hellohellooo
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April 10, 2014, 12:20:41 AM |
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It is not real because there is no intent of actually using it to buy. It is only being placed there to influence other people into buying in front of it.. People are willing to buy at that price because they are tricked into thinking that is the real current price. You are right; it is a very common market manipulation tactic. One to be vary wary of because it indicates there isn’t enough real support to maintain the current level..
The idea that this is better for the market is ludicrous. It is only better for the short-term benefits of those who are already heavily invested in BC. But this makes it a very bad time for new, big, investors to join in if they are smart enough to see what is going on.
you can't make the claim.. you don't know. it hasn't even been tested yet. you have completely discredited your own argument. now yes.. of course it could be fake, but you are asserting that you "know", when in fact, nothing has been proven yet. how do we know the 40btc sell wall is real also? we don't. it ain't been hit. i know you are not new to markets, you talk the talk.. so i assume you know all of this already. You are right the sell walls very well could be fake as well, or not. The big difference is, we know that the buy wall is fake because it has been said that it is fake. Because of that simple fact there is no need to "test" it and my argument is in noway discredited by it having not been tested. Nonetheless, if it were tested I imagine it would get pulled. Nobody gunna test a whopper of a wall like that, though, unless they know and have a lot of something.. I just think that, considering this is the time that the marketing has kicked in and we are trying to bring in new and big investors, that the state of the market needs to be real before any new, big investors will consider coming in (most big investors are smart enough to read the markets). That is why I think this is bad in the long run. Anyways rant over. Sorry the intrusion.
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johnngbluntzky
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April 10, 2014, 12:24:10 AM |
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hellohellooo, i mean no disrespect.. but i think we are arguing semantics here. nowhere did i see that the buywall was fake. all he said is that they had established a floor as a reaction to downward pressure. that could be a completely legitimate claim and you know it. this is completely common market behavior, you are just seeing more transparency than you are used to. never did he admit it was fake, that was your perception of his post.
there is no way to know if an order is fake unless it gets hit and the following reaction. this is black and white. read his post again.
if you don't know what i mean and you haven't done it yet, go trade btc/usd. it's common.
btw.. with all the work he's put forth.. i highly doubt he's putting up fake walls.
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Soepkip
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April 10, 2014, 12:25:13 AM |
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blade87
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April 10, 2014, 12:30:20 AM |
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i know you are not new to markets, you talk the talk.. so i assume you know all of this already.
They only like to talk the side that benefits their position. 
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johnngbluntzky
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April 10, 2014, 12:31:19 AM |
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i know you are not new to markets, you talk the talk.. so i assume you know all of this already.
They only like to talk the side that benefits their position.  touche. i need to go get some sun lol..
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HardwarePal
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April 10, 2014, 12:32:22 AM |
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I havent posted here at all but I am very active on the irc channel as africanos. I live in Cyprus just so you guys now. I would like moderndezigns to personally apologize to me for the giveaway as I am shelling out my own $ without even being part of the dev team or know them personally. I am giving away 40% (dollar value ATM) of my wallet in prizes as I believe in Black Coin and the team. I am the person that contacted webbson and got Black Coin on www.poolpicker.eu I did a wallet verification for the Asrock H81 motherboard winner (Jabulon) that you can see on my wallet address for the 0.021 BC transaction - BPBFQLvvkevRBFfq2MKE2tTjEi6T6xC1Lu For those that dont believe in BC or come here just to troll you should find somewhere else to go and "have fun". I am personally losing alot of time and money promoting Black Coin - But hey I LOVE IT !!!!
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phaddie
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April 10, 2014, 12:36:25 AM |
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Seems to crash on 10.9.2. I can supply the error screen if you need it. Phad
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publicjud
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April 10, 2014, 12:38:52 AM |
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Seems to crash on 10.9.2. I can supply the error screen if you need it. Phad Crashes on 10.6 too. Yea, I'm staying old school and stable!
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Join Twetch twet.ch/inv/62d7ae96
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Chiggins
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April 10, 2014, 12:38:55 AM |
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Possibly a stupid question, but based on the website's info about the rpc being disabled by default, does that mean if I was previously using compiled windows binary wallets from the website directly, and simply updated to the latest wallet I shouldn't have to create a new wallet/passkey/etc.? If I do, can someone give me some dumb simple steps to follow to do that? I apologize, but I'd like to update and secure things but want to do it correctly without problems.
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PenguinsDancing
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April 10, 2014, 12:40:04 AM |
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Crashing for me too. 10.9.2
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BEECoinfan
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April 10, 2014, 12:40:35 AM |
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Congratulations on getting added to CoinKite!
Now for anybody wondering what they can do to help BC a very small thing that could be quite productive is:
Ask Cryptsy to add a USD/BC market!
Within the next week they say they are adding USD /BTC/LTC/DOGE/FTC Lets get BC added to that list!
Its just one email!
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IconicExpert
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April 10, 2014, 12:42:13 AM |
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I helped BC to grow by buying it LoL. What else to you want potential investors to do ?
For all you know, once the dumps start half the fanatics posting on here will all have scurried and I'll still be here holding because I know what I bought. (From all the over obsessing about the price, thats what it looks like anyway).
So you haven't done anything... I rest my case... If someone ever figures out a way of making a coin value grow by posting FUD on a forum you will be able to make BC go to 19000 sat easy.
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virtualfaqs
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April 10, 2014, 12:43:10 AM |
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The fact that holders of a coin "value" it in an affectionate sense is no substitute for such an economic role. There are plenty of POS coins out there that can substitute for Blackcoin. So at the moment I'm thinking that this coin's value is based on the multipool effect and some strong promotion. I'm not saying thats bad, I'm just saying it's *it*.
I couldn't find any decent PoS substitutes for BlackCoin. Peercoin - Don't like fixed 0.01 fee. NXT - Don't like fixed 1.0 fee. Faircoin and Mintcoin - You are penalized for sending and receiving coins as your coins have to be in your wallet for 21 days before you accumulate interest. MNT - Lose 20% the first year. FAC - Lose 6% the first year. Why can't there just be a normal PoS coin? There is one right now. It's Blackcoin.
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instacalm
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April 10, 2014, 12:44:21 AM Last edit: April 10, 2014, 01:45:44 AM by instacash |
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Excuse me for the crashing Mac OS X update. I will look into the dependencies causing the crash and fix the issue shortly.
Soepkip, please link to the older wallet for now.
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djslick
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April 10, 2014, 12:44:36 AM |
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The problem with MINT is the 20% PoS gives large holders an incentive to dump the 'free' coins, substantially increasing the selling pressure on the price. The opposite of what BC's low inflation and combined mining pool does.
AAAAND GAME
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toknormal
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April 10, 2014, 12:45:59 AM |
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If someone ever figures out a way of making a coin value grow by posting FUD on a forum you will be able to make BC go to 19000 sat easy Thanks, I might try that sometime  ok, I'll leave you 2 it and stop annoying everybody. Good luck with the coin 
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noerc
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April 10, 2014, 12:46:17 AM |
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johnngbluntzky
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April 10, 2014, 12:49:32 AM |
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Congratulations on getting added to CoinKite!
Now for anybody wondering what they can do to help BC a very small thing that could be quite productive is:
Ask Cryptsy to add a USD/BC market!
Within the next week they say they are adding USD /BTC/LTC/DOGE/FTC Lets get BC added to that list!
Its just one email!
+1000 im tryin to ask @horusisthesun about that on twitter.
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darcius
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April 10, 2014, 12:57:59 AM |
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It has to be visible on the first page Excellent news!! That really is incredible news guys, to be included in Coinkite that allow people & retailers to have Web Wallets, Debit Cards and Payment Terminals is really a great accomplishment and definitely builds a solid foundation to work from. Not to mention it says huge amounts that the only other coins they allow are Bitcoin + Litecoin (not even Dogecoin). Congrats!
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wantrepreneur
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April 10, 2014, 12:59:57 AM |
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The problem with MINT is the 20% PoS gives large holders an incentive to dump the 'free' coins, substantially increasing the selling pressure on the price. The opposite of what BC's low inflation and combined mining pool does.
AAAAND GAME aha yea MINT could gain 15% and graph would still be declining-> 
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