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What I am saying is the money's value is based on the backing society gives to it that is the faith part, you have to belive society would keep using that money.  Or, You just have to keep developing things society wants, and back it with the coin like shares. Since this coin is limitless it could become the "Solar System Coin" suggested in another thread.
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May 22, 2013, 11:34:27 PM |
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Again I am not saying it is not useful to have this coin, I am just stating the properties of other currencies through history. I mean currency is not by any chance a new invention. Actually history shows there are several civilizations which add to different attempts to invent different kinds of money
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May 22, 2013, 11:35:09 PM |
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Again I am not saying it is not useful to have this coin, I am just stating the properties of other currencies through history. I mean currency is not by any chance a new invention. Actually history shows there are several civilizations which add to different attempts to invent different kinds of money
And some traded seashells, which are basically infinite.
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May 22, 2013, 11:38:02 PM |
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Just so everyone knows, the BEST way to raise the value of Devcoin is to offer things for sale in exchange for devcoin. If people need devcoins to buy something, devcoin has value.
And if you invent something, only sell it in exchange for devcoins first.
I plan on working towards building solar/wind mining rigs and ASIC miners that can be sold for DVC.
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May 22, 2013, 11:38:44 PM |
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And some traded seashells, which are basically infinite. Yes there are many examples, and we can apply past experiences to new projects
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May 22, 2013, 11:49:31 PM |
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I'm going to try to make a way for kids to earn Devcoin. I remember when I was a kid (like 14-17), I used to search for "How to make money online" all the time.
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May 23, 2013, 12:05:35 AM |
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Any real devs willing to take this on and try to resolve the issue? Or is this a speculators thread?  I spent some time in April trying to improve the new user startup experience. I put the builds up the start of this month, and they have had a few hundred downloads, and I have not had any issues reported yet. https://www.box.com/s/1mqfk22gyqq97ytdmifi
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May 23, 2013, 12:14:54 AM |
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Devcoin follows eastern tradition... "Once you can see the mala as more spectacular than gold, you win at life."
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May 23, 2013, 12:59:44 AM Last edit: May 23, 2013, 02:01:22 AM by Vlad2Vlad |
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I really need some help.
I had 1,000,000 devcoins on one of my computer's C drives and I wanted to transfer it to a different G drive so I could keep that drive unplugged (hot swappable) just for added security. So I cut and paste my entire user file from C to G cause I wanted to make sure everything was copied over.
Problem was some files would not transfer saying they were in use even though I closed everything that had to do with devcoin. some of these files were log files and some dat files. I think what happed was the wallet.dat file didn't transfer over cause when I tried to pull up the wallet in the G drive my entire 1 million coins were gone. I paid $400 for these coins 2 weeks ago so this is costing more than that desktop is worth.
so then I realized the mistake I made and saw that the wallet.dat file was still on the C drive because I did NOT delete anything. So I then copied and pasted everything from G back to C hoping it would just combine everything missing with everything that got left over.
But no, when I open the devcoin wallet it's a totally new wallet with different address and my previous addresses are gone and so is the 1,000,000 devcoins
I didn't delete anything so the coins have to be on there somewhere. Can anybody help me out. I really don't wanna lose this many coins. Thanks.
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May 23, 2013, 01:35:13 AM |
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I really need some help.
I had 1,000,000 devcoins on one of my computer's C drives and I wanted to transfer it to a different G drive so I could keep that drive unplugged (hot swappable) just for added security. So I cut and paste my entire user file from C to G cause I wanted to make sure everything was copied over.
Problem was some files would not transfer saying they were in use even though I closed everything that had to do with devcoin. some of these files were log files and some dat files. I think what happed was the wallet.dat file didn't transfer over cause when I tried to pull up the wallet in the G drive my entire 1 million coins were gone. I paid $400 for these coins 2 weeks ago so this is costing more than that desktop is worth.
so then I realized the mistake I made and saw that the wallet.dat file was still on the C drive because I did NOT delete anything. So I then copied and pasted everything from G back to C hoping it would just combine everything missing with everything that got left over.
But no, when I open the devcoin wallet it's a totally new wallet with different address and my previous addresses are gone and so is the 1,000,000 devcoins
I didn't delete anything so the coins have to be on there somewhere. Can anybody help me out. I really don't wanna lose this many coins. Thanks.
I would check the recycle bin.
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May 23, 2013, 01:42:17 AM |
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If you have the wallet.dat you are safe.
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May 23, 2013, 01:51:40 AM |
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If you have the wallet.dat you are safe.
That's what i'm thinking but I don't think they're connecting. So I tried to copy the wallet.dat file and directly paste it on top of the devcoin client thinking maybe it wasn't finding it and then I get an error saying to change the password to <password> and it gives me a path to follow but when I get to appdata it's not there. appdata part of the path so I can't get to devcoin to change the password in order to manually add the wallet.dat file. I think it's all messed up so that's probably why it created a new wallet with different receiver wallet numbers than what I had.  Well, if devcoin ever gets up there in price then it will be worth to hire someone to come in and find it. cause right now I'm more likely to mess it up worse. I tried to restore from an earlier session but there are none, I just this old server 2 weeks ago and installed windows 7 pro so there's no back up yet which would have probably worked.
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May 23, 2013, 01:53:48 AM |
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thanks but I didn't delete anything. I only cut and pasted and what didn't transfer I clicked on skip so it left those files on C and I can see all the receiver files and dat files are still on C. So it only transferred the bigger files from the devcoin client. I guess those smaller files were opened even though I closed the client.
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May 23, 2013, 02:14:45 AM Last edit: May 23, 2013, 02:27:16 AM by twobits |
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I had 1,000,000 devcoins on one of my computer's C drives and I wanted to transfer it to a different G drive so I could keep that drive unplugged (hot swappable) just for added security. So I cut and paste my entire user file from C to G cause I wanted to make sure everything was copied over.
cut is a deleting operation Problem was some files would not transfer saying they were in use even though I closed everything that had to do with devcoin. some of these files were log files and some dat files. I think what happed was the wallet.dat file didn't transfer over cause when I tried to pull up the wallet in the G drive my entire 1 million coins were gone. I paid $400 for these coins 2 weeks ago so this is costing more than that desktop is worth.
I would guess you did not actually close devcoin, but minimized it to the tray. So locked files did not get copied over. When you ran it off of G it could not find a wallet.dat and so made a new one. so then I realized the mistake I made and saw that the wallet.dat file was still on the C drive because I did NOT delete anything. So I then copied and pasted everything from G back to C hoping it would just combine everything missing with everything that got left over.
copy is not a combining operation, at this point the filesystem replaced your c wallet.dat with the one you just told it to copy from G that was newly made it seems. But no, when I open the devcoin wallet it's a totally new wallet with different address and my previous addresses are gone and so is the 1,000,000 devcoins
I didn't delete anything so the coins have to be on there somewhere. Can anybody help me out. I really don't wanna lose this many coins. Thanks.
you did both an attempted delete with the cut, and you overwrote any existing wallet.dat left if that failed when you copied back from G. So yeah, you did delete and overwrite things. At this point you should have turned off the computer and not let anything else be written to the drives. Now, you would take them out and run a program that searched for bdb patterns and key patterns, in the hope that at the raw sector level the data was left, and it reallocated things. If not and it is a magnetic drive you have a slim chance a consumer grade data recovery place can get to it, very slim. If is is ssd there are some other tricks to try, but also pretty expensive to have done. I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.
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May 23, 2013, 02:59:14 AM |
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.. I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.
I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone. What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million. If you agree to this, please message me a new address.
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May 23, 2013, 03:12:32 AM |
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.. I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.
I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone. What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million. If you agree to this, please message me a new address. I will kick in 100,000 DVC to your "I broke my wallet." fund also.
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May 23, 2013, 03:16:49 AM |
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.. I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.
I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone. What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million. If you agree to this, please message me a new address. I will kick in 100,000 DVC to your "I broke my wallet." fund also. I'll kick in the 143,713 Unthinkingbit's proposal would have you sending to me in my capacity as a file administrator. (That is, don't bother sending me the 143,713.) -MarkM-
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May 23, 2013, 03:45:07 AM |
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.. I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.
I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone. What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million. If you agree to this, please message me a new address. I will kick in 100,000 DVC to your "I broke my wallet." Fund also. No Worries, whats the Address of the "I broke my wallet." Fund ? Lets throw some DVC-Love at it 
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