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In time pre-ICO there were no KYC and there were no agreements. Developers have changed rules of the game, and now refuse to return my investment. It in general is lawful? It is possible to file a lawsuit against them about it?
I consider it theft and fraud. I didn't agree and didn't sign any agreements in August. I demand that you have returned my money. I don't accept your conditions.
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premium_domainer
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December 12, 2017, 06:54:26 PM |
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In time pre-ICO there were no KYC and there were no agreements. Developers have changed rules of the game, and now refuse to return my investment. It in general is lawful? It is possible to file a lawsuit against them about it?
I consider it theft and fraud. I didn't agree and didn't sign any agreements in August. I demand that you have returned my money. I don't accept your conditions.
I don't think they are dying to do a KYC also spend some money for it. But it is a necessity to obligate the laws. I am sure that if there is not an obligation no project would want a kyc.
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Dan The Man
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December 12, 2017, 07:02:17 PM Last edit: December 12, 2017, 07:52:33 PM by Dan The Man |
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In time pre-ICO there were no KYC and there were no agreements. Developers have changed rules of the game, and now refuse to return my investment. It in general is lawful? It is possible to file a lawsuit against them about it?
I consider it theft and fraud. I didn't agree and didn't sign any agreements in August. I demand that you have returned my money. I don't accept your conditions.
I don't think they are dying to do a KYC also spend some money for it. But it is a necessity to obligate the laws. I am sure that if there is not an obligation no project would want a kyc. My question not about it. When they took my money in August, wasn't and I asked the speech this question about KYC, and the answer was "is NOT PRESENT, we HAVE no KYC". Now December, and they refuse to return my money. I didn't agree with their conditions. I refuse to pass KYC as I don't trust them and their company. This my right. They are obliged to return my money. Instead they have forbidden me in Telegram, and don't answer mail. THEY HAVE STOLEN my MONEY.
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premium_domainer
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December 12, 2017, 07:43:35 PM |
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In time pre-ICO there were no KYC and there were no agreements. Developers have changed rules of the game, and now refuse to return my investment. It in general is lawful? It is possible to file a lawsuit against them about it?
I consider it theft and fraud. I didn't agree and didn't sign any agreements in August. I demand that you have returned my money. I don't accept your conditions.
I don't think they are dying to do a KYC also spend some money for it. But it is a necessity to obligate the laws. I am sure that if there is not an obligation no project would want a kyc. My question not about it. When they took my money in August, wasn't and I asked the speech this question about KYC, and the answer was "is NOT PRESENT, we HAVE no KYC". Now December, and they refuse to return my money. I didn't agree with their conditions. I refuse to pass KYC as I don't trust them and their company. This my right. They are obliged to return my money. Instead they have forbidden me in Telegram, and don't answer mail. THEY HAVE JUST STOLEN my MONEY. Oh, I get it now. Yes, you are every right to be angry about it. They can't just change conditions of ico without giving refund option to already invested people.
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December 12, 2017, 08:13:01 PM |
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Do bounty hunters need to send kyc? We participated just bounties. It is ridiculous to give identity information for this...
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December 12, 2017, 09:51:42 PM |
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My question not about it. When they took my money in August, wasn't and I asked the speech this question about KYC, and the answer was "is NOT PRESENT, we HAVE no KYC".
Now December, and they refuse to return my money. I didn't agree with their conditions. I refuse to pass KYC as I don't trust them and their company. This my right.
They are obliged to return my money. They are not the first trying to pull that stunt regarding no-refund. ICON comes to mind. At the end of the day, with all of this -- the frequent unilateral changes of the terms, the frequent delays on their roadmap, the dubious people they associate with (the debt-collecting agency doing the KYC has a horrible reputation, the person running their po box company in Switzerland is documented to be a stock fraud) -- whether intentional or not, it shows that they are less experienced than what their marketing efforts (including the paid shills) wanted to make us believe. With all that, it's up to each individual to either continue to believe that they can succeed, or to dump this headache of a token as soon as possible.
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December 12, 2017, 10:18:58 PM |
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Do bounty hunters need to send kyc? We participated just bounties. It is ridiculous to give identity information for this...
The age of pseudonymity is ending especially in icos, i wouldn't count on doing just bounties would free you of kyc. You don't necessarily need to have that done this time, because we are still on the gray are on this, but i would bet that you'll have to do that in the near future with every ico.
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pak blek
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December 13, 2017, 03:54:54 AM |
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Do bounty hunters need to send kyc? We participated just bounties. It is ridiculous to give identity information for this...
The age of pseudonymity is ending especially in icos, i wouldn't count on doing just bounties would free you of kyc. You don't necessarily need to have that done this time, because we are still on the gray are on this, but i would bet that you'll have to do that in the near future with every ico. This will be complicated if the bounty hunters need to do KYC, I think enough investors who do that
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marketone
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December 13, 2017, 04:10:41 AM |
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Do bounty hunters need to send kyc? We participated just bounties. It is ridiculous to give identity information for this...
The age of pseudonymity is ending especially in icos, i wouldn't count on doing just bounties would free you of kyc. You don't necessarily need to have that done this time, because we are still on the gray are on this, but i would bet that you'll have to do that in the near future with every ico. This will be complicated if the bounty hunters need to do KYC, I think enough investors who do that I don't know why they need KYC from the people and even they are asking for bounty people. I think they never registered in their website to get the bounties, I think even manager didn't mentioned about it. If it required means then everyone one should send their KYC for approval.
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Blackwhite69
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December 13, 2017, 04:39:25 AM |
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Do bounty hunters need to send kyc? We participated just bounties. It is ridiculous to give identity information for this...
The age of pseudonymity is ending especially in icos, i wouldn't count on doing just bounties would free you of kyc. You don't necessarily need to have that done this time, because we are still on the gray are on this, but i would bet that you'll have to do that in the near future with every ico. This will be complicated if the bounty hunters need to do KYC, I think enough investors who do that To whether they complicate all this or in fact they will not pay rewards. I'm confused 
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December 13, 2017, 09:16:21 AM |
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Do bounty hunters need to send kyc? We participated just bounties. It is ridiculous to give identity information for this...
The age of pseudonymity is ending especially in icos, i wouldn't count on doing just bounties would free you of kyc. You don't necessarily need to have that done this time, because we are still on the gray are on this, but i would bet that you'll have to do that in the near future with every ico. This will be complicated if the bounty hunters need to do KYC, I think enough investors who do that To whether they complicate all this or in fact they will not pay rewards. I'm confused  You would think that they would have one person in this bitcointalk ann thread to answer our questions also. there are not that many bounty hunters it wouldn't take long to verify us all and pay us out so as not to tarnish there reputation in the crypto community. If any utrust people actually are reading this thread than please assign a team member to deal with this also. I understand you seem to be overwhelmed right now but we are bounty hunters and are quite skilled at assisting you if you just provide us a clear path or even assign one of us to gather all the kyc info for you.
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Dan The Man
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December 13, 2017, 09:45:17 AM |
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Developers don't contact and ignore my question even here at a forum. I consider it fraud.
I repeat, I invested in time of PRE-ICO and didn't sign any agreements. There was no KYC, if it was, I wouldn't invest. You have misled me. Have deceived.
I REFUSE TO PASS KYC, IT WASN'T IN CONDITIONS. JUST RETURN ME MY MONEY.
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December 13, 2017, 10:28:30 AM |
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so..devs. why you ban guys in telegram for uncomfortable questions? people start to think that you are scammers.
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December 13, 2017, 12:08:51 PM |
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My coins are available to withdraw
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December 13, 2017, 12:30:00 PM |
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My coins are available to withdraw
What does it mean? Why you can remove the coins if most of people haven't passed KYC yet? You are sure that it is not a mistake?
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December 13, 2017, 06:13:08 PM |
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Hey,
Any news from UTRUST?
Thank you
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premium_domainer
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December 13, 2017, 06:36:22 PM |
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Hey,
Any news from UTRUST?
Thank you
Only news, as far as I know, is they are using better and faster way for kyc and trying to fasten the process. In my opinion, it should have been over some time ago.
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December 13, 2017, 06:46:50 PM |
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My coins are available to withdraw
Really quite strange. How is this possible? Or did you just skip the question mark at the end of the sentence?
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December 13, 2017, 09:12:07 PM |
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My coins are available to withdraw
No they are not. I have the same message, they just ask your wallet (Ether) adress, just to.... wait again. Here is the message: "KYC Process complete!
Time to enter the ETH address to where we'll send your tokens.
We will send you an email when your tokens are ready to be withdrawn!" That's sooo funny! 
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December 13, 2017, 09:44:05 PM |
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What a mess guys, I didn't join ICO but only twitter bounty because I was thinking that price will dump after ICO (and maybe I'll buy then) and by what I'm reading over here people is gonna dump for real because they're pissed off
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