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February 04, 2014, 02:53:41 PM
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Also what did BCNext say to my proposal that I made like a month ago about him making some statements through you soon so that we get some clear ideas of what this man is doing?

He said nothing.

U should understand that plans of BCNext and plans of the community r not the same. Sooner u get this, sooner u take development of Nxt concept into ur hands. BCNext is not Santa Claus who brought u bright future. He showed the way and it's up to u if u go this way. But if u do, recall what he said:
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February 04, 2014, 02:54:01 PM
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Nexxern's client being postponed over and over
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February 04, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
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OK. So where and how I'll spend my NXT? Smiley

U'll get the answer on the 3rd of April, when I publish 3rd part of BCNext's plan.

Right now add this post into Favorite. In April u'll read the plan, open this post and get the idea.

There is a high probability that Bitcoin and Litecoin will resume their bull run around this date. Hopefully NXT will follow.


Maybe BTC and NXT will transform to BTNXT  Tongue

NXT - NEM - NAS - NFD
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February 04, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
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Also what did BCNext say to my proposal that I made like a month ago about him making some statements through you soon so that we get some clear ideas of what this man is doing?

He said nothing.

U should understand that plans of BCNext and plans of the community r not the same. Sooner u get this, sooner u take development of Nxt concept into ur hands. BCNext is not Santa Claus who brought u bright future. He showed the way and it's up to u if u go this way. But if u do, recall what he said:
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Do not trust strangers on the Internet, especially if their nickname is "BCNext".

Noone has said he is Santa Claus, for fuck sake. I like you, we have had interesting discussions about a lot of things, but sometimes I get the feeling that you don't really understand why people ask these questions.
You have inside information from BCNext. You have secured your entire future. That does not apply to the rest of us. We got reason to worry, you don't.

And I don't like how the community is dismissive of even asking these questions, as if we are some blind religion that should just have blindfaith in NXT and it's creator, no matter what.
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February 04, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
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as if we are some blind religion that should just have blindfaith in NXT and it's creator, no matter what.

Seems we r. BCNext does his best to influence as little as possible but we still ask for his Second Coming...
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February 04, 2014, 03:02:22 PM
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as if we are some blind religion that should just have blindfaith in NXT and it's creator, no matter what.

Seems we r. BCNext does his best to influence as little as possible but we still ask for his Second Coming...

Wtf are you smoking? I have not asked for him to be a leader figure at all, but as it stands right now, you keep talking about his "Plans" as if they are indeed the next chapters of some Bible and we are just diciples who should stfu until he reveals it.
That means he ASSUMES a leader position. And due to that I think itw ould be *very* healthy for NXT to have some actual statements by him.

The thing I have requested over and over is simply organization, common goal and less mystery, less politics ("I'm stakeholder therefore my opinion matters more" mentally that is prevalent here)
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February 04, 2014, 03:02:46 PM
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I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control from the community not less.
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February 04, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
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I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Exactly!
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February 04, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
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on 3rd april we will see an epic goodbye Smiley)

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February 04, 2014, 03:04:31 PM
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Also what did BCNext say to my proposal that I made like a month ago about him making some statements through you soon so that we get some clear ideas of what this man is doing?

He said nothing.

U should understand that plans of BCNext and plans of the community r not the same. Sooner u get this, sooner u take development of Nxt concept into ur hands. BCNext is not Santa Claus who brought u bright future. He showed the way and it's up to u if u go this way. But if u do, recall what he said:
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Do not trust strangers on the Internet, especially if their nickname is "BCNext".

Noone has said he is Santa Claus, for fuck sake. I like you, we have had interesting discussions about a lot of things, but sometimes I get the feeling that you don't really understand why people ask these questions.
You have inside information from BCNext. You have secured your entire future. That does not apply to the rest of us. We got reason to worry, you don't.

And I don't like how the community is dismissive of even asking these questions, as if we are some blind religion that should just have blindfaith in NXT and it's creator, no matter what.

I understand what you are saying.

On the one hand, BCNext urges the dev community for decentralization and to be proactive. On the other hand, there are these mystic 2nd and 3rd plans by BCNext. I think some people of the community feel like sitting in a box, not able to think outside the box, but being pushed to think outside the box.

I hope, some dev here can think outside the box, regardless of BCNext and his plans.
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February 04, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
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I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Exactly!
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February 04, 2014, 03:05:49 PM
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I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Exactly!

my guess is also that real decentralizations only works properly with perfect knowledge. that is really an issue within the nxt community
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February 04, 2014, 03:06:40 PM
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I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Well, we have 2 options:

1. Take current version of Nxt and keep develop it in our own way, without changes added by BCNext
2. Wait for 2nd and 3rd parts of BCNext's plan, read them and decide if we need to follow them. If we don't then see point 1.

In any case we lose nothing. Nxt already has more features than Bitcoin.
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February 04, 2014, 03:06:43 PM
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Hi here

One question is bothering me for a while: is there any plans to create a solution of accepting NXT in e-shop, etc.? I mean payment tool, like bitpay for example.

Now we are spending thousands of NXT for 1 minute on radio, while we could spend on payment tool development. Now we just spend our NXT on exchanges, in other words come like a squirrel in the wheel.

Or did I miss something?

I believe there are at least two people on this (payment module for integration in webshops). And a bounty for developing a tipping bot (on reddit?) exists also.

I'm working on this with a developer.

CfB, can you at least confirm that this effort is not in vain? Don't need full details, but if I'm investing in this, I need to know that in two months it won't be absolutely useless because Nxt will have something different up it's sleeve.

Or is this basically a reference to Asset Exchange?

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February 04, 2014, 03:07:07 PM
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Also what did BCNext say to my proposal that I made like a month ago about him making some statements through you soon so that we get some clear ideas of what this man is doing?

He said nothing.

U should understand that plans of BCNext and plans of the community r not the same. Sooner u get this, sooner u take development of Nxt concept into ur hands. BCNext is not Santa Claus who brought u bright future. He showed the way and it's up to u if u go this way. But if u do, recall what he said:
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Do not trust strangers on the Internet, especially if their nickname is "BCNext".

Noone has said he is Santa Claus, for fuck sake. I like you, we have had interesting discussions about a lot of things, but sometimes I get the feeling that you don't really understand why people ask these questions.
You have inside information from BCNext. You have secured your entire future. That does not apply to the rest of us. We got reason to worry, you don't.

And I don't like how the community is dismissive of even asking these questions, as if we are some blind religion that should just have blindfaith in NXT and it's creator, no matter what.

I understand what you are saying.

On the one hand, BCNext urges the dev community for decentralization and to be proactive. On the other hand, there are these mystic 2nd and 3rd plans by BCNext. I think some people of the community feel like sitting in a box, not able to think outside the box, but being pushed to think outside the box.

I hope, some dev here can think outside the box, regardless of BCNext and his plans.

Yup good summary.
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February 04, 2014, 03:09:15 PM
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I hope, some dev here can think outside the box, regardless of BCNext and his plans.

I see that Anon136 has enough braincells to think outside the box. Ask him to help us.
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February 04, 2014, 03:11:14 PM
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Finally some one that has the courage to stand up against the aye sayers.

my work is done here, uniqorn will take over now.

We want to see results in stead of hocus pocus talk RESULTS AND SOLUTIONS!

NXT revolution is here!

btw: CfB I know for sure you r working on a NXT clone to outpass the rich founders.
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February 04, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
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I think the community first and foremost wants features added.

How that is best/fastest achieved I don't know personally - that is up to developers who have the know-how.

If waiting for BCNext is better or if it's better to do it from community...i'm not competent enough to say anything about it.

Compent people should decide which is better.
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February 04, 2014, 03:12:08 PM
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CfB, can you at least confirm that this effort is not in vain? Don't need full details, but if I'm investing in this, I need to know that in two months it won't be absolutely useless because Nxt will have something different up it's sleeve.

I think Nxt won't have something different. The community simply won't adapt cardinal changes.
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February 04, 2014, 03:12:33 PM
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I don't think Uniqueorn wants BC to have control, he wants the features/big guns rolled out as soon as possible.

He wants the opposite of what you said - more control not less.

Well, we have 2 options:

1. Take current version of Nxt and keep develop it in our own way, without changes added by BCNext
2. Wait for 2nd and 3rd parts of BCNext's plan, read them and decide if we need to follow them. If we don't then see point 1.

In any case we lose nothing. Nxt already has more features than Bitcoin.

Obviously everyone wants NXT to be as great as possible. In it's current incarnation it would not really stand a chance against Ethereum and Emu.
The value of NXT today is reflected in the promised features of NXT, not what it is today, so of course everyone goes with option 2.

But then why is it so wrong to ask for just a little statement from him? Noone is asking for him to be a leader, I don't want a leader, but I want a common goal that the community can unite over and collaborate to make a reality. Something that drives the community forward.

If his reasoning (according to you) is that he don't want to be a leading figure so that's why he jumped off the atlas, well then he has misunderstood the human psyche, by makng himself this elusive enigmatic figure who only speaks esotherically through you, he has made the community dependent on him, because none of us know whats coming next.
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