[ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014

[coinflow]

Another thought is that if we are not sure about how this modified wallet interacts with the existing ones, maybe it shouldn't be offered for download as to not cause confusion. It would be great to have the exact original wallet for download. The only major change that it really needs is an installation wrapper. It's been a while but I think nullsoft has a nice easy to use one. There are many people that don't know what to do with software that doesn't have an installer...http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Download

On the site above http://mooncoin.rocks, it still IS the original one.
We are only thinking about the future now here. Because deaconboogie seemingly does not. Edit 3: Or at least doesn't let us know about that.

Edit: What for is the installation-wrapper really needed? The .exe itself works flawlessly. But the random rewards don't.
Edit 2: An installation-wrapper would be a nice addon, but can lead to new problems, for example when using different paths for the files that are saved (blockchain, peers, wallet.dat) than the standard-ones. I've had several problems with other wallets because of that, not so with the Mooncoin.exe.  

[gjhiggins]

I'll contact Graham (gjhiggins) by PM, too. Maybe he can tell us more on that, too and we can use the wallet, he already forked on GitHub as a basis for this ...?

If deacon boogie isn't available and you're looking to bring in outside help then you should stay with the official release to avoid unnecessarily complicating matters with inessentials. The official release is the one Syntaks helped with, it makes so much more sense to stick with that one.

Sorry I can't pitch in, circumstances are preventing it.

Cheers,

Graham

[mebagger]

I'll contact Graham (gjhiggins) by PM, too. Maybe he can tell us more on that, too and we can use the wallet, he already forked on GitHub as a basis for this ...?

If deacon boogie isn't available and you're looking to bring in outside help then you should stay with the official release to avoid unnecessarily complicating matters with inessentials. The official release is the one Syntaks helped with, it makes so much more sense to stick with that one.

Sorry I can't pitch in, circumstances are preventing it.

Cheers,

Graham

Sorry I read the post wrong. That change was proposed not included in the current download. The change sounds like a good one the me. But I would add merged mining and the installer to the list as well. Why reinvent the wheel if it works well for dogecoin, it would probably work well for us too.

[coinflow]

I'll contact Graham (gjhiggins) by PM, too. Maybe he can tell us more on that, too and we can use the wallet, he already forked on GitHub as a basis for this ...?

If deacon boogie isn't available and you're looking to bring in outside help then you should stay with the official release to avoid unnecessarily complicating matters with inessentials. The official release is the one Syntaks helped with, it makes so much more sense to stick with that one.

Sorry I can't pitch in, circumstances are preventing it.

Cheers,

Graham

Sorry I read the post wrong. That change was proposed not included in the current download. The change sounds like a good one the me. But I would add merged mining and the installer to the list as well. Why reinvent the wheel if it works well for dogecoin, it would probably work well for us too.

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

[gjhiggins]

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

Nope, I had no remit to rock the boat. Couldn't even manage an update to the cosmetics, let alone make a change to the reward schedule

Just in passing ... the proposed change requires a hard fork and that's not something to be rushed. People and pools need time to i) get round to reading the communication, ii) schedule the work, iii) implement the change and iv) confirm the results.

Cheers

Graham

[coinflow]

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

Nope, I had no remit to rock the boat. Couldn't even manage an update to the cosmetics, let alone make a change to the reward schedule

Just in passing ... the proposed change requires a hard fork and that's not something to be rushed. People and pools need time to i) get round to reading the communication, ii) schedule the work, iii) implement the change and iv) confirm the results.

Yes, you know, that I advocate it too, to only do that, if really needed.
But I think this is such a situation. Just check the blockchain and you'll see, that it is extremely unfair. 2QgWwFic9H45Waeac7Gr4iveRp8UUuPAy8 gets nearly all the big blocks (~250,000-600,000 Mooncoins), and the other miners receive only the small ones (1-300,000). We simply cannot let this happen any longer.

[sigwo]

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

Nope, I had no remit to rock the boat. Couldn't even manage an update to the cosmetics, let alone make a change to the reward schedule

Just in passing ... the proposed change requires a hard fork and that's not something to be rushed. People and pools need time to i) get round to reading the communication, ii) schedule the work, iii) implement the change and iv) confirm the results.

Yes, you know, that I advocate it too, to only do that, if really needed.
But I think this is such a situation. Just check the blockchain and you'll see, that it is extremely unfair. 2QgWwFic9H45Waeac7Gr4iveRp8UUuPAy8 gets nearly all the big blocks (~250,000-600,000 Mooncoins), and the other miners receive only the small ones (1-300,000). We simply cannot let this happen any longer.

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

[gjhiggins]

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

I think it happened when Dogecoin moved to Bitcoin Core 0.9 back in May. I've never quite understood why people aren't keener on migrating to a client app with protection against transaction malleability, especially seeing as it's a known exploit.

But “tanked”? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-dogecoins-price-rockets-bitcoin-stabilises-darkcoin-drops-1462583

Cheers

Graham

[coinflow]

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

I think it happened when Dogecoin moved to Bitcoin Core 0.9 back in May. I've never quite understood why people aren't keener on migrating to a client app with protection against transaction malleability, especially seeing as it's a known exploit.

But “tanked”? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-dogecoins-price-rockets-bitcoin-stabilises-darkcoin-drops-1462583

He's most probably referring to the "tanking" from the all-time highs at ~280 Sat to the now reached <= 30 Sat. But it seems as if DOGE is working its way up again, which is a good sign. And so could MOON - after its only "a little bit" more of tanking ...  

BUT: we need to fix those issues, that came our way. And to achieve this, we need an active developer (i.e.: someone capable of maintaining the code in a professional way).

Once again: deaconboogie, where are you???

I'd really rather see you come back and care for your coin yourself.
We can help ourselves only to a certain extent (if we don't decide to take over by a community-driven fork with a new development-mastermind or -team). And it is really great, to see the community working in a kind of concerted action now, to compensate for deaconboogies shortcomings. That's awesome.

What do you all think about that?

[agswinner]

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[disclaimer201]

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

I think it happened when Dogecoin moved to Bitcoin Core 0.9 back in May. I've never quite understood why people aren't keener on migrating to a client app with protection against transaction malleability, especially seeing as it's a known exploit.

But “tanked”? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-dogecoins-price-rockets-bitcoin-stabilises-darkcoin-drops-1462583

He's most probably referring to the "tanking" from the all-time highs at ~280 Sat to the now reached <= 30 Sat. But it seems as if DOGE is working its way up again, which is a good sign. And so could MOON - after its only "a little bit" more of tanking ...  

BUT: we need to fix those issues, that came our way. And to achieve this, we need an active developer (i.e.: someone capable of maintaining the code in a professional way).

Once again: deaconboogie, where are you???

I'd really rather see you come back and care for your coin yourself.
We can help ourselves only to a certain extent (if we don't decide to take over by a community-driven fork with a new development-mastermind or -team). And it is really great, to see the community working in a kind of concerted action now, to compensate for deaconboogies shortcomings. That's awesome.

What do you all think about that?

I hope he comes back, it would be awesome for MoonCoin. If not, we will see how far this community will get. In any way, the mining disparity issue must be solved ASAP.

[peme]

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[Wekkel]

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[agswinner]

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[mooncoin1]

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[coinflow]

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[agswinner]

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[agswinner]

   
Support (Hive)
Aug 28 10:06

Hi Andrea,

Thanks for this wonderful suggestion! Before we can add it, we need specific details and help with the developers of mooncoin. You can join the discussion on our token prioritization and find out about what we will be specifically needing for our wallet to support mooncoin. Here are the links : https://github.com/hivewallet/discussions/issues/22 and https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=637227.0.

Kind regards,
Karla

[agswinner]

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=637227.new#new

[coinflow]

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=637227.new#new

I've read a little bit in that thread and they are saying, that they'd need a SPV (Simple Payment Verification)-compatible wallet, to implement the coin into Hive.
That's another reason to upgrade our wallet to the Bitcoin-code as soon as possible (as gjhiggins already mentionened above, it would also overcome the transaction malleability-problem), inlcuding changing from random rewards to static rewards for the miners (but leaving the rest of the algorithm completely intact).
See this link for more on SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability#Simplified_payment_verification

Edit: See this link, for information on bitcoinj, an implementation of SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoinj