[pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★

[Brackle]

I too was mining from the first day (hell I even defended sevo and coin from Walruse and his shady peeps).  And I have a totally different view then you.   Sure maybe I didnt invest as much as you,  but welcome to the Crypto-stock exchange,  Where you make bank,  or go broke.

Bitching to Sevo who was pretty honest about it isn't going to fix anything.  So stop being a big baby grow some balls and move on from your bad investment.   Everyone else has.

since 2 day im in others things.

if it's okay for you that iSEVOQUE in a post say onething and two pages later says otherwise, I DONT.

I trusted sevoque too.
and then I saw he dumped four days ago.
and dont wanted to show his blockchain.
the scammer shows a picture of his wallet .................

is all in thread, maybe you want to read all before say that kind of things.

Mate Sevoque is bad as imho he was part of it but what is your opinion of Wolong? Can you elaborate as you seem to defend the faggot who caused most of the damage to the coin.

well if you want to know.
here i loose some money. 200-300USD, a bit, other loose more i know. Other like sevoque earn 4000-5000USD.... wolong earn a LOT.

I dont like people who wishing harm to children, i dont like people who scam others.

Do you have you aswer?

Pretty simple.  Wolong scammed us (which everyone was warned would happen).  He also wanted to hurt Children.

Sevo didn't scam us nor wish harm on children.  It just sucks for him because he is  part of the Pandacoin scam so he is guilty by association.

I made around $600-700 so I aint bitching.   But if you gamble on a High risk High reward coin,  you take that chance.

Brackle did you read when sevoque said yesterday that he dont sold anything?
and a few post after one show us his blockchain and he dump 4 day ago.

Doesn't matter to me if he lie's or not I am just stating facts.  He isn't/wasn't a Dev or Investor.  Now I am not saying he didn't lie in forum posts,  but he was right as he wasn't suppose to hold.

Sure he was shady on when he sold his coins,  but was not a dev/investor so he had no need to hold them. I mean it was only 4 million coins. 

Now if Sevo sold lets say 500 million,  or even a 100 million ok I can see it being a big deal.  But it was 4 million....He could of sold his whole 20 million he received if he wanted.

I am not defending him,  Just stating the fact he was not a DEV/Investor who was told to hold for 6 months.

10 mil

Alright 10 mil....why does it matter if he wasn't suppose to hold?  Sure he might have lied in posts that he didn't sell thats all on him to explain.   but he wasnt one of the DEVS/Investor who were told to hold for 6 months.  So he shouldn't have to explain himself why he sold.

Now stating 1 thing in a forum post,  and people posting evidence showing something totally different in another post.  Thats on Sevo to explain.

Everyone was supposed to hold, I told everyone to hold in public and pm not to dump the shares I gave them.

I am not mad at them for dumping, but there was definitely a discussion with everyone about how we aren't just dumping our shares.

Well thats an easy fix then.  Post the proof?  From what I read on the front page.  It was the DEVS/Investors who were told to hold for 6 months.  Sevo wasn't one of those.  I didn't come up with that on my own.  I read that on the very first past of this thread.

I mean 20 million premined coins isnt really an investment.  I mean shit some people had that many coins after day 1....so yea.

Basically it sounds like there was a huge flaw in the communication between everyone and the first post of this thread.  

I mean it really doesn't matter now since everyone bailed and the coin is dead.

P.S. And to Walruse.  I don't know if you are on wolongs group,  nor do I care.  All I know you are a shady promoter of another coin who will do anything to put down another coin to promote yours.   99% of people who promote will do almost anything they can to promote.

[holimem]

PLZ help me , i put all my money into PANDA,OMG
i want my money back now.fuck this shit!Scamcoin!!why did u make this shit?
My wife was left me .How should i go on my life?

[Molly Machine]

https://i.imgur.com/OwPXRCf.png

^ lol. Some people. I'm already in 50+ BTC debt buddy, sorry I can't help you out. A bit busy managing the Zoo donation and foundation. Hope you understand.

[Carbonrod]

P.S. And to Walruse.  I don't know if you are on wolongs group,  nor do I care.  All I know you are a shady promoter of another coin who will do anything to put down another coin to promote yours.   99% of people who promote will do almost anything they can to promote.

Dude, are you blind?  Everyone ITT shilling PND was doing so to call attention to the scammer that is Wolong.  Why do you think the coin says "Don't Trust Wolong"?

I mean, goddamn, dozens of us have been working on supplying IRC logs, screenshots and testimonials about him to warn people.  Not to mention that some of us suffered belligerent personal attacks, thanks to Wolong and his shills as a result, up until they crashed and burned HARD.  They even went to go so far as to dump PND once it hit an exchange to 1 satoshi, which is hilarious in retrospect since now it's nearly more valuable than this PANDA shitcoin that nobody with a functioning brain has any faith in.

[Brackle]

P.S. And to Walruse.  I don't know if you are on wolongs group,  nor do I care.  All I know you are a shady promoter of another coin who will do anything to put down another coin to promote yours.   99% of people who promote will do almost anything they can to promote.

Dude, are you blind?  Everyone ITT shilling PND was doing so to call attention to the scammer that is Wolong.  Why do you think the coin says "Don't Trust Wolong"?

I mean, goddamn, dozens of us have been working on supplying IRC logs, screenshots and testimonials about him to warn people.  Not to mention that some of us suffered belligerent personal attacks, thanks to Wolong and his shills as a result, up until they crashed and burned HARD.  They even went to go so far as to dump PND once it hit an exchange to 1 satoshi, which is hilarious in retrospect since now it's nearly more valuable than this PANDA shitcoin that nobody with a functioning brain has any faith in.

I totally agree with you.

Doesnt take away the fact that Walruse is a shady promoter of a coin that was made to combat wolong.  So people should take PDN seriously because it was ment to go against PANDA.

Great lets all go mine PDN which isnt a serious coin.  It was a coin to combat a coin that had someone people didn't like.   Same logo basically with a few changes.

Yes lets take PDN seriously!

[Walruse]

P.S. And to Walruse.  I don't know if you are on wolongs group,  nor do I care.  All I know you are a shady promoter of another coin who will do anything to put down another coin to promote yours.   99% of people who promote will do almost anything they can to promote.

Dude, are you blind?  Everyone ITT shilling PND was doing so to call attention to the scammer that is Wolong.  Why do you think the coin says "Don't Trust Wolong"?

I mean, goddamn, dozens of us have been working on supplying IRC logs, screenshots and testimonials about him to warn people.  Not to mention that some of us suffered belligerent personal attacks, thanks to Wolong and his shills as a result, up until they crashed and burned HARD.  They even went to go so far as to dump PND once it hit an exchange to 1 satoshi, which is hilarious in retrospect since now it's nearly more valuable than this PANDA shitcoin that nobody with a functioning brain has any faith in.

I totally agree with you.

Doesnt take away the fact that Walruse is a shady promoter of a coin that was made to combat wolong.  So people should take PDN seriously because it was ment to go against PANDA.

Great lets all go mine PDN which isnt a serious coin.  It was a coin to combat a coin that had someone people didn't like.   Same logo basically with a few changes.

Yes lets take PDN seriously!

It's PND, it was made PND intentionally (Pump n Dump) to laugh at all of you.

[Brackle]

P.S. And to Walruse.  I don't know if you are on wolongs group,  nor do I care.  All I know you are a shady promoter of another coin who will do anything to put down another coin to promote yours.   99% of people who promote will do almost anything they can to promote.

Dude, are you blind?  Everyone ITT shilling PND was doing so to call attention to the scammer that is Wolong.  Why do you think the coin says "Don't Trust Wolong"?

I mean, goddamn, dozens of us have been working on supplying IRC logs, screenshots and testimonials about him to warn people.  Not to mention that some of us suffered belligerent personal attacks, thanks to Wolong and his shills as a result, up until they crashed and burned HARD.  They even went to go so far as to dump PND once it hit an exchange to 1 satoshi, which is hilarious in retrospect since now it's nearly more valuable than this PANDA shitcoin that nobody with a functioning brain has any faith in.

I totally agree with you.

Doesnt take away the fact that Walruse is a shady promoter of a coin that was made to combat wolong.  So people should take PDN seriously because it was ment to go against PANDA.

Great lets all go mine PDN which isnt a serious coin.  It was a coin to combat a coin that had someone people didn't like.   Same logo basically with a few changes.

Yes lets take PDN seriously!

It's PND, it was made PND intentionally (Pump n Dump) to laugh at all of you.

Gotcha so a fake coin going against a now scam coin.  Yes you are 1 badass promoter.

[Walruse]

P.S. And to Walruse.  I don't know if you are on wolongs group,  nor do I care.  All I know you are a shady promoter of another coin who will do anything to put down another coin to promote yours.   99% of people who promote will do almost anything they can to promote.

Dude, are you blind?  Everyone ITT shilling PND was doing so to call attention to the scammer that is Wolong.  Why do you think the coin says "Don't Trust Wolong"?

I mean, goddamn, dozens of us have been working on supplying IRC logs, screenshots and testimonials about him to warn people.  Not to mention that some of us suffered belligerent personal attacks, thanks to Wolong and his shills as a result, up until they crashed and burned HARD.  They even went to go so far as to dump PND once it hit an exchange to 1 satoshi, which is hilarious in retrospect since now it's nearly more valuable than this PANDA shitcoin that nobody with a functioning brain has any faith in.

I totally agree with you.

Doesnt take away the fact that Walruse is a shady promoter of a coin that was made to combat wolong.  So people should take PDN seriously because it was ment to go against PANDA.

Great lets all go mine PDN which isnt a serious coin.  It was a coin to combat a coin that had someone people didn't like.   Same logo basically with a few changes.

Yes lets take PDN seriously!

It's PND, it was made PND intentionally (Pump n Dump) to laugh at all of you.

Gotcha so a fake coin going against a now scam coin.  Yes you are 1 badass promoter.

Thanks friend 

[Carbonrod]

P.S. And to Walruse.  I don't know if you are on wolongs group,  nor do I care.  All I know you are a shady promoter of another coin who will do anything to put down another coin to promote yours.   99% of people who promote will do almost anything they can to promote.

Dude, are you blind?  Everyone ITT shilling PND was doing so to call attention to the scammer that is Wolong.  Why do you think the coin says "Don't Trust Wolong"?

I mean, goddamn, dozens of us have been working on supplying IRC logs, screenshots and testimonials about him to warn people.  Not to mention that some of us suffered belligerent personal attacks, thanks to Wolong and his shills as a result, up until they crashed and burned HARD.  They even went to go so far as to dump PND once it hit an exchange to 1 satoshi, which is hilarious in retrospect since now it's nearly more valuable than this PANDA shitcoin that nobody with a functioning brain has any faith in.

I totally agree with you.

Doesnt take away the fact that Walruse is a shady promoter of a coin that was made to combat wolong.  So people should take PDN seriously because it was ment to go against PANDA.

Great lets all go mine PDN which isnt a serious coin.  It was a coin to combat a coin that had someone people didn't like.   Same logo basically with a few changes.

Yes lets take PDN seriously!

The way I look at this situation is that, amongst the dozens of scrypt and Doge clones being developed recently, technological innovations can clearly take a back seat in favor of a positive community.

You can view PND as an honest coin with a core group of ardent supports of the whole crypto scene, that just happened to band together to try and protect the community at large from what they saw as a toxic force in Wolong and his backers.  I think we proved ourselves a bit on this, when none of us went into this expecting to gain anything from it, and only mined and posted to spread awareness and knowledge of the entire subject at hand here, and also to tip out laughably large amounts of coins for no real reason.  Nobody was in this for any personal gain, and dedicated a lot of man hours just into trying to keep people from being ripped off by this con artist, which could have really gone either way, if not for his enormous ego.

Mining and supporting PND will boil down to choosing to participate with like minded individuals and sending a signal that you want cryptos to grow in a healthy and transparent fashion and to just have fun with magic internet money.

I'm not a spokesman for the coin, so these are just my two cents on the matter.

[KryptoKings]

PLZ help me , i put all my money into PANDA,OMG
i want my money back now.fuck this shit!Scamcoin!!why did u make this shit?
My wife was left me .How should i go on my life?

Never bet what you can't afford to lose... rule #1 of trading ... too early to panic. imagine those who bought Bitcoin @ $1100+???

[Legend21]

I think MollyMachine and Wolong might be 1 person . Or of course know eachother in real life. They playing this game together.

[Kestrel71]

You can view PND as an honest coin

That PND is as bad as PANDA, just it is riding of the back of this one. A coin that was created to sabotage another coin and confuse many people in my books is just as scum ridden and also should be stayed clear off.

[holimem]

Rent me some BTC guys...

I lost my life.

[Carbonrod]

You can view PND as an honest coin

That PND is as bad as PANDA, just it is riding of the back of this one. A coin that was created to sabotage another coin and confuse many people in my books is just as scum ridden and also should be stayed clear off.

Oh please, it's as transparent as you can possibly get, and the people that were "tricked" into mining it now have a coin that's on it's way to being traded higher than this garbage.  Sorry to the ones that ragedumped at 1 Sato.

Nice job totally glossing over everything I said though.  If you wanna hop on and join the PND fun then feel free.

EDIT:  Apparently PND has become more valuable than PANDA since it's basic scrypt and you aren't losing half your hashes.  Currently trading at 7-9 sato, while the scamcoin is at a solid 9, and I'm shocked it's even that high.

Have fun~

[Walruse]

You can view PND as an honest coin

That PND is as bad as PANDA, just it is riding of the back of this one. A coin that was created to sabotage another coin and confuse many people in my books is just as scum ridden and also should be stayed clear off.

It was all done to stop people from being scammed. There is no premine/IPO so i'm not sure where anybody can scam you with it. It's a level playing field. There is no entrance fee and there is no catch.

[Legend21]

Its simple.. Wolong is gone.. and now have made deal with Jacobux to give him more millions of coins that wolong has left.
And now devs are cashing out till there is satoshi 1. and then bye bye bitcoin world.

[ghur]

So, did everyone finally learn a lesson about premine?

[JTB800]

This is like a multi-car pileup -- one can't help but watch!

For all of you who believed even in the medium term success of this coin, you should really stop playing in this crypto-coin world immediately.

And for you miners who swoop in and pretend to be "enthusiastic" on every forum, you really should be ashamed of yourselves. You had to know the collective IQ of this "community" was somewhere in the undetectable category. If you lost money -- well, cry me a river.

However, everyone should really stop whining and moaning and figure out what to do now.

If you think it is going to zero, well, man up and sell, take your losses and go on to the next project.

If the price is now so low that you just as soon hold onto them -- do that.

Only a few people really know what is going on, and they aren't telling apparently. But, if one wanted to assure that they could get more cheap PANDA, then this entire mess is a great way to do it. There are some very large players that could pump this thing right back up if they wanted to. This time with even more money to do it with.

I'm not saying that is what is happening, but I wouldn't be surprised. It would only take a new announcement that there were some snags, but they have been straightened out and they are ready to support the community again.

This whole debacle is just too cut and dried -- it's as if every prediction that those warning against this coin happened and then some.

Will more pumping and dumping happen in this coin before it dies? No one knows, but don't be surprised. But, remember that last part -- the coin will die sooner or later. 
 

[hashpuppy]

Move on people.  This coin is amazing technologically and from the marketing perspective, it is just that major backers of this coin are emotionally unstable.  I will just mine them and sold rightaway to any buyer as the diff has gone down basically. My electricity is free anyway.  

[Carbonrod]

So, did everyone finally learn a lesson about premine?

Probably not.