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April 27, 2015, 05:15:53 PM |
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The monero scam-mine is 1%? I'm pretty sure it's been stated several times that the the scam-mine was around 5% of the supply. Why now claim it is 1%? Tomorrow it will be .20%?
Well it is 0% if you want to talk about instamining. There was none. If you want to talk about the effect of the blatantly de-optimized miner, that was probably <1% (whatever portion of the coins mined by the original scammers in the first 19 days before we fixed it, which couldn't possibly be all of them because other people mined, a lot). If you want to talk about the effect of some people optimizing the miner better than others, that was perhaps 5%, perhaps less (depends who was mining how much and that is hard to say), and perhaps more or even a lot more. You realize that goes on with every coin forever and there are private X11 (and I assume CryptoNight) miners right now, correct?
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April 27, 2015, 05:21:22 PM |
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the launch of ANY coin is probably not perfect.
But it's pretty lame to come here and nag us about our launch while your own coin's launch is not much better !
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April 27, 2015, 05:21:38 PM |
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snip- While monero is on a witch hunt for premine/instamines, do not forget to have coinmarketcap include the * on bitcoin.
LTC had 450,000 coins mined in 6 hours. I don't see the holier than thou Monero crypto police making similar claims to have LTC listed as instamined. 1.2% of the current supply. Not significant. I have my doubts about LTC being as clean as it is often portrayed for other reasons, but not that one. Evan solved problems Bitcoin had, u the CRY BABY Smooth Monero dev could not even solve a simple street corner puzzle or bring anything new to CRYPTO; after copying another coin he's stuck like a cheating student in a math test.
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April 27, 2015, 05:22:27 PM |
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1% or 35%.
Maybe you should ask coinmarketcap if they think 1% is "significantly" anything. Then ask them about 35%. I have a feeling they put that word "significantly" there for a reason, but I don't really know. Between us friends, lets just call that instamined. No let's not call that instamined because, you know, words have meanings. OK. Lets revert. You, as one of the core devs of Monero, around from practically launch day, as far as I can tell, have openly said Monero was purposefully deoptimized from launch. You may not have known, but the fact is you have said it was scam launched. Those coins were not burned and you didn't relaunch, for whatever reason - probably the high emission rate benefiting the early adopters, but who really knows. Monero will have fewer maxcoins than DASH, yet despite launching 3-4 months after Darkcoin, Monero now has 7.4m coins vs DASH at 5.3m I don't know why I keep trying to be civil with you. So lets remember what you said about the Monero scam launch with a deoptimized miner that you have, by your deeds as a core dev, condoned: -snip- I don't agree that a few percent of the coins mined by someone who optimized the miner is "significantly" instamined or premined. If we restrict it to the period before the obviously deliberate de-optimization was remove then it is probably 1% or less.-snip-
smooth is deceptively playing word games again. when he says 35% he is talking about the current coin supply not the total coin supply. i guess that means that 15-20% of moneros "current coin supply" was instamined.
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April 27, 2015, 05:23:28 PM |
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the launch of ANY coin is probably not perfect.
But it's pretty lame to come here and nag us about our launch while your own coin's launch is not much better !
Funny, it's like comparing a kiss on the cheek to gang-rape.
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April 27, 2015, 05:25:06 PM |
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the launch of ANY coin is probably not perfect.
But it's pretty lame to come here and nag us about our launch while your own coin's launch is not much better !
Not funny bad taste comment Who is paying you guys? Really? Is it the banking industry or a government, or are you all just pawns and have no idea?
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April 27, 2015, 05:25:19 PM |
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smooth is deceptively playing word games again. when he says 35% he is talking about the current coin supply not the total coin supply. i guess that means that 15-20% of moneros "current coin supply" was instamined.
0% of anything was instamined on Monero, and you know it. If you want to express the effect of the deliberately de-optimized miner in terms of the current supply of monero it would be around 2.5x (roughly 1/2.5 of the nominal total coin supply currently exists), so probably <2.5%. If you want to express the effect of some people optimizing miners better than others, that might be as much as 12.5% or more if you consider that it goes on forever (for every coin, nothing special about Monero).
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April 27, 2015, 05:28:23 PM |
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the launch of ANY coin is probably not perfect.
But it's pretty lame to come here and nag us about our launch while your own coin's launch is not much better !
Not funny bad taste comment Who is paying you guys? Really? Is it the banking industry or a government, or are you all just pawns and have no idea? Nobody, but I can't stand crooked logic and that's what all you smooth attackers are using. It just hurts to read it.. If I was smooth- I would just stop trying to explain anything- not worth the trouble.
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April 27, 2015, 05:29:49 PM |
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LOL farfiman, right.
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April 27, 2015, 05:30:52 PM |
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the launch of ANY coin is probably not perfect.
But it's pretty lame to come here and nag us about our launch while your own coin's launch is not much better !
None are perfect but pretty much any reasonable coin, including Monero, is indeed "much better" than almost 600K coins in an hour, almost 2M coins in a day, a bug that created extra coins, an actual supply curve (as shown in the block explorer) that matches none of the published formulas, and then having the future supply cut after the fact. So yes I would say much, much better.
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April 27, 2015, 05:33:35 PM |
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If I was smooth- I would just stop trying to explain anything- not worth the trouble.
GREAT...thats what we've been saying too! Get your Trollero dev out of our thread is our mutual goal then, lmao!
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April 27, 2015, 05:36:18 PM |
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LOL farfiman, right.
I know. Its so lame. They admit Monero was scam launched so people were taken for a ride, well - scammed, but its everyone else who is actually a scammer. That's enough from me about the alpha-grade, scam launched, centralised webwallet, 5k bot-mined, broken pig with pink lipstick, that takes weeks to sync, is accepted hardly anywhere, devs spend most of their time trolling coin.
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April 27, 2015, 05:41:28 PM |
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Great...you don' t like our coin...now that we are all clear, that you don't like the fact that we had an open vote and decided to not relaunch...for the record, Evan asked for burning of the coins and/or re-launch. The community said no...ok, do we have this clarified....THE COMMUNITY said no...respect the community mr smooth. Thanks
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April 27, 2015, 05:45:14 PM |
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LOL farfiman, right.
I know. Its so lame. They admit Monero was scam launched so people were taken for a ride, well - scammed, but its everyone else who is actually a scammer. That's enough from me about the alpha-grade, scam launched, centralised webwallet, 5k bot-mined, broken pig with pink lipstick, that takes weeks to sync, is accepted hardly anywhere, devs spend most of their time trolling coin. shhhhhh. Thats the plan....  love the quality of their product too...notice how its a one trick horse, never hear them compare technology and features. LOL WEAK! "Smooth & the Gang" banging out the hits! lol
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April 27, 2015, 05:49:30 PM |
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LOL farfiman, right.
I know. Its so lame. They admit Monero was scam launched so people were taken for a ride, well - scammed, but its everyone else who is actually a scammer. That's enough from me about the alpha-grade, scam launched, centralised webwallet, 5k bot-mined, broken pig with pink lipstick, that takes weeks to sync, is accepted hardly anywhere, devs spend most of their time trolling coin. shhhhhh. Thats the plan....  love the quality of their product too...notice how its a one trick horse, never hear them compare technology and features. LOL WEAK! "Smooth & the Gang" banging out the hits! lol There is plenty of discussion about quality and features on our thread, on our forum, in our status reports (missives), year in review, and development goals documents. None of that gets discussed here because it has nothing to do with dash, unlike issues such as the instamine and coinmarketcap's response to being made aware of it. It's funny how much you guys talk about Monero here. Must be interesting to you somehow. Get your Trollero dev out of our thread is our mutual goal then Why is being challenged in a respectful manner and responses to misinformation about another coin so offensive to you? Unmoderated coin threads are for open discussion, not promotion and cheerleading.
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April 27, 2015, 05:51:22 PM |
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Smooth & the Gang
Oh yes...very interesting to me  LOL I think you've now officially posted more on our DASH thread then our own DEV has! even IF at one time there was some merrit to your Trollero...you've managed to screw that up with your trolling - Your a Joke... hahahahahahaha 
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April 27, 2015, 06:03:15 PM |
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-snip- It's funny how much you guys talk about Monero here. Must be interesting to you somehow. -snip-
That is so lame. You create hate threads, send packs of trolls here every two minutes, and finally campaign in packs to coinmarketcap with skewed words to reinforce your "see, we told you it was a scam" message, and then you expect everyone to rollover and invest in your shitcoinism. Dream on Dogecoin-is-worth-more-than-Monero-obscurity coin. Dream on. At least you can now copy BCN's new wallet. No need to 'dev'. lol
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April 27, 2015, 06:04:03 PM |
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@ Smooth
I am cry baby Monero developer who can not compete with EVAN in CODING or bring something new to Monero so I cry about it here
Ehhh, just go back to ur shitcoin please
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April 27, 2015, 06:04:31 PM |
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Where is DASH ( ex DRK) forum now? I see only moronero talk here. This forum has no admins? Or admins too want this tread to be closed...
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April 27, 2015, 06:09:29 PM |
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Where is DASH ( ex DRK) forum now? I see only moronero talk here. This forum has no admins? Or admins too want this tread to be closed...
Hey AzzAz. We have no admin's here. Its not a moderated thread... our dev team does not post here unless its to provide technical assistance or announce new features, they are busy actually developing. A quick look at our new and current features proves this. Otherwise this thread is wide open...everyone already knows that dashtalk.org is where development and such are discussed.
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