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February 28, 2014, 06:43:47 PM
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Texas Conference Attendees:

Please drop me a PM, want to discuss the conference strategy and offer any help.
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February 28, 2014, 06:45:33 PM
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BCNXT doesn't want it to be JUST a currency.

some thoughts  Smiley

Economics and Entropy .

Gilder creates a very interesting analogy between capitalism and information theory . The same that powers internet , telephony and computers. Science initiated by Alan Turing in world war to decrypt German "Enigma" code and further developed by C. Shannon compression for bandwidth in mobile telephony .

To transmit data , we need a channel ( cable , optical fiber , open space ) and interference-free sound , predictable , ordered , no surprises, that is, with low entropy.

Instead , the information flows must reach for it as a clear signal. For information to provide us with knowledge , we should be surprised . If the signal that comes to us is completely predictable , we will not add knowledge. Information is the raw material of knowledge, this surprises us increase our knowledge forward . The signal should have high entropy -disorder ( high entropy of Shannon) - and an orderly discourse on canal , noise - low entropy . Creativity is the foundation of capitalism. Creativity is surprise. Otherwise, planning and socialism have triumphed.

The more freedom of choice is the issuer, information - surprises - can transmit. Companies , entrepreneurs - emitting - create ideas, unpredictable , surprising, disordered high entropy . To flourish in need of a tidy vehicle. This channel is contractuality and laws , the better the simpler , low and unchanging . If the channel is unpredictable , changing constantly , you can not separate the signal from the noise. We have to distinguish between signal and noise between the word and the cable. Property rights , stability of money, the maintenance of law , order and contractuality and a very modest and anticipatable role of government to entrepreneurs to launch their ideas through this channel .

For Karl Popper, a proposition is scientific if it is falsifiable , that is, likely to raise test or tests to test it . The result of the experiment, a new company , for example - must be refutable. If the result is predictable and not contribute knowledge. So when the state guarantees results with bank bailouts , guaranteeing mortgages , businesses, etc. . , Knowledge is destroyed because the falsifiability of the experiment is lost, information is lost.

So the famous stimulus packages our politicians do not reduce unemployment and create wealth . Breaking the principle of innovation and creativity and provide no surprise , therefore, not knowledge. The expansion of the government introduces noise into the system.

Interest rates are critical . When governments manipulate an important signal for the economic analysis is destroyed. Interest rates become more noise than signal and sent false information to the actors . Knowledge is destroyed.

The regulator / central planner does not have all the information to structure the economy. There is no deterministic scheme which can accommodate entire entrepreneurial entropy , so any planned economy can succeed ( no bureaucrat can know every aspect of the economy ) . Here link with our dear Von Mises theorem and the impossibility of socialism .

Find a balance - entropy - down of markets has led to the current Great Recession. Human nature seems to want to replace by surprise . From Newton , science want to give us accurate predictions , science appears as the elimination of surprise. But creativity, even laissez - faire art - are surprise.

Source : http://www.juandemariana.org/comentario/6489/capitalismo/teoria/informacion/

Love it. From this perspective what seems to be chaos becomes order; natural order; and entropy is really just the blossoming of order in fractions to be compiled into a higher level of order.  Cheesy

the bright ideas are not owned by anyone they come spontaneously. anyone can at some point bring something to the community.

because of this i like Nxt and BCnxt  Smiley
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February 28, 2014, 06:55:16 PM
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BCNXT doesn't want it to be JUST a currency.

some thoughts  Smiley

Economics and Entropy .

Gilder creates a very interesting analogy between capitalism and information theory . The same that powers internet , telephony and computers. Science initiated by Alan Turing in world war to decrypt German "Enigma" code and further developed by C. Shannon compression for bandwidth in mobile telephony .

To transmit data , we need a channel ( cable , optical fiber , open space ) and interference-free sound , predictable , ordered , no surprises, that is, with low entropy.

Instead , the information flows must reach for it as a clear signal. For information to provide us with knowledge , we should be surprised . If the signal that comes to us is completely predictable , we will not add knowledge. Information is the raw material of knowledge, this surprises us increase our knowledge forward . The signal should have high entropy -disorder ( high entropy of Shannon) - and an orderly discourse on canal , noise - low entropy . Creativity is the foundation of capitalism. Creativity is surprise. Otherwise, planning and socialism have triumphed.

The more freedom of choice is the issuer, information - surprises - can transmit. Companies , entrepreneurs - emitting - create ideas, unpredictable , surprising, disordered high entropy . To flourish in need of a tidy vehicle. This channel is contractuality and laws , the better the simpler , low and unchanging . If the channel is unpredictable , changing constantly , you can not separate the signal from the noise. We have to distinguish between signal and noise between the word and the cable. Property rights , stability of money, the maintenance of law , order and contractuality and a very modest and anticipatable role of government to entrepreneurs to launch their ideas through this channel .

For Karl Popper, a proposition is scientific if it is falsifiable , that is, likely to raise test or tests to test it . The result of the experiment, a new company , for example - must be refutable. If the result is predictable and not contribute knowledge. So when the state guarantees results with bank bailouts , guaranteeing mortgages , businesses, etc. . , Knowledge is destroyed because the falsifiability of the experiment is lost, information is lost.

So the famous stimulus packages our politicians do not reduce unemployment and create wealth . Breaking the principle of innovation and creativity and provide no surprise , therefore, not knowledge. The expansion of the government introduces noise into the system.

Interest rates are critical . When governments manipulate an important signal for the economic analysis is destroyed. Interest rates become more noise than signal and sent false information to the actors . Knowledge is destroyed.

The regulator / central planner does not have all the information to structure the economy. There is no deterministic scheme which can accommodate entire entrepreneurial entropy , so any planned economy can succeed ( no bureaucrat can know every aspect of the economy ) . Here link with our dear Von Mises theorem and the impossibility of socialism .

Find a balance - entropy - down of markets has led to the current Great Recession. Human nature seems to want to replace by surprise . From Newton , science want to give us accurate predictions , science appears as the elimination of surprise. But creativity, even laissez - faire art - are surprise.

Source : http://www.juandemariana.org/comentario/6489/capitalismo/teoria/informacion/

Love it. From this perspective what seems to be chaos becomes order; natural order; and entropy is really just the blossoming of order in fractions to be compiled into a higher level of order.  Cheesy

the bright ideas are not owned by anyone it comes spontaneously. anyone can at some point bring something to the community.

because of this i like Nxt and BCnxt  Smiley

For science to advance, there have to be theorists and experimentalists. For art to advance, there has to be creators and critics.
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February 28, 2014, 06:59:41 PM
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New version of my Nxt client online at http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/

Getting better and better. My condolences :-)

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February 28, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
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We could help Bitventurer develop Nxt.org

IMO ,Nxt.org is suppose to be as simple as possible, and slowly lead the user to information needed.

I have simple landing page on nxt.org.my, maybe we can start enhance from there ?

p/s : Source code will be provided.

sweet & happy cryptocurrency , cheers Smiley
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February 28, 2014, 07:14:42 PM
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We could help Bitventurer develop Nxt.org

He could at least forward to nxtcrypto.org or mynxt.org  Roll Eyes as long as there is nothing to see.

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February 28, 2014, 07:18:51 PM
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Need some TestNXT pls: 8126902003572841228
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February 28, 2014, 07:22:36 PM
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automated multisig DOGE gateway alpha test release!

On the road so can't compile:

DHtzFB3XdoTSVWspvQdS3iC9c8488kGAqu
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If you could toss a coin or two in that would be great... I think I only have .29 in my wallet.
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February 28, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
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Finally got around to making a github acct.

https://github.com/jl777/multigateway

Source for get_dogeaddr.c is there.

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February 28, 2014, 07:25:16 PM
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And it is also workin on mobile, although not looking too good, yet.

Very nice job!! I would love to send some Nxt, but I am on mobile. I could send btc via blockchain, or fiat via paypal. There is a lon way to go for Nxt, but it looks promising!
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February 28, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
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People this thread is giving me headhache and we are losing a ton of time reading thing and searching the subject that we are interesting, we need really to move to a forum with nice functionnality.

Also, I lost my password to my user account at https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/ and it seem that there is no way to recover it. I have contact twice the official forum e-mail. I did not get any answer for since 11 feb. It look like the https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/ is dead.

Any help?

btc24@bitcointalk is adminius@forums.nxtcrypto, the admin of those forums.  I dont think hes been online in a month.  I have been trying to give him some bounty from neer.g but he seems to have completely disappeared.  that being said, i know hes been asked by tons of people to allow password resets by email, but so far hasnt budged.

that being said, if the community as a whole wants to get yet another forums site up and running and volunteer admined then I suppose that can be done.  And if indeed btc24 has been hit by a bus then I guess eventually the forums will break or miss payment and get shut downl i could then change DNS to the new forums if necessary.

or whatever the community as a whole agrees on I will change DNS

We could help Bitventurer develop Nxt.org

Nxt.org will be a forum?

I proposed an idea for him to make NXT.org a "solar system" for all things NXT.
All exchanges, gambling sites, merchant sites, wiki sites, forums etc.
In HTML5 I think you could have it as a solar system and make it look sleek (and I usually hate flashy type of sites) and he seemed really into this idea, so if anyone can make it happen: do

https://nextcoin.org/index.php?topic=4121.msg39581#msg39581

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February 28, 2014, 07:35:14 PM
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marcus03 got zeronet up and running!
Now we need a couple of testers. It is just for basic functionality and you need to be running Windows. PM me if you are interested in testing NXTcash demo

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February 28, 2014, 07:47:06 PM
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marcus03 got zeronet up and running!
Now we need a couple of testers. It is just for basic functionality and you need to be running Windows. PM me if you are interested in testing NXTcash demo

Give us another 24 hours to test the basic stuff first.
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February 28, 2014, 07:53:05 PM
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We could help Bitventurer develop Nxt.org

He could at least forward to nxtcrypto.org or mynxt.org  Roll Eyes as long as there is nothing to see.

will be done soon, have some problems with my hosting.

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February 28, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
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So far nobody has found any bugs. Then again it seems that nobody has tested the DOGE gateway yet.

What other coin should I support next?

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
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February 28, 2014, 07:59:24 PM
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So far nobody has found any bugs. Then again it seems that nobody has tested the DOGE gateway yet.

What other coin should I support next?

obviously bitcoin! or is it already support?

EDIT: any coin with large 24h hour volume would be interesting to be added. Otherwise, it is kind of a waste of time (for now).

Nxt official forum at: https://nxtforum.org/
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February 28, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
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So far nobody has found any bugs. Then again it seems that nobody has tested the DOGE gateway yet.

What other coin should I support next?

I'm going to be perverse here and say Flappycoin  Grin

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February 28, 2014, 08:04:27 PM
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marcus03 got zeronet up and running!
Now we need a couple of testers. It is just for basic functionality and you need to be running Windows. PM me if you are interested in testing NXTcash demo

Give us another 24 hours to test the basic stuff first.

It's so cool to run a testnet:

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February 28, 2014, 08:08:57 PM
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Will writeup a news blurb about us raising $6k for Songs of Love and will start getting that blasted out later tonight.
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February 28, 2014, 08:14:43 PM
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So far nobody has found any bugs. Then again it seems that nobody has tested the DOGE gateway yet.

What other coin should I support next?

obviously bitcoin! or is it already support?

EDIT: any coin with large 24h hour volume would be interesting to be added. Otherwise, it is kind of a waste of time (for now).
I want to wait on bitcoin until we get it thoroughly tested. Dont want to be losing BTC during testing. All the bitcoind forks are basically getting us very useful test results for BTC
Edit: TESTING is not a waste of time!!

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