[ANN] [MINT] Mintcoin (POS / 5%) [NO ICO] [Fair distro, community maintained]

[stormia]

Waiting for the first MINT/USD to occur.

Somebody bid and i just ask with the same price his order on https://www.vaultofsatoshi.com/

Waiting for them to allow verification where I live again
I hope they can come back to the US soon.

They would need a DNA sample, a retina scan, your left testicle and your first born child.

Hmm... All of that is encompassed within my left testicle in one form or another... except for the retina scan.

[Beaverslayer]

Waiting for the first MINT/USD to occur.

Somebody bid and i just ask with the same price his order on https://www.vaultofsatoshi.com/

Waiting for them to allow verification where I live again
I hope they can come back to the US soon.

They would need a DNA sample, a retina scan, your left testicle and your first born child.

They will be back in the USA soon enough. It's all just a matter of getting all the FinCen paperwork in order and paying the fees for it to happen. I suspect they will start with the more popular states such as NY and CA first, then grow from there. They know the potential and will work hard at getting back into the USA....millions upon millions to be made...

[coolbeans94]

BTC is dying, switch to MINT asap.

[gonzoucab]

https://i.imgur.com/8nhkxCR.png

BTC is dying, switch to MINT asap.

My partner on the mining project its slapping me jajajajaj

I think that this price makes GPU mining unprofitable, market behaves like the shipping bussiness

Is time to invest in new mining when everybody is unsolvent.

[coolbeans94]

BTC is dying, switch to MINT asap.

My partner on the mining project its slapping me jajajajaj

I think that this price makes GPU mining unprofitable, market behaves like the shipping bussiness

Is time to invest in new mining when everybody is unsolvent.

Except that Bitcoin's security relies on miners, and if mining is unprofitable, then less people mine and the less people mine, the less secure it gets.

[stormia]

Looks like it could rebound to the 400s

[KSGuy]

Looks like it could rebound to the 400s

it's up to 410 right now
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/btce/USD

[gonzoucab]

Looks like it could rebound to the 400s

I have in one screen bitcoinwisdom and in the other the dialogs between opossition a Venezuelan goberment, what a night! jejejeje

403! reboud!

[infra172]

You guys should not talk about the price. Talk about the merchant and technique development!

However, only the price can make our profit for our investors.
 

[coolbeans94]

I try to talk about both. If the price is moving, (which it is right now) it is worth a mention.

[drakoin]

I guess the MintWallet needs to be patched against www.heartbleed.com ?
Or does 1.8 already include that?   If not, is there an ETA for 1.9 ?  Thx a million!

[stormia]

I guess the MintWallet needs to be patched against www.heartbleed.com ?
Or does 1.8 already include that?   If not, is there an ETA for 1.9 ?  Thx a million!

The v1.8 wallet uses openssl 1.0.1g, which is not vulnerable to heartbleed (1.0.1g is the fix to the bug in 1.0.1)

[meelvanchris]

I try to talk about both. If the price is moving, (which it is right now) it is worth a mention.

As with all crypto price is a must. But i do really hope one day in the near future we can get away from looking at prices and converting them for dolars, euros, yens and whatnot's. Whole point of crypto was essentionally not a way to get more of those but instead to create an alternative currency!
So when you can try to think value not price. (yes, its a difference and its big)

Price is what you sell it for -> get more of the dying and corrupt goverment controlled fiat.
Value is what you can get for it -> trading for stuff you might want/need.

I realise ofc this is a uthopian thought as we all are in some way driven by greed. And even when trading merchants will look for a price to match a trade. But the more people try to abandon the tought of price the more crypto will flourish as it was once intended.

http://behindthecoin.com/threads/126-The-creation-of-value?highlight=creation

[drakoin]

I guess the MintWallet needs to be patched against www.heartbleed.com ?
Or does 1.8 already include that?   If not, is there an ETA for 1.9 ?  Thx a million!

The v1.8 wallet uses openssl 1.0.1g, which is not vulnerable to heartbleed (1.0.1g is the fix to the bug in 1.0.1)

Superb. Thanks.

I suggest to mention it in the OP:

Wallets:
(patched against www.heartbleed.com bug since v1.8 )
Windows ( 1.8 ): https://mega.co.nz/#!RFximLKI!XOfdzJRPb5NU-zWr-5j0_-O0mbRfOf8AGo9IyFn5t4I
Installer (1.7): https://github.com/unek/mintcoin-binaries/releases/download/1.7/MintCoin-1.7-win32-setup.exe
Linux ( 1.8 ):  ....

[gonzoucab]

I try to talk about both. If the price is moving, (which it is right now) it is worth a mention.

Like bringing outside investor right now can bring a bad name to invest con alt and crypto. we must take things easy

this is a bumpy ride

[Beaverslayer]

I try to talk about both. If the price is moving, (which it is right now) it is worth a mention.

As with all crypto price is a must. But i do really hope one day in the near future we can get away from looking at prices and converting them for dolars, euros, yens and whatnot's. Whole point of crypto was essentionally not a way to get more of those but instead to create an alternative currency!
So when you can try to think value not price. (yes, its a difference and its big)

Price is what you sell it for -> get more of the dying and corrupt goverment controlled fiat.
Value is what you can get for it -> trading for stuff you might want/need.

I realise ofc this is a uthopian thought as we all are in some way driven by greed. And even when trading merchants will look for a price to match a trade. But the more people try to abandon the tought of price the more crypto will flourish as it was once intended.

http://behindthecoin.com/threads/126-The-creation-of-value?highlight=creation

The whole concept of crypto currencies is, and always will be about "Money" and the "Value" of the crypto coin. No matter how much you hope that the day will come that crypto's will not be valued in proportion to any fiat currency, that day will never come...sorry to say.

The entire concept of "Currency" is to create "Value" and that value has to have a common denominator, otherwise it will not work. If there was no set value to compare one altcoin from the other, then there is no need for so many altcoins. Also, one BTC would be worth the same as one Fedora coin, even though there are far less BTC's than Fedora's, without having something to set the value comparison too, they would be both worth the same amount. Ten BTC for a goat, or ten Fedora's for a goat.

Now, if we get into the aspect of the real world economics, then there most definitely has to be a correlation to fiat currency, because the business that imports goods from Japan, China or India will have to pay not only for the goods, but the shipping costs, the excise taxes, as well as import duties and then employee wages to stock and sell those goods. You would never be able to pay all those costs without having a set value to them based on something...somewhere...

Currency has come a long ways since trading four smooth shiny stones for a dead magpie, and crypto currencies are just another step on that path.  

[dragonseer]

I try to talk about both. If the price is moving, (which it is right now) it is worth a mention.

As with all crypto price is a must. But i do really hope one day in the near future we can get away from looking at prices and converting them for dolars, euros, yens and whatnot's. Whole point of crypto was essentionally not a way to get more of those but instead to create an alternative currency!
So when you can try to think value not price. (yes, its a difference and its big)

Price is what you sell it for -> get more of the dying and corrupt goverment controlled fiat.
Value is what you can get for it -> trading for stuff you might want/need.

I realise ofc this is a uthopian thought as we all are in some way driven by greed. And even when trading merchants will look for a price to match a trade. But the more people try to abandon the tought of price the more crypto will flourish as it was once intended.

http://behindthecoin.com/threads/126-The-creation-of-value?highlight=creation

The whole concept of crypto currencies is, and always will be about "Money" and the "Value" of the crypto coin. No matter how much you hope that the day will come that crypto's will not be valued in proportion to any fiat currency, that day will never come...sorry to say.

You're wrong. Central banks and debt swapping go along with fiat currency, there's no reason why cryptos can't replace them in the long run. To say they will always co-exist implies they will become the same thing. If you can get paid in cryptos and use them for all merchant transactions, then fiat just becomes a relic. On the other hand if institutions start lending you cryptos and courts punish you for not repaying them then the fiat system has just migrated to the digital space.

[paspi]

I moved my wallet today because it was on win xp.  It started minting like crazy but one mined transaction still has zero confirms after over 6 hours and it says the net amount is a negative number.  any ideas?  also there are confirmed mints before and after this one

Prob just an orphaned block.  Did one verify after that was roughly the same amount?

The second and third mints after that were about the same amount.  How long til it shows as orphaned?

I think it will just stay the way it is, but never confirm.

That's an orphaned PoS block, it won't confirm anymore. You can ignore the net amount it shows in transaction details.

When you create a PoS block, you send out a transaction back to yourself with an included "negative fee". That negative fee becomes your positive minted amount. If the block gets orphaned, UI shows the sent amount as negative, although there's no change in your balance (or coinage) because nothing's sent or received. It's a display issue in transactions UI and in show transaction details -- they need to display the information with more details not to confuse anyone.

[Beaverslayer]

You're wrong. Central banks and debt swapping go along with fiat currency, there's no reason why cryptos can't replace them in the long run. To say they will always co-exist implies they will become the same thing. If you can get paid in cryptos and use them for all merchant transactions, then fiat just becomes a relic. On the other hand if institutions start lending you cryptos and courts punish you for not repaying them then the fiat system has just migrated to the digital space.

As much as we all would love for this to happen, it never will as we are witnessing right now with governments (China) Threatening banks if they do business with crypto currency exchanges. I know and understand the "Concept" behind BTC and the rest of the crypto world, but this does not take away from the fact that fiat will always be a government controlled currency.

As far as them becoming the "Same Thing", basically they are. It's no different if I went down to the river and panned a few nuggets of gold, I can then exchange that for fiat, or trade it for goods and services at some places that will accept it for what it's worth....Based on Fiat...

Cryptos will never ever replace fiat currencies, at best, after a very long period of time, they will co-exist with each other at best. I also think that within a year, you'll see far less altcoins still in existence. There are just far too many coins being released every week and this has so much to do with existing coins losing value. It's like the iPhone craze, every so often a new iPhone is released and everyone rushes out to get one, then when the next one comes out, they do it all over again....but where are all those old iPhone's now, and how much are they worth?

Satoshi designed and developed a wonderful thing, the problem being, is that a select few with deep pockets saw the potential to turn it into a means to fill those deep pockets further and now we have to accept that fact and move forward with changes along the way. You are going to see in the next year or so, governments starting to impose regulations on BTC and altcoins, for the simple fact that they want their cut as well, and once this happens, fiat and cryptos are then married to each other.

[Kergekoin]

Anyone wants to get rid of their MINT. Heres a way to trade some for good hardware:

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=566238.msg6169027#msg6169027