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Just please stop with the translations. These additions are not going to create enough incentive to revive this thing.
I'm going to tell you the only clear way to raise this coin back to life.
Without a revolutionary unheard of technical implementation this coin has no chance of being adopted over it's senior competitors.
The developing team has to give up 90% of all their holdings in another massive multiweek/month airdrop like before.
Why
1.) There's no reason for the dev team to have all those coins at this point. They'll never be able to sell them with out liquidity or a proper exchange.
2.) Such a large un-circulated supply is an off put to veteran investors.
3.) It'll create the attention needed and give the opportunity to showcase all the hard work and development that has gone into this project over the last 2 year bear market. Highlighting the dedication and perseverance of the developers, team, mods, and community.
4.) By allowing those that have missed out on the original airdrop it could free the project from some of the bad stigma and bitterness that has loomed, while growing the community to new levels.
That's phase one
What do you all think?
I would put this up to voting but the proposal system is broken
Many translations are voluntary. I asked a friend to do a Chinese translation. There are many terms and terms, and they are also very professional. It is necessary for different languages. This is something that must be done before promotion. The second airdrop will not bring too many users. Maintaining existing users + promotion is the most important thing. If such market value and price are not attractive, you really need to reflect. Only the more users, the higher the value of the coin. I discussed the issue of development funds with the development team. Holding too much is really scary, but there is no reasonable way to deal with it! Maybe destruction is a good choice From $ 20 to $ 0.05, development has not sold development funds [/quote] Ok Why? How would another airdrop not bring more users? What users are left? I just offered a very reasonable course of action. Destruction would only help those holding now to exit there position. After the airdrop the team can implement some sort of node structure, masternodes/secure nodes and take a 10% fee. |
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May 24, 2020, 01:02:45 AM |
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I also do not think that the Devs would like to sell the Dev funds and run away. They would have done it in January of 2018 when both price and trading volumes were highest. But in order to make new investors feel more safe, wouldn't there be any possibility to lock the Dev fund? What about smart contract locking the coins and releasing them only after approval of VoteCentral, is something like this technically possible?
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I'm ok with that possibility. Of course don't launch the airdrop now. Time the market cycle and do it at the most advantageous time.
Any way it looks like it's just me and DeepFan in this conversation so I'm going to allocate my time else where.
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May 24, 2020, 11:32:35 AM |
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Russian translation arrived
Soon to be implement...@Impressive informed
We'll reward those translators next Sunday.
Are you interested in translating DeepOnion.org you can contact us.
Mod team is currently working on a marketing material for new coming DeepVault API and DeepVault promotions.
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Thank you for your point regarding blockchain notarization. It made me start a little bit of googling. The results brought me some answers, but also some questions. In the results of a simple search for "blockchain notarization", I did not see anything about DeepVault. So I have to ask, why the DeepVault website is not optimized for Google search, especially when this feature is presented to us as important and maybe even unique?
That's because we were solely depended on domination task and the votecentral task which never was including such task or possible to do that in such way. SEO optimization was the first thing we had to do for bringing real users. Moreover, within the first 3 pages of results, I found several online services offering blockchain notarization such as codenotary.io, notarised.io, notary.bitcoin.com or stampd.io which even offers various blockchains such as BTC, BCH or DASH. So my second question is, why would someone use DeepVault when there are these services? Are all these kind of centralize service providor? I have no idea but it more sounds like centralize service providor. Anyway, if they are not, DeepVault motto was kind of deceptive. Regarding the airdrop, I think that doesn't make any sense. It will just help the big whale to dump their bag. |
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May 24, 2020, 05:52:06 PM |
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I also do not think that the Devs would like to sell the Dev funds and run away. They would have done it in January of 2018 when both price and trading volumes were highest. But in order to make new investors feel more safe, wouldn't there be any possibility to lock the Dev fund? What about smart contract locking the coins and releasing them only after approval of VoteCentral, is something like this technically possible? [/quote] I'm ok with that possibility. Of course don't launch the airdrop now. Time the market cycle and do it at the most advantageous time. Any way it looks like it's just me and DeepFan in this conversation so I'm going to allocate my time else where. [/quote] I'm here too reading it. Continue. |
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May 24, 2020, 08:57:39 PM |
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Avoid posting twice in a row because it's against BCT rules and your account may get banned. Edit your post or wait for a reply.
Devs do read and review all posts here. Funds locked by a smart contract and released by VoteCentral is an amazing idea.
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May 25, 2020, 01:35:10 AM |
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Avoid posting twice in a row because it's against BCT rules and your account may get banned. Edit your post or wait for a reply.
Devs do read and review all posts here. Funds locked by a smart contract and released by VoteCentral is an amazing idea.
Thanks for warning if that was to me. I was not aware that it might be considered as spam even if each of my posts was replying to a different previous post. And thanks for the confirmation about reading and reviewing the posts by Devs. Hope that the idea about locking of funds by a smart contract will be discussed on the Devs side. It would be the first real benefit of the serious discussion I was asking for.
Thank you for your point regarding blockchain notarization. It made me start a little bit of googling. The results brought me some answers, but also some questions. In the results of a simple search for "blockchain notarization", I did not see anything about DeepVault. So I have to ask, why the DeepVault website is not optimized for Google search, especially when this feature is presented to us as important and maybe even unique?
That's because we were solely depended on domination task and the votecentral task which never was including such task or possible to do that in such way. SEO optimization was the first thing we had to do for bringing real users. Moreover, within the first 3 pages of results, I found several online services offering blockchain notarization such as codenotary.io, notarised.io, notary.bitcoin.com or stampd.io which even offers various blockchains such as BTC, BCH or DASH. So my second question is, why would someone use DeepVault when there are these services? Are all these kind of centralize service providor? I have no idea but it more sounds like centralize service providor. Anyway, if they are not, DeepVault motto was kind of deceptive. Regarding the airdrop, I think that doesn't make any sense. It will just help the big whale to dump their bag. Yes, SEO optimization is absolutely crucial. Not sure about the technical background of the notary services I mentioned. Did not have enough time for a deep check. Hope that this kind of market research was performed by the Dev team. I was just doing a simple Google search, same as an average user interested in this topic would do. And if DeepVault should have any chance to be successful, it has not only to appear on the first page of the results, but the related marketing must also very clearly explain its advantages over similar services in a way understandable to non-tech users. I really hope that there is any substantial advantage on the DeepVault side. And to BossBee, I think you can continue with your time allocation to this thread, there are obviously more people involved  |
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May 25, 2020, 02:31:10 PM
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Pffrt
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May 26, 2020, 02:00:08 PM |
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Yes, SEO optimization is absolutely crucial.
In domination task, I have only seen related task for increasing the presence of DeepOnion website with certain keywords targeting privacy coin, also all that works are not so good directly related with SEO. However, I never have seen any update from the team on what SEO work or what marketing progress is taking on to bring DeepVault in the attention of potential customers. Sounds good, we can give it a try. |
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May 26, 2020, 11:36:21 PM |
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Yes, SEO optimization is absolutely crucial.
In domination task, I have only seen related task for increasing the presence of DeepOnion website with certain keywords targeting privacy coin, also all that works are not so good directly related with SEO. However, I never have seen any update from the team on what SEO work or what marketing progress is taking on to bring DeepVault in the attention of potential customers. Sounds good, we can give it a try. SEO optimization for DeepOnion as privacy coin and anonymous coin is even more important than SEO for DeepVault as blockchain notary. BTW, after Google search for "privacy coin", I found only about 1 month old article on coinswitch.co called "10 Best Privacy Coins In 2020" and DeepOnion is mentioned there. So at least some good news. Also saw some interesting news about DeepOnion's competitor Verge. They have a new partnership which enables them to be available for purchase via fiat in 13000 ATMs in South Korea. I consider DeepOnion as better coin than Verge in terms of tech, but in terms of marketing, promotion and strategic partnerships, DeepOnion can learn a lot. And I agree regarding Poloniex, even though it is by far not so important exchange as it was a few years ago, it would be quite good replacement of Kucoin. |
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Pffrt
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May 27, 2020, 03:26:16 PM |
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Also saw some interesting news about DeepOnion's competitor Verge. They have a new partnership which enables them to be available for purchase via fiat in 13000 ATMs in South Korea. I consider DeepOnion as better coin than Verge in terms of tech, but in terms of marketing, promotion and strategic partnerships, DeepOnion can learn a lot.
Verge is also accepted in Pornhub which I think is a good one for them. But our community was so naive that most of them took it as negative way. I don't have any data on Verge usage in pornhub but I'm sure that will not be too low. They have this real adoption while we don't have any. Reference- https://deeponion.org/community/threads/xvg-being-accepting-on-pornhub.35601/ |
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May 27, 2020, 04:38:26 PM
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I plan on talking to the owner of a pizza shop that I frequent about the possibility of him accepting DeepOnion for payment as soon as this covid thing dies down a little more. I figure if BTC can do it, so can DeepOnion!! The shop is not a chain but if one place accepts it, maybe others will also. It would also be good advertisement for DeepOnion.  Verify this image at https://deepvaultonline.comDhbpjgzUBmx18WqKj3sXk9pZFR4dHLZD8R |
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Yes, SEO optimization is absolutely crucial.
In domination task, I have only seen related task for increasing the presence of DeepOnion website with certain keywords targeting privacy coin, also all that works are not so good directly related with SEO. However, I never have seen any update from the team on what SEO work or what marketing progress is taking on to bring DeepVault in the attention of potential customers. Sounds good, we can give it a try. SEO optimization for DeepOnion as privacy coin and anonymous coin is even more important than SEO for DeepVault as blockchain notary. BTW, after Google search for "privacy coin", I found only about 1 month old article on coinswitch.co called "10 Best Privacy Coins In 2020" and DeepOnion is mentioned there. So at least some good news. Also saw some interesting news about DeepOnion's competitor Verge. They have a new partnership which enables them to be available for purchase via fiat in 13000 ATMs in South Korea. I consider DeepOnion as better coin than Verge in terms of tech, but in terms of marketing, promotion and strategic partnerships, DeepOnion can learn a lot. And I agree regarding Poloniex, even though it is by far not so important exchange as it was a few years ago, it would be quite good replacement of Kucoin. I agree that DeepOnion community need to create tasks at VoteCentral in order to make use of SEO for each of the available DeepOnion features, this is a service and technology that is available, but DeepOnion is not using it smartly, at this time it can be easily done without investing big money, just via tasks at VoteCentral. |
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May 28, 2020, 12:07:35 AM |
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Also saw some interesting news about DeepOnion's competitor Verge. They have a new partnership which enables them to be available for purchase via fiat in 13000 ATMs in South Korea. I consider DeepOnion as better coin than Verge in terms of tech, but in terms of marketing, promotion and strategic partnerships, DeepOnion can learn a lot.
Verge is also accepted in Pornhub which I think is a good one for them. But our community was so naive that most of them took it as negative way. I don't have any data on Verge usage in pornhub but I'm sure that will not be too low. They have this real adoption while we don't have any. Reference- https://deeponion.org/community/threads/xvg-being-accepting-on-pornhub.35601/Yes, that was another partnership of Verge which came to my mind. In general, porn industry is a logical usecase for crypto, especially for privacy coins. Not only streaming services, but also webcams, maybe even some dating sites etc. But it's not only about porn and dating, there are other kinds of fun for adults such as gambling or betting which might be suitable for privacy coins. There are so many opportunities all around us, but it seems that some Team members prefer to post jokes here. I don't have anything against jokes, but I don't think it's right time now. Would be better to wait with jokes till ATH. At least I see some community members here who care about future of DeepOnion. |
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May 28, 2020, 12:49:11 AM |
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Yes, that was another partnership of Verge which came to my mind. In general, porn industry is a logical usecase for crypto, especially for privacy coins. Not only streaming services, but also webcams, maybe even some dating sites etc. But it's not only about porn and dating, there are other kinds of fun for adults such as gambling or betting which might be suitable for privacy coins.
There are so many opportunities all around us, but it seems that some Team members prefer to post jokes here. I don't have anything against jokes, but I don't think it's right time now. Would be better to wait with jokes till ATH. At least I see some community members here who care about future of DeepOnion.
We were once a very passionate community, built from ground zero with probably one of the most protective attitudes towards this project. We were an army hungry for success, things moved along very nicely till we got screwed over by the team. Everything just started falling apart but nonetheless we had fun, this post is not intended to discredit the new guys, but to revive what was once great you need to build a community, create that excitement and involve people that's passionate about crypto in general. Maybe then you will see a change, good luck! |
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May 28, 2020, 01:04:46 AM |
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Yes, that was another partnership of Verge which came to my mind. In general, porn industry is a logical usecase for crypto, especially for privacy coins. Not only streaming services, but also webcams, maybe even some dating sites etc. But it's not only about porn and dating, there are other kinds of fun for adults such as gambling or betting which might be suitable for privacy coins.
There are so many opportunities all around us, but it seems that some Team members prefer to post jokes here. I don't have anything against jokes, but I don't think it's right time now. Would be better to wait with jokes till ATH. At least I see some community members here who care about future of DeepOnion.
We were once a very passionate community, built from ground zero with probably one of the most protective attitudes towards this project. We were an army hungry for success, things moved along very nicely till we got screwed over by the team. Everything just started falling apart but nonetheless we had fun, this post is not intended to discredit the new guys, but to revive what was once great you need to build a community, create that excitement and involve people that's passionate about crypto in general. Maybe then you will see a change, good luck! Your opinion represents many community members who have temporarily left. They want to change the status of the community, but they need development support. The deeponion community is the most passionate community I have ever seen, and it is not difficult to succeed! |
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