[ANN] ⚡ HEALTH MONITOR⚡ | Soft cap reached - ICO ending today | 1200 tokens left

[tororoshka]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

Again. I already understood that your device is bad enough to be unable to provide actual medical diagnosis, what I'm trying to understand is how bad it actually is.

Say 100 ill people uses your device 10 times each. How much of those 1000 measurements will result in recommendations to visit doctor? and how much of those will be missed?

Say 100 healthy people  uses your device 10 times each. How much of 1000 measurements will result in
recommendations to visit doctor?

What happens if I smoke, eat, drink alcohol 10 minutes before testing?

Was such tests ever conducted?
and if yes, was results documented?
and if yes can you share those documents with your investors?


This is important because 1% accuracy means that out of 10 000 uses (just 50 000$ in revenue priced 5$ per test) you can expect 10 people who will be false-positive/negative. Say 1 of them will actually visit doctor what will happen?

Imagine this - I'm going through test with your device and paying 5$ for recommendation to visit doctor. Then I'm going to doctor who charge another 100$ for actual diagnosis and tell me that I'm absolutely fine. So basically I just got burned for 105$ and some time. And this is if it's just false-positive. Would I be pissed enough to write a complaint to nearest health regulator? Absolutely. Will it result of your vending machine removal from the location? Probably.  

In false-negative case consequence will much much more worse, because based on negative result someone may not visit doctor in time, not get diagnosed in time and eventually sue you, or at least make sure your reputation will be totally screwed, not at single location but globally.

In either case investors looses everything. This is why there are little to no vending machines offering you automated health testing. Nobody want to throw money away really.

Clever conclusions. I follow the topic. The opinion of the development team is interesting.

I'll listen to the developers' answers to your questions. Have touched the actual questions on the topic!

[braves182]

And you have the opportunity to deliver to the Crimea? I talked about this device to a relative of a diabetic patient and he became interested in them.

I doubt that at first it will appear even in Moscow.  

may be in 5-8 years   in Moscow

Oh, how long! Why do innovations go to Russia for so long ?!

Problem is not in innovations, good they or bad. That 's very complicated to get permission on the bussiness without paying a lot of money 

In all Lands you must Paid but in Russia more than in other lands, so this is why russian Doctor make it in Czech Republin and in EU

that's exactly what i meant, friend 

[frankieShtain]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

Again. I already understood that your device is bad enough to be unable to provide actual medical diagnosis, what I'm trying to understand is how bad it actually is.

Say 100 ill people uses your device 10 times each. How much of those 1000 measurements will result in recommendations to visit doctor? and how much of those will be missed?

Say 100 healthy people  uses your device 10 times each. How much of 1000 measurements will result in
recommendations to visit doctor?

What happens if I smoke, eat, drink alcohol 10 minutes before testing?

Was such tests ever conducted?
and if yes, was results documented?
and if yes can you share those documents with your investors?


This is important because 1% error margin (99% accuracy) means that out of 10 000 uses (just 50 000$ in revenue priced 5$ per test) you can expect 10 people who will be false-positive/negative. Say 1 of them will actually visit doctor what will happen?

Imagine this - I'm going through test with your device and paying 5$ for recommendation to visit doctor. Then I'm going to doctor who charge another 100$ for actual diagnosis and tell me that I'm absolutely fine. So basically I just got burned for 105$ and some time. And this is if it's just false-positive. Would I be pissed enough to write a complaint to nearest health regulator? Absolutely. Will it result of your vending machine removal from the location? Probably.  

In false-negative case consequence will much MUCH more worse, because based on negative result someone may not visit doctor in time, not get diagnosed in time and eventually (best case scenario) sue you, or at least make sure your reputation will be totally screwed, not at single location but globally.

In either case investors loose everything. This is why there are little to no vending machines offering you automated health testing. Nobody want to throw money away really.

It's unimaginable that health-related company never thought about possibility of such outcomes. And this is exactly the reason why everything half-serious medical-related have to be licensed/certified inside out and again.

At this point I'm not sure what I'm more worried about - you running away with your investor's money or you honestly delivering untested broken device that have potential of bring real harm to the health of real people, while investors pays for it.

So many really interesting questions. let me answer by turns?

The threshold sensitivity of the proposed device at the discharge noise level is about 10 ppbv (0.01 mg/L), which makes it possible to detect the disease at an early stage, when it is still possible to avoid the use of lifelong insulin therapy of diabets.

This information is from a patent https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=RU&NR=2597943C1&KC=C1&FT=D

Each gas has its own spectrum at its own frequency. Therefore, if we add another gas, it will change the spectrum on a different frequency. If you drink alcohol, for example, then just add the spectrum of ethanol. It will not affect the spectra of other gases.

I think Nikolay will now write what will happen if a person drank alcohol or something ate, but we will determine the content of gases in his breath with an accuracy (0.01 mg / L).

Out of 100 patients with diabetes who have exceeded the level of acetone in their breath, the device will confirm the presence of diabetes with a probability of 100%. But if in the breath of a person there is acetone for another reason, the device will not be able to find out its origin.

[tororoshka]

And you have the opportunity to deliver to the Crimea? I talked about this device to a relative of a diabetic patient and he became interested in them.

I doubt that at first it will appear even in Moscow.  

may be in 5-8 years   in Moscow

Oh, how long! Why do innovations go to Russia for so long ?!

Problem is not in innovations, good they or bad. That 's very complicated to get permission on the bussiness without paying a lot of money 

In all Lands you must Paid but in Russia more than in other lands, so this is why russian Doctor make it in Czech Republin and in EU

In Russia, everything for people, as usual

[braves182]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

Again. I already understood that your device is bad enough to be unable to provide actual medical diagnosis, what I'm trying to understand is how bad it actually is.

Say 100 ill people uses your device 10 times each. How much of those 1000 measurements will result in recommendations to visit doctor? and how much of those will be missed?

Say 100 healthy people  uses your device 10 times each. How much of 1000 measurements will result in
recommendations to visit doctor?

What happens if I smoke, eat, drink alcohol 10 minutes before testing?

Was such tests ever conducted?
and if yes, was results documented?
and if yes can you share those documents with your investors?


This is important because 1% error margin (99% accuracy) means that out of 10 000 uses (just 50 000$ in revenue priced 5$ per test) you can expect 10 people who will be false-positive/negative. Say 1 of them will actually visit doctor what will happen?

Imagine this - I'm going through test with your device and paying 5$ for recommendation to visit doctor. Then I'm going to doctor who charge another 100$ for actual diagnosis and tell me that I'm absolutely fine. So basically I just got burned for 105$ and some time. And this is if it's just false-positive. Would I be pissed enough to write a complaint to nearest health regulator? Absolutely. Will it result of your vending machine removal from the location? Probably.  

In false-negative case consequence will much MUCH more worse, because based on negative result someone may not visit doctor in time, not get diagnosed in time and eventually (best case scenario) sue you, or at least make sure your reputation will be totally screwed, not at single location but globally.

In either case investors loose everything. This is why there are little to no vending machines offering you automated health testing. Nobody want to throw money away really.

It's unimaginable that health-related company never thought about possibility of such outcomes. And this is exactly the reason why everything half-serious medical-related have to be licensed/certified inside out and again.

At this point I'm not sure what I'm more worried about - you running away with your investor's money or you honestly delivering untested broken device that have potential of bring real harm to the health of real people, while investors pays for it.

so many questions, and so many interesting.  :)but I think you could  be more restrained.

[carabin84]

need more details

[nick_pedko]

The device show whether there is excess of separate gases in the exhaled air. It is the measuring device. As the medical thermometer, only Health Monitor measures not temperature, and the spectral analysis does.

Here also we ask to pay attention to patents and specifications of the device: the device copes with measurements very precisely. Admissible mathematical error of 10 ppbv or 0,01 mg/l.

If the examined person has a hyperglycemia, then in the exhaled air the level of an acetone will be increased and the device will define it in quantitative calculation. At 100 people with the increased acetone level in the exhaled air, each of which will undergo assay of 10 times, the increased level of an acetone will be found at each research.

If 100 people with normal level in the exhaled air have no glucose of a blood of the increased acetone level, then the device won't show the increased level of an acetone and for 1000 researches.

Please, if you are interested in gas marker of some separately pathology, report and we will give more developed answer on the substance interesting you.

As for influence of a nutrition or drink or smoking on results of researches, of course, these acts make changes to instrument readings. If to drink alcohol – the device will find alcohol in an exhalation and will act as the breathalyzer. But if on this background there is in air an acetone, then the device will show both ethanol and acetone.

Just because it is a spectral gas analyzer which opportunities can be used in the medical purposes.

[rallyko]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

Again. I already understood that your device is bad enough to be unable to provide actual medical diagnosis, what I'm trying to understand is how bad it actually is.

Say 100 ill people uses your device 10 times each. How much of those 1000 measurements will result in recommendations to visit doctor? and how much of those will be missed?

Say 100 healthy people  uses your device 10 times each. How much of 1000 measurements will result in
recommendations to visit doctor?

What happens if I smoke, eat, drink alcohol 10 minutes before testing?

Was such tests ever conducted?
and if yes, was results documented?
and if yes can you share those documents with your investors?


This is important because 1% error margin (99% accuracy) means that out of 10 000 uses (just 50 000$ in revenue priced 5$ per test) you can expect 10 people who will be false-positive/negative. Say 1 of them will actually visit doctor what will happen?

Imagine this - I'm going through test with your device and paying 5$ for recommendation to visit doctor. Then I'm going to doctor who charge another 100$ for actual diagnosis and tell me that I'm absolutely fine. So basically I just got burned for 105$ and some time. And this is if it's just false-positive. Would I be pissed enough to write a complaint to nearest health regulator? Absolutely. Will it result of your vending machine removal from the location? Probably.  

In false-negative case consequence will much MUCH more worse, because based on negative result someone may not visit doctor in time, not get diagnosed in time and eventually (best case scenario) sue you, or at least make sure your reputation will be totally screwed, not at single location but globally.

In either case investors loose everything. This is why there are little to no vending machines offering you automated health testing. Nobody want to throw money away really.

It's unimaginable that health-related company never thought about possibility of such outcomes. And this is exactly the reason why everything half-serious medical-related have to be licensed/certified inside out and again.

At this point I'm not sure what I'm more worried about - you running away with your investor's money or you honestly delivering untested broken device that have potential of bring real harm to the health of real people, while investors pays for it.

so many questions, and so many interesting.  :)but I think you could  be more restrained.

I agree, I think in any sphere of life you will not get a 100% guarantee for anything. Have you ever had a routine blood test? In different laboratories, the results have a significant difference. It was necessary to encounter ... and even in such seemingly simple The test reveals a lot of mistakes.

[brusnika]

I really like the idea. But, In my opinion, Two year is a long term to leave an investment. do you guys have any plan for short term? I understand it's not the business mode you guys are proposing. But i think you guys should consider something. May be you can make the tokens in PoS algorithm that returns a min no every year. That would be more interesting.

The advantage of crypto currency in my opinion is just that any investor could choose for himself a convenient investment term.

If you are considering a short investment period, you can sell the token on the exchange 3 months after  ICO
Most likely, in the case of a successful ICO, the token will skyrocket, as its price will be determined by the market, which will take into account the prospect of dividends in the price.

The advantage of crypto  is that investors here does not really understand what they invest into. Literate (in medical field) investor would rather not invest in medical device that does not work and even if he would, they would later have to answer for spent money. No business plan, no figures, no certificates - just some videos and a short article from 2014 that was written by some Russian scientists who isn't part of the project btw.

that's the problem of investors, if they don't study project deep enougth , but give their money someone. Nobody makes to do it) but you have right, some investors are really blind and greedy, now im saying generally, not about this project.

[brusnika]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

Again. I already understood that your device is bad enough to be unable to provide actual medical diagnosis, what I'm trying to understand is how bad it actually is.

Say 100 ill people uses your device 10 times each. How much of those 1000 measurements will result in recommendations to visit doctor? and how much of those will be missed?

Say 100 healthy people  uses your device 10 times each. How much of 1000 measurements will result in
recommendations to visit doctor?

What happens if I smoke, eat, drink alcohol 10 minutes before testing?

Was such tests ever conducted?
and if yes, was results documented?
and if yes can you share those documents with your investors?


This is important because 1% error margin (99% accuracy) means that out of 10 000 uses (just 50 000$ in revenue priced 5$ per test) you can expect 10 people who will be false-positive/negative. Say 1 of them will actually visit doctor what will happen?

Imagine this - I'm going through test with your device and paying 5$ for recommendation to visit doctor. Then I'm going to doctor who charge another 100$ for actual diagnosis and tell me that I'm absolutely fine. So basically I just got burned for 105$ and some time. And this is if it's just false-positive. Would I be pissed enough to write a complaint to nearest health regulator? Absolutely. Will it result of your vending machine removal from the location? Probably.  

In false-negative case consequence will much MUCH more worse, because based on negative result someone may not visit doctor in time, not get diagnosed in time and eventually (best case scenario) sue you, or at least make sure your reputation will be totally screwed, not at single location but globally.

In either case investors loose everything. This is why there are little to no vending machines offering you automated health testing. Nobody want to throw money away really.

It's unimaginable that health-related company never thought about possibility of such outcomes. And this is exactly the reason why everything half-serious medical-related have to be licensed/certified inside out and again.

At this point I'm not sure what I'm more worried about - you running away with your investor's money or you honestly delivering untested broken device that have potential of bring real harm to the health of real people, while investors pays for it.

so many questions, and so many interesting.  :)but I think you could  be more restrained.

I agree, I think in any sphere of life you will not get a 100% guarantee for anything. Have you ever had a routine blood test? In different laboratories, the results have a significant difference. It was necessary to encounter ... and even in such seemingly simple The test reveals a lot of mistakes.

Yes! what i do? sometimes when i doubt in result of diagnostic or tests, i go to other doctor. to check.  it's better than taking medication that you even don't need. If some errors happen in clinics, what should we say about machines.

[Colorblind]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

Again. I already understood that your device is bad enough to be unable to provide actual medical diagnosis, what I'm trying to understand is how bad it actually is.

Say 100 ill people uses your device 10 times each. How much of those 1000 measurements will result in recommendations to visit doctor? and how much of those will be missed?

Say 100 healthy people  uses your device 10 times each. How much of 1000 measurements will result in
recommendations to visit doctor?

What happens if I smoke, eat, drink alcohol 10 minutes before testing?

Was such tests ever conducted?
and if yes, was results documented?
and if yes can you share those documents with your investors?


This is important because 1% error margin (99% accuracy) means that out of 10 000 uses (just 50 000$ in revenue priced 5$ per test) you can expect 10 people who will be false-positive/negative. Say 1 of them will actually visit doctor what will happen?

Imagine this - I'm going through test with your device and paying 5$ for recommendation to visit doctor. Then I'm going to doctor who charge another 100$ for actual diagnosis and tell me that I'm absolutely fine. So basically I just got burned for 105$ and some time. And this is if it's just false-positive. Would I be pissed enough to write a complaint to nearest health regulator? Absolutely. Will it result of your vending machine removal from the location? Probably.  

In false-negative case consequence will much MUCH more worse, because based on negative result someone may not visit doctor in time, not get diagnosed in time and eventually (best case scenario) sue you, or at least make sure your reputation will be totally screwed, not at single location but globally.

In either case investors loose everything. This is why there are little to no vending machines offering you automated health testing. Nobody want to throw money away really.

It's unimaginable that health-related company never thought about possibility of such outcomes. And this is exactly the reason why everything half-serious medical-related have to be licensed/certified inside out and again.

At this point I'm not sure what I'm more worried about - you running away with your investor's money or you honestly delivering untested broken device that have potential of bring real harm to the health of real people, while investors pays for it.

so many questions, and so many interesting.  :)but I think you could  be more restrained.

I agree, I think in any sphere of life you will not get a 100% guarantee for anything. Have you ever had a routine blood test? In different laboratories, the results have a significant difference. It was necessary to encounter ... and even in such seemingly simple The test reveals a lot of mistakes.

Indeed. That's the reason you don't install vending machines capable of taking simplest blood tests (or any other medical related tests). Because no matter of it's results you will have to visit a doctor to confirm (actually exclude) certain diagnosis. Simple marker testing not only inconclusive - it's plain useless without professional expertise. Since you can't attach licensed doctor to any vending machines those tests not only adds 5$ to your medical bill but also could make you feel safe where you might not be safe at all (for example normal concentration of some chemicals in your body can be lethal for someone else, depending on your body mass, prior sickness history and tons of other factors).

Also I'm curious, have authors contacted single airport/mall/train station and negotiated installation of their vending machines there? Not sure about their target market, but in my country installing something that bunch of people will have to touch with their mouth won't be an easy feat because of sanitary regulations. I'm sure some similar regulatory exist in other developed countries, but I have not heard anything from dev on that account.


Ideally I would expect to hear something like "We are planning to install our devices in country X, where legislation allows installation of similar devices in public places according to provision Y, we have called train station Z, airport T and malls F,G,H,J with whom we signed MUI's (here is some scans with sensitive information blackened). Also here is agreed price, estimated revenue, net income and profit per token. Our vending machine was designed and order for mass production placed, so as soon as we got our ICO money it will take 2 month to assemble first 100 vending machines and install it. Expected return N ETH/token by June 2018 taking into account current ETH price and estimated revenue from 100 machines".

[frankieShtain]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

Again. I already understood that your device is bad enough to be unable to provide actual medical diagnosis, what I'm trying to understand is how bad it actually is.

Say 100 ill people uses your device 10 times each. How much of those 1000 measurements will result in recommendations to visit doctor? and how much of those will be missed?

Say 100 healthy people  uses your device 10 times each. How much of 1000 measurements will result in
recommendations to visit doctor?

What happens if I smoke, eat, drink alcohol 10 minutes before testing?

Was such tests ever conducted?
and if yes, was results documented?
and if yes can you share those documents with your investors?


This is important because 1% error margin (99% accuracy) means that out of 10 000 uses (just 50 000$ in revenue priced 5$ per test) you can expect 10 people who will be false-positive/negative. Say 1 of them will actually visit doctor what will happen?

Imagine this - I'm going through test with your device and paying 5$ for recommendation to visit doctor. Then I'm going to doctor who charge another 100$ for actual diagnosis and tell me that I'm absolutely fine. So basically I just got burned for 105$ and some time. And this is if it's just false-positive. Would I be pissed enough to write a complaint to nearest health regulator? Absolutely. Will it result of your vending machine removal from the location? Probably.  

In false-negative case consequence will much MUCH more worse, because based on negative result someone may not visit doctor in time, not get diagnosed in time and eventually (best case scenario) sue you, or at least make sure your reputation will be totally screwed, not at single location but globally.

In either case investors loose everything. This is why there are little to no vending machines offering you automated health testing. Nobody want to throw money away really.

It's unimaginable that health-related company never thought about possibility of such outcomes. And this is exactly the reason why everything half-serious medical-related have to be licensed/certified inside out and again.

At this point I'm not sure what I'm more worried about - you running away with your investor's money or you honestly delivering untested broken device that have potential of bring real harm to the health of real people, while investors pays for it.

So many really interesting questions. let me answer by turns?

The threshold sensitivity of the proposed device at the discharge noise level is about 10 ppbv (0.01 mg/L), which makes it possible to detect the disease at an early stage, when it is still possible to avoid the use of lifelong insulin therapy of diabets.

This information is from a patent https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=RU&NR=2597943C1&KC=C1&FT=D

Each gas has its own spectrum at its own frequency. Therefore, if we add another gas, it will change the spectrum on a different frequency. If you drink alcohol, for example, then just add the spectrum of ethanol. It will not affect the spectra of other gases.

I think Nikolay will now write what will happen if a person drank alcohol or something ate, but we will determine the content of gases in his breath with an accuracy (0.01 mg / L).

Out of 100 patients with diabetes who have exceeded the level of acetone in their breath, the device will confirm the presence of diabetes with a probability of 100%. But if in the breath of a person there is acetone for another reason, the device will not be able to find out its origin.

Regarding the legal aspect of the issue, until we receive a medical certificate, we always publicly declare and write that the device will not replace the doctor and that he only offers a service for measuring gases from the exhaled air.

We offer a service for a small fee. This service is similar to the example you previously delivered with an alkotester, which, by the way, was also developed by someone and did not do any harm to anyone.

But the most important difference of the monitor, in my opinion from the alkotester is that it is a complex, modern and versatile apparatus.

[shinas]

The device show whether there is excess of separate gases in the exhaled air. It is the measuring device. As the medical thermometer, only Health Monitor measures not temperature, and the spectral analysis does.

Here also we ask to pay attention to patents and specifications of the device: the device copes with measurements very precisely. Admissible mathematical error of 10 ppbv or 0,01 mg/l.

If the examined person has a hyperglycemia, then in the exhaled air the level of an acetone will be increased and the device will define it in quantitative calculation. At 100 people with the increased acetone level in the exhaled air, each of which will undergo assay of 10 times, the increased level of an acetone will be found at each research.

If 100 people with normal level in the exhaled air have no glucose of a blood of the increased acetone level, then the device won't show the increased level of an acetone and for 1000 researches.

Please, if you are interested in gas marker of some separately pathology, report and we will give more developed answer on the substance interesting you.

As for influence of a nutrition or drink or smoking on results of researches, of course, these acts make changes to instrument readings. If to drink alcohol – the device will find alcohol in an exhalation and will act as the breathalyzer. But if on this background there is in air an acetone, then the device will show both ethanol and acetone.

Just because it is a spectral gas analyzer which opportunities can be used in the medical purposes.

So this is a detailed response, but Colorblind needs research results.

[frankieShtain]

For interaction with the device a disposable plastic tube is used, it is absolutely hygienic.

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[Jest3r]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

I think it's good explanation. But for some people this is not enough.

Even when someone does magnetic resonance imaging MRI doctors don't write the diagnosis in the results.
They make a description what is on the film. And only attending doctor can make a diagnosis and prescribe treatment.

[frankieShtain]

[vitmatiunin]

I think it's good explanation. But for some people this is not enough.

Even when someone does magnetic resonance imaging MRI doctors don't write the diagnosis in the results.
They make a description what is on the film. And only attending doctor can make a diagnosis and prescribe treatment.

Yes, sure. And Health Monitor can be similar to tonometer or glucometer, which you can use by yourself at home. This kind of devices can't made diagnosis. But it can show you that it is necessary to attend the doctor.
The same situation with Health Monitor, but it detect not only the one diseases.

[rallyko]

I think it's good explanation. But for some people this is not enough.

Even when someone does magnetic resonance imaging MRI doctors don't write the diagnosis in the results.
They make a description what is on the film. And only attending doctor can make a diagnosis and prescribe treatment.

Yes, sure. And Health Monitor can be similar to tonometer or glucometer, which you can use by yourself at home. This kind of devices can't made diagnosis. But it can show you that it is necessary to attend the doctor.
The same situation with Health Monitor, but it detect not only the one diseases.

And the health monitor can also be used at home, like a tonometer. Only the price is too high)

[tororoshka]

Hello. It is difficult to me to present, than we will be able to convince dear Colorblind that the sensitivity of the device really allows to catch and record structure of a gas admixture of the exhaled air in a look, clear for a visual perception.

At the moment time, the device isn't positioned as the medical equipment. It is a spectral gas analyzer.

And on the basis of its data we won't tell "You have cancer or a viral hepatitis". We will recommend to visit the doctor and to tell that at a research on Health Monitor such composition of the exhaled air was taped. And practices concerning markers of pulmonary illnesses already are also them much. It from articles: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/14737140.2013.866044

In the same way and about Diabetum: the device will just show the high level of an acetone in the exhaled air. It is a some theory here: https://breathtecbiomedical.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Diabetes_1.pdf

And the doctor on the basis of a  glycated hemoglobin establishes the diagnosis.

The similar principle is realized in use of Health Monitor for monitoring of current state of health at people with already established diagnosis.
If these arguments aren't convincing, then I ask to describe more in detail what demands you makes to evidential base of efficiency of the gas analyzer in early detection of different illnesses.

I think it's good explanation. But for some people this is not enough.

Even when someone does magnetic resonance imaging MRI doctors don't write the diagnosis in the results.
They make a description what is on the film. And only attending doctor can make a diagnosis and prescribe treatment.

It seems to me, that the health monitor can be compared with a tonometer. It is an auxiliary tool for detecting abnormalities in health. Assuming at home you have measured the pressure and it turned out that you have high blood pressure. you go to the doctor, where he himself carries out additional studies on the basis of which puts the diagnosis.

[brusnika]

I think it's good explanation. But for some people this is not enough.

Even when someone does magnetic resonance imaging MRI doctors don't write the diagnosis in the results.
They make a description what is on the film. And only attending doctor can make a diagnosis and prescribe treatment.

Yes, sure. And Health Monitor can be similar to tonometer or glucometer, which you can use by yourself at home. This kind of devices can't made diagnosis. But it can show you that it is necessary to attend the doctor.
The same situation with Health Monitor, but it detect not only the one diseases.

And the health monitor can also be used at home, like a tonometer. Only the price is too high)

the price is too high because that's created not for home use) you will not make 30 tests per day every day.