Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013

[itod]

Yeah, it's either an admission that he's out of touch with reality, or is feigning ignorance. I'm not sure which is worse.

Being out of touch with reality is much worse, we are already used to feigning ignorance.

Calling people who shelled out 8-digit US$ sum to him (and being cheated not receiving the product) "malformed by greed" shows some kind of mental disorder.

[madmax_ger]

In other news, we are shipping as per usual like our last update and are doing the best we could but probably simply going to offer full refund soon, I am tired of this toxic community malformed by greed.

Ya know what?  I don't even care if I get banned for this; it needs to be said.
Go fuck yourself.  Go fuck yourself with a rusty goddamn kitchen knife, you rank amateur.

All anyone has asked for was for YOUR COMPANY TO HOLD UP TO ITS COMMITMENTS.
Ya know, how you posted a 'no bs' bulk chip order policy?  9-10 weeks lead time, no refunds, no games, no bs?

So much for no bs.  You just can't admit that you / your company failed to hold up their end of the bargain, failed to give prompt and clear communication as to what was going on, and brought the entire situation upon yourselves.  What did you think was going to happen, everyone was just going to be happy go lucky about having deadlines blown with no communication or answers as to why?
YES, sometimes things happen.  Delays happen.  It's the way it is.  But when you're dealing with someone purporting to be a business, you usually expect at least some communication in a PROMPT fashion - not this sit and let everyone stew and worry and speculate for a few weeks, pop in with excuses and promises of shipping again by end of week, and then disappear again for a few more weeks before popping in again with more excuses and saying oh now we're shipping again like we said we would be a week or 2 ago, and blaming the community and your own customers for YOUR failings.

You got my money, not the other direction!
False promises, no communition, "I just got from the plane".
MAN! I'd love to fly somethere from other ppls money, too!

So, who was greedy, Mr. Yes I Fucked U?

You should better say sorry for your own faults than inverting the facts.

[eroxors]

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/08/04/how-to-spot-a-narcissist/

unbelievable.

[bystander]

So where did that Avalon chip shipment that was tracked to Hong Kong end up, at Bitmine?

A possibility Bitmine have to pay extra to shipped the chips maybe another $2k or so to Yifu, so he can ship his batch a head of others,.

This sounds plausible, can't believe Yifu was trying to blame the community for greed when he is knee-deep in it from the beginning.

[madmax_ger]

So where did that Avalon chip shipment that was tracked to Hong Kong end up, at Bitmine?

A possibility Bitmine have to pay extra to shipped the chips maybe another $2k or so to Yifu, so he can ship his batch a head of others,.

This sounds plausible, can't believe Yifu was trying to blame the community for greed when he is knee-deep in it from the beginning.

but he didn't explain himself or the situation either.

EDIT: And greed is not what a honest customer is driven by. Greed is to promise but to not deliver in order to gain profit.
Every chip not shipped is more BTC for every miner, including Avalon.

[hchc]

It doesn't matter to Yifu because he wins either way. What will happen to the all those refunded gen 1 chips? He will just make more avalon and mine for himself. Also noted difficulty will not rise as fast. So it pretty much just him (which already has manufacturing experience) vs all the other upcoming big guys.

[rudrigorc2]

let's hope in the future not doing any pre-sells would solve all these problems.

Or sales, customer service, answering support tickets, emails and PMs.  That would also solve your problems, no?

What happened to trade-ins?  Cancelled?

Or you'll just say you don't want to deal with this BS.

What happened?  Too busy or you just forgot about them

+1

We wait a solution for tradein and batch3 refunds.

[peterepeat]

Now lets see if Yifu actually issues any of those refunds, this is starting to sound like nefario to me.

He hasn't refunded Batch 3 customers yet, what makes anyone think he'll honour chips refunds?

?? I'm pretty sure batch 3 customers got their refunds.

Hi Yifu,
I have not yet received my Batch 3 refund.
Can you please advise when you will be processing these refunds?

Thanks

[jamesg]

Now lets see if Yifu actually issues any of those refunds, this is starting to sound like nefario to me.

He hasn't refunded Batch 3 customers yet, what makes anyone think he'll honour chips refunds?

?? I'm pretty sure batch 3 customers got their refunds.

I am a batch #3 customer who has not received their refund yet. Order #5105.

[Unacceptable]

It doesn't matter to Yifu because he wins either way. What will happen to the all those refunded gen 1 chips? He will just make more avalon and mine for himself. Also noted difficulty will not rise as fast. So it pretty much just him (which already has manufacturing experience) vs all the other upcoming big guys.

You got it....& his homeland wins.......he'll sell all the chips there & forget about "ole roundeye" 

Very sad state of affairs,BTW,you think batch 3 refunds were/are slow.............watch how long these take !!! 

[ibminer]

Now lets see if Yifu actually issues any of those refunds, this is starting to sound like nefario to me.

He hasn't refunded Batch 3 customers yet, what makes anyone think he'll honour chips refunds?

?? I'm pretty sure batch 3 customers got their refunds.

I am a batch #3 customer who has not received their refund yet. Order #5105.

I'll help Yifu out with his communications:

"Huh, what refunds?   they weren't processed?   The BTC has now been sent!"

**2 weeks later, after every thread here erupts with 'still no BTC received'**

"BTC was sent... the chinese mafia somehow intercepted it, after I contacted investigators a bomb blew up my car, I am now under protective services and have to take the next flight to an undisclosed location to protect myself and my family"



Yifu - Karma is a bitch.

EDIT:   Sorry for the harshness - obviously frustrated, and it disgusts me seeing these types of responses from Yifu.

[BFL - CEO]

I'm telling you... 

yufu = you foo = you fool

You were a fool to believe. 

[A Meteorite]

Now lets see if Yifu actually issues any of those refunds, this is starting to sound like nefario to me.

He hasn't refunded Batch 3 customers yet, what makes anyone think he'll honour chips refunds?

?? I'm pretty sure batch 3 customers got their refunds.

Are you fucking kidding me? Only one person got their refund. I and no one else have received theirs and have the blockchain to prove it.

Obviously you are no longer in control of your company Yifu.

EDIT: Details from ticket #1343 that was completely ignored. Refund form on Google Docs was also filled out.

Order number: 4793
BitPay invoice: <redacted for now>
Transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/1ba37af34c45ead4aa94980f2de821e62304631e5a7fe69b5fa5d7c6d4799768
Refund address:1NXk9vEKg8LkcHtHwuZTPhFbUDS6L5Gy29

[pikeadz]

What a shame.  This company could have been great.  It has been driven into the dirt by an incompetent little boy.  Yifu, you have no face and are a waste of carbon.  You not only make your company look bad, you make Bitcoin look bad.  But hey, as long as you got paid, fuck everyone else, right? 

I received my batch 3 Avalons, but many tradeins were never processed and only one person ever received a refund (anemone5).  For you NOT to be aware of this is laughable yet sad.  You are a true shitbag.  And to think I gave you the benefit of the doubt for so many months.  I am angry FOR these people and hope you get what you deserve, prison time.

[Stack]

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.

I think Yifu is just scared shitless now that Zefir has posted and proposed to the investors to pursue legal action.

But, shouldn't we just say "fuck the refunds" and legally bury Avalon for good? I'd happily throw in some extra BTC to fund such operation. Even though I'm in steamboats groupbuy and not Zefir's, I'm going to support his action with hard BTC might it need to come to that.

It's time the bitcoin community took a stance against these elaborate scams.

+1

This was intentional, and when it is proven, yifu, it will mean jail-time for you and your gang.

[ftping]

Now lets see if Yifu actually issues any of those refunds, this is starting to sound like nefario to me.

He hasn't refunded Batch 3 customers yet, what makes anyone think he'll honour chips refunds?

?? I'm pretty sure batch 3 customers got their refunds.

Are you fucking kidding me? Only one person got their refund. I and no one else have received theirs and have the blockchain to prove it.

Obviously you are no longer in control of your company Yifu.

EDIT: Details from ticket #1343 that was completely ignored. Refund form on Google Docs was also filled out.

Order number: 4793
BitPay invoice: <redacted for now>
Transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/1ba37af34c45ead4aa94980f2de821e62304631e5a7fe69b5fa5d7c6d4799768
Refund address:1NXk9vEKg8LkcHtHwuZTPhFbUDS6L5Gy29

+1, still DID NOT get batch 3 refund despite filling out the Google form. Even opened support ticket # 1364

[noah tall]

1 - Refund all who have already requested it    NOW!

2 - Refund all who will request it within 24 hours!

3 - Post an apology immediately telling us what really happened




Then you can start mending your chi.

[atomicchaos]

He's set back so many that built businesses around this.. and spent countless hours developing hardware / software to work with the chips. BKK seems to come to mind the first, many others I'm not so concerned about, as they were lousy with their customers (ahem, Terrahash).

Everyone should consider supporting BKK a bit with all that he's done for the community here. Forgive me for leaving out others that probably worked just as hard behind the scenes.

Yifu- Fuck your Chi.

[afrotec]

 

Laughed so hard 

[pajak666]

brb making refund form, I'm done with this.

I think Yifu is just scared shitless now that Zefir has posted and proposed to the investors to pursue legal action.

But, shouldn't we just say "fuck the refunds" and legally bury Avalon for good? I'd happily throw in some extra BTC to fund such operation. Even though I'm in steamboats groupbuy and not Zefir's, I'm going to support his action with hard BTC might it need to come to that.

It's time the bitcoin community took a stance against these elaborate scams.

+1

This was intentional, and when it is proven, yifu, it will mean jail-time for you and your gang.

AFAIK we got chips worth ~14mil usd. probably community will find some pennies for burnin, bkk and other assemblers.
It will be easy to figure out who should get what ammount since there are clear delivery adresses in each group buy for each assembler.