NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[NxtChoice]

What about going on some Bitcoin podcast like Let's Talk Bitcoin and such? There are many. They are big spreaders of news.

Nxt...we need validation from big crypto names, Andreas was one but even he doesn't full understand at this point what it is...

Validation is the key.

we can write the scripts for Tai Zen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rIO_McRPwQ&feature=youtu.be)
- we can brainstorm on topics he could speak about
- some Questions and Answers
- + anyone can write the whole script...
- he has a nice speech + asian looks is also a benefit

I have asked my wife writing the scripts today Her listening is better than me   I will add the subtitle in a few days for those 4 videos.

[Damelon]

Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

- How will we evaluate the results? By what criteria?  

During that time they will announce results.

I will do this anyway in my daily summaries.

[jl777]

Please calm. 250K sent already. 3 million marketing plan has been tentatively approved. As long as results come in, regular 250K payments will be sent. Marketing is simply a cost that needs to be spent. 250K per month is 3 million NXT per year. that seems enough to get a lot more marketing done than before.

All the sausage making can be done at nxtcrypto now. There is funding. This thread will just be there for the progress announcements.

The point is: we want something official. As the price grows, suddenly people become more and more reluctant to spend on the work we do.
I got thanked by BTer for suggesting them to add NXT, they did, price grew 100%, did I get anything in return? NO. People wanted to reward BTER instead
This community is so ungrateful and selfish that it's painful.

We are sending people to the official bitcoin conferences from our own fucking wallets. Why aren't the NXT fund being spent on this?

Of course I am pissed, I have witnessed this selfish ungratefulness for over a month now and for some fuckedup reason this thread is still seen as the "official" place where these decisions is made, eventhough ALL the PR work are being done by us on the nxt forum. MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and I am fuckng tired of it

Sorry about that, but NXT decision makers are here. Now we have a de facto marketing budget for 2014. Payable monthly, based on making good results each month. you won't have to deal with the funding issues anymore, salacz is de facto in charge of marketing budget, so just need to work with salacz.

Now marketing group has community backing. it is based on performance, but that is only fair. No need to waste energy on what happened in the past. This is a great day for NXT. Marketing budget initial funding happened.

James

The deciders? who? When did NXT become centralized? CfB has been hanging out over at the NXT forum all the time, yet he turns to this thread to get the official decisions from people who are invested in 100 other coins too? Makes zero sense.

Where was the logo decision held? nextcoin forum.
Where was the marketing plans hatched? nextcoin forum
Where was the infographics, the videos, the business cards, the conferences, the brochures, the first casinos etc. organized and made? nextcoin forum.

This thread should be nothing but a historical piece to look back on.
Over at the nextcoin forum we got sections, it's actually possible to organize things unlike in this thread.

And it's based on results? Ok by that logic I was thanked by bter to get them to add NXT, so I am patiently waiting for my reward.... Jesus, you can't pay based on results post-event.

If you ask a guy to make a NXT video that cost like 50K NXT and it turns out it didn't get the views we wanted you can't just say "oh no sorry, yo uwont be getting your NXT for the work after all"

THe unprofessionalism is staggering

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

[jl777]

Part of the 10M should definitely go for user experience and marketing. To spend NXT marketing without a easy-as-apple interface is a waste and might hurt us permanently. We need to have a client that is as simple as online banking. Our client has to be simpler than bitcoin. Bitcoin's client shouldn't even be a reference. Bank of America's interface should be a guide as far as look and feel goes.
Long and boring instruction videos or manuals cannot overcome a weird hard to use interface.

WE MUST HAVE THE CLIENT BEFORE THE MARKETING.

We need a client now and marketing right after but please do not pull the trigger on marketing before having a client that doesn't reek of crypto currency.

I hear or read something about NXT, a link gets me to the client. that is where its end for me, never to come back again.

Joe average wont bother without an effecient self installer client.

Pin

are you saying nexern's client is an inefficient manual install client that is hard to use? I am confused.

How long does it take to write software? debug it, get it tested, etc. One day, one week, one month? All depends.
How long does it take to get actual marketing results? One hour? One day? one week? one month?

Software development takes time. Marketing also takes time.

With client one week away, we had to start marketing push now.

James

Think you misunderstood, James. As of now, today. so please let that campaign start after we have a client.

Of course you can start with the preparations and determine the angle of attack

Until funding, it was not possible to do much. Hard to prepare without knowing budget. Don't forget content creations. Anyway, I think this issue is settled. Marketing group that brought is bter is now funded and as long as each month has decent results, funding continues for 2014

For people that want funding for more tech, etc.there are still 7 million NXT unclaimed

James

[Bitventurer]

Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

- How will we evaluate the results? By what criteria?  

by new unlocked accounts on the blockchain ?

[Uniqueorn]

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

Well I personally don't give a single fuck about 99% of the big hoarders, they have not contributed one bit, their influence should be zero, zip nada, fuck nothing at all.
Why the hell would we want to let those with the most NXT decide? That's centralization. They don't contribute in anyway to the community.
There is a handful of people who do, the rest are just jacking off to the price increase.

And now 250K was sent to salsacz... ok now what? How are we supposed to decide further how to spend those 250K?
And how much do we pay ourselves for our own work? NOw who decides that? It's 100% centralized.
Don't get me wrong, I love salsacz's work and have close contact with him for several weeks now, but now there is no group decisions anymore and no NXT to all the rest of us.

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

[jl777]

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

Well I personally don't give a single fuck about 99% of the big hoarders, they have not contributed one bit, their influence should be zero, zip nada, fuck nothing at all.
Why the hell would we want to let those with the most NXT decide? That's centralization. They don't contribute in anyway to the community.
There is a handful of people who do, the rest are just jacking off to the price increase.

And now 250K was sent to salsacz... ok now what? How are we supposed to decide further how to spend those 250K?
And how much do we pay ourselves for our own work? NOw who decides that? It's 100% centralized.
Don't get me wrong, I love salsacz's work and have close contact with him for several weeks now, but now there is no group decisions anymore and no NXT to all the rest of us.

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

salacz will distribute to various marketing projects. Still decentralized, but someone has to deal with all the marketing projects and CfB decided to delegate. I am sorry I didn't realize you were so independent from salacz, I had thought you were all working together

James

[salsacz]

How about something like this:
2. Giveaway 500 NXT to 500 people on forums- 250k

There will never be a giveaway for free. Only for people who will share our infographics/videos. We still do not have all information needed to create those infographics, but I am gathering them in the NxtMyths articles.

[garcias]

CfB sent you a PM about Portuguese translation 

[Bitventurer]

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

Well I personally don't give a single fuck about 99% of the big hoarders, they have not contributed one bit, their influence should be zero, zip nada, fuck nothing at all.
Why the hell would we want to let those with the most NXT decide? That's centralization. They don't contribute in anyway to the community.
There is a handful of people who do, the rest are just jacking off to the price increase.

And now 250K was sent to salsacz... ok now what? How are we supposed to decide further how to spend those 250K?
And how much do we pay ourselves for our own work? NOw who decides that? It's 100% centralized.
Don't get me wrong, I love salsacz's work and have close contact with him for several weeks now, but now there is no group decisions anymore and no NXT to all the rest of us.

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

take it easy man , the universe will decide for NXT    
the big stake holders that don’t do shit will be punished by the universe aka karma ... simple as that...

[Uniqueorn]

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

Well I personally don't give a single fuck about 99% of the big hoarders, they have not contributed one bit, their influence should be zero, zip nada, fuck nothing at all.
Why the hell would we want to let those with the most NXT decide? That's centralization. They don't contribute in anyway to the community.
There is a handful of people who do, the rest are just jacking off to the price increase.

And now 250K was sent to salsacz... ok now what? How are we supposed to decide further how to spend those 250K?
And how much do we pay ourselves for our own work? NOw who decides that? It's 100% centralized.
Don't get me wrong, I love salsacz's work and have close contact with him for several weeks now, but now there is no group decisions anymore and no NXT to all the rest of us.

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

salacz will distribute to various marketing projects. Still decentralized, but someone has to deal with all the marketing projects and CfB decided to delegate. I am sorry I didn't realize you were so independent from salacz, I had thought you were all working together

James

I am not very independent of salsacz, we talk, infact we talk right now on Skype. I got full trust in him, but suddenly things got a lot more centralized than was initially planned. That's what bothers me. CfB seems to make these decisions randomly. At first the plan was 10 million spread to 10 people who would then have to vote amongst eachother on projects, everyone was +1 this with the exception of a few who rather wanted the NXT deleted in the genesis block (crack is a helluva drug) and now the day after he's like "ok lets give one person 250K and then let's just see what happens".

This is what happens when you organize the most important part of NXTs evolution in thread form. Staggering

[salsacz]

If you need any help, just let us know salzac!

dobře

Feel free to add to the Nxteam Gdoc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=9
We probably don't need slovakian translators, but still it would be nice to have translated at least some pages in the wiki

[utopianfuture]

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

Well I personally don't give a single fuck about 99% of the big hoarders, they have not contributed one bit, their influence should be zero, zip nada, fuck nothing at all.
Why the hell would we want to let those with the most NXT decide? That's centralization. They don't contribute in anyway to the community.
There is a handful of people who do, the rest are just jacking off to the price increase.

And now 250K was sent to salsacz... ok now what? How are we supposed to decide further how to spend those 250K?
And how much do we pay ourselves for our own work? NOw who decides that? It's 100% centralized.
Don't get me wrong, I love salsacz's work and have close contact with him for several weeks now, but now there is no group decisions anymore and no NXT to all the rest of us.

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

I think you should have your own marketing plan. And you are better to prepare it now. 250K to salsacz is one-off event for his/ her performance so far. She already have some concrete plans and ready to carry it out. She will have to file a report on that 250K before getting more funding.

You can either work with salsacz since she will need helps to spend all that 250K or devise your own plan. If the community approves your plan then you can also get 250K to carry our your plan.

I think it is about as good as decentralization goes with BCNext and Cfb controlling the fund for now.

I am going to issue my promotion plan soon  and I am also going to ask for support. Everyone should do the same  

Also update in full feature client page. There is a private donor award.  https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=412138.0

[Conurtrol]

I can't help but think that the goal of complete decentralization may be best served by agreeing on some initial centralization for a short period of time to establish a home website, official client, marketing plan etc..

Quoting myself from yesterday. We are paying lip service to decentralization while making centralized decisions. It's ok. It had to happen. Shit has to get done. Why don't we just agree to centralize things for a brief period to get everything in place for success?

[garcias]

http://wideo.co/view/1504591387756502643-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency
salsaCZ this video is amazing 

[Uniqueorn]

All of the big NXT holders are monitoring this thread. unclaimed coins are allocated based on NXT community, which is here. it is what it is.

There is now marketing budget. As long as each month there are nice successes, next month is funded. NXT community is smart. It won't expect that 100% of expenditures will lead to success. Just make sure each month there is enough good stuff so that NXT community says, hey cool, keep doing it for another month.

longest journey starts with first month

James

Well I personally don't give a single fuck about 99% of the big hoarders, they have not contributed one bit, their influence should be zero, zip nada, fuck nothing at all.
Why the hell would we want to let those with the most NXT decide? That's centralization. They don't contribute in anyway to the community.
There is a handful of people who do, the rest are just jacking off to the price increase.

And now 250K was sent to salsacz... ok now what? How are we supposed to decide further how to spend those 250K?
And how much do we pay ourselves for our own work? NOw who decides that? It's 100% centralized.
Don't get me wrong, I love salsacz's work and have close contact with him for several weeks now, but now there is no group decisions anymore and no NXT to all the rest of us.

THese things should've been decided and I am downright shocked by CfB's actions after having talked with him on skype just yesterday aobut this.

I think you should have your own marketing plan. And you are better to prepare it now. 250K to salsacz is one-off event for his/ her performance so far. She already have some concrete plans and ready to carry it out. She will have to file a report on that 250K before getting more funding.

You can either work with salsacz since she will need helps to spend all that 250K or devise your own plan. If the community approved your plan then you can also get 250K to carry our your plan.

I think it is about as good as decentralization goes with BCNext and Cfb controlling the fund for now.

I am going to issue my promotion plan soon  and I am also going to ask for support. Everyone should do the same  

You cannot have been following NXT marketing plans at all the last months.
This started over at nextcoin.org, I was asked to be the lead organizer for these things and I said yes. We started and the first videos, infographics, articles, bitcoin conferences, logo etc. was made/decided.
Then me and nifty had a questionaire with over 60 people filling it out asking to be a part of the PR and marketing team, listing their skills and hours available.
We started this, then when I asked for contributions so we can actually pay the workers: CRICKETS; NADA. So we lost tens of people willing to work tens of hours per week because we had zero NXT to give them.

We could've been the most known cryptocurrency by far already if it wsan't for this fuckedup philosophy that a single BTT thread is the God of NXT.

[Jean-Luc]

So we all moving onto the dotnxt client now. Trusted? Safe? Are we promoting this client now until nexerns release?

Not me, that's for sure. With all respect to minusbalancer for his work, I think it is a dead end. What's the point of having a reverse-engineered, incomplete client that will run on windows only? We have a Java server that is getting better every day, what we need is a well designed and fully cross-platform GUI for it, not an alternative implementation.

Assuming 0.5.9 is as stable as I hope it is and there are no critical bugs, my next step will be a major refactoring of the code, 0.6.0 will no longer be a single java file. Next, I will add persistence of blocks and transactions in a database instead of using serialized files, and will no longer keep all of them in memory. If minusbalancer used decompiled sources to base his .NET implementation on, he will have to catch up with my changes and bugfixes, and come up with his own solution for the blockchain persistence. And spend time and efforts tracking down and fixing bugs that are already fixed in the Java version, and introduce his own bugs in the process. I really don't see the point.

[BitcoinForumator]

A new video, a new article, a new guerilla whatever is not enough.

Go to big news sites, go to big bitcoin shows, go to big names to talk about NXT.

Does no-one realize that we had enough of videos and articles?

[Uniqueorn]

A new video, a new article, a new guerilla whatever is not enough.

Go to big news sites, go to big bitcoin shows, go to big names to talk about NXT.

Does no-one realize that we had enough of videos and articles?

We are already sending people to the biggest Bitcoin conferences and might even get a stand and speaker position at these events, but hey we got zero NXT to do it with, so we pay from our own wallet. Isn't that nice and fair?
The guys who do all the work has to pay for it too

[Anon136]

We have a Java server that is getting better every day, what we need is a well designed and fully cross-platform GUI for it, not an alternative implementation.

+1