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[Nullu]

I'm waiting for:

Greetings miners, we are happy to announce our Vipers are prepping for shipment. Please remit full payment.

..followed 3 days later with:

Greetings miners, unfortunately the shipment was lost in transit. We will need 90 more days. But fear not, it will be wonderful. Rest assured.

Which is pretty much what they did to you guys in June/July.

Yes, it's quite depressing how they dangle the carrot of hope, then pull it away at the last second. Time and time again.

[bander]

so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.

I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.

Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.

Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.

I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.

[cdog]

so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.

I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.

Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.

Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.

I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.

Was on phone with paypal for 1 hour. 3 supervisors. No dice :-(

[allcoinminer]

so it was a successful day for me. I payed my 30% deposit through paypal and my additional 70% via wire transfer.

I contacted paypal yesterday who opened a dispute and contacted alpha about it, but the dispute was immediately closed due to the 45 day rule. I called back this morning and pushed the issue until I got transfered to a supervisor. She said she had to do some research on it, so I fully explained the situatoin and how other people had already reported alpha to paypal, etc etc. Within an hour the 30% was back in my paypal account.

Then I contacted my bank on a hope and prayer regarding the wire transfer. Turns out they do have some options on wire transfers (at least USBank does). They are contacting alpha's bank and requesting the funds on grounds of fraud, and I have filed a report with USbank's fraud department as well. I will know more by Friday hopefully- I'll keep you guys posted.

Moral of the story- if paypal gives you the run around, call again, and again, and again. Be very nice to the people and I recommend immediately asking to speak with a supervisor or protection services. It also obviously helps if you run a decent amount of money through paypal every year- I threatened to switch companies and payment processors for a bunch of my stuff which i think helped to put pressure on paypal to rectify the situation rather than just passing the buck.

I'll update when I hear more on the wire transfer.

Was on phone with paypal for 1 hour. 3 supervisors. No dice :-(

You try calling again and referring the above persons experience to paypal.
PM the above member and get some reference details paypal emai id or case id to show paypal.

[ghost.rider]

The way we flush out this scum is by ceasing to pussy foot around.


Submit your suspicions about this gang of terrorists and Al-Qaeda operatives hiding the in the UK to

https://www.cia.gov/contact-cia

https://www.sis.gov.uk/contact-us.html

http://www.interpol.int/enเธ%20เธ/Contact-INTERPOL

The Ring Leader one MOHAMMED MUBASHER AKRAM


http://i58.tinypic.com/2vxn77b.jpg

Muhammad Akram
Mohammed Jafar Akram
Fiaz Malik

The money handlers.


The Ring Leader known as MOHAMMED MUBASHER AKRAM shall now forever be registered in every country's database wherever he tries to go.

This is how we flush out the filth.

[scutzi128]

How are you connecting a scam to terrorist activity? Don't be racist you scum bag.

[vesperwillow]

How are you connecting a scam to terrorist activity? Don't be racist you scum bag.

Speculation isn't racism. The US govt is actively investigating such links, so is Scottland Yard. It doesn't hurt to report, because if they're clean they're clean and nothing will happen. Alpha took a lot of money right around the same time certain groups gained a lot of money. It could be coincidence, but some folks feel like they need to report it.

[bumface]

if the only reason people are making these terrorist claims is the name of this guy, then that is extremely rasist and utterly disgusting.

where is your evidence?

what was is based on?

how did you formulate such claims?

are you brainwashed by the bush administration?

[vesperwillow]

if the only reason people are making these terrorist claims is the name of this guy, then that is extremely rasist and utterly disgusting.

That doesn't make it racist, that increases odds.

where is your evidence?

You don't need evidence, you only need the concern, which apparently some folks have

what was is based on?

The fact they took tens of millions from individuals around the same time some groups gained money, and then most of the folks in this group disappeared and have nary a trace online.

how did you formulate such claims?

I didn't personally call for such inquests, but I used my reasoning abilities to discern why others did.

are you brainwashed by the bush administration?

Why would people in the UK who are reporting them, have anything to do with Bush? And what does Bush have to do with ongoing issues worldwide?

Back on topic .. some people feel the need to report them, others don't. It's not racist, and there's also no product from AT.  These are facts. Rest assured.

[jrose120]

You never know, if they are terrorists who prefer to cut their customer's heads off rather than give them a refund, they should be reported. If they are clean they have nothing to worry about. With the current state of events in the world,  it doesn't hurt to ask the proper authorities to follow up on a group of individuals that have already demonstrated a complete disregard for their Western customers. I wouldn't be that surprised to discover this whole thing was perpetrated in an attempt to funnel large amounts of funds to people with less than good intentions. They deserve the attention. That's all i'm gonna say.

[bumface]

vesper willows your logic is completely flawed, just because 2 events happened around the same tme, does not mean there is a relation

in 1991 on Jan 20th - "Les Miserables," opens at Pantages Theatre, LA and Sudan's government imposes Islamic law nationwide, and yet there is no relation what so ever, only tinfoil hat people would say a bunch of guys dancing around in tights caused sudan to have an islamic state.

and if you think making the terrorist connection because of somebodys name is somehow not rasist, then you are truly confused as to what rasism is

you guys are completely brainwashed by the media, so i say it again, present even a single schred of evidence, you say you dont need evidence to make this claim, imagin if you were falsely arrested and the jjudge say, we dont need evidence, he is guilty......

here in civilisation you acuse, so you provide evidence.

just because their product is delayd, does not make them a damn terrorist, so turn of fox news and get out of your mind control state.

isis makes 3 million dollar per day selling oil, they dont need your money, who the hell would fabricate such a lengthy and elaborate hoax for this purpose. If this was a scam they would be long gone by now.

this is simply a case of people who saw profit for the taking in crypto, severely underestimated how difficult it would be, and over estimated their own capabilitys. when you mix this with external delays such as funds being frozen by paypal, the results we are seeing are all very logical

[vesperwillow]

I don't trust or use mainstream media, so way to go using a blanket generalization. Same with the Bush knock. I also said there may be no relation, but that it's likely one of many reasons why someone might report them. There's no requirement for evidence, just concern--that's straight from the Obama administration, as well as the current Scottland Yard officials. It was this same level of concern which supposedly led to the capture of 4 individuals in London yesterday.

It sounds to me like you fail english reading comprehension and critical discernment. Perhaps this is why you invested in them and others didn't? Do you even know what the term racist means? It doesn't apply to folks calling for an inquest. I've seen the same request made of the Hashfast people, who are neither of middle-eastern decent nor of the same continent.

I've never once supported reporting them to any agency, but I also don't see any evidence to call others racist for feeling concerned. I'm merely dissecting the possibility of why others do.

So why the hate? Chill out, and deal with your loss. Let others do as they please. Stay on topic, this thread is relating to providing help and information.

[bumface]

provide evidence or move your comments to an arian supremacy forum, and get out of bitcointalk.

you dont want to listen so i will teach you :

-calling people terrorist becasue their name is mohamed is fucking rasist.

-calling for an investigation by the fucking fbi becasue somebody is named mohamed is fucking rasist.

- blindly asuming that a person named mohamed is a muslim is fucking rasist.

- blindly asuming that a muslim making money might be a terrorist is fucking rasist.

if you dont understand that you are a rasist or not a very smart person

i guess you never heard of racial profiling.

every mohamed who is making money and fucks up a timeline should be investgated by the  fbi? you guys are a perfect fit for the gestapo

[penner42]

If they are clean they have nothing to worry about.

Yeah, nothing to worry about. Just a possible 15 years in jail before being found innocent. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/world/middleeast/abu-qatada-acquitted-on-2nd-terrorism-charge.html?_r=0
Look, clearly they've done something wrong. Whether it was an outright scam, or they really tried and couldn't meet their deadlines hardly matters to the people who have lost their money. But to accuse them of terrorism where the only evidence is they scammed a bunch of money is ridiculous. If their names were John Smith you wouldn't even bring it up. You should read Little Brother and Homeland by Cory Doctorow. While they're fiction, things like that absolutely can and do happen in the world today. I'm sure there are innocents who have been locked up in GTMO for years without a trial. Once a government or prosecutor takes aim at you, they keep going regardless of the evidence. Do some reading on Aaron Swartz. The "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear" argument is so wrong on so many levels.

[alexfgT]

Very interesting, KSC had already in all Mine, but the complexity has increased by only 20%, with a pressure washer 300mh / s per second ... it suggests that Alpha Mine starting from July ... And we have nothing to feeds that are not ready

[maildir]

The missing variable in the equation is "ill-intention"

1.Having bad intentions; malevolent

ma·lev·o·lent

having or showing a wish to do evil to others.


What they have done is used every trick in the book and even invented some to NOT pay people back their money.

How would you describe this then?

Simply refuse this and ignore all requests for it.

Couldn't give a flying fuck about you.

So if John Smith did this why do you suppose he did? What about John Smith would make him an utter piece of shit? Do we look where John Smith lives? Do we look with whom John Smith associates with? Do we look at what John Smith believes in.  Maybe John Smith is active on internet forums and only on forums that discuss guns.  What can we assume about that?

Principle?

What on earth would foster Alpha's malevolence. Their utter disdain for the customers. Principle? They actually truly believe that you are not entitled to a refund?

Or could it be something else?

Anything else.

[penner42]

The missing variable in the equation is "ill-intention"

1.Having bad intentions; malevolent

ma·lev·o·lent

having or showing a wish to do evil to others.


What they have done is used every trick in the book and even invented some to NOT pay people back their money.

How would you describe this then?

Simply refuse this and ignore all requests for it.

Couldn't give a flying fuck about you.

So if John Smith did this why do you suppose he did? What about John Smith would make him an utter piece of shit? Do we look where John Smith lives? Do we look with whom John Smith associates with? Do we look at what John Smith believes in.  Maybe John Smith is active on internet forums and only on forums that discuss guns.  What can we assume about that?

Principle?

What on earth would foster Alpha's malevolence. Their utter disdain for the customers. Principle? They actually truly believe that you are not entitled to a refund?

Or could it be something else?

Anything else.

Greed, plain and simple. Nothing more, nothing less.

[vesperwillow]

provide evidence or move your comments to an arian supremacy forum, and get out of bitcointalk.

you dont want to listen so i will teach you :

if you dont understand that you are a rasist or not a very smart person

i guess you never heard of racial profiling.

every mohamed who is making money and fucks up a timeline should be investgated by the  fbi? you guys are a perfect fit for the gestapo

You're a tool. Plain and simple. You, for some reason, are directing an attack at me--the guy who didn't support or call for investigation measures. I simply spoke up to provide some potential reason as to why someone may. You've been on this thread for awhile now whining about things, pounding your fist, and now you're directing your anger toward me for some reason. If there's one thing I can learn from you, it's how to be an asshat. I'll consider myself taught. Thank you sir. If I ever feel the need to act the fool, I will definitely take your lead.

If their names were John Smith you wouldn't even bring it up. You should read Little Brother and Homeland by Cory Doctorow. While they're fiction, things like that absolutely can and do happen in the world today. I'm sure there are innocents who have been locked up in GTMO for years without a trial. Once a government or prosecutor takes aim at you, they keep going regardless of the evidence. Do some reading on Aaron Swartz. The "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear" argument is so wrong on so many levels.

I'm familiar with those and the author, and I wholeheartedly agree with your last statement. There is a noticable difference between greedy business folk and someone who may actually have legit ties elsewhere, in few publicized cases have innocent parties been ruined by US Prosecution when abroad.

It's also worth noting folks called for the same "reporting" of Hashfast, so yeah normal white people do get reported as well. In fact, many folks on a daily basis are reported. It's not the best system in the world, but if you think about it, no government is there to serve the people--they exist to serve themselves. So you're screwed either way.

This is sortof one of the reasons why bitcoin came into being.

[jrose120]

I feel badly for the customers who paid via BTC. The rest seem to have been able to recover their funds. Even the wire transfer customers have a chance, assuming their money is still sitting in the account it was sent to. Get on it if you haven't already started. First come first serve, and when the money is gone from their accounts it's unlikely the banks will eat the losses.

Get your money back, that's all there is left to do. After that sit back and be entertained at all of this nonsense.

[Calhil]

Funny thing is that people using paypal. cc or wire transfers are in a much better situation than people using BTC to pay for the promise of scrypt miners