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January 31, 2014, 04:49:12 PM
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Go, get it.

It's Friday and I'm lazy, so no.  Smiley

could you do it? if you wanted to?

if so will you tell me how? :L that 100k wud make a nice addition to my crumbs! :L

1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  
2. Form a darkNXT mining pool.
3. ? ? ? ?
4. Profit!

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1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/
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January 31, 2014, 04:55:15 PM
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how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

i tell you: 665kb / 406 kb zipped, yeah!. even if i would add a complete chart engine for AE, the size wouldn't pass 950kb for the executable.
(compared to other alt coins clients which are between 20-50 times larger by less functionality)
the client is sdi based, means only the center hup starts folded, subcategories unfold on demand. all others windows can be arranged as desired. this saves screen space.
atm i am re-composing the gui to adding a native screenshot function to the client, means every important form (like send/balance etc.) has an screen button, dumping
the whole dialog content into a clean rendered png image. here is a send funds png created by this function.

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/send-screen.png

here is a 1:1 screenshot with offense coloring from the complete app-hub (including a small gui bug) ;-)

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/nxt-hub-screen.png

the user can change the colors later via textfile. atm i am using the dark color scheme, just prefer high contrast and good viewable fonts
when acting with funds. some screens can folded or doing this on demand. the client is not ready yet but i am working hard to finish the dev asap.
the distributed application/smart contract logic took me 5 days which was planed for AE but i am simply eager to show the first real running protoype
by nxt while others concepting. with release, a fully functional quoteboard DNA prototype will be included. 
during test, the remotly executed and sandboxed DNA sourcecode will be hosted on blockexplorer node but could be located everywhere. AM is used
for payment and access signaling. not every workflow is solved for DNA, this needs a little more brainstorming but i am confident nxt will run the first one.
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January 31, 2014, 04:55:41 PM
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1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

For Java you have:  http://code.google.com/p/aparapi/

Sigh... yes you can indeed mine Nxt.

 
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January 31, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
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the fact that its THERE though.  at the very front. accomplishes the same function

No, it doesn't. It will ruin vanity generators ("NJOHN-1234" instead of "NXT-JOHN-1234") and it will look like part of a random string in all other cases:
NFKJ4-FSE5-56SF-FSJR6V
N9G7J-G2JK-L6O9-7DR7VK


I dont particularly care for the N prefix AT ALL.  but if we absolutely MUST then please just make it part of the address, with no dash.  it removes the balance of the address.

We don't have to. The prefix is optional, thus it can be "NXT-". If you prefer short addresses you just don't add it at all. Probably will be an option in clients.


I think an optional prefix "NXT-" is a little redundant/pointless.  The point of "branding" to my mind is not so that someone sees "NXT" in an address and wonders what "NXT" is.  It's for current users, I don't think it matters that the "N" looks part of a random address string, because by the time you've sent NXT 5 times you will figure out that all NXT addresses start with "N".  What this accomplishes is that people who become familiar with NXT will tend to recognize a NXT address when they see one.

That said, it seems people are more comfortable leaving it off, which is fine, maybe for the best.

I think at some point it's best if a new address format gets integrated more than just at the client level.
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January 31, 2014, 05:00:06 PM
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FC never changes... *facepalm*
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January 31, 2014, 05:04:08 PM
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1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

For Java you have:  http://code.google.com/p/aparapi/

Sigh... yes you can indeed mine Nxt.

you can, but it isn't profitable just now... and in the future when it might be, we can use some workarnounds for new accounts without outgoing transactions (like a broadcastPublickey without outgoing transaction)

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January 31, 2014, 05:05:49 PM
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Would you really want him to? Smiley

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January 31, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
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Funny thing. Lyaffe made a challenge with guessing a passphrase https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3718.0.html

I decided to simplify rules, created an account with simple passphrase and sent 100 Nxt to that account. The passphrase was an answer to the question: "I'm a big fun of soap operas and have no idea about security.". Guess what. Someone stole 100 Nxt before I even managed to post the question Smiley

What the hell? How is that possible?

It is already known that there is a bot running that checks the balances of very simple passwords. If you send some NXT to accounts of passphrases "1" or smthg, it will be gone within 45 seconds!


This is really scary.  There is apparently a continuous, ongoing attack against NXT looking for weak passwords.  There is no way to know how many hackers are doing this or how much computer horsepower is being directed towards this because the attack can be run offline against a copy of the blockchain.  Every day we are signing up 100 users on average and we are hoping to get many, many more.  NEW USERS ARE NOT BEING TOLD OFTEN ENOUGH OR STRONGLY ENOUGH ABOUT THE IMPORTACE OF A LOOOONG RANDOM PASSWORD.  Every day new users are coming in and using a short password and immediately lose their NXT just like dzarmush did.  

They do not put a happy smile after their experience.

They do not put a happy smile after their experience.  

They do not put a happy smile after their experience.  

I truly believe that one of the biggest threats to NXT is word of mouth about poor security.  "Yeah, I tried to buy some NXT, it was stolen in 24 hours, better steer clear of that coin..."

That kind of talk - and the poor security hygiene that precipitate it - needs to be nipped in the bud NOW.  We only get a fresh reputation once - and people are losing NXT at an alarming rate, at least it seems that way to me.

Some day when I am all caught up (ha ha ha) I want to start a Wiki page listing every known past instance of lost NXT and have new users record their experiences on what happened to them in some kind of table.  This is data we need to be accumulating.

You say that it is scary, but that is exactely what is happening with BTC and the brainwallet apllication. Someone created huge rainbowtables and runs a bot that detects incoming tx and just sweaps all accounts. Everything that is shorter than 12-14 digits ist just sweapt within <0.5 seconds.

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January 31, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
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Would you really want him to? Smiley

Sometimes I hope he will join the light side of the Force...
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January 31, 2014, 05:10:59 PM
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There's one guy at one address (4747512364439223888) with 50 million NXT, creating block after block... not really fair I guess, but neither is Bitcoin mining.

check in http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=100

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January 31, 2014, 05:11:19 PM
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how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

Looking good!  Grin

...change "Reciever" to Receiver and "ALiases" to Aliases...

thx smaragda, i think a native speaker has to check the language file later.
just now i am just typing the labels quickly into the language file. ;-)
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January 31, 2014, 05:11:25 PM
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1. Write an OpenCL implementation of Curve25519.  

http://www.jcuda.org/

OpenCL not CUDA.

For Java you have:  http://code.google.com/p/aparapi/

Sigh... yes you can indeed mine Nxt.

CUDA would work too, but would be slower I think.

Good thing you can PoW mine darkNXT; it's not lost forever.

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January 31, 2014, 05:11:45 PM
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how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

i tell you: 665kb / 406 kb zipped, yeah!. even if i would add a complete chart engine for AE, the size wouldn't pass 950kb for the executable.
(compared to other alt coins clients which are between 20-50 times larger by less functionality)
the client is sdi based, means only the center hup starts folded, subcategories unfold on demand. all others windows can be arranged as desired. this saves screen space.
atm i am re-composing the gui to adding a native screenshot function to the client, means every important form (like send/balance etc.) has an screen button, dumping
the whole dialog content into a clean rendered png image. here is a send funds png created by this function.

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/send-screen.png

here is a 1:1 screenshot with offense coloring from the complete app-hub (including a small gui bug) ;-)

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/nxt-hub-screen.png

the user can change the colors later via textfile. atm i am using the dark color scheme, just prefer high contrast and good viewable fonts
when acting with funds. some screens can folded or doing this on demand. the client is not ready yet but i am working hard to finish the dev asap.
the distributed application/smart contract logic took me 5 days which was planed for AE but i am simply eager to show the first real running protoype
by nxt while others concepting. with release, a fully functional quoteboard DNA prototype will be included. 
during test, the remotly executed and sandboxed DNA sourcecode will be hosted on blockexplorer node but could be located everywhere. AM is used
for payment and access signaling. not every workflow is solved for DNA, this needs a little more brainstorming but i am confident nxt will run the first one.


great news, when do you expect it to be finished and released?

maybe we should also add a countdown on our main page Cheesy
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January 31, 2014, 05:12:21 PM
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There's one guy at one address with 50 million NXT, creating block after block... not really fair I guess, but neither is Bitcoin mining.

4747? He is waiting for Asset Exchange. At least he said so.
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January 31, 2014, 05:12:33 PM
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how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

i tell you: 665kb / 406 kb zipped, yeah!. even if i would add a complete chart engine for AE, the size wouldn't pass 950kb for the executable. ...

Yes!
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January 31, 2014, 05:13:17 PM
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Are the block base targets extremely high or do I have a problem with all my VPSs?

NXT VPS Server Donations can be sent here: 6044921191674841550
At the end of each month I will donate some of them back to the community.
This is separate from my main wallet so you can keep track of them. I will keep them in there and only use them for hosting.
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January 31, 2014, 05:14:17 PM
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how compact a full featured client (inluding distributed application/smart contract features) can be?

i tell you: 665kb / 406 kb zipped, yeah!. even if i would add a complete chart engine for AE, the size wouldn't pass 950kb for the executable.
(compared to other alt coins clients which are between 20-50 times larger by less functionality)
the client is sdi based, means only the center hup starts folded, subcategories unfold on demand. all others windows can be arranged as desired. this saves screen space.
atm i am re-composing the gui to adding a native screenshot function to the client, means every important form (like send/balance etc.) has an screen button, dumping
the whole dialog content into a clean rendered png image. here is a send funds png created by this function.

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/send-screen.png

here is a 1:1 screenshot with offense coloring from the complete app-hub (including a small gui bug) ;-)

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/download/nxt-hub-screen.png

the user can change the colors later via textfile. atm i am using the dark color scheme, just prefer high contrast and good viewable fonts
when acting with funds. some screens can folded or doing this on demand. the client is not ready yet but i am working hard to finish the dev asap.
the distributed application/smart contract logic took me 5 days which was planed for AE but i am simply eager to show the first real running protoype
by nxt while others concepting. with release, a fully functional quoteboard DNA prototype will be included. 
during test, the remotly executed and sandboxed DNA sourcecode will be hosted on blockexplorer node but could be located everywhere. AM is used
for payment and access signaling. not every workflow is solved for DNA, this needs a little more brainstorming but i am confident nxt will run the first one.


Super! Smiley Thank you.

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January 31, 2014, 05:14:21 PM
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There's one guy at one address (4747512364439223888) with 50 million NXT, creating block after block... not really fair I guess, but neither is Bitcoin mining.

check in http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=100

Quote:
the concept of ‘fair’ doesn’t apply to the universe, and it makes no sense to force it. The world just is—it is what it is—and you can complain about it, sulk, hate it all you want—or, you can pay attention to the averages, to the rules that work most consistently, try to learn and apply those rules consistently, and hope for the best.
David A. Johnston

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January 31, 2014, 05:15:15 PM
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Would you really want him to? Smiley

Sometimes I hope he will join the light side of the Force...

I think you misspoke... you mean "dark side".

My response would be the same a Luke Skywalker's.

 
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