problem.

Then I hear these same people saying they like Lightning Network. I suppose they haven't really figured out that it can't be any better than Paypal and credit cards  by design.

As for "liking banks", I can't even...
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September 24, 2017, 11:14:31 AM
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