NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[gbeirn]

Try to set it up on a dynamic dns service, and tell us if it reliably works.

http://freedns.afraid.org/
http://www.noip.com/

Well no the problem is the IP address must be used to create the hallmark. This would help for a well-known peer.

You can put the domain in the hallmark generation form,
and set the domain in the MyAddress parameter, no?
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Hmmm, can you? I never tried that. I assumed it had to be a IP address not a FQDN

[Come-from-Beyond]

Sorry, CfB, can you add constantly link to the last or recommended version to your first post in this thread? Wikll be much easier find it inside topic in this case.

I can't, I'm not the topic starter.

[nexern]

CfB, how is the decentralised exchange testing going?

We've done with testing. Now all depends on when nexern completes his client.

yes, working on the client prototype and i am more than confident we have not
only the asset exchange until end next month. i would like to spend more time
on the client but i have to clear and finish some explorer issues before. don't like
to leave the explorer in an bad shape when starting fulltime with the client.
preparing a complete roadmap this weekend and post it here. some feedback would
be nice what additional features we like to see already integrated right from start.

Hi nexern. Are you considering listing your blockchain explorer company in the asset exchange ? we need some credible assets at first and I can' think of any better example.
I am going to buy your first share.

this is a nice idea indeed but blockexplorer can't pay any dividends to investors, so it wouldn't make sense.
while i understand, that many portals are in needs to placing banner-adds to generate some income, i wouldn't
because 1. the hosting is already payed for +1 year by donations and 2. i am not a big fan of blinki-blinki pages,
while searching for important informations ;-)

btw. i have checked a possible client arm port again but i have to say this is not possible within the next 3 months.
the gui/render engine would need a partially rewrite which needs to much time. perhaps something like sencha/phonegap?
would be good for this if quickly needed but i have not sufficient mobil-dev experience to built this in high quality.
perhaps some good ios developer could take a look at this but the native client will run for sure on win/mac/nix
out of the box as announced before.

[laowai80]

Hmmm, can you? I never tried that. I assumed it had to be a IP address not a FQDN

yeah, it'll work. but the IP resolved by the dynamic dns must still be visible to the world, must not be behind NAT/router.

[Anon136]

if i send a payment on an orphaned chain how do i get it back?

*edit* /get it over to the right chain

[davethetrousers]

if i send a payment on an orphaned chain how do i get it back?

Get rid of transactions.nxt and get a fresh, orphan-less one?

[bitcoinrocks]

Does the DDoS cause the nodes to max out their transmit bandwidth or receive bandwidth?

[Come-from-Beyond]

NXT nodes are needed to make NXT strong.  Those nodes are only going to be stood up by people motivated to do so.  I repeat my contention that forging does not seen to be a strong motivator for setting up NXT nodes when examined closely.  This could be a problem.   This forum exists to address to problems.

Me going out and buying Bitcoin ASICs as you suggest does not address the problem I identify.  Keep thinking, maybe you can come up with a better idea.

BCNext has a lot of tricks up his sleeve. NXT nodes will work as Service Providers. This is how bloated blockchain problem is supposed to be solved. And this is what will solve your problem.

[killver]

I am currently trying to get it running on my raspy, but when I access the frontend I get: java.lang.NullPointerException

I can click the message away but after unlocking everything is empty, no blocks, no transactions and so on.

[laowai80]

Does the DDoS cause the nodes to max out their transmit bandwidth or receive bandwidth?

I see now 50 mb/s in, 2 mb/s out

[Damelon]

Another way of saying this is that if you run a forging node with 1000 NXT, you will earn only 1 NXT for every 1 million NXTs that are charged as fees.  Thus you will "double" your 1000 NXT initial forging stake only when THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE NXT has cycled through once not as transactions, but FEES.

Maybe it's just me, but I gotta say that forging does not seem to be a very good motivation for running a node.

With traditional coins, mining pools allow a steady income rather than once-in-a-lifetime lottery windfall when (/if) you finally get a block. Is there to be a similar concept for someone to bother forging with only a handful of NXT?

I think you have a skewed viewpoint.
ATM scrypt coins offer a fairly decent return, IF you already have the equipment. If not, then you would need to invest in that (GPU´s that give a decent return aren´t cheap)
That will change totally middle of next year, when dedicated scrypt miners will arrive. Then you will need to fork out massively to start and GPU mining will no longer be profitable.
Not to mention that mining costs power!

Also, the market in coins after the BTC boom is crazy and nothing like a real market. At the moment, you are cashing in on the fact that people have no idea what they are doing. That´s fun, but won´t last. As soon as the power scrypt miners come in, people will turn away, and you will be dealing with people who mean real business. Then profits will mean WORK.

With NXT, this is no different, only now you have to take a transparent risk: fork out money if you trust it and hope for gains. If you don´t trust it, like in any venture, you don´t step in. There were a few people who were willing to invest early with no garantuees except that they were willing. After that, some people could get in fairly cheaply again, also for no garantuees but their trust, based on knowledge and insight.

And now, because people WANT to get in and have a piece of the pie, you have to pay more. Supply and demand.

This is perfectly normal business sense and I am a bit confused why the hell this is so hard for people to grasp.

[davethetrousers]

I am currently trying to get it running on my raspy, but when I access the frontend I get: java.lang.NullPointerException

I can click the message away but after unlocking everything is empty, no blocks, no transactions and so on.

Did you use my all-in-one pack? What does the server daemon say on startup? Any exceptions there?

[gbeirn]

Hmmm, can you? I never tried that. I assumed it had to be a IP address not a FQDN

yeah, it'll work. but the IP resolved by the dynamic dns must still be visible to the world, must not be behind NAT/router.

Are you sure? I just tried it here using both IP address and host name and came up with two different hallmarks:

fddcda69eeca58e5d783ad1032d080d2758a4e427881b6a4a6fe43d9e7f4ac34140063686970686 56164732e676f74646e732e636f6d640000008a2d33015cd65b85d9388aa2235ac84e33a833cdda e1c954db12edb44374c470cef372b2066cf8da20d7e96f7fad1523e76a1dab2cd36259aaa3673b2 6ad668691c19369a9

fddcda69eeca58e5d783ad1032d080d2758a4e427881b6a4a6fe43d9e7f4ac340d0032342e31333 12e3137322e3334640000008a2d33010a7def9f4266dc3061fb9c6d41a1651b164d28b1a9b6832a cfdeb8f46145d7780a4abfd5766127515b588492b557b8e19c2bce24b4e93bec79fa2c250a06336 203

Clearly the data inputted in the fields if different, but would both hallmarks still be vaild?

And it could be behind a NAT as long as the ports are open/forwarded.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Ripple is No. 2 on Coinmarketcap  

They put Mastercoin to push Nxt back, now they has put Ripple, what's nxt?

[laowai80]

Hmmm, can you? I never tried that. I assumed it had to be a IP address not a FQDN

yeah, it'll work. but the IP resolved by the dynamic dns must still be visible to the world, must not be behind NAT/router.

Are you sure? I just tried it here using both IP address and host name and came up with two different hallmarks:

fddcda69eeca58e5d783ad1032d080d2758a4e427881b6a4a6fe43d9e7f4ac34140063686970686 56164732e676f74646e732e636f6d640000008a2d33015cd65b85d9388aa2235ac84e33a833cdda e1c954db12edb44374c470cef372b2066cf8da20d7e96f7fad1523e76a1dab2cd36259aaa3673b2 6ad668691c19369a9

fddcda69eeca58e5d783ad1032d080d2758a4e427881b6a4a6fe43d9e7f4ac340d0032342e31333 12e3137322e3334640000008a2d33010a7def9f4266dc3061fb9c6d41a1651b164d28b1a9b6832a cfdeb8f46145d7780a4abfd5766127515b588492b557b8e19c2bce24b4e93bec79fa2c250a06336 203

Clearly the data inputted in the fields if different, but would both hallmarks still be vaild?

And it could be behind a NAT as long as the ports are open/forwarded.

put domain in myaddress in web.xml and put hallmark you generated against that domain.

then sign up at dynamic dns service provider, and have it resolve your domain to your dynamic ip.


both hallmarks are valid, but what you put in myaddress parameter must coincide with the hallmark.

[NxtChoice]

Try to set it up on a dynamic dns service, and tell us if it reliably works.

http://freedns.afraid.org/
http://www.noip.com/

Well no the problem is the IP address must be used to create the hallmark. This would help for a well-known peer.

You can put the domain in the hallmark generation form,
and set the domain in the MyAddress parameter, no?

Hmmm, can you? I never tried that. I assumed it had to be a IP address not a FQDN
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The real case is that I have my wireless router, and I use Nxt client in my computer through the wifi connection, and I also forge at RaspPI 24/7 through wire connection with the router.

My router is a PPP dialing.

[laowai80]

The real case is that I have my wireless router, and I use Nxt client in my computer through the wifi connection, and I also forge at RaspPI 24/7 through wire connection with the router.

My router is a PPP dialing.

yeah, so you're behind a router, it's not just dynamic ip issue, but more complicated

[Come-from-Beyond]

if i send a payment on an orphaned chain how do i get it back?

*edit* /get it over to the right chain

When blocks become orphaned their transactions r being returned to unconfirmed transactions pool.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Does the DDoS cause the nodes to max out their transmit bandwidth or receive bandwidth?

Former

[davethetrousers]

Using portforward, a dyn DNS service and updating hallmark and address in the config on every IP change should work... Inconvenient, but doable.