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[darkmule]

Reasoning being is ownership directly of this name by swcpoker would mean approx $75,000 per annum in revenue roi in 1-2 years!

Kill yourself.

[cheekychap]

It will be stupid to buy that domain. its completely worthless.

[CryptoDomains]

You guys are right, it's worthless, things that will make you money and need no rank effort or advertisement to generate unique type in visits targeted to your product are worthless.

 

[donk4u]

Reasoning being is ownership directly of this name by swcpoker would mean approx $75,000 per annum in revenue roi in 1-2 years!

Kill yourself.

Always the voice of reason

[CryptoDomains]

SOLD!

Took your guys advice, thank you.

[donk4u]

Played some plo couple of things I noticed when all in hu on flop cards are not shown and then doesn't tell you what hand won in the description can this be changed? If can include statistics that show money won or lost at each ring game would be great also.

[LongJohnJake]

Here's some early comments after several hours of play and general hanging around the site last 24 hours.
Notwithstanding the pretty slick UI - I mean, how cool is it to be able to choose from 6 different carpets and card-back colors!? - there's some serious holes:
No browser client.
No showdown info. 
No running rake totals during hand.
No game info - Mavens was always the leader with this - you could see exactly what you were getting into regarding rake rates and caps, buyins, time banks and more. 
Speaking of Mavens: One of the strongest reasons to use their game engine is the RNG - fully documented on their site, and fully testable by doing your own sims (which my co. has done). And along with this are the millions of hands that have been played with this engine by their huge non-RM and home-poker user base.  Just check out their Forum to see the depth and quality.  Note: We absolutely have NOTHING to do with Mavens.   

Of course, these shortcomings and questions may be moot for the Grid system Micon is using,  but then why not provide them up front.  I can assure you that if they are still in the development pipeline, time and treasure are not on their side with mini-micro games.  With these shortcomings I can't see serious grinders giving him the volume needed.

Also, their communications don't provide much reassurance either. For example, the SWC FAQ:

How much do you charge in rake?
Rake at ring game tables is 1 chip per 40 (2.5% rounded down) with a cap of the lesser of 3BB or 5 chips (0.005BTC).Limit tables with a big blind of 0.5 chips (0.0005BTC) or higher have rake of 1 chip per 50 (2% rounded down) with a cap of the lesser of 2BB or 4 chips (0.004BTC).HU tables with a big blind of 0.5 chips (0.0005BTC) or higher have rake of 1 chip per 75 (~1.33% rounded down) with a cap of the lesser of 1BB or 3 chips (0.003BTC).If a game would have a rake cap of less than 0.5 chips (0.0005BTC) then the rake cap will be 0.5 chips (0.0005BTC).No rake is collected on hands that do not make it to the flop.


Reads like it was composed a stoner or someone with English as a 3rd language.  Apart from the grade-school layout, it's unclear, for example, what the HU rules are for Limit and No Limit unless, unlike 3+ games, they are now the same?)  Simple matrix layout is what's needed.

[LongJohnJake]

If anyone is interested...

SWCPOKER.com (Highly targeted name pure genuine traffic)
Godaddy Push of ownership only at this time.
First few hours monitoring traffic looks like it may do XXX unique visits a day + as time goes on.
When one does a conversion via affiliate at 20% for life when compared to the old .com name...
100+ uv at a small X% conversion rate is approx. $15,000 USD per annum (approx 50-75 BTC) + at current BTC price, price goes up, revenue goes up! Again when using old .com name as reference.

Asking 500 Bitcoin or best offer. Big amount sure but big revenue stream potential as well!
Ciurrent high offer is 200 BTC + $25,000 USD.

Reasoning being is ownership directly of this name by swcpoker would mean approx $75,000 per annum in revenue roi in 1-2 years!

PM offers, ultimately may just use it for affiliate myself next week. Again all above is projected, no gaur.

That URL is worthless. If someone is offering 200 BTC + $25k, take it. Seriously. Before they realize they're making a horrible business deal.

That specific domain has nothing going for it. It's not special. If you just want to rank, rank for "swc poker" using the domain "urafloppydonkey.com" and you'll have the same success.

Math doesn't add up - as BTC increases, players simply play smaller mBTC games, since, effectively, they are thinking in USD.  Exercise: Set BTC at $10K.  You think the player base will float up with it so that rake will go up 40X from here??  This, of course, is even without considering their caps policies.  for NL it's min(.005 BTC, 3BB).  So even as BTC rises, rake maxes out very quickly.

So looks like Crypto stole one here!

[CryptoDomains]

Math does make sense if the same volume is played as price rises however you are also correct that would hit a ceiling at which point it did not as players would simply play less coin. So one may see a increase for a short time then flattening out or adjust as players adjusted habit for value. The same may be said of a price drop I suppose.

So yes good catch sir but the valuation was based on todays value any ways $200-$300 BTC. 

At the current time the math makes sense minus potential increase due to BTC increasing but rather I should have stated popularity (more sign ups/players) WILL increase revenue.

[tspacepilot]

Ok, so I'm stoked that the new seals started up but I'm incredibly bummed that it's only for Windoze ppl now.  There is no ability to play in a browser, to play on android, or on any desktop other than Windoze.  In my opinion, this puts seals with clubs back into the stone age of all the other poker sites that only support windoze and guess what, I don't have windoze and I've never played them.

So sad.

Can you guys at least bring back play in the browser?

[calci]

Ok, so I'm stoked that the new seals started up but I'm incredibly bummed that it's only for Windoze ppl now.  There is no ability to play in a browser, to play on android, or on any desktop other than Windoze.  In my opinion, this puts seals with clubs back into the stone age of all the other poker sites that only support windoze and guess what, I don't have windoze and I've never played them.

So sad.

Can you guys at least bring back play in the browser?

I am waiting for the browser version as well. Micon did say that the browser and the mac version will come out after windows and should happen soon.

[adaseb]

If anyone is interested...

SWCPOKER.com (Highly targeted name pure genuine traffic)
Godaddy Push of ownership only at this time.
First few hours monitoring traffic looks like it may do XXX unique visits a day + as time goes on.
When one does a conversion via affiliate at 20% for life when compared to the old .com name...
100+ uv at a small X% conversion rate is approx. $15,000 USD per annum (approx 50-75 BTC) + at current BTC price, price goes up, revenue goes up! Again when using old .com name as reference.

Asking 500 Bitcoin or best offer. Big amount sure but big revenue stream potential as well!
Ciurrent high offer is 200 BTC + $25,000 USD.

Reasoning being is ownership directly of this name by swcpoker would mean approx $75,000 per annum in revenue roi in 1-2 years!

PM offers, ultimately may just use it for affiliate myself next week. Again all above is projected, no gaur.

That URL is worthless. If someone is offering 200 BTC + $25k, take it. Seriously. Before they realize they're making a horrible business deal.

That specific domain has nothing going for it. It's not special. If you just want to rank, rank for "swc poker" using the domain "urafloppydonkey.com" and you'll have the same success.

I gaurantee you nobody will ever pay that much. Its just crazy and no way will it ever generate that much money.

[tspacepilot]

Ok, so I'm stoked that the new seals started up but I'm incredibly bummed that it's only for Windoze ppl now.  There is no ability to play in a browser, to play on android, or on any desktop other than Windoze.  In my opinion, this puts seals with clubs back into the stone age of all the other poker sites that only support windoze and guess what, I don't have windoze and I've never played them.

So sad.

Can you guys at least bring back play in the browser?

I am waiting for the browser version as well. Micon did say that the browser and the mac version will come out after windows and should happen soon.

Hopefully the "mac" version will run on GNU/Linux desktops as well.  Their last linux release probably would have run on OSX as well since it was just a python program.  Yah, Micon, don't forget that some of us don't do the MicroSoft thing (we keep our computers as free of shit, just as you do with your bitcoin wallets).

[calci]

If anyone is interested...

SWCPOKER.com (Highly targeted name pure genuine traffic)
Godaddy Push of ownership only at this time.
First few hours monitoring traffic looks like it may do XXX unique visits a day + as time goes on.
When one does a conversion via affiliate at 20% for life when compared to the old .com name...
100+ uv at a small X% conversion rate is approx. $15,000 USD per annum (approx 50-75 BTC) + at current BTC price, price goes up, revenue goes up! Again when using old .com name as reference.

Asking 500 Bitcoin or best offer. Big amount sure but big revenue stream potential as well!
Ciurrent high offer is 200 BTC + $25,000 USD.

Reasoning being is ownership directly of this name by swcpoker would mean approx $75,000 per annum in revenue roi in 1-2 years!

PM offers, ultimately may just use it for affiliate myself next week. Again all above is projected, no gaur.

That URL is worthless. If someone is offering 200 BTC + $25k, take it. Seriously. Before they realize they're making a horrible business deal.

That specific domain has nothing going for it. It's not special. If you just want to rank, rank for "swc poker" using the domain "urafloppydonkey.com" and you'll have the same success.

I gaurantee you nobody will ever pay that much. Its just crazy and no way will it ever generate that much money.

Wow just read this. Yeah no one would even pay more than 1 BTC for it. It seems to be completely useless.

[CryptoDomains]

We'll see new owner is waiting for their affiliate stuff next week.

It is simple math, their affiliate stuff hasn't changed (20% for life).

The old site ending in .com had roughly 100-200 visits a day, that equated to X number of sign ups per day and a $XX,XXX per year in btc revenue (proven).

This name will be no different, all estimated of course

Why anyone can say the exact match name in dot com with good natural traffic and affiliate conversion potential is worthless or worth just X shows how little they actually know.

[caga]

We'll see new owner is waiting for their affiliate stuff next week.

It is simple math, their affiliate stuff hasn't changed (20% for life).

The old site ending in .com had roughly 100-200 visits a day, that equated to X number of sign ups per day and a $XX,XXX per year in btc revenue (proven).

This name will be no different

Why anyone can say the exact match name in dot com with good natural traffic and affiliate conversion potential is worthless or worth just X shows how little they actually know.

That reminds me, are the affliates from the previous sites also been transferred to the new site automatically ?

[darkmule]

We'll see new owner is waiting for their affiliate stuff next week.

It is simple math, their affiliate stuff hasn't changed (20% for life).

The old site ending in .com had roughly 100-200 visits a day, that equated to X number of sign ups per day and a $XX,XXX per year in btc revenue (proven).

This name will be no different

Why anyone can say the exact match name in dot com with good natural traffic and affiliate conversion potential is worthless or worth just X shows how little they actually know.

What a load of hooey.  Fuck off, scammer.

[CryptoDomains]

@darkmule

Are you on drugs?

You gotta love bitcointalk where "kill yourself" and "Fuck off" are great replies and signs of proof


@caga, they mentioned they would be honoring their affiliates but not sure if that means automatically or resigning. Have to wait to see next week.

[NiceSoft12]

what happens to previous accounts and krills?

[haoyun456]

how i can get my BITCOIN in my account??? why it alwaiys was currently pending after i cash out?