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February 18, 2014, 12:05:01 AM
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please, please, somebody, anybody with testNXT I cant test without it
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February 18, 2014, 12:06:31 AM
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please, please, somebody, anybody with testNXT I cant test without it
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hey james, tried to but my funds are frozen somehow..

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February 18, 2014, 12:07:19 AM
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allwelder,成功下去吧 Wink
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February 18, 2014, 12:12:36 AM
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please, please, somebody, anybody with testNXT I cant test without it
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February 18, 2014, 12:19:09 AM
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Subtract all of the targets on chain a, subtract all of the targets on chain b, see which number is larger.
Subtract from what?

technically it doesn't matter but probably zero would be the most strait forward.

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February 18, 2014, 12:23:23 AM
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Part 2 of ZipZap and GoCoin

When I spoke to the guys at the conference, both were asking basically the same thing:

"How is the market we attract different than Bitcoin/Litecoin"

This is an extremely valuable point.  If we don't bring in a different market segment, why add redundancy. I know some people don't like the green/eco area, that's cool, but it's a legit difference.  As Bitcoin continues to get larger, some people aren't going to be fond of the amount of resources it utilizes. Nxt should be able to appeal to that market on a mass scale.

What else? Why add us if you already have Bitcoin/Litecoin? What segments might Nxt be able to target that the others won't?


This is important, not just mental masturbation. I'd like to make contact again by the end of the week.
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February 18, 2014, 12:25:17 AM
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Part 2 of ZipZap and GoCoin

When I spoke to the guys at the conference, both were asking basically the same thing:

"How is the market we attract different than Bitcoin/Litecoin"

This is an extremely valuable point.  If we don't bring in a different market segment, why add redundancy. I know some people don't like the green/eco area, that's cool, but it's a legit difference.  As Bitcoin continues to get larger, some people aren't going to be fond of the amount of resources it utilizes. Nxt should be able to appeal to that market on a mass scale.

What else? Why add us if you already have Bitcoin/Litecoin?


This is important, not just mental masturbation. I'd like to make contact again by the end of the week.


Green is nice, but not the important thing.

NXT is PoS
NXT is a whole ecosystem
NXT is new code. ( when they find a flaw in BTC, its not in NXT)

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Part 2 of ZipZap and GoCoin

When I spoke to the guys at the conference, both were asking basically the same thing:

"How is the market we attract different than Bitcoin/Litecoin"

This is an extremely valuable point.  If we don't bring in a different market segment, why add redundancy. I know some people don't like the green/eco area, that's cool, but it's a legit difference.  As Bitcoin continues to get larger, some people aren't going to be fond of the amount of resources it utilizes. Nxt should be able to appeal to that market on a mass scale.

What else? Why add us if you already have Bitcoin/Litecoin?


This is important, not just mental masturbation. I'd like to make contact again by the end of the week.


Green is nice, but not the important thing.

NXT is PoS
NXT is a whole ecosystem
NXT is new code. ( when they find a flaw in BTC, its not in NXT)


Which is great for us, but does not answer the demographic questions we were presented.  Nikel and I talked in detail about everything you said above, while that's fantastic for the crypto nerds among us... (PoS gives me a binary chubby) it doesn't give a reason for a payment processor to add us when Bitcoin and Litecoin will already satisfy most of the assumed market. Does that make sense? Try talking ecosystem with your local mom and pop shop down the road. Smiley


This is exactly why face to face meetings are so important, you can cut right through the bull and figure out why we're not already accepted in specific services.  I needed to wait to follow-up due to client development.. now we're in a place to demo a few different types, follow-up is ready.


One argument can be we'll attract a much more technical base. The flaws in Bitcoin code also makes some sense, but that's more of a retention than attraction tool. Are there specific market segments that we could bring to the party that the others might not initially attract without serious effort. Maybe you can help me expand on those ideas and help frame it as a benefit to those organizations?

It's not about us, it's about how our involvement can benefit the company which also benefits us. That's why part 1 is about the liquidity charts that both parties really appreciated. Another is the amount of money we have stashed away for marketing and projects.. we're serious about developing and promoting Nxt (along with it's partners) for the long term. I believe that is a benefit the others can't claim.

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February 18, 2014, 12:38:13 AM
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In an effort to help this brilliant idea is nxt summarize my experience with the problem of security and key management.

first thing I did is get off free keepass program after analyzing several programs , being an open source program and enjoy a high reputation as a program.

then after reading a lot about the key generation choose to use absurd and nonsensical phrases formed by not less than 50 characters memorize words and 2 phrases from roughly 50 characters for the master password kee pass .

Install the plugin otpkeyprov keepass password and activate two factors to open kee pass with google authenticator in my android phone

the first 50 characters of a sentence and the second sentence of 48 characters to activate google autenthicator 48 characters and match the standard b32 . the advantage of two-factor master password is if you can not make all phishing password .

Within keepass generate passwords you want including accounts of nxt ( nxt also advise to memorize words and not less than 50 characters consisting of nonsensical words )

Enable tools options " change master key in a secure desktop " every time you open your account using automatic writing nxt
Enable automatic writing on the flap of each password " Obfuscation 2 channel automatic writing"

that is all
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February 18, 2014, 12:42:48 AM
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Dear supporters,

 I want to talk with you about the future of Nxt.org. I'm working with Passion_ltc together to make this website the center for the whole Nxt ecosystem.

We have many great ideas for the website, but before we start we need to talk about something inconvenient: the money.

I paid 157,000 NXT and 6 BTC for the domain. A few guys maybe are thinking that this is far too much, but I don't think so. With Nxt.org we finally have a quality domain for a quality product, and if we consider that Nxt will be the future of money then the money was well spent!

2Kool4Skewl asked on nextcoin.org about acquiring the domain. And I'm pretty sure that someone said there was a bounty for this domain.

So I want to ask you if someone knows more about the bounty. Maybe I could get a nice sum of the money back though this?

Thank you very much!

Greetings,
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According to my calculations if each one of this account (http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34)
will pay at least 30K nxt from his balance, it will be 1.8M NXT, I think its a fair price

Just give the community the domain for 157,000 NXT and 6 BTC. Maybe a little premium on top. But that's it.

The community didn't appreciate the fact that I got the name, my effort and resources...
You think that the name doesn't cost 1.8M ?
"Community" != "Customer"

I'll give you 250k and donate the domain back to the community.
I will donate the www.nxts.org and www.nxtcrypto.com to community with correct compensation. Cheesy

 
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February 18, 2014, 12:43:03 AM
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Part 2 of ZipZap and GoCoin

When I spoke to the guys at the conference, both were asking basically the same thing:

"How is the market we attract different than Bitcoin/Litecoin"

This is an extremely valuable point.  If we don't bring in a different market segment, why add redundancy. I know some people don't like the green/eco area, that's cool, but it's a legit difference.  As Bitcoin continues to get larger, some people aren't going to be fond of the amount of resources it utilizes. Nxt should be able to appeal to that market on a mass scale.

What else? Why add us if you already have Bitcoin/Litecoin?


This is important, not just mental masturbation. I'd like to make contact again by the end of the week.


Green is nice, but not the important thing.

NXT is PoS
NXT is a whole ecosystem
NXT is new code. ( when they find a flaw in BTC, its not in NXT)


I would disagree a little bit. Yes the three things you mentioned are very important, but the average person could care less about if it is a whole ecosystem or new code. They want to know how it is going to effect them personally and what makes a difference in their eyes.

Peercoin has gone a long way with the green/eco friendly angle to gain mainstream attraction. Nxt takes this to a whole new level with PoS which will appeal to an even wider audience. Once the mainstream knows who we are and what we are about they will be able to appreciate the fact that we are not similar to Bitcoin or any other alt, and the fact that we are making our own path with new code.

It is important that we show ZipZap and GoCoin that we can attract a different and wider audience than Bitcoin/Litecoin. We are in fact very different and green because of our PoS algo, which will be very attractive to them. We need to build up the data from John's earlier post and make a presentation for these guys. This is a very important step for Nxt to take to get into the mainstream and prove itself.

I hope someone will step up to dig up the data we need so that we can make this presentation to them. Who is willing to step up and take the initiative?
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February 18, 2014, 12:52:45 AM
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We did the work you guys asked for at the Miami Bitcoin Conference, now it's time to give the companies exactly what they want from us. So far we have:

- Large marketing budget
- Green (socially responsible)
- New code -- any case a flaw is found in Bitcoin
- Extremely low transaction fees
- Marketing team willing to work with merchants

** For example, we could organize a 30 day swarm push to help attract merchants to the payment processor. Now, that would be a benefit.

What else? What makes us business friendly? What do ** WE ** bring to the table for a payment processor?  Why would it be a mistake NOT to add us?
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February 18, 2014, 01:02:22 AM
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*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward.  One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused.  Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?


It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.


http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/
+1. We have post this info on Chinese forumhttp://www.nxts.info/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=137&page=1&extra=#pid371 for more Chinese nxters to donate.

 
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February 18, 2014, 01:03:00 AM
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*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward.  One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused.  Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?


It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.


http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/
we have post this info on Chinese forumhttp://www.nxts.info/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=137&page=1&extra=#pid371 for more Chinese nxters to donate.

Fantastic, thank you!
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February 18, 2014, 01:07:33 AM
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Here are the last pieces of the video interview that my buddy Leon Fu and I did with Anon136 about nxt:

What Is The Difference Between The Bitcoin (BTC) Blockchain Vs. The Nextcoin (NXT) Blockchain?

http://prisonorfreedom.com/what-is-the-difference-between-the-bitcoin-btc-blockchain-vs-the-nextcoin-nxt-blockchain/

Why Were Security Flaws Purposely Put Into The Nextcoin (NXT)'s Source Code By It's Developers?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/why-were-security-flaws-purposely-put-into-the-nextcoin-nxts-source-code-by-its-developers/

Who Are The Key Players & Programmers Of The Nextcoin (NXT) Source Code?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/who-are-the-key-players-programmers-of-the-nextcoin-nxt-source-code/

Should Investors Be Worried About Nextcoin (NXT)'S Price Volatility?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/should-investors-be-worried-about-nextcoin-nxts-price-volatility/

I hope these videos with Anon136 will help to educate new adopters and investors of Nxt.

Tai Zen
Can you add subtitles in future for non english speaking people?

I'm looking for a transcription service right now to transcribe all my nxt videos.  I know many people can not watch it because they are at work. I also need the transcription so other people in the nxt community can translate it to other languages.

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February 18, 2014, 01:26:12 AM
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We did the work you guys asked for at the Miami Bitcoin Conference, now it's time to give the companies exactly what they want from us. So far we have:

- Large marketing budget
- Green (socially responsible)
- New code -- any case a flaw is found in Bitcoin
- Extremely low transaction fees
- Marketing team willing to work with merchants

** For example, we could organize a 30 day swarm push to help attract merchants to the payment processor. Now, that would be a benefit.

What else? What makes us business friendly? What do ** WE ** bring to the table for a payment processor?  Why would it be a mistake NOT to add us?

I'll throw out:
- faster transaction processing than both Bitcoin and Litecoin
- a new crypto platform that has seen phenomenal growth and a #5 placement on coinmarketcap.com, using a whole new distributed blockchain and transaction mechanism, in less than three months since inception.  Do they want to ignore this momentum until it's too late, or do they want to take a risk now?

But let me play devil's advocate, though, because the real way to answer this question is to look at Nxt from their perspective:

They'll add it when the market demands it.  There's nothing in it for them right now.  It's too soon, and your question is therefore rhetorical.

IMHO, this is the wrong horse to chase right now, but thank you for your persistence and attention.  Build more market momentum for Nxt FIRST, and then ZipZap and GoCoin will see value and fight to add integration.  For example, support Damelon's open-source payment module project.  Once it's finished and a market is created for payment processing, go back to them and do one of two things: offer to help them integrate that system into theirs, OR suggest that they should jump in to become a market leader.  IN the meantime, keep in touch and update them on the growth of Nxt.  Build the RELATIONSHIP.  You can leverage it later.

I'd love Tai Zen to weigh in on this.  I'd value his thoughts, and you likely would too Smiley

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February 18, 2014, 01:31:57 AM
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They'll add it when the market demands it.

+1.
They will jump in when the price is right for them

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February 18, 2014, 01:34:42 AM
Last edit: February 18, 2014, 02:07:34 AM by joefox
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@jl777 and others mining the wiki for API info:

Remember that a WIKI is editable by the community.  It is a reflection of what we can glean from the core devs and other people, but we are always behind the curve and not always aware of what's changing.

I'd suggest that your tinkering with the API is a terrific opportunity to do two things:

1) Help us improve the API documentation as you learn the API by editing it to reflect what is accurate
2) At minimum: point out things that are out of date, as a practice, instead of just suggesting the wiki is "not reliable". Shame on you for that.

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February 18, 2014, 01:35:16 AM
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We did the work you guys asked for at the Miami Bitcoin Conference, now it's time to give the companies exactly what they want from us. So far we have:

- Large marketing budget
- Green (socially responsible)
- New code -- any case a flaw is found in Bitcoin
- Extremely low transaction fees
- Marketing team willing to work with merchants

** For example, we could organize a 30 day swarm push to help attract merchants to the payment processor. Now, that would be a benefit.

What else? What makes us business friendly? What do ** WE ** bring to the table for a payment processor?  Why would it be a mistake NOT to add us?

I'll throw out:
- faster transaction processing than both Bitcoin and Litecoin
- a new crypto platform that has seen phenomenal growth and a #5 placement on coinmarketcap.com, using a whole new distributed blockchain and transaction mechanism, in less than three months since inception.  Do they want to ignore this momentum until it's too late, or do they want to take a risk now?

But let me play devil's advocate, though, because the real way to answer this question is to look at Nxt from their perspective:

They'll add it when the market demands it.  There's nothing in it for them right now.  It's too soon, and your question is therefore rhetorical.

IMHO, this is the wrong horse to chase right now, but thank you for your persistence and attention.  Build more market momentum for Nxt FIRST, and then ZipZap and GoCoin will see value and fight to add integration.  For example, support Damelon's open-source payment module project.  Once it's finished and a market is created for payment processing, go back to them and do one of two things: offer to help them integrate that system into theirs, OR suggest that they should jump in to become a market leader.  IN the meantime, keep in touch and update them on the growth of Nxt.  Build the RELATIONSHIP.  You can leverage it later.

I'd love Tai Zen to weigh in on this.  I'd value his thoughts, and you likely would too Smiley

I appreciate the feedback. Actually, they've both requested exactly what I'm asking for right now. Smiley  There is so much in noise in the space, I'm not one to take chances.. I've been very direct with my communication.

I love your throw outs, great information to add.
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February 18, 2014, 01:41:53 AM
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But are we really looking to be a Point of Sale coin? It's not divisible like BTC will be, so its not suitable for micropayments

NXT has so many more features AND is not up to the planned TPS anyways, so why push for something its not?

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