NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[jl777]

$10 USD per 1 NXT is very pessimistic price for the end of 2014.

are you guys on crack or something - I really do not want to be a pessmist but why on earth should there be a 10b market cap for nxt in the end of 2014?

Usd price collapse
Us wont be able to pay interest on debt sometime around summer
Big domino effect worldwide outside of china, china mostly immune due to super large internal economoy of almost two billion people

Buy precious metals, crypto or cny

Only safe place for money when collapse starts

[rriky92]

Can you guys please test http://www.nxtvote.com/?

Check it out, search for bugs, for improvements and so on!


I know it's not possible to view finished votes right now. But this won't be a problem for now.

If you want i am a tester (actually at uTest)


IN ALL THE PAGE:
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 79)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 122)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 144)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 154)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 1668)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 2053)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 2152)
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[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 2777)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 2873)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 3437)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 3905)
[Warning] Invalid CSS property declaration at: * (foundation.css, line 4574)
Thing of the framework. It doesn't effect anything.

IN HOMEPAGE:
[Error] Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) (favicon.ico, line 0)
For supported browsers I have a favicon.png. No ico. I don't need it.


IN THIS PAGE: http://nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=5363210616850572902 (all the view.php)
[Error] TypeError: 'null' is not an object (evaluating 'document.getElementById("doughnut").getContext')
   global code (view.php, line 39)
Added a new feature. Should work now!


IN THIS PAGE: http://nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=1234788383141623331 (now there isn't)
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /www/htdocs/w00fc458/nxtvote/view.php on line 443 
Added a new feature. Should work now!

Looking more for logic bugs etc.

ok! will try! anyway good job! very cool

[Passion_ltc]

BIG EDIT: Looks like it works....Vote for me!
http://nxtvote.com/vote.php

Why does voting cost 1 NXT? Why not free? 

With tokens I could fake the results on my database. With the blockchain as a database this can't happen.

[dzarmush]

Hi CFB,

I think I've got it now. The final result;

https://i.imgur.com/FI2i3Ls.jpg

Aye, very similar to what I wanted. Tomorrow I'll find a better texture of slate, this one looks ugly.

Also background texture looks like waffles, especially like old school ussr waffles  

[ChuckOne]

One thing is for sure a Turing-Complete Nxt would have much more marketing WOW than 1000 TPS Nxt.

I think everyone can clearly see that fact with Ethereum.

You cannot be serious with this statement.  What percentage of people have even heard the phrase "Turing-Complete"?   What percentage of people hate standing around waiting for that little machine to spit out their Visa slip?

It's just a matter of the audience. If it's tech-savvy USE THAT TERM, it's interesting, it's new...

If the audience is Joe vaan der Average, then probably not.

[Passion_ltc]

http://wallet.nxtarea.com:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=11613767591090258913

http://www.nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=10667094504543355029

Someone voted the following for EvilDave -  "Yes, he is. Pure Evil thru and thru."


Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden.

It also doesn't matter if you send 1 NXT or 5 NXT or 1000 NXT for the vote. It's always counting as 1 vote, as long as it comes from 1 account with the required attributes.

[ChuckOne]

Here r instructions proposed by me. Only pure logic, block/transaction handling will be added later. All numbers r signed 64-bit integers when accessing Data and signed 32-bit integers when referring to Code.

Legend: C - constant, M - memory

M = C
M = M

M = M + M
M = M - M
M = M * M
M = M / M
M = M % M

M = ~M
M = M & M
M = M | M
M = M ^ M
M = M << M
M = M >> M

Rotation or shifting?

M = M >>> M

What's that?

M == M @ C (this is read as "if M₁ equals M₂ then jump to instruction at position C")
M != M @ C
M < M @ C
M <= M @ C
M > M @ C
M >= M @ C
@ M (this is an unconditional jump)

Should be
@ C
Don't like self-changing code.

Nothing extraordinary.

[iruu]

BIG EDIT: Looks like it works....Vote for me!
http://nxtvote.com/vote.php

Why does voting cost 1 NXT? Why not free?  

With tokens I could fake the results on my database. With the blockchain as a database this can't happen.

Every account has a public key. Everybody can vote by signing (or encrypting) their vote with their NXT public private key. At the end you publish a list of signed votes.  

[minusbalancer]

http://wallet.nxtarea.com:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=11613767591090258913
http://www.nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=10667094504543355029
Someone voted the following for EvilDave -  "Yes, he is. Pure Evil thru and thru."
Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden.
It also doesn't matter if you send 1 NXT or 5 NXT or 1000 NXT for the vote. It's always counting as 1 vote, as long as it comes from 1 account with the required attributes.

So your voting system works on sending money to some accounts? Who is in control of those accounts? Who will get the those money?
Just curious. Thought the voting should be free ...

[ChuckOne]

How is the script being included into the scripts-blockchain? By sending it to forgers like transactions?
How is the script being deactivated on the blockchain i.e. nobody can execute in anymore?

Who has the permissions to do what?

Like a transaction.
Scripts r executed when blocks r added to the blockchain.

Anyone can do that.

Transactions are just added.

How to deactivate a script once it's in the chain? Maybe, because it's malicious. Think just the owner should be able to disable it.

[iruu]

Should be
@ C
Don't like self-changing code.

That's not self-changing code, that's how switches work.

[Passion_ltc]

http://wallet.nxtarea.com:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=11613767591090258913
http://www.nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=10667094504543355029
Someone voted the following for EvilDave -  "Yes, he is. Pure Evil thru and thru."
Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden.
It also doesn't matter if you send 1 NXT or 5 NXT or 1000 NXT for the vote. It's always counting as 1 vote, as long as it comes from 1 account with the required attributes.

So your voting system works on sending money to some accounts? Who is in control of those accounts? Who will get the those money?
Just curious. Thought the voting should be free ...

I will use the money for the /r/Nxt marketing campaign. If the community show me a better way I will implement this.

[xyzzyx]

Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden.

Challenge accepted.

I've sent three votes to that poll from the same account now -- let's see what happens.  Fingers crossed!  

[rriky92]

http://wallet.nxtarea.com:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=11613767591090258913

http://www.nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=10667094504543355029

Someone voted the following for EvilDave -  "Yes, he is. Pure Evil thru and thru."


Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden.

It also doesn't matter if you send 1 NXT or 5 NXT or 1000 NXT for the vote. It's always counting as 1 vote, as long as it comes from 1 account with the required attributes.

When you remove 10 NXT to create a poll i will try anyway why you use a different address for each option? it's not better to create an address only for the poll and then people has to send arbitrary message with for example A,B,C? so they won't send 10000 Nxt thinking they will get 10000 vote...

In the page vote created can you hide/don't create address where there is no option? in my poll i have 2 empty option but i can still see them in the poll created page and i can see their address

[Passion_ltc]

BIG EDIT: Looks like it works....Vote for me!
http://nxtvote.com/vote.php

Why does voting cost 1 NXT? Why not free? 

With tokens I could fake the results on my database. With the blockchain as a database this can't happen.

Every account has a public key. Everybody can vote by signing their vote with their NXT public key. At the end you publish a list of signed votes. 

http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Nxt_API#Get_Account_Public_Key

You mean this? How does it prevent users from using other accounts? I'm not a cryptographer.


I will go to sleep now. Please just write things you see, think etc. I will read them tomorrow.

[ChuckOne]

Should be
@ C
Don't like self-changing code.

That's not self-changing code, that's how switches work.

Because that's how switches work does not mean it is not self-changing.
Jumping to some unknown point is self-changing and is not necessary to be turing complete, as far as I know.

[farl4web]

How is forging going to be interested when the fees are as low as 0,01?

For payment I understand lower fees are much better, and for messaging they should be almost null. Can the fee be set in defferent categories?

Messaging: 0,001 NXT
Payments: 0,01 NXT
Forging... Not interested anymore

[ChuckOne]

Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden.

Challenge accepted.

I've sent three votes to that poll from the same account now -- let's see what happens.  Fingers crossed!  

Why should it be forbidden? The more you pay the more you are interesting in the more your opinion should count.

[opticalcarrier]

I officially request that the NXTcommunityfund put out a bounty for the first person that successfully forges a block onto a simulated 300 GB NXT blockchain in a testbed setup.  Full specifications of system used and documentation of experiences in accomplishing the task required to claim the reward.

If infrastructure committee does not take care of this, i will create bounty

I like fee of .1 nxt for now, we can adjust again later

I think marketing should shift to 100 tps and this allows raspis to be useful, let moores law keep doubling our tps. Bitcoin blockchain does not gain tps with moores law, nxt does

In two years 300 gb wont seem so big

Also, nxt core is such that all cool stuff, mission critical, competitor defensive, fun and quirky, everything can be developed in parallel as long as we have the resources.

We now have nearly 1 million usd budget to be able to fund everything in parallel, plus as nxt gains value so does budget!

These are very good developments for nxt! We are discussing seious issues and ways to improve all aspects of nxt. Everyone can contribute. I am so proud to be part of NXT!!!

James

holy crap.  you guys realize that telco bandwidths do not follow moores law, right?  at 300GB even publics nodes as SP's will choke on trying to transfer that

[Passion_ltc]

http://wallet.nxtarea.com:7874/nxt?requestType=getBalance&account=11613767591090258913

http://www.nxtvote.com/view.php?vote=10667094504543355029

Someone voted the following for EvilDave -  "Yes, he is. Pure Evil thru and thru."


Seems the count is working. Double voting from the same account should be forbidden.

It also doesn't matter if you send 1 NXT or 5 NXT or 1000 NXT for the vote. It's always counting as 1 vote, as long as it comes from 1 account with the required attributes.

When you remove 10 NXT to create a poll i will try anyway why you use a different address for each option? it's not better to create an address only for the poll and then people has to send arbitrary message with for example A,B,C? so they won't send 10000 Nxt thinking they will get 10000 vote...

In the page vote created can you hide/don't create address where there is no option? in my poll i have 2 empty option but i can still see them in the poll created page and i can see their address

You don't have to pay 10 NXT. They will be activated automated.

Via AM it's getting complicated again for normal people. Also 1 or 2 NXT isn't a problem. It will only benefit NXT. Soon it will be 0.2 NXT in total.

I will remove it on the create site. Thanks.