Hueristic
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Merit: 6751
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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June 02, 2014, 04:31:44 PM |
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Depends on the product, 90% of the stuff including Amazon is and always has been marked up 2% for the BTC sales, Steam is up 10-15% because of the merchant that provides it (although it will be cheaper from multiple options on the new marketplace). I do my best to avoid defending or promoting NOBL with the DOGE crew, the amount of vitriol I get from many of its supporters in private is enough to change anyones view on their community. I really just let them do their thing and stay out of their way, although I did comment a month or two back in support for a merge-mine with LTC to ensure longterm security. I hear ya, BCT is not indicative of the scene on many coins. Probably why most coins supporters move offsite. |
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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kresu
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June 02, 2014, 05:05:49 PM |
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Hey, I just connected two fact and came up to this idea:
In case of any future NOBL-[alternative] coins, i think that the philosphy of Proof-of-Burn is worth considering.
But to not limit the inital distribution, we can have different ratios of burning:
- for example burning 100 NOBL (sending to provably unspendable address) gives you 1 NOBL-ANON (decreasing the base NOBL cap)
- but what if you can also burn BTC? (it could be slightly more expansive, to reward noble holders) Would it be something new?
We can call it Double Proof of Burn or something.
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pikuchato
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June 03, 2014, 05:53:44 AM |
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Hey, I just connected two fact and came up to this idea:
In case of any future NOBL-[alternative] coins, i think that the philosphy of Proof-of-Burn is worth considering.
But to not limit the inital distribution, we can have different ratios of burning:
- for example burning 100 NOBL (sending to provably unspendable address) gives you 1 NOBL-ANON (decreasing the base NOBL cap)
- but what if you can also burn BTC? (it could be slightly more expansive, to reward noble holders) Would it be something new?
We can call it Double Proof of Burn or something.
This can be interesting.. |
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NorrisK
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Merit: 1007
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June 03, 2014, 06:57:21 AM |
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Wondering what burning BTC would achieve for noble?
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kresu
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June 03, 2014, 07:06:31 AM |
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Wondering what burning BTC would achieve for noble?
Automatic, fair, decentralized distribution of the new coin? I'm just looking at how counterparty resolved this. Transactions were burned by being sent to unspendable output. These ~2,125 btc are lost to the ether.
This was not an IPO. No entity including development team ever saw a penny of those funds. Actually it had the effect of enriching bitcoin holders. This distribution model put everyone on equal footing from day 1, ensured no allegations of foul play nor complaints of mismanaged funds. Everything from day 1 is fully auditable and transparent for the world to see. If it will make NOBL-NEW interesting, as fairly distributed with that fair method, it would also help BASE-NOBL to become more popular, maybe? Edit: That's because I think that initial distibution is a key. Almost all the new coins are beeing distrubuted mainly to "rich" entities in terms of available mining power and/or money, making it difficult to distribute fairly. Another day I have read that devs of some coin, pretending to be "2.0", now wait for a number of stakeholders to become more than 3000 — and only then, they say, and not before, launching the blockchain will make sense at all... I'm just not sure where was it, that info, and which coin. There are some equations existing out there, for calculating the number of initial holders/users needed for an asset to have a chance to become a currency. |
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Hueristic
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Activity: 4410
Merit: 6751
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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June 03, 2014, 01:31:33 PM |
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Wondering what burning BTC would achieve for noble?
Automatic, fair, decentralized distribution of the new coin? I'm just looking at how counterparty resolved this. Transactions were burned by being sent to unspendable output. These ~2,125 btc are lost to the ether.
This was not an IPO. No entity including development team ever saw a penny of those funds. Actually it had the effect of enriching bitcoin holders. This distribution model put everyone on equal footing from day 1, ensured no allegations of foul play nor complaints of mismanaged funds. Everything from day 1 is fully auditable and transparent for the world to see. If it will make NOBL-NEW interesting, as fairly distributed with that fair method, it would also help BASE-NOBL to become more popular, maybe? Edit: That's because I think that initial distibution is a key. Almost all the new coins are beeing distrubuted mainly to "rich" entities in terms of available mining power and/or money, making it difficult to distribute fairly. Another day I have read that devs of some coin, pretending to be "2.0", now wait for a number of stakeholders to become more than 3000 — and only then, they say, and not before, launching the blockchain will make sense at all... I'm just not sure where was it, that info, and which coin. There are some equations existing out there, for calculating the number of initial holders/users needed for an asset to have a chance to become a currency. All this will do is throw Dev money away. |
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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paulus51
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June 03, 2014, 01:42:50 PM |
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And poolerino is back  Fredyy (about 2 hours ago)
hi guys, a cronjob got stuck, it's fixed now and the serve is working on the backlog. no coins where lost
Fredyy (41 minutes ago)
everything uptodate again, sorry for the trouble Im sorry for that. We have been on vacation over the long weekend here in germany and didnt see that cronjob stuck. Unfortunately the pool didnt send out his warning emails. We will fix that warning system now. No coins have been lost and mining is going on, payouts every second. nobl.poolerino.com that is. 0% fee. Mike np what ever coin you wil " host" il mine at your place , always trustfull ( paulus51 / paulus55 ) |
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voephilis
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June 03, 2014, 02:08:53 PM |
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when will bullion arrive in our marketplace?
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ontopicplease
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June 03, 2014, 04:40:19 PM |
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This afternoon I discovered https://hitbtc.com, a very smooth working exchange. I send them an email for getting Noble added at the voting page. Hope to hear from them soon, so we can start voting. |
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June 03, 2014, 05:00:24 PM |
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hello,
I'm from tehe digibyte communication, and the people on bitcointalk say that noble coin also a good coin is (but it's not very populaider)
why must `I be buy noble coins...
what's makes noblecoin special?
why do you think that I buy over 1 year buy coffee or a ticket for the train in noble coins
zou fijn als je in het nederlands andwoord geeft <---(translate to my own language)]
sorry for my bad english
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pikuchato
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June 03, 2014, 05:00:26 PM |
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This afternoon I discovered https://hitbtc.com, a very smooth working exchange. I send them an email for getting Noble added at the voting page. Hope to hear from them soon, so we can start voting. I don't think NobleCoin need more exchanges right now, it is already listed on poliniex and mintpal. |
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Cryptocure
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June 03, 2014, 05:16:08 PM |
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This afternoon I discovered https://hitbtc.com, a very smooth working exchange. I send them an email for getting Noble added at the voting page. Hope to hear from them soon, so we can start voting. I don't think NobleCoin need more exchanges right now, it is already listed on poliniex and mintpal. More exposure can't hurt, right? And that exchange looks quite refreshing |
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1Kb
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June 03, 2014, 05:42:11 PM |
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hello,
I'm from tehe digibyte communication, and the people on bitcointalk say that noble coin also a good coin is (but it's not very populaider)
why must `I be buy noble coins...
what's makes noblecoin special?
why do you think that I buy over 1 year buy coffee or a ticket for the train in noble coins
zou fijn als je in het nederlands andwoord geeft <---(translate to my own language)]
sorry for my bad english
Hi, In the current market there are lots of coins (I am currently tracking over 580+ of them). All will say that they are good. But for me the community, the thought and intention is also important. Not to forget the dedication of the development team. If you look at the noble web page you will see the accomplishments Noble has done so far. And they will be more than just that. Whether you will be able to buy a cup of coffee with Noble.... That is not just dependend on Noble:) But you can already trade Noble with USD for example. Hope that helps. Nu in het Nederlands (<-in dutch), In de huidige markt zijn er heel veel munten (ik volg er op het moment 580+). allen zullen zeggen dat ze goed zijn. Maar voor mij zijn de gemeenschap, de gedachte en de intentie belangrijk. Niet te vergeten de toewijding van het ontwikkelteam. Als je kijkt naar de webpagina zie je wat we inmiddels al bereikt hebben. En we zitten niet stil. Of je volgend jaar een kop koffie kunt kopen met Noble.... Dat ligt niet alleen bij Noble:) Maar je kunt wel al bijvoorbeeld Noble naar USD handelen. Hoop dat dit je een beetje helpt. |
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June 03, 2014, 05:56:05 PM |
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wat heeft de gemeenschap dan al gedaan?
of de dev?
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June 03, 2014, 06:01:29 PM |
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wat heeft de gemeenschap dan al gedaan?
of de dev?
Heb je op de frontpagina iets gezien over een water project? |
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paulus51
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June 03, 2014, 06:14:51 PM |
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This afternoon I discovered https://hitbtc.com, a very smooth working exchange. I send them an email for getting Noble added at the voting page. Hope to hear from them soon, so we can start voting. I don't think NobleCoin need more exchanges right now, it is already listed on poliniex and mintpal. More exposure can't hurt, right? And that exchange looks quite refreshing hmm nice...not,......... withdrawal of minimum 2000 euro/dollar  -->[ limited user = anonymous ?) Must make at least a 10.00 USD deposit from the destination account and can make a unique withdrawal of 2,000.00 USD and : deposit usd fee is 9.0 us dollar ! |
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June 03, 2014, 06:51:23 PM |
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wat heeft de gemeenschap dan al gedaan?
of de dev?
Heb je op de frontpagina iets gezien over een water project? leg uit... |
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June 03, 2014, 07:06:22 PM |
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wat heeft de gemeenschap dan al gedaan?
of de dev?
Heb je op de frontpagina iets gezien over een water project? leg uit... Ok, maar ik hoop dat je je bewust bent dat je manier van vraagstelling, ID en "eigen onderzoek" me niet gerust stellen dat je serieus bent. NobleCoin heeft een gemeenschap waar met respect met elkaar wordt omgegaan. Nu zijn we niet erg populair vanwege de lage prijs wat ook een hoop rare reacties in het forum scheelt. Op het moment dat NobleCoin werd gelanceerd heeft de gemeenschap het voor elkaar gekregen om de limiet van 5000 USD op te leveren voor het water project. WorldCoin is dit niet gelukt bijvoorbeeld. Daarnaast zitten we hier niet voor de korte termijn dus als Rofo een vraag stelt dan weet (bijna) iedereen dat hij geen korte termijn antwoord wil hebben. Wij dragen ideeen bij hem aan en hij vraagt aan ons om mee te denken. Ook hebben we de (kleine) draagkracht om voor iets te gaan. Als Mintpal ons niet had toegevoegd vanwege het volume (op dat moment) hadden we nu toegevoegd geweest puur vanwege de votes die we leveren. Een ander voorbeeld is de actie die Kresu organiseerd. Zijn actie is voor een goeddoel en hij heeft zijn eerste limiet al gehaald. Wat ook leuk is aan deze community, zijn de diepte conversaties die zo nu en dan plaatsvinden. Maar goed, doe er mee wat je wilt. Je bent nergens toe verplicht en NobleCoin zal je zeer waarschijnlijk geen snel geld op gaan leveren. Daar zorgen een aantal groepen wel voor die continue een P&D aan het uitvoeren zijn. Als je snel geld wil verdienen zul je die P&D's moeten zien te spotten. |
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