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February 26, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
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We need a campaign to get NXT to the right value. With some sponsorship I think I can manage just that.

I will start up a project to attract NEW investors (read NEW money).

more comming up...

for sponsering: 12088507821025750338
Good idea.

And I have start a new thread to list and talk about the Nxt Apps,such as Nxtty,iNxt,and so on.
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=488417.new#new
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February 26, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
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But how do you calculate SHA256 with this? It only gives me SHA1 and MD options.
Thanks

Download this: http://blog.nfllab.com/archives/152-Win32-native-md5sum,-sha1sum,-sha256sum-etc..html

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February 26, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
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Final Draft Of Texas Bitcoin Conference Brochure

http://www.scribd.com/doc/209289198/NXT-Brochure-Draft

This goes to the printer in Austin in 36 hours.  Anybody have any comments to tell me I've said something stupid, please tell me now.

The website new2nxt.com is live and it's mine.  I will clean it up during the rest of the week and over the weekend.  I intend for it to be (yet another) newbie site to find info and links on how to get started with NXT.

Thank you, donor who shall remain forever nameless, for funding the printing of these brochures.  

The NXT community is full of REALLY GREAT people.

Hei Rick,

I can do some quick changes, so the flyer will look a little bit more....modern and clean Wink (speaking of using only one font, not so many colours, etc.).
Did you use Indesign, QuarkX or something else?

Feel free to send me a downloadlink of the raw data via PM.

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February 26, 2014, 09:36:58 AM
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So here I've gone back to the 1st simulation configuration but now added a new "combined best streak" which combines all the accounts apart from the last one:

blocks = 1440
a: 10
b: 10
c: 10
d: 10
e: 10
f: 50
ebfcefffcefffcafffcfedafffcfbaacaaaffffffeabafdfcdfffeffcfcfffaffdfbaffbeafeafe fbfdfbffbfdaffdcafceffcbafeffadafffafedffaccdecfabafe
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fafabffccfeffafdbfdfcbfaccffebcefefffeadacfbecedfdbbffeccbbfacbefffbffffffefcff fffdaffcebffbbfdcbefafffecfffaffaffffffbffedfdcffbfaf
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fffaffcbfcffefcaafeafffffcebafadbffefebfdfcffefffcfefcfdfafeffbbfaffbfdffafffda cffcfffcfcfbfcbfdeafffaddeffcdfbeffeceaebbfffafdfabff
adffcfdfdaffadbfcffbdcffaffbfdcaaaffefddfffffdfdbefaefcffecfaeecdcddcfedbfcbfdf dfffeafcdffeebfafffbbfacbcfffbbfefffdbfeffafffbfbaffa
ffbffbfbfffaaecdfbfcffffbfcfffbfcafeefdffdfbfafdffceffffdffafdffdfdbffbbfbfaafe edffdfffffaaecdfffffcdfbfbcdcafeeacfeffffefffffdddfdc
cfebfffbfeecdcffcfaaabbbdfbfcbbedfdfbddfffffbfddaffefedfdeffffefbcfecfcefdbfafa efafddabffbeedadffffafffffffcbdbbcffeabadcbefdffbecaf
ffdfdafcfdfbfcffdebdffabffbdaaefefffffdefacdefacfffcafecefabfdcfbffdffefeffffbb ecaaabbffffdbfeefefcbfffafffbfccfcacbffef
wins( a ) = 165
wins( b ) = 156
wins( c ) = 150
wins( d ) = 147
wins( e ) = 146
wins( f ) = 676
best_streak( a ) = 3
best_streak( b ) = 3
best_streak( c ) = 2
best_streak( d ) = 3
best_streak( e ) = 2
best_streak( f ) = 7
best_combined_streak = 10

I've again "bolded" the longest streak which now happens to be our combined one (that hurt my eyes to find).

Running it a few times shows that sometimes the best combined streak is better and at other times worse so I'd say on average it's going to be the same (i.e. "splitting up accounts in to smaller accounts" won't help).

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February 26, 2014, 09:38:23 AM
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Hei Rick,

I can do some quick changes, so the flyer will look a little bit more....modern and clean Wink (speaking of using only one font, not so many colours, etc.).
Did you use Indesign, QuarkX or something else?

Feel free to send me a downloadlink of the raw data via PM.

w4llace

Great!
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February 26, 2014, 09:38:30 AM
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Fair was not a good expression, I admit. Let's just discuss this stuff with security of the network in mind.

Good - as security of the network and blockchain are the "most important things" (I think we can all agree that if either the network or blockchain are damaged badly it would not bode well for Nxt).


What definition of security do you apply? Just to get sure we are talking about the same thing.
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February 26, 2014, 09:41:15 AM
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Running it a few times shows that sometimes the best combined streak is better and at other times worse so I'd say on average it's going to be the same (i.e. "splitting up accounts in to smaller accounts" won't help).


Boooo.

I like your approach.
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February 26, 2014, 09:42:04 AM
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So here I've gone back to the 1st simulation configuration but now added a new "combined best streak" which combines all the accounts apart from the last one:

blocks = 1440
a: 10
b: 10
c: 10
d: 10
e: 10
f: 50
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fffaffcbfcffefcaafeafffffcebafadbffefebfdfcffefffcfefcfdfafeffbbfaffbfdffafffda cffcfffcfcfbfcbfdeafffaddeffcdfbeffeceaebbfffafdfabff
adffcfdfdaffadbfcffbdcffaffbfdcaaaffefddfffffdfdbefaefcffecfaeecdcddcfedbfcbfdf dfffeafcdffeebfafffbbfacbcfffbbfefffdbfeffafffbfbaffa
ffbffbfbfffaaecdfbfcffffbfcfffbfcafeefdffdfbfafdffceffffdffafdffdfdbffbbfbfaafe edffdfffffaaecdfffffcdfbfbcdcafeeacfeffffefffffdddfdc
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ffdfdafcfdfbfcffdebdffabffbdaaefefffffdefacdefacfffcafecefabfdcfbffdffefeffffbb ecaaabbffffdbfeefefcbfffafffbfccfcacbffef
wins( a ) = 165
wins( b ) = 156
wins( c ) = 150
wins( d ) = 147
wins( e ) = 146
wins( f ) = 676
best_streak( a ) = 3
best_streak( b ) = 3
best_streak( c ) = 2
best_streak( d ) = 3
best_streak( e ) = 2
best_streak( f ) = 7
best_combined_streak = 10

I've again "bolded" the longest streak which now happens to be our combined one (that hurt my eyes to find).

Running it a few times shows that sometimes the best combined streak is better and at other times worse so I'd say on average it's going to be the same (i.e. "splitting up accounts in to smaller accounts" won't help).


I am not certain where we are heading. We are talking about the selfish-mining attack?
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February 26, 2014, 09:44:54 AM
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I am not certain where we are heading. We are talking about the selfish-mining attack?

Call it what you like - the problem is what are the implications if a forger "hides their blocks" in order to track and create a better fork and what should TF do in order to minimise the risk of damage.


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February 26, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
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Opportunity

Can someone develop an Nxt equivalent of Proof of Existence so that NMAC (and other Virtual Corporations) can register itself like this company did on the Bitcoin blockchain? This well written prospectus can also be registered and published using the same method, making it official and "legal”. It gives a greater sense of legitimacy and serves as a show case of how the Nxt ecosystem can provide similar or better safeguards for investors normally enforced through government or centralized means.

ANNOUNCEMENT

https://i.imgur.com/OPXxu1r.png

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February 26, 2014, 09:47:54 AM
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So here I've gone back to the 1st simulation configuration but now added a new "combined best streak" which combines all the accounts apart from the last one:

blocks = 1440
a: 10
b: 10
c: 10
d: 10
e: 10
f: 50
ebfcefffcefffcafffcfedafffcfbaacaaaffffffeabafdfcdfffeffcfcfffaffdfbaffbeafeafe fbfdfbffbfdaffdcafceffcbafeffadafffafedffaccdecfabafe
fefcbafafcfeffffdadcfbffbbafbfaeeffbffbefacffafeddfbafeafdfbfebfefcfffebfcadffc ffffafeafbebbefffabcfeffefbdfefcadaafedbfffafafcffeff
dfecfafbdfbfcfbdfffffdfffadbfffbfbafffedadaebafffafbfffafccaefbcabfcaffaffffcff fdfffffaafcfbfcfdcafcfaefcedcfffbfffcfafdcddaacfacdde
fafabffccfeffafdbfdfcbfaccffebcefefffeadacfbecedfdbbffeccbbfacbefffbffffffefcff fffdaffcebffbbfdcbefafffecfffaffaffffffbffedfdcffbfaf
fffbfffffebdadeffffaffbbfcfdfcffaaffffcaffeffeefffaffcecfcffdfffffbfaffffdbdaff eccfffffbfefeadffffeedefcffcdbfbfffefffafadffddbdfcef
cbbddccbffbffcceaadfbcffffdfebeaebfedeffcfbfaddcbaabccfffffaadfffffadeffffdcffffaccfffcbfdbffffcddaeeafdebfcfffcdcddffeafafbeffbfffa
fffaffcbfcffefcaafeafffffcebafadbffefebfdfcffefffcfefcfdfafeffbbfaffbfdffafffda cffcfffcfcfbfcbfdeafffaddeffcdfbeffeceaebbfffafdfabff
adffcfdfdaffadbfcffbdcffaffbfdcaaaffefddfffffdfdbefaefcffecfaeecdcddcfedbfcbfdf dfffeafcdffeebfafffbbfacbcfffbbfefffdbfeffafffbfbaffa
ffbffbfbfffaaecdfbfcffffbfcfffbfcafeefdffdfbfafdffceffffdffafdffdfdbffbbfbfaafe edffdfffffaaecdfffffcdfbfbcdcafeeacfeffffefffffdddfdc
cfebfffbfeecdcffcfaaabbbdfbfcbbedfdfbddfffffbfddaffefedfdeffffefbcfecfcefdbfafa efafddabffbeedadffffafffffffcbdbbcffeabadcbefdffbecaf
ffdfdafcfdfbfcffdebdffabffbdaaefefffffdefacdefacfffcafecefabfdcfbffdffefeffffbb ecaaabbffffdbfeefefcbfffafffbfccfcacbffef
wins( a ) = 165
wins( b ) = 156
wins( c ) = 150
wins( d ) = 147
wins( e ) = 146
wins( f ) = 676
best_streak( a ) = 3
best_streak( b ) = 3
best_streak( c ) = 2
best_streak( d ) = 3
best_streak( e ) = 2
best_streak( f ) = 7
best_combined_streak = 10

I've again "bolded" the longest streak which now happens to be our combined one (that hurt my eyes to find).

Running it a few times shows that sometimes the best combined streak is better and at other times worse so I'd say on average it's going to be the same (i.e. "splitting up accounts in to smaller accounts" won't help).


Could you build a frequency distribution of all the combined and the f streaks? I guess a normal distribution without deeper consideration.
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February 26, 2014, 09:51:41 AM
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Good advertising NXT
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February 26, 2014, 09:54:02 AM
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Now someone had suggested we don't let the winner be the same as the last winner. Let's modify our last example to do that:

blocks = 1440
a: 10
b: 10
c: 10
d: 10
e: 10
f: 50
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fcbcafbcfdfcfebefefdfafcebafcdefebfebdefecfbdfbfcebafcafeacbdefefdbfefafafaefbe dfcfececfbfcfbcfefebcbcfbafbafcbfecefcfefefcdafdfabdf
dfdfeafdfcfbfedfdfefacfdafcbfcfedefcafbfdcacefefecfbefbfbefbfeadbcedfedfdfdfbfe bfcecbecfbfafefefdfedfabafafefbcfefbfefadfcfcdafedfec
fdfefbefcecedefcfefdfcdafdfcfcecefebdfcacfefefdfaefdafcfbfcfbfcbfebabfdfefdfecf dfbadfefbfbfcbefcfcfadafdfefdfcfaecfebfeafedbacfbdbfc
bfcfacfefdafbebdfabafcfafdbfdfefafdcdbfbefbfcfefadfdacfbcdbdefefdcfcebafdfaefbf cdfafdefdfcebdaebaeabdfdefcfdfbfdbfefcebcfafcfdfefefb
dfefcdfdebfdfcdfdafdfbdfeafdafbefbcbfbfdafbfcaefedfbfbfbfafdfcbfbfdbebfcaefdefe fcebefdfcbeafeafdfcefefbfefcdadcadfdfdfbcfdefefeacfdf
cbfefefbafbfdfdfefcbfdfecfefafdfdfcdfbdfdafbdfcbfefcefdbfefcfcdafcdfcfbfdfefefd febfdefefdfcfefdecbcdacafdbafecfecfafdbfefefefefcfcfd
efdfdafdafedfbfcaecfeafdfefbdcfafebcfdbdfbefbfdfabfafdfabfdfefcfdfcfbfaefebfdcd fbfefcfbfefdebafebfadafcfbfefcfcfcadbfdfcfefcfcfbfdaf
abfcfafbfefdfdfafcfdfadfefdfecfbdfcfefdfefcbfdecbfcafeafcefedfbefcefcfbefefcdfe fcbfefbafcfafefefefcbcafefcbfbfefadfedfadfefdfdefafdf
dfbafceabfefdfcfdfafcafabfbefeadbfcfafbafcfdfceaecfefdadfcfdcefcfefefbfefcfedfb fbcfcfbafbfdefbfcbecfdfefdefefcfbfefefdfefdabafbcfefc
efcdfdcfacdeadefdbacfabfdbdfdefcfcdcafaedfefefdfdfbfdcefdfadfdfbeafbfcfcbfdfcfa fbfebfbfdcfdabeabdfbfcecacdacfceafcfcfcfd
wins( a ) = 138
wins( b ) = 168
wins( c ) = 190
wins( d ) = 203
wins( e ) = 220
wins( f ) = 521
best_streak( a ) = 1
best_streak( b ) = 1
best_streak( c ) = 1
best_streak( d ) = 1
best_streak( e ) = 1
best_streak( f ) = 1
best_combined_streak = 12

Well our best combined streak is 12 - so I don't think that the limit a streak to 1 is going to help us either.

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February 26, 2014, 09:58:31 AM
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But how do you calculate SHA256 with this? It only gives me SHA1 and MD options.
Thanks

Download this: http://blog.nfllab.com/archives/152-Win32-native-md5sum,-sha1sum,-sha256sum-etc..html
you can also try online SHA generator.
http://hash.online-convert.com/sha256-generator

 
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February 26, 2014, 10:00:53 AM
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On Linux use sha256sum /path/to/file
On OS X use shasum -a 256 /path/to/file

Windows... Grin
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February 26, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
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Just talked to bittrex, they have only 86 signups from nxt at the moment..

You should all go and sign up.

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Go to https://bittrex.com/Account/Register and use SUPPORT_NXT as the invite code. This gets you past the invite code queue. Place some trades, enabled 2FA, or try any of our other features to help us stress the site before the final launch. If you find a bug, we're handing out bug bounties as well. Having a great exchange helps us but also helps the NXT community.
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February 26, 2014, 10:03:04 AM
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Just talked to bittrex, they have only 86 signups from nxt at the moment..

You should all go and sign up.

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Go to https://bittrex.com/Account/Register and use SUPPORT_NXT as the invite code. This gets you past the invite code queue. Place some trades, enabled 2FA, or try any of our other features to help us stress the site before the final launch. If you find a bug, we're handing out bug bounties as well. Having a great exchange helps us but also helps the NXT community.


Only 14 more needed to register with SUPPORT_NXT invite code to get to the 100 needed!!!

LET'S DO IT PEOPLE!!!
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Yes,it is really useful for more people know that there is a new thing named Nxt.

 
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February 26, 2014, 10:06:09 AM
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Just talked to bittrex, they have only 86 signups from nxt at the moment..

You should all go and sign up.

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Go to https://bittrex.com/Account/Register and use SUPPORT_NXT as the invite code. This gets you past the invite code queue. Place some trades, enabled 2FA, or try any of our other features to help us stress the site before the final launch. If you find a bug, we're handing out bug bounties as well. Having a great exchange helps us but also helps the NXT community.


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February 26, 2014, 10:07:15 AM
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There must be something wrong in your simulation.

The figures skew as the larger stake holder gets bigger due to the way the math is done (you can see when I publish it) but in any case if anything it might be showing slightly "better" results that the reality (certainly not worse).


Slightly? In your simulation (A has 10 nxt, B has 90 nxt) A forges 25.5% of the blocks when it should forge only 5.5%. That's big difference! B should have much longer streaks I think.

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