NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[ChuckOne]

THINK BIG!

BCNext gave us a platform to build on. Like the Internet protocol when it only supported email. Sure email was useful as compared to faxes, but most people back then actually sent physical letters through the mail! How many protocols run on top of IP today? How many things can we build on top of NXT? What will be the http equivalent for NXT?

James

As much as I agree with you, you should consider one thing:

a platform without services/items/etc. on it is nothing.

These things don't come easily and won't be created by a small community. It is essential that we spread the news and keep the community growing further and further.
So, popularity is very much important.

THINK BIG!

[ChuckOne]

Also a FairyNXTless D here.  

Can someone help?

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[ChuckOne]

Regarding spreading the news: what is our marketing committee doing so far?

[tooroth]

Hello!

I need to try the AE

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Thanks!

[swartzfeger]

THINK BIG!

BCNext gave us a platform to build on. Like the Internet protocol when it only supported email. Sure email was useful as compared to faxes, but most people back then actually sent physical letters through the mail! How many protocols run on top of IP today? How many things can we build on top of NXT? What will be the http equivalent for NXT?

James

As much as I agree with you, you should consider one thing:

a platform without services/items/etc. on it is nothing.

These things don't come easily and won't be created by a small community. It is essential that we spread the news and keep the community growing further and further.
So, popularity is very much important.

THINK BIG!

It's sort of a catch-22. We need services to drive adoption, whether it's something seemingly small like a reddit tipbot or a paradigm shift like AE.

We can spread the news; marketing is important!

So we drive new users to what? A clusterfuck of a client with no services and a Nxt core with unlimited potential.

We don't even have a simple web gateway to sell Nxt-branded items in NXT yet.

What are we driving new users TO?

personally, I think James (and everyone else) need to throw as many ideas at the wall as possible and see what sticks. CfB, Jean-Luc and BCNxt are doing the heavy lifting in the background... services aren't distracting us from completing a strong, fundamental core.

[msin]

Does ANYBODY either attend or work at John Hopkins in Baltimore? Or know anybody that does?

I am projecting that NXTcash project will be bottlenecked by waiting for the new release from zerocoin. I want to have someone demonstrate a working NXTcash based on the alpha libzerocoin directly to Matt Green at John Hopkins. No promises on when zeronet (testnet for NXTcash) will be ready, but as soon as it is, I want to be able to arrange an in person demo. maybe crash one of his lectures with a solar raspi, anything.

The way the NXTcash project is setup, as soon as we get the libzerocoin2, we will be able to quickly retrace the path we took to integrating libzerocash, especially since all the client and high level parts will stay the same. This way, we can help zerocoin with finding any bugs and also providing a demonstration platform for their new tech.

PLEASE PM me if you have the appropriate contacts, preferably the dean!

James

P.S. I already have a client developer, so no need for anymore client devs for now.

I strongly believe that NxtCash will be huge, but I think the biggest hurdle will be any sort of collaboration with Zerocoin people.  I've had email contact with Matt but he has been unresponsive for some time.  I just don't see the Zerocoin guys having the time or making the effort to help us, I'll keep trying.

[ChuckOne]

So we drive new users to what? A clusterfuck of a client with no services and a Nxt core with unlimited potential.

We don't even have a simple web gateway to sell Nxt-branded items in NXT yet.

What are we driving new users TO?

personally, I think James (and everyone else) need to throw as many ideas at the wall as possible and see what sticks. CfB, Jean-Luc and BCNxt are doing the heavy lifting in the background... services aren't distracting us from completing a strong, fundamental core.

Indeed. Let the ideas flow and tell anybody of them. Be inspirational.

[ChuckOne]

Hello!

I need to try the AE

16602892760188043788

Thanks!

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[Agent86]

Does anyone think that maybe Mastercoin may want to switch to be built on top of NXT?  They are built on top of Bitcoin now and have already thought that this has some weaknesses and they may want to move to another blockchain.  Maybe down the road this would be better for them and good for NXT?  Does anyone know JR Willett who founded Mastercoin?

[ZeroTheGreat]

Does anyone think that maybe Mastercoin may want to switch to be built on top of NXT?  They are built on top of Bitcoin now and have already thought that this has some weaknesses and they may want to move to another blockchain.  Maybe down the road this would be better for them and good for NXT?  Does anyone know JR Willett who founded Mastercoin?

Such changes highly unlikely, one of reasons of big amount of existing altcoins is: more reasonable write new project than even try to rewrite existing one. Something like MasterCoin 2.0 on top of Nxt can appear if someone'll develop it adapting MasterCoin 1.0 to new platform or writing code from scrath.

[idev]

I could java -jar "Clienxt.jar" just fine from the command line; the new 0.0.5e doesn't launch for me (OS X 10.9).

Anyone else having problems with 0.0.5e?

Not working on OS X for me.

Code:

2014-02-11 23:08:20.372 java[1702:1707] *** NSInvocation: warning: object 0x107991390 of class 'ThreadUtilities' does not implement methodSignatureForSelector: -- trouble ahead
2014-02-11 23:08:20.375 java[1702:1707] *** NSInvocation: warning: object 0x107991390 of class 'ThreadUtilities' does not implement doesNotRecognizeSelector: -- abort

[opticalcarrier]

Ive never done anything with jetty web server before - anyone here have experience using SSL certs with the jetty https server?  Im using eclipse docs at http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jetty/Howto/Configure_SSL and have used keytool to import the intermediate cert and the purchased cert into my new keystore file where Ive written over the default one in the NRS package with my new one.  Also edited jetty-ssl.xml with my OBF:obfuscatedpassword as well as done the same thing for file jetty-spdy-proxy.xml

To be honest, not sure if I was just supposed to just change the passwords in those files or add other stuff.  The doc mentions adding a call names "addConnector" but when I try to add it as docs suggests as

Code:

  <Call name="addConnector">
     <Arg>
       <New class="org.eclipse.jetty.server.ssl.SslSelectChannelConnector">
         <Arg>
           <New class="org.eclipse.jetty.http.ssl.SslContextFactory">
             <Set name="keyStore"><SystemProperty name="jetty.home" default="." />/etc/keystore</Set>
             <Set name="keyStorePassword">OBF:1vny1zlo1x8e1vnw1vn61x8g1zlu1vn4</Set>
             <Set name="keyManagerPassword">OBF:1u2u1wml1z7s1z7a1wnl1u2g</Set>
             <Set name="trustStore"><SystemProperty name="jetty.home" default="." />/etc/keystore</Set>
             <Set name="trustStorePassword">OBF:1vny1zlo1x8e1vnw1vn61x8g1zlu1vn4</Set>
           </New>
         </Arg>
         <Set name="port">7875</Set>
         <Set name="maxIdleTime">30000</Set>
       </New>
     </Arg>
   </Call>

(Using my own obfuscated password in there, not the default in the code above)

Then I get java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.jetty.server.ssl.SslSocketConnector crash on starting the NRS jar file.  I also tried using SslSocketConnector instead of SslSelectChannelConnector as docs suggest; same thing.

If I leave that addConnector out,  'java -jar start.jar' hangs after reading wellKnownPeers

Any help on jetty admins?

[Damelon]

Regarding spreading the news: what is our marketing committee doing so far?

As things are still in testing, but we need people to be aware Nxt is more than the NRS client and a coin, I am currently doing a series of all new clients on nxtcoins.nl

Target audience is basically people interested in technology, also able to figure it out with some help, but not developers.

In the articles for the clients I am always referring to upcoming features, so the AE has already been mentioned in the ClieNXT article.

Tomorrow I will again make a summary, summarising in broad terms the last week, so AE will definitely be in there. Again, aimed at the above group.

I don't believe in targeting any mainstream audience right now, so I don't.

At this moment, my take on marketing is all about awareness, and not about touting the features, as we are still in testing.

I'd rather tease some people to the wiki and this thread, than promise them a fully working system. That will just backfire.

I will probably play around with the AE and report my own (non tech) findings also.

At this point, I do not know what the committee is doing. They are preparing for Berlin, and I have been away most of the week.

Also: is there a committee? Have they been formed in the last week?

[apenzl]

Happy testing!!!

FYI:

Newsletter #1
http://nxter.org/nxt-newsletter-archieve/nxt-newsletter-1/

Feedback is most welcome.

Like it very much. Well done and good overview about the activities. Also with nice pictures like:
http://nxter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/NXT-evolution-top.jpg

Thanks! 

[EvilDave]

Hi, guys, I'm on page 1635.......be with u in an hour or 2....
3 days not reading this thread was a mistake.

[Pouncer]

BCNext said something like do not worry about NXT being popular (or valuable). Build a digital economy using NXT. People will use the things we can build with NXT. NXT is like the roads, plumbing and wiring. Not really stuff most people get excited about. We need to build the stores, buildings, movie theatres, even farms (like POPPP has) using NXT. Most people wont know or care that they are using NXT, but of course some people will realize the value of NXT is related to the sum of the value of all the things that can be built on top of NXT.

So the more services we can come up with to build on top of NXT, the more people will indirectly use NXT. As a community, if we can think of things for "normal" people to use built on top of NXT and then making it as easy for them to do this, then the number of NXT users will be much larger than the number of bitcoin users. Also, it will be relatively easy to monetize any significant usage so we can build businesses creating services for people, all on top of NXT.

THINK BIG!

BCNext gave us a platform to build on. Like the Internet protocol when it only supported email. Sure email was useful as compared to faxes, but most people back then actually sent physical letters through the mail! How many protocols run on top of IP today? How many things can we build on top of NXT? What will be the http equivalent for NXT?
James

++ ''Socialism distributes the pie, capitalism expands it"

[Damelon]

Hi, guys, I'm on page 1635.......be with u in an hour or 2....
3 days not reading this thread was a mistake.

I have about a week to go through tomorrow.
Quit complaining

[allwelder]

I have a hard time believing that anything makes you overly excited.  

Believe me - if I get overly excited by Nxt then I think all of you would have already become very rich.

Give you some stimulant or girls?

[^[GS]^]

A new language, now NXTio in Italian!

http://www.nxtio.org/?lang=it

Thank you very much for the translation to Redsn0w!
NXT donation: 3815071516895411910

[Vannicke]

@CfB - or anyone who has testNXT: donate to my account : 10356543424426272552

Donations appreciated.  Also you could buy my commodity on the AE, AssetID : 10956216527757194145 mainly for testing purposes ^^