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May 22, 2013, 06:49:41 AM
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Smiley Smiley Hope so much you are right. It will help me to use my life more for others, that I think it's the best reward in life.

Same.
Would you be interested in working together on stuff? Over the next few months I want to try to get a group together that puts like 10% of its devtome earnings towards certain projects together Smiley

I do not have devtome earnings, but I am interested in contributing to worthwhile projects which is beneficial for the community.

Well, once I get my earnings I will be starting such projects.
First is a thread that pays you to post, in Devcoin.

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May 22, 2013, 07:02:13 AM
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So, what is the maximum number of DVC ever to be mined (like 20 million for BTC) ? I searched for the answer, but it seems confusing. The official sites say that it is 21 billion (1000X number of BTC), but now I hear it is unlimited - is that true ? Did the software get changed sometime after first release ?

I think 21,000,000,000
So it's 1/1000th the value of BTC. So it should be 10 cents each one day Smiley Or more if BTC goes up in value Smiley

I actually understood that DVC is not limited in number of future DVC. Could a Dev confirm what the right answer is?

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May 22, 2013, 07:06:56 AM
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So, what is the maximum number of DVC ever to be mined (like 20 million for BTC) ? I searched for the answer, but it seems confusing. The official sites say that it is 21 billion (1000X number of BTC), but now I hear it is unlimited - is that true ? Did the software get changed sometime after first release ?

I think 21,000,000,000
So it's 1/1000th the value of BTC. So it should be 10 cents each one day Smiley Or more if BTC goes up in value Smiley

I actually understood that DVC is not limited in number of future DVC. Could a Dev confirm what the right answer is?

Based on this link: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Devcoin

The following constant changes were made to ensure 3 decimal (1000X) precision shift over BTC, and this says max coin count as 21 billion:

//static const int64 MIN_TX_FEE = 50000;
static const int64 MIN_TX_FEE = 50000000;
//static const int64 MIN_RELAY_TX_FEE = 10000;
static const int64 MIN_RELAY_TX_FEE = 10000000;
//static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 21000000 * COIN;
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 21000000000 * COIN;

What am I missing ?
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May 22, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
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ALTcoinTIP goes live on reddit, but it doesn't include Devcoin because there was a problem with devcoind: http://www.reddit.com/r/ALTcointip/comments/1esl7u/altcointip_bot_now_live/ca3mq2w

Can we help him to investigate and fix the problem?

Is there a bounty for things like altcointip devcoin support?

(I understand that general idea is that bounties go for open source things, but on the other hand cryptostocks got bounty even though it isn't open source so apparently it depends.)

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May 22, 2013, 02:51:38 PM
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Thank you Mjbmonetarymetals for sponsoring the extra DVB dividends for round 22 Smiley
(Extra Dividends are donations of generous Donors, beside the regual weekly dividend payment. The actual funds are paid trough DVB when they usualy reach 100k DVC every 2. Day till the end of round 22).
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May 22, 2013, 04:15:47 PM
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21.000.000.000 in less then 9 years (7 remaining).
Final value=~ 1/1000 Bitcoin


What will be with DVC project after reaching this point? I mean DVC payments to developers requires to get 80% from mining, don't they? But when all coins will be mine how can be coins distributed among developers?

I'd say at that point maybe a new coin gets made, or the developers use the coins they've been earning for the past year Smiley

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May 22, 2013, 04:16:54 PM
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When devcoin will reach 1c many will be already selling out thier coins, while many will start buying because they will see this coin coming out from the "death zone". The increased mining and difficulty will, along with increased numbers of writers and developers, eventually trasform the coin in a real currency. There is point of no return, a sparkle starting the engine. It is waited within 2 years, maybe less.
My guess? March 2014.

I really think if we work on getting people's attention(and of course getting boutnies completed) it can be this year Smiley

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May 22, 2013, 05:05:42 PM
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I see you so positive. I admire you for this.
I normally keep my expectations low. You know the saying: don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
I don't count my chickens before they're on my dish.
 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Well, I already have the chickens.
I have trolls all over the internet (especially on weed forums) that will automatically comment on anything I say, just to argue or talk shit because I've been sharing things online since I was 19, and trolls don't like when people with no money share ideas.

So I basically just have to talk about Devcoin, and suddenly thousands of new people will know about it. And I haven't even started yet.
I've done it on this site, but I'm new here, there are sites I've been on for 2 years+

And I have a fairly large YouTube audience, at least better than most people on any YouTube forum, and same with Facebook.

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May 22, 2013, 05:07:34 PM
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I see you so positive. I admire you for this.
I normally keep my expectations low. You know the saying: don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
I don't count my chickens before they're on my dish.
 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Well, I already have the chickens.
I have trolls all over the internet (especially on weed forums) that will automatically comment on anything I say, just to argue or talk shit because I've been sharing things online since I was 19, and trolls don't like when people with no money share ideas.

So I basically just have to talk about Devcoin, and suddenly thousands of new people will know about it. And I haven't even started yet.
I've done it on this site, but I'm new here, there are sites I've been on for 2 years+

And I have a fairly large YouTube audience, at least better than most people on any YouTube forum, and same with Facebook.

Ex: when I tell people on Rollitup.org that I am earning money on Devtome, there will be about 3 pages of 40 comments per page in 1 day, then tons of traffic to Devtome. And if I add a video in the article, it will get 30-50 views the first day just from Rollitup

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May 22, 2013, 05:17:04 PM
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I admire your guys' dedication on spreading the word on Devcoin, but how about some actual dev work being put into it to address ongoing issues? I think that'd help Devcoin a lot more than hyping it up on the forums and getting people to panic buy/sell them. Amirite?

For example, it'd be nice to have ALTcointip bot on Reddit support Devcoin, but as poster above said, Devcoin client seems to have issues running on Ubuntu. If this is a real issue stopping everyone from using Devcoin, then it's pretty much useless because it'll never be adopted into any system.

Any real devs willing to take this on and try to resolve the issue? Or is this a speculators thread? Wink

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May 22, 2013, 05:19:32 PM
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I admire your guys' dedication on spreading the word on Devcoin, but how about some actual dev work being put into it to address ongoing issues? I think that'd help Devcoin a lot more than hyping it up on the forums and getting people to panic buy/sell them. Amirite?

For example, it'd be nice to have ALTcointip bot on Reddit support Devcoin, but as poster above said, Devcoin client seems to have issues running on Ubuntu. If this is a real issue stopping everyone from using Devcoin, then it's pretty much useless because it'll never be adopted into any system.

Any real devs willing to take this on and try to resolve the issue? Or is this a speculators thread? Wink

The whole point of getting more attention is to get more people involved, so that we have more ideas flowing and more people working on stuff

And to get more money in Devcoin so Devtomers can afford the projects in the first place.

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May 22, 2013, 05:23:12 PM
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So, what is the maximum number of DVC ever to be mined (like 20 million for BTC) ? I searched for the answer, but it seems confusing. The official sites say that it is 21 billion (1000X number of BTC), but now I hear it is unlimited - is that true ? Did the software get changed sometime after first release ?

The maximum number of coins in any on e wallet or address or in general any arithmetic/total, but coins will keep gettign created, 50,000 per block, forever. So some century or other maybe larger than 64 bit integers will have to start being use if more than 21 billion ever need to be added up in any one arithmetic operation.

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May 22, 2013, 05:25:01 PM
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Thanxs for the encouraging answer.
Let me go back to my writing, you are putting me in a wholesome hurry.
Greetings to your chickens.

Don't worry, I'm going to wait till next round to post on Rollitup and make tons of videos. I'm gonna make like 1-3 DVC videos this round, and focus on BTC videos.

Then next round I'll just start pumping out DVC info all over the web, making tons of videos, and handing out free shit Smiley

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May 22, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
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Devcoin client seems to have issues running on Ubuntu. If this is a real issue stopping everyone from using Devcoin, then it's pretty much useless because it'll never be adopted into any system.

I even tried going back over previous whole page of posts be see nothing about Ubuntu at all.

I use Fedora, I understood that the normal makefile.unix that coins all come with was one that works as is in Ubunto without needing customising like I have to do in Fedora. So I thought they all work easier on Ubuntu than they do for me.

But without explicit version and error message and all that even an Ubuntu expert isn't likely be be able to do much. Unless somehow they come across a problem themselves, whereupon hopefully they'd fix it themselves and submit a pull request with the fix.

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May 22, 2013, 05:45:04 PM
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Thanxs for the encouraging answer.
Let me go back to my writing, you are putting me in a wholesome hurry.
Greetings to your chickens.

Don't worry, I'm going to wait till next round to post on Rollitup and make tons of videos. I'm gonna make like 1-3 DVC videos this round, and focus on BTC videos.

Then next round I'll just start pumping out DVC info all over the web, making tons of videos, and handing out free shit Smiley

What type of videos, is that the kind of work you do ?

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May 22, 2013, 05:47:40 PM
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Thanxs for the encouraging answer.
Let me go back to my writing, you are putting me in a wholesome hurry.
Greetings to your chickens.

Don't worry, I'm going to wait till next round to post on Rollitup and make tons of videos. I'm gonna make like 1-3 DVC videos this round, and focus on BTC videos.

Then next round I'll just start pumping out DVC info all over the web, making tons of videos, and handing out free shit Smiley

What type of videos, is that the kind of work you do ?

Yeah, I make videos, take pictures, and write.

I'm going to make stuff informing people about bounties, the old price of DVC/current price of DVC and how it can get there again but meaningfully this time, How to register on Devtome, how Devtome earnings work, new projects that come up (like the Dev AdSense) etc.

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May 22, 2013, 06:56:08 PM
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I even tried going back over previous whole page of posts be see nothing about Ubuntu at all.

Mention of Ubuntu is in reddit comment:

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I did try, but devcoind process that I started on the server ended up consuming too much CPU and ultimately crashing. I think the latest release is either broken or doesn't work well under Ubuntu 12.04.

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I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu server 12.04 and I was using the Devcoin binaries provided on Sourceforge. I also tried compiling it from sources on Github but ran into compiler errors (wasn't missing dependencies)... Main issue is high CPU usage, while all other coin daemons are fine..

This is what prevents Devcoin support in ALTcointip on reddit.

bitcointip is basically a web wallet for reddit users, with one twist: it is possible to pay coins just by adding one line to your comment like "+tip 0.1 BTC", and it is possible to pay that way even to a person who haven't yet created a wallet. So this helps to spread the word a lot. You know, when person receives a tip cryptocurrency isn't just a weird concept anymore.

ALTcointip is the same thing, but for alt-coins.

I think it would be cool to pay developers with devcoins, so it's a pitty that we can't get that working because of problems with devcoind.

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I even tried going back over previous whole page of posts be see nothing about Ubuntu at all.

Mention of Ubuntu is in reddit comment:

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I did try, but devcoind process that I started on the server ended up consuming too much CPU and ultimately crashing. I think the latest release is either broken or doesn't work well under Ubuntu 12.04.

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I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu server 12.04 and I was using the Devcoin binaries provided on Sourceforge. I also tried compiling it from sources on Github but ran into compiler errors (wasn't missing dependencies)... Main issue is high CPU usage, while all other coin daemons are fine..

This is what prevents Devcoin support in ALTcointip on reddit.

bitcointip is basically a web wallet for reddit users, with one twist: it is possible to pay coins just by adding one line to your comment like "+tip 0.1 BTC", and it is possible to pay that way even to a person who haven't yet created a wallet. So this helps to spread the word a lot. You know, when person receives a tip cryptocurrency isn't just a weird concept anymore.

ALTcointip is the same thing, but for alt-coins.

I think it would be cool to pay developers with devcoins, so it's a pitty that we can't get that working because of problems with devcoind.

Sorry but this is misleading, devcoin works well on Ubuntu 12.04 X64 i didnt had a problem to compile and run version 32501. Devcoind runs here with minimal cpu and 185.6 mb ram usage. Of course thats different douring blockchain load at the beginning.

Code:
sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev libglib2.0-dev libglibmm-2.4-dev libboost-all-dev libdb-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libwxgtk2.8-dev  

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May 22, 2013, 07:54:52 PM
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I think nobody can for sure know the future. Think for example of Fuzzybear. He is a great supporter of Devcoin, but he is leading a forum about ppcoin on ppcointalk.org.
This means that, yes, there are good chances for devcoin. But think: even one of the main supporter do not rely entirely on devcoin. It tells me: nothing is certain, better spread the risk. If not so, someone like Fuzzybear would spend all the time supporting only Devcoin.
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That means nothing. I plan on making BBQ coin videos, BitBar videos and tons of other kinds of videos.
I am not soley relying on Devcoin either, I just believe in the projects it proposes, and I see how it can help get them done Smiley

I think once I start using my coins to promote devcoin (once I get paid in june, because I literally only have like 1 btc or less in ALL coins right now) other people that have coins (possibly some of the people who have been writing and mining for near 2 years) will spend their coins on things like I do. People just have to see things happen so they know it works Smiley

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May 22, 2013, 07:58:01 PM
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I even tried going back over previous whole page of posts be see nothing about Ubuntu at all.

Mention of Ubuntu is in reddit comment:

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I did try, but devcoind process that I started on the server ended up consuming too much CPU and ultimately crashing. I think the latest release is either broken or doesn't work well under Ubuntu 12.04.

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I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu server 12.04 and I was using the Devcoin binaries provided on Sourceforge. I also tried compiling it from sources on Github but ran into compiler errors (wasn't missing dependencies)... Main issue is high CPU usage, while all other coin daemons are fine..

This is what prevents Devcoin support in ALTcointip on reddit.

bitcointip is basically a web wallet for reddit users, with one twist: it is possible to pay coins just by adding one line to your comment like "+tip 0.1 BTC", and it is possible to pay that way even to a person who haven't yet created a wallet. So this helps to spread the word a lot. You know, when person receives a tip cryptocurrency isn't just a weird concept anymore.

ALTcointip is the same thing, but for alt-coins.

I think it would be cool to pay developers with devcoins, so it's a pitty that we can't get that working because of problems with devcoind.

Sorry but this is misleading, devcoin works well on Ubuntu 12.04 X64 i didnt had a problem to compile and run version 32501. Devcoind runs here with minimal cpu and 185.6 mb ram usage. Of course thats different douring blockchain load at the beginning.

Code:
sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev libglib2.0-dev libglibmm-2.4-dev libboost-all-dev libdb-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libwxgtk2.8-dev  

I was able to compile devcoind-29-Nov-2012.tgz just like I had to compile Terracoin (I think), but unlike other coin daemons (I'm running 5 of them), devcoind didn't play nice - it literally caused the system to come to screeching halt, with ssh prompt lagging, and then OOM killer taking it out. That's on a system with 2 GB of RAM (it's a VPS, so I can't afford any bigger).

I'll give it another try, compiling devcoind-29-Nov-2012.tgz from scratch and running it to see what happens. Maybe devcoind-29-Nov-2012.tgz is the wrong version to use? That's what the website instructing everyone to download, so I'd assume it's stable.

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