Uniqueorn
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February 26, 2014, 11:15:32 AM |
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PR guys it is your turn now! Once again: a really great donation! Your skype bugged out btw.
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Choboy
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February 26, 2014, 11:15:38 AM |
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Great job mate! You helped out a terrific cause and you promoted Nxt in the highest light!
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BloodyRookie
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February 26, 2014, 11:15:46 AM |
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In your test case with 5 accounts of 10 nxt und 1 account of 50 nxt, the 50 nxt account should forge 61.5% of all blocks and the other account together 38.5%. But your code let's the big account forge about 83% and thus he creates longer streaks than he really would.
So if the figures from the blockchain are correct then the forging algo results look closer to the "log" results even though it is not using "log". Unfortunately I am not sure how to make my simulator work the same - and I am unable to "parse" the Java so if someone could work out a closer simulation we'd be able to continue with this analysis. Just adjust the code that it looks for the minimum of random number/balance instead of the maximum of random number * balance.
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Nothing Else Matters NEM: NALICE-LGU3IV-Y4DPJK-HYLSSV-YFFWYS-5QPLYE-ZDJJ NXT: 11095639652683007953
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mcjavar
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February 26, 2014, 11:16:39 AM |
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Once the price of Nxt raches $1, I will walk from Sydney to Brisbane (~1100km) and write a blog about it. (I am a fat IT guy and I never walked more than 3 km at a stretch) Just to let you know. 
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Come-from-Beyond
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February 26, 2014, 11:16:42 AM |
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Shit, that is bad!  Solutions? Maybe a DAC??? Awaken man's switch??  Dunno. Time to invest 1M NXT into development of technology that protects in such cases... 
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LiQio
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February 26, 2014, 11:17:00 AM |
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In your test case with 5 accounts of 10 nxt und 1 account of 50 nxt, the 50 nxt account should forge 61.5% of all blocks and the other account together 38.5%. But your code let's the big account forge about 83% and thus he creates longer streaks than he really would.
So if the figures from the blockchain are correct then the forging algo results look closer to the "log" results even though it is not using "log". Unfortunately I am not sure how to make my simulator work the same - and I am unable to "parse" the Java so if someone could work out a closer simulation we'd be able to continue with this analysis. Is this not related to this?: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=364218.msg4861016#msg4861016
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klee
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February 26, 2014, 11:20:43 AM |
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Once the price of Nxt raches $1, I will walk from Sydney to Brisbane (~1100km) and write a blog about it. (I am a fat IT guy and I never walked more than 3 km at a stretch) Just to let you know.  Try ketogenic diet 
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klee
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February 26, 2014, 11:21:09 AM |
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Shit, that is bad!  Solutions? Maybe a DAC??? Awaken man's switch??  Dunno. Time to invest 1M NXT into development of technology that protects in such cases...  Are you listening 50M NXT hoarders?
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mcjavar
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February 26, 2014, 11:22:17 AM |
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Once the price of Nxt raches $1, I will walk from Sydney to Brisbane (~1100km) and write a blog about it. (I am a fat IT guy and I never walked more than 3 km at a stretch) Just to let you know.  Try ketogenic diet  or try not to eat for 3 weeks 
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BitcoinForumator
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February 26, 2014, 11:26:38 AM |
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Once the price of Nxt raches $1, I will walk from Sydney to Brisbane (~1100km) and write a blog about it. (I am a fat IT guy and I never walked more than 3 km at a stretch) Just to let you know.  Try ketogenic diet  +10 * but do it right (enough fat, not too much protein, carbs on average under 50g...)
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starik69
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February 26, 2014, 11:26:48 AM |
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Very strange. On 0.8.xe versions after several hours my node always forks. That was not the case on 0.7.x. I usually forged >1 block a day but on 0.8 i got nothing  Downgrading.
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igmaca
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February 26, 2014, 11:29:46 AM Last edit: February 26, 2014, 12:01:49 PM by igmaca |
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I would like introduce to the discussion the concept of sharing fees when small account decide to use a pool for receive fees more frequently over time.
Everybody talks about "leasing forging power of a account to another account to create pools". This involves reducing the number of nodes to the number of pools.
I maintain that it is better to keep the funds and forging power of each small account in the small account node
Is Not better the concept of sharing fees if your account is successful and forge?
who can refute my idea?
Dafuq did you just say (once again)? o_0 leasing forging power of a account to another account to create pools1.000.000.000 Nxt Coin 100.000 Nxt Coin per pool John account 90.000 Nxt 0 Node participate in forging Mary account 9.900 Nxt 0 Node participate in forging Bob account 100 Nxt 0 Node participate in forging Total pool 100.000 Nxt 1 Node paticipate in forging Total 1 Node participate in forgingChance to forge 0,0001 rate forging 1440 blocs per day 52,6 Blocs per year aprox 1 Bloc per week 1.000.000.000 Nxt Coin 100.000 Nxt Coin per pool 10.000 Node participate in forgingSharing fees1.000.000.000 Nxt Coin 100.000 Nxt Coin per pool John account 90.000 Nxt 1 Node participate in forging Mary account 9.900 Nxt 1 Node participate in forging Bob account 100 Nxt 1 Node participate in forging Total pool 100.000 Nxt Total Nodes 3 Node participate in forgingChance to forge 0,0001 rate forging 1440 blocs per day 52,6 Blocs per year aprox 1 Bloc per week 1.000.000.000 Nxt Coin 100.000 Nxt Coin per pool 30.000 Nodes participate in forging. if there are only three accounts linked per poolI am wrong?I suppose 30,000 nodes are sufficient to ensure the network Now imagine if I am correct with 1,000,000 Nxt coins pools 1.000.000.000 Nxt Coin 1.000.000 Nxt Coin per pool 10 accounts 90.000 Nxt 10 Node participate in forging 10 accounts 9.900 Nxt 10 Node participate in forging 10 accounts 100 Nxt 10 Node participate in forging Total pool 1.000.000 Nxt Total 30 Nodes participate in forging Chance to forge 0,001 rate forging 1440 blocs per day 526 Blocs per year aprox 1,44 Blocs per day. 100 Nxt account is forging every day. receives fees in proportion to their funds every day!!!
1.000.000.000 Nxt Coin 1.000.000 Nxt Coin per pool 30.000 Nodes participate in forging. if there are only 30 accounts linked per pool
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bitcoinpaul
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February 26, 2014, 11:34:24 AM |
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Sorry, is it you or my headache  Could you make an effort to explain your idea a little better?
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igmaca
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February 26, 2014, 11:47:42 AM |
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Sorry, is it you or my headache  Could you make an effort to explain your idea a little better? if I'm not wrong?  with " forging power of leasing to account to another account to create pools " only node account pool must be active to participate in the forge. With my proposal all nodes accounts must be active to participate in the forge
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okaynow
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February 26, 2014, 11:48:09 AM |
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μπράβo ρε ψυχή. Mακάρι να ακoλoυθήσoυν κι άλλoι τo παράδειγμα σoυ.
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rickyjames
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February 26, 2014, 11:52:01 AM |
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Texas Bitcoin Conference Brochure Draft
Well, everyone that has looked at my draft copy of this in past pages has said it looks like some old guy with no artistic sense whatsoever did it on Microsoft Word.
Well, ah, yes. That would be me.
So I've sent the file to mvag and w4lace who have offered to help make it look better. Thanks, y'all!
I'll post their update here when I get it...
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antanst
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February 26, 2014, 11:55:09 AM |
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Eύγε :-) μπράβo ρε ψυχή. Mακάρι να ακoλoυθήσoυν κι άλλoι τo παράδειγμα σoυ.
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nxtsky
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February 26, 2014, 11:56:37 AM |
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Shit, that is bad!  Solutions? Maybe a DAC??? Awaken man's switch??  Dunno. Time to invest 1M NXT into development of technology that protects in such cases...  Are you listening 50M NXT hoarders? Why they hoard so many coins? They can't sell all of this coins anyway. From the block chain, these account(2159498187382012684,4747512364439223888,9433259657262176905,14571285356259793594) have more than 45M NXT(some of them split they account). Please sell it, donate it, anyway. The price will be never going up too far if they hoard so many coins.
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klee
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February 26, 2014, 12:03:04 PM |
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Eύγε :-) μπράβo ρε ψυχή. Mακάρι να ακoλoυθήσoυν κι άλλoι τo παράδειγμα σoυ.
+1 Eυχαριστώ ρε παιδιά, πρoσπαθώ όσo μπoρώ!
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