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March 02, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
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from the alt coin side they simply don't have any devs *capable* of doing this (as generally they are just "copy-pasta devs").


Let's do this.
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March 02, 2014, 03:13:37 PM
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I just have my fingers crossed someone will figure implement atomic cross-chain txs out...  as far as the asset exchange goes I haven't seen too many bugs being reported...  so I would say VERY SOON!    Wink

it is already there, but none knew how to implement it correctly neither to gain mass adoption of such a change to the protocols.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts#Example_5:_Trading_across_chains.

I fixed my post!    Wink

By the way...  I have thrown some change on a couple IPOs...  if any of them work out...  I will buy 1M NXT from you!!!    Grin

Thanks, that would be the end of all my nxt that I want to sell!. And almost there for Supercell Ipo <3

dont like to post many time so I am gonna write it here, multisig for gateways are lost efforts in my opinion, focus on anonymizing communications with the gateway instead. For example, gateways behind tor using bitmessage will recieve requests for deposits and withdrawals just fine, all ppl should care about is the total sum of in-within nxt network-out, who gets what is all in the encrypted messages sent to the gateway through bitmessage.

multisig? decenteralized trust by adding more trustee? with potentially losing all stake if one trustee went awol? I honestly dont get it. please explain. Also gateways have full node using bitcoind? What year is this? Just use electrum. It is better that a full node in terms of tradeoffs, security, effeciency and consistency.

I can discuss this in length and details if the devs are interested.

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March 02, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
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it is already there, but none knew how to implement it correctly neither to gain mass adoption of such a change to the protocols.

I don't think that it requires any *changes* to the Bitcoin protocol to achieve (although you can't broadcast the refund txs *in advance* as I am pretty sure they won't get included in each node's "memory pool" but that is no big deal).

Basically *no-one has tried it* (or if they have they haven't published this to my knowledge).

My guess is that from the Bitcoin perspective it would "help" alts (so no incentive for the core devs to even bother to try it) and from the alt coin side they simply don't have any devs *capable* of doing this (as generally they are just "copy-pasta devs").


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March 02, 2014, 03:27:10 PM
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What is API call "Get Forging Deadline" about?
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March 02, 2014, 03:31:28 PM
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March 02, 2014, 04:10:00 PM
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silence. everbody tries to implement atomic cross chain transactions.
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March 02, 2014, 04:15:27 PM
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Does anyone know what's the deal with the "0" account?

Code:
http://localhost:7876/nxt?requestType=getAccount&account=0
Code:
{    "errorCode": 4,    "errorDescription": "Incorrect "account"" }

However, there are transactions that send NXT's to it:

Code:
http://localhost:7876/nxt?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=18385933678340826032

Code:
{
    "sender": "11731960900805566730",
    "fee": 1,
    "amount": 1,
    "timestamp": 3334215,
    "referencedTransaction": "0",
    "confirmations": 48523,
    "subtype": 0,
    "block": "4009116466852765469",
    "senderPublicKey": "a9d616b10e11566f92617c8e055e170922e3212e28a0a061882ecaf6c82ce64f",
    "type": 0,
    "deadline": 1440,
    "signature": "996d2de4eaa7f4d60bb89f4730059884c7ca02dab66bdac33f2f6ace44c1bc0274d5e36b5766c948106dcbd6e1dedc55c2a24c363bb0c91d4f303a9b4276b339",
    "recipient": "0"

}

...and the blockchain explorer has an entry:

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=0

Perhaps an NRS bug?

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March 02, 2014, 04:22:46 PM
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Does anyone know what's the deal with the "0" account?

Random guys are sending some NXT to this account. That's all. No one owns this account.
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March 02, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hdAnyC45ZbU#t=721

ethereum guy on max kaiser show.

Someone should tell him that Nxt already has these features. Oh no, wait till we have AE and AT running and then get Anon on the show. Moon.
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March 02, 2014, 04:26:46 PM
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Does anyone know what's the deal with the "0" account?

Code:
http://localhost:7876/nxt?requestType=getAccount&account=0
Code:
{    "errorCode": 4,    "errorDescription": "Incorrect "account"" }

However, there are transactions that send NXT's to it:

Code:
http://localhost:7876/nxt?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=18385933678340826032

Code:
{
    "sender": "11731960900805566730",
    "fee": 1,
    "amount": 1,
    "timestamp": 3334215,
    "referencedTransaction": "0",
    "confirmations": 48523,
    "subtype": 0,
    "block": "4009116466852765469",
    "senderPublicKey": "a9d616b10e11566f92617c8e055e170922e3212e28a0a061882ecaf6c82ce64f",
    "type": 0,
    "deadline": 1440,
    "signature": "996d2de4eaa7f4d60bb89f4730059884c7ca02dab66bdac33f2f6ace44c1bc0274d5e36b5766c948106dcbd6e1dedc55c2a24c363bb0c91d4f303a9b4276b339",
    "recipient": "0"

}

...and the blockchain explorer has an entry:

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=0

Perhaps an NRS bug?

looks like some people are sending both NXT and AMs to acct 0.  but there does appear to be a bug in that API gives error in trying to get public key for acct 0

http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getAccountPublicKey&account=0 returns
{"errorCode":4,"errorDescription":"Incorrect \"account\""}  instead of either a key or {} if no key
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March 02, 2014, 04:28:12 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hdAnyC45ZbU#t=721

ethereum guy on max kaiser show.

Someone should tell him that Nxt already has these features. Oh no, wait till we have AE and AT running and then get Anon on the show. Moon.

A lot of these established people don't have NXT on the radar. Or they don't consider it a threat.
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March 02, 2014, 04:31:26 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hdAnyC45ZbU#t=721

ethereum guy on max kaiser show.

Someone should tell him that Nxt already has these features. Oh no, wait till we have AE and AT running and then get Anon on the show. Moon.

A lot of these established people don't have NXT on the radar. Or they don't consider it a threat.

As this guy on the video today said: We have to make sure that we market Nxt.

Only a good product is beta max.
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March 02, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
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What is API call "Get Forging Deadline" about?

I think it is the number of blocks after which you will forge
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March 02, 2014, 04:32:51 PM
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So could some stakeholders put the biggest chunk of bounty in history of mankind out there for atomic cross chain transaction on nxt please? During this time (this will take a while?!) we should have the best community driven gateway possible, which james is currently building.
OK.
3M NXT (up to 5M for additional features) for atomic cross chain transactions.
Conditions:
a) working client for average user;
b) official approve of all three NXT Funding Committees;
c) fully working asset exchange;
d) working transparent forging in the part marked bold:
NB: The only penalty is inability to mine blocks within some period of time. They still can decide not to bother with mining, but their "hashing" power will be distributed to those who do protect the network.
Last two conditions are my conditions to stop holding investment in 50M NXT.
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March 02, 2014, 04:35:51 PM
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So could some stakeholders put the biggest chunk of bounty in history of mankind out there for atomic cross chain transaction on nxt please? During this time (this will take a while?!) we should have the best community driven gateway possible, which james is currently building.
OK.
3M NXT (up to 5M for additional features) for atomic cross chain transactions.
Conditions:
a) working client for average user;
b) official approve of all three NXT Funding Committees;
c) fully working asset exchange;
d) working transparent forging in the part marked bold:
NB: The only penalty is inability to mine blocks within some period of time. They still can decide not to bother with mining, but their "hashing" power will be distributed to those who do protect the network.
Last two conditions are my conditions to stop holding investment in 50M NXT.

I don't quite get it but it is a first step. Awesome.

Now about that conditions... Huh
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March 02, 2014, 04:41:57 PM
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Is this a troll post or what?    Undecided
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March 02, 2014, 04:42:09 PM
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<snip> ...but there does appear to be a bug in that API gives error in trying to get public key for acct 0

Yes, probably it's a bug. Filed.

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March 02, 2014, 04:42:21 PM
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So could some stakeholders put the biggest chunk of bounty in history of mankind out there for atomic cross chain transaction on nxt please? During this time (this will take a while?!) we should have the best community driven gateway possible, which james is currently building.
OK.
3M NXT (up to 5M for additional features) for atomic cross chain transactions.
Conditions:
a) working client for average user;
b) official approve of all three NXT Funding Committees;
c) fully working asset exchange;
d) working transparent forging in the part marked bold:
NB: The only penalty is inability to mine blocks within some period of time. They still can decide not to bother with mining, but their "hashing" power will be distributed to those who do protect the network.
Last two conditions are my conditions to stop holding investment in 50M NXT.

Is this a troll post or what?    Undecided

Can the amount of NXT for the bounty be transfer to the NXT Funding Committees? People can't start working on such a large project without be sure that the bounty actually exist.

But if this is true, then this is a GREAT new.

Nxt official forum at: https://nxtforum.org/
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March 02, 2014, 04:47:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hdAnyC45ZbU#t=721

ethereum guy on max kaiser show.

Someone should tell him that Nxt already has these features. Oh no, wait till we have AE and AT running and then get Anon on the show. Moon.

A lot of these established people don't have NXT on the radar. Or they don't consider it a threat.

As this guy on the video today said: We have to make sure that we market Nxt.

Only a good product is beta max.

They talk about actus

https://web.stevens.edu/hfslwiki/index.php?title=ACTUS

Contents [hide]
1 1. How to Compile ACTUS Code
2 2. ACTUS Dual License Model
2.1 2.1 Open Source License: For Open Source Projects and Other Developers of Open Source Applications
2.2 2.2 Commercial License: For OEMs, ISVs, VARs and Other Distributors of Commercial Applications:
3 3. Training
3.1 3.1 Unified Financial Analysis
3.2 3.2 ACTUS Academy
3.2.1 3.2.1 Basic Training
3.2.2 3.2.2 Advanced Issues
4 4. Features
4.1 4.1 Principal At Maturity (PAM)
4.2 4.2 Annuity (ANN)
4.3 4.3 Stock (STK)
4.4 4.4 Future (Futur)
4.5 4.5 Swap (SWAP)
4.6 4.6 Option (OPTNS)
5 5. Website Functionality and Architecture
6 6. Marketing and Branding
7 7. ACTUS Documentation
8 8. FAQs
8.1 8.1 What license do I need?
8.2 8.2 How to set up my database?
8.3 8.3 How to create a user in MySQL?
8.4 8.4 How to create a new connection from MySQL?
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March 02, 2014, 04:48:16 PM
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Can the amount of NXT for the bounty be transfer to the NXT Funding Committees? People can't start working on such a large project without be sure that the bounty actually exist.

Only after both c) and d) conditions.
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