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[XbladeX]

I removed the .conf file from the folder and restarted the .bat file and got this message:

https://i.imgur.com/n1SV7P4.jpg

I don't have the ckolivas.cl or ./kernal/ckolivas.cl files in the sgminer folder?

https://i.imgur.com/QXng5Xa.jpg

Yes try cgminer 3.7.2.
Or find version with those missing files

[mr_random]

Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Whilst it would be amazing I think realistically a Coinbase type service coming on board this early is unlikely. Remember the big problem with running a fiat exchange is regulation (compliance on a day to day basis and then the cost of having the relevant licenses). So I can't see someone here setting up a service like this for Blackcoin from scratch either.

Instead I think we should focus on the simple easy things, such as making blackcoin.co as user friendly as possible and also as you say prominently directing visitors towards an exchange.

The best route into Blackcoin is probably still by buying Bitcoins. Perhaps we could even have on blackcoin.co the steps eg buy 1 bitcoin at coinbase at this link, then sign up for free at mintpal and place a buy order for 1btc worth of blackcoins.

[futile-resistance]

Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

I think there are a couple blackcoin exchanges in the works.

We also need a dummy-proof guide for mining at the multipool on the site.

edit: Moolah's Prelude.io has blackcoin/usd.

[Jabulon]

I dont understand PoS.  How can you get any coins if you dont already have coins?

you can only generate coins via PoS with the coins you already have in your wallet. If you don't have any blackcoins already see my post above.

Should I use a faucet?

If you're a miner, you can mine with us at blackcoinpool.com. Pays out daily at Midnight EST.

How can you mine if its PoS?

You must be new here lol. You mine at the Blackcoin multipool, which mines PoW coins and uses the proceeds to buy up Blackcoin, and pay out in Blackcoin to its miners. It's beautiful. It's brilliant. It's badass.

Now, what some people don't realize about the multipool is that, if it didn't exist, the vast majority of us mining there would be doing independently and individually what it does collectively: mining other coins and trading out for Blackcoin.

Its main function is two-fold:
--It solidifies the community
--It makes it a lot more convenient to trade into the coin we want, thereby increasing participation (many of us would find it tiresome to do all that trading).

Is the Blackcoin pool in itself detrimental to other coins? No. First, because we'd individually be dumping many other coins anyway as just mentioned. Secondly and more importantly, because we are adding liquidity to the other markets and in fact creating buying opportunities for people interested NOT in Blackcoin, but the other coins whose price may dip when when the pool sells. This latter point may be hard for noobs to get their heads around. But anyone who was into BTC last year will remember the strange feeling of fervently wishing its price would drop sharply, so they could buy more. Decent coins, just like quality stocks, will see buying interest kick in when the price is attractive. That's how markets work. So if you hear us talk about 'crushing' other coins, forgive us. We are just stoked about Blackcoin and get a little rowdy, just like fans do at a football game. It's just human nature and totally harmless.

[STT]

A localbc is probably more feasible then trying to exchange cash

So 365 BC should more or less give another 1 coin per day per wallet

No, it's 1/365% per day so 365 coins = 365*0.000027397 = 0.01 coin per day

That figures, my maths is bad 

[alison03]

I agree that the section "buy blackcoin" could probably be moved so it's just under the wallet download section. I remember early marketing classes that always said people who visit websites (for information or out of curiosity...not an invested user) are much less inclined to click around or scroll down and are more interested in what is right there on their screen - attention spans are short (initially) so ease and simplicity are big to hook in new people.

[IconicExpert]

Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Whilst it would be amazing I think realistically a Coinbase type service coming on board this early is unlikely. Remember the big problem with running a fiat exchange is regulation (compliance on a day to day basis and then the cost of having the relevant licenses). So I can't see someone here setting up a service like this for Blackcoin from scratch either.

Instead I think we should focus on the simple easy things, such as making blackcoin.co as user friendly as possible and also as you say prominently directing visitors towards an exchange.

The best route into Blackcoin is probably still by buying Bitcoins. Perhaps we could even have on blackcoin.co the steps eg buy 1 bitcoin at coinbase at this link, then sign up for free at mintpal and place a buy order for 1btc worth of blackcoins.

I agree 100%. However, services like Coinbase are not going to be able to last long if they do not branch out to other coins. In regards to BlackCoin, it is hard to tell an "old school" investor he/she should buy BlackCoins and try to walk them through the current process. For us it easy, for the non techie it is nearly impossible.

[pym002]

hello,

is that some one has news about cryptorush? my BC are still stuck on the platform as well as my bitcoins!
thank you in advance for your answers

[maarx]

hello,

is that some one has news about cryptorush? my BC are still stuck on the platform as well as my bitcoins!
thank you in advance for your answers

Hm. They are insolvent and they probably will be for a while.

[TheGift73]

I removed the .conf file from the folder and restarted the .bat file and got this message:

https://i.imgur.com/n1SV7P4.jpg

I don't have the ckolivas.cl or ./kernal/ckolivas.cl files in the sgminer folder?

https://i.imgur.com/QXng5Xa.jpg

Yes try cgminer 3.7.2.
Or find version with those missing files

Done it!!! Stats also starting to show on Blackcoin Pool

Completely my error when extracting the sgminer data from .zip. Omitted to extract the kernel file that contained the necessary .cl files.

Changed I: to 10 from 13 as I am watching Netflix and surfing etc. Will increase later.

https://i.imgur.com/wYictt3.jpg

My hash is average of 59.72Kh/s at the mo, which I know I can improve by tweaking the options in the .conf file.

Code:

{
"pools" : [
	{
		"url" : "stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333",
		"user" : "BCE3Sz6QDA4QRH1vXuGExNcfU2XS4ekZZy",
		"pass" : "xxxxxxxxx"
	
	}
]
,
"intensity" : "10", this I changed to 10 from 13 as currently watching Netflix and it starts to lag a bit
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "ckolivas",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8192", This is changes as per Litecoin Hardware sheet - https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "900",
"gpu-fan" : "30-90",
"gpu-memclock" : "1200",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "10",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true
}

Launch - Scrypt.bat working file:

Code:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
sgminer -o stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333 -u BCE3Sz6QDA4QRH1vXuGExNcfU2XS4ekZZy -p xxxxxxxxx

I haven't changed any other options in the .conf due to not knowing what exactly they do.

My card is a AMD Radeon HD 7870, so if anyone else has any suggestions or mines using this GPU, can you give me some config tips to get my Kh/s up (unless that is the best I can do - not sure?)

Can XbladeX, SunnyIgor DM or post their BC Address so I can send some coins for helping me.

I'll leave up the final .conf and .bat files as it may help someone else out. Not easy when you have no clue where to start, so glad of the assist.

[Miner232432]

We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Why would "Grandma" want to exchange fiat for blackcoin to buy things she could buy with fiat in the first place ?

Let's not kid ourselves here, if you're trying to target Grandma or even average Joe then you're targeting the wrong demographic because using anything but fiat would be an inconvenience to them and they will not appreciate the value of crypto currency over the current shackles of fiat.

To make crypto's successful we need to bring in more people from the tech world first to pioneer these currencies before we get the general populace on board, if we had it so kids badgering their parents couldn't buy the latest games or technology without having crypto's to buy them with then it would essentially go a hell of a long way to breaking free from fiat which is the core ethos of crypto's.

Target indie developers, bring those people on board because they are the future for the ever expanding tech world and technology is the future

[futile-resistance]

Can we do this?


While we wait for the press release, there is one thing that needs to be fixed to maximize our ROI.

When visiting BlackCoin.co I immediately notice that the "Buy BlackCoin" section is way below the fold. The Buy BlackCoin section should be above the fold and should be one of the first elements the visitor sees when visiting the homepage. When people read our press release they are going to visit BlackCoin.co, and they might want to buy a few BlackCoins. We have to make it easy as possible for them to get their hands on BlackCoin.

Unfortunately for the average person not familiar with crypto-currencies, using an exchange to buy coins is a daunting task. First you have to convert Fiat to BTC or some other crypto-currency, and then send that currency to an exchange, and then trade that currency for BlackCoin. The average person will never be able to do that. We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Whilst it would be amazing I think realistically a Coinbase type service coming on board this early is unlikely. Remember the big problem with running a fiat exchange is regulation (compliance on a day to day basis and then the cost of having the relevant licenses). So I can't see someone here setting up a service like this for Blackcoin from scratch either.

Instead I think we should focus on the simple easy things, such as making blackcoin.co as user friendly as possible and also as you say prominently directing visitors towards an exchange.

The best route into Blackcoin is probably still by buying Bitcoins. Perhaps we could even have on blackcoin.co the steps eg buy 1 bitcoin at coinbase at this link, then sign up for free at mintpal and place a buy order for 1btc worth of blackcoins.

I agree 100%. However, services like Coinbase are not going to be able to last long if they do not branch out to other coins. In regards to BlackCoin, it is hard to tell an "old school" investor he/she should buy BlackCoins and try to walk them through the current process. For us it easy, for the non techie it is nearly impossible.

Prelude.io has fiat/bc and btc/bc, they're pursuing full finCEN compliance and are registered in Wyoming. A Coinbase type service might not be as far away as you guys think. Moolah will be putting out ATMs soon as well, so if we have enough volume on Prelude, it's likely we'll be on their ATMs as well.

[Don007]

Does anyone know why BlackCoinPool only shows half of my hashrate? I mine with about 590 Kh/s, and it only shows about 270 kh/s.

What causes this? How to fix it?

[takkaros]

How many BC's will the multipool pay per MH approximitely?

[futile-resistance]

How many BC's will the multipool pay per MH approximitely?

About 80 at the current price I think.

[takkaros]

Does anyone know why BlackCoinPool only shows half of my hashrate? I mine with about 590 Kh/s, and it only shows about 270 kh/s.

What causes this? How to fix it?

Give it some time to stabilise. It should be closer to cgminer's "WU" value instead of your raw hashrate, as far as I know.


Thanks futile!

[JamesR1]

Prelude.io has fiat/bc and btc/bc, they're pursuing full finCEN compliance and are registered in Wyoming. A Coinbase type service might not be as far away as you guys think. Moolah will be putting out ATMs soon as well, so if we have enough volume on Prelude, it's likely we'll be on their ATMs as well.

I did just use http://www.virwox.com successfully. You have to buy some linden dollars, which fast transfer to bitcoin. You get the current rate then it takes 48hrs (seems long) to get to you for a new customer. It's not fast to receive your coin, there's the normal fee but it felt fast and safe. They have different fiat options.
Prelude could be great. But the options are really tricky and limited for people.

[Ziploc]

Hi, about a week ago, I had some help via a couple (JamesR1 and XbladeX) of members here with some issues I was having setting up my config files. I know that this will probable seem very simple to most of you, but I am having a nightmare getting my head around it. With BlackFriday looming around the corner, I would like to get myself up and running if possible.

Original enquiry:

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=469640.msg5896117#msg5896117

I have entered my BC Address via My Miner over at Blackcoin Pool.com

Here is my sgminer.conf file text:

Code:

{
"pools" : [
	{
		"url" : "stratum+tcp://blackcoinpool.com:3333",
		"user" : "MyBCAddress",
		"pass" : "xxxxxxxxxxx"
	
	}
]
,
"intensity" : "13",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "ckolivas",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "24000",
"shaders" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"gpu-engine" : "900",
"gpu-fan" : "30-90",
"gpu-memclock" : "1200",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0.000",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"expiry" : "10",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "7",
"tcp-keepalive" : "30",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"no-client-reconnect" : true
}

Here is the text contained within the Launch - Scrypt.bat file:

Code:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
Color 0A
sgminer

I then double click on Launch - Scrypt.bat that is in the sgminer-4.1.153-v2 that I downloaded from sgminerwindows.com, but always get this error message?

https://i.imgur.com/isH2xXF.jpg

All the files that are contained within the sgminer that I downloaded are these:

https://i.imgur.com/ZRpHa23.jpg

My card is a AMD Radeon Sapphire HD 7870

Can someone let me know what or where I am going wrong as I have been trying many different settings this evening, but nothing seems to work.

I recommend you use GUIMiner-Scrypt..it's much easier to set-up

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=150331.0

[IconicExpert]

We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Why would "Grandma" want to exchange fiat for blackcoin to buy things she could buy with fiat in the first place ?

Let's not kid ourselves here, if you're trying to target Grandma or even average Joe then you're targeting the wrong demographic because using anything but fiat would be an inconvenience to them and they will not appreciate the value of crypto currency over the current shackles of fiat.

To make crypto's successful we need to bring in more people from the tech world first to pioneer these currencies before we get the general populace on board, if we had it so kids badgering their parents couldn't buy the latest games or technology without having crypto's to buy them with then it would essentially go a hell of a long way to breaking free from fiat which is the core ethos of crypto's.

Target indie developers, bring those people on board because they are the future for the ever expanding tech world and technology is the future

Did you read what I wrote? There are two uses for crypto-currencies.

1.) People use them to invest.
2.) People use them to buy things.

I am an investor but I also happen to be a techie. I have many Wall Street friends who would be thrilled with a 1000%+ ROI in less than seven weeks. However, trying to explain how to buy BlackCoin is a task. Yes it would be great to be able to buy real things with BlackCoin, but we cannot forget that what also keeps any currency relevant are the investors. That is also true for Fiat currencies (Forex)

The problem with the crypto-currency community is the majority of the community thinks we should focus on the tech world first. That is just a very small % of the population. For any crypto-currency to succeed it will have to be Grandma proof.  As big as Bitcoin is, if you still ask the average individual about Bitcoin they would not have a clue what you were talking about. And when you introduce someone new to Bitcoin the learning curve is too much for most people. That needs to change....

[Miner232432]

We need a service like CoinBase that will make it easy for the "grandma" investor to be able to buy BlackCoins without the extra steps. We as a community need to come up with a solution for that in the near future.

Why would "Grandma" want to exchange fiat for blackcoin to buy things she could buy with fiat in the first place ?

Let's not kid ourselves here, if you're trying to target Grandma or even average Joe then you're targeting the wrong demographic because using anything but fiat would be an inconvenience to them and they will not appreciate the value of crypto currency over the current shackles of fiat.

To make crypto's successful we need to bring in more people from the tech world first to pioneer these currencies before we get the general populace on board, if we had it so kids badgering their parents couldn't buy the latest games or technology without having crypto's to buy them with then it would essentially go a hell of a long way to breaking free from fiat which is the core ethos of crypto's.

Target indie developers, bring those people on board because they are the future for the ever expanding tech world and technology is the future

Did you read what I wrote? There are two uses for crypto-currencies.

1.) People use them to invest.
2.) People use them to buy things.

I am an investor but I also happen to be a techie. I have many Wall Street friends who would be thrilled with a 1000%+ ROI in less than seven weeks. However, trying to explain how to buy BlackCoin is a task. Yes it would be great to be able to buy real things with BlackCoin, but we cannot forget that what also keeps any currency relevant are the investors. That is also true for Fiat currencies (Forex)

So essentially you're doing all this so you can get people to pump the price then dump for 1000% ROI

What keeps any currency relevant is daily trading at a stable level, it's why fiat is so successful and so hard to break away from because I know that I can buy a Mars bar for 40p and will likely be able to buy another in 6 months time for 40p. The same cannot be said for crypto's just in a month BC has gone from 2k to 500 to 4k to 8k to 4k to 5k to 6k. For any of these coins to be taken seriously we need long term stability and people coming in for 1000% ROI are not the people we want to make these coins successful because they're just going to create even greater instability with their initial pump and eventual dump.

When we can back our crypto's against real world items be it niche gadgets or indie games or something completely out of the box in order to have stability then we can start attracting the general populace because as long as our crypto's are backed against fiat they're never going to stable or taken seriously