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December 29, 2013, 03:07:52 AM |
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I have heard there are about 10 million unclaimed NXT. I have a plan that would make for great PR for the NXT founders.
All they have to do is vote to distributed a non-founder dividend from the future sales of these 10 million NXT. By setting specific prices with smaller and smaller volumes at higher and higher prices, the total donation of the founders will be many millions of dollars.
BCnext gave all the founders winning lottery tickets.
If all the founders voted to not grab any of the unclaimed NXT (worth millions of dollars), our opponents will somehow have to claim that the horrible greedy NXT founders VOTED to donate money they could have easily kept for themselves. Actions speak louder than words.
Let the cycle of generosity continue!
I know all the non-founders will like this idea of a dividend that only non-founders will get. I sure hope the founders see the wisdom in doing what BCnext did and spread the wealth.
The PR value from this will be very powerful
James
James, Unclaimed Nxt should be reserved for network development.
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December 29, 2013, 03:08:01 AM |
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utopianfuture, While it is probably pointless to spend time debating the yuris of the world, think of him as the public perception ddos equivalent. The college prank ddos hit us and hit us hard because the network was so small. Did we ignore it and say, there is no point in beefing up our servers? Hell no! They attacked us, we defended the best we could and now our network is much stronger. So, when the yuri's of the world attack us are we going to just take it and say there is not point in defending ourselves? Hell no! We MUST defend against this type of attack because it appeals to people's emotions of jealousy. Very powerful and it overrides logic. People will make up their minds emotionally and then find logical reasons to support their decision. If someone like yuri can attack NXT's very core creation and success and twist it into a plausible "greedy 71" story, then we are in trouble. Since the key part of the story is BCnext's multimillion dollar giveaway, why aren't we pushing that storyline?  Mystery man gives dozens of strangers millions of dollars and disappears! Isn't that MUCH better for NXT? I want to know how yuri will ddos this James
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December 29, 2013, 03:08:11 AM |
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roger! 
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December 29, 2013, 03:12:28 AM |
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Ripple instructions for people with ripple accounts Go to: http://dev.peercover.com/#/simpleGatewayclick on the NXT tab For deposit: select deposit Add trust for the amount of NXT you want to deposit to ra9eZxMbJrUcgV8ui7aPc161FgrqWScQxV put in your email address and click "deposit NXT" and follow instructions instructions will show NXT address to send NXT to as soon as it arrives it will be automatically sent to your ripple wallet James
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December 29, 2013, 03:15:01 AM |
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utopianfuture, While it is probably pointless to spend time debating the yuris of the world, think of him as the public perception ddos equivalent. The college prank ddos hit us and hit us hard because the network was so small. Did we ignore it and say, there is no point in beefing up our servers? Hell no! They attacked us, we defended the best we could and now our network is much stronger. So, when the yuri's of the world attack us are we going to just take it and say there is not point in defending ourselves? Hell no! We MUST defend against this type of attack because it appeals to people's emotions of jealousy. Very powerful and it overrides logic. People will make up their minds emotionally and then find logical reasons to support their decision. If someone like yuri can attack NXT's very core creation and success and twist it into a plausible "greedy 71" story, then we are in trouble. Since the key part of the story is BCnext's multimillion dollar giveaway, why aren't we pushing that storyline?  Mystery man gives dozens of strangers millions of dollars and disappears! Isn't that MUCH better for NXT? I want to know how yuri will ddos this James BCNext is just a weird man who happens to be a genius. If he just wants to give away, he have not threatened to leave when some big stakeholders just do nothing to NXT's cause. It has to be admitted that the whole initial distribution is a mess. And it is BCNext's responsibility. Now he would have to do something to salvage it. I help him and NXt's cause as much as I can just because I believe he is a genius.
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December 29, 2013, 03:18:23 AM |
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I have heard there are about 10 million unclaimed NXT. I have a plan that would make for great PR for the NXT founders.
All they have to do is vote to distributed a non-founder dividend from the future sales of these 10 million NXT. By setting specific prices with smaller and smaller volumes at higher and higher prices, the total donation of the founders will be many millions of dollars.
BCnext gave all the founders winning lottery tickets.
If all the founders voted to not grab any of the unclaimed NXT (worth millions of dollars), our opponents will somehow have to claim that the horrible greedy NXT founders VOTED to donate money they could have easily kept for themselves. Actions speak louder than words.
Let the cycle of generosity continue!
I know all the non-founders will like this idea of a dividend that only non-founders will get. I sure hope the founders see the wisdom in doing what BCnext did and spread the wealth.
The PR value from this will be very powerful
James
I'd just split the money between Cfb's team and other programmers who did hell of a job. They'd find right application: buy more servers, pay for pr and other stuff. It would way better for Nxt future than just sell it to random people who'll resell all coins the same day on Dgex.
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December 29, 2013, 03:19:23 AM |
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utopianfuture,
Why is defending marketing attacks against NXT lower in priority? What is more important that the public's perception of NXT? Perception is reality, especially in crypto
If people's first impression is what yuri's of the world spread, that would severely lighten the load on the NXT servers. There are over one hundred altcoins plus bitcoin itself and presumably other challenges ahead for NXT. We cannot stay 100% tech oriented and just count on the public to accept NXT.
Distributed servers, distributed development all very good. However, distributed marketing is essentially no marketing. Is that what the NXT community wants? If so, let's just take down all the wikis, videos, etc. Just publish the source code and be done with the public.
Do we want NXT to grow to what it is capable of? If so, we MUST defend ourselves and establish the market position NXT deserves. NXT is up and running, NXT has an active user base. NXT has an active trading volume. NXT has the second generation features that no other coin currently has. I estimate at most a three month window of opportunity for NXT to capture the slot of being the next bitcoin.
Of course we need servers, but we also need good concentrated laser beam marketing.
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:20:05 AM |
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Ripple instructions for people with ripple accounts Go to: http://dev.peercover.com/#/simpleGatewayclick on the NXT tab For deposit: select deposit Add trust for the amount of NXT you want to deposit to ra9eZxMbJrUcgV8ui7aPc161FgrqWScQxV put in your email address and click "deposit NXT" and follow instructions instructions will show NXT address to send NXT to as soon as it arrives it will be automatically sent to your ripple wallet James well, that's for ppl who want to sell nxt. In my case, I already have XRPs in my wallet, and I want to buy nxt using these XRPs, How do I let your system know that?
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December 29, 2013, 03:21:13 AM |
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newcn,
just go to the trade page in the ripple wallet type in "NXT/XRP" issuer peercovers id put in buy offer
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:22:30 AM |
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utopianfuture,
Why is defending marketing attacks against NXT lower in priority? What is more important that the public's perception of NXT? Perception is reality, especially in crypto
If people's first impression is what yuri's of the world spread, that would severely lighten the load on the NXT servers. There are over one hundred altcoins plus bitcoin itself and presumably other challenges ahead for NXT. We cannot stay 100% tech oriented and just count on the public to accept NXT.
Distributed servers, distributed development all very good. However, distributed marketing is essentially no marketing. Is that what the NXT community wants? If so, let's just take down all the wikis, videos, etc. Just publish the source code and be done with the public.
Do we want NXT to grow to what it is capable of? If so, we MUST defend ourselves and establish the market position NXT deserves. NXT is up and running, NXT has an active user base. NXT has an active trading volume. NXT has the second generation features that no other coin currently has. I estimate at most a three month window of opportunity for NXT to capture the slot of being the next bitcoin.
Of course we need servers, but we also need good concentrated laser beam marketing.
James
Did I send you my "first document" ? If not I am going to.
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December 29, 2013, 03:27:02 AM |
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newcn,
just go to the trade page in the ripple wallet type in "NXT/XRP" issuer peercovers id put in buy offer
James
ok, the question remains, how do I relate my existing ripple wallet to my account? note, I don't want to create a new one, I only found CREATE option on your site.
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December 29, 2013, 03:30:40 AM |
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Maybe CfB can comment on the dev team's desire to manage a NXT marketing campaign?
I've programmed a lot of C code, from an entire C compiler to a realtime forex trading system. The NXT team is doing quite well and even though I could probably contribute in some minor ways on the technical side, my strength is more on the strategic marketing and finance side. I play chess at 2200 FIDE level. This means I can easily beat 99% of the people in the world at chess, but I get crushed by 1%. the NXT dev team is full of world class grandmasters, the last thing they need is some weak master slowing them down.
If we all had a 100% technology focus, we won't maximize the value of NXT. We all need to do the things that we can do well that will most leverage everything else that is going on. That means server people can do servers. dev people develop tech. communications people communicate. people who just want to help can support newbies. Everybody can contribute and each contribution makes NXT more valuable for all of us.
I am sure I see a gaping hole in what NXT is doing and that is in the strategic marketing. The wiki, videos, etc. are all fantastic starts and we just need to tweak the message to create a positive image for NXT. Companies that have nothing positive to offer manage to have very positive images. NXT is so positive in so many ways, it won't be hard to obtain the positive image it deserves.
However, we can't ignore it.
The "greedy founders" rhetoric is one of the few potential stumbling blocks that I see and I want to fix it so instead of being a negative or at best neutral story, it is totally positive. The unclaimed NXT represents potentially millions of dollars that can be painlessly given away by the founders.
Please some founders, can you provide some feedback?
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:32:24 AM |
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newcn,
just go to the trade page in the ripple wallet type in "NXT/XRP" issuer peercovers id put in buy offer
James
sorry. I didn't read carefully about your message. but in the trade page inside ripple, from the menu list, I can not find a XRP/NXT exchange! what should I do?
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December 29, 2013, 03:33:02 AM |
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newcn,
If you want to just purchase NXT via ripple, you don't need to use peercover's site. I work with them, I am not actually part of peercover.
In ripple you can type in any currency combination in the dropdown, so type in "NXT/XRP" and select peercover as the issuer.
There is no need to go to peercover site until you want to withdraw.
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:34:27 AM |
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newcn,
NXT is not in the dropdown, so you have to manually type it in. it is casesensitive. Also please understand it is still under beta test and there are not too many offers active yet. Soon there will be as so far everything appears to be working fine.
James
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December 29, 2013, 03:38:14 AM |
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I read aldrin's post and I don't even know what to say. You shouldn't just sell but also contribute to NXT's cause. I have not seen you much.
You don't know what to say because you don't know anything about me - my age, my skill level, my life commitments, my domestic circumstances. You don't know what I'm doing to help NXT, but it sounds like you have made some assumptions, and some judgments too. I offered some feedback relevant to genuine concerns people have raised about big stake holders hoarding, and the damage it would do to NXT.
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December 29, 2013, 03:38:27 AM |
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newcn,
NXT is not in the dropdown, so you have to manually type it in. it is casesensitive. Also please understand it is still under beta test and there are not too many offers active yet. Soon there will be as so far everything appears to be working fine.
James
thank you very much! I finally success by typing XRP/NXT(but failed by typing NXT/XRP)
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December 29, 2013, 03:40:23 AM |
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 Only 200 aliases... I feel I should have at least twice that. Some are registering hourly,,, some others are not adding though. Could it take more than 24 hours to update? See someone locked in Sakura in all 30 plus ways it can be written  Still got an alt of it in 1337
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December 29, 2013, 03:41:49 AM |
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NXT is very features, But the client can upgrade more easy to use?
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December 29, 2013, 03:43:35 AM |
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NXT is very features, But the client can upgrade more easy to use?
It will be something like this, but I don't know when they will launch it. Maybe 3rd january? Can you confirm CfB?  
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