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April 13, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
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be vewry vwry careful

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April 13, 2014, 09:35:47 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.


I wish people would stop writing P&D. At this point It is difficult to P&D this coin.

FYI: I quickly counted the present sell orders all the way up to 66000 sat, it is approximately $83,380. We will be trading at 0.24 cents by the morning Smiley....
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April 13, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
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Right...I love the app but considering what just happened to me im not touching anything from anyone.
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April 13, 2014, 09:37:10 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.


I wish people would stop writing P&D. At this point It is difficult to P&D this coin.

FYI: I quickly counted the present sell orders all the way up to 66000 sat, it is approximately $83,380. We will be trading at .24 cents by the morning Smiley....

I hope you are right, I think that's way too optimistic IMO. Though I didn't think it would 4x over night from 9.5k sat, so who knows Cheesy

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April 13, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
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Attention BC community.

This morning I was hacked for about 2500 BC. My Mintpal and PC were both raided.
I would like to place a bounty on this thief. I have his IP along with my compromised addresses and the addresses he withdrew to. It appears by following the blockchain he has been getting others as well, so for the good of myself and the community he needs to be stopped. I realize my computer has some serious security issues and I am in the process of rebuilding it right now. This man must be stopped though.

here is the IP he used 174.127.99.183

here is 2 of the addresses he withdrew to

BLDniLSRD3E9oc68NGNB6MGnZrWXuoZmn1 - Blackcoin
ZbNSDXFy9HchXu6yDnVvmTdSKfSEjDaSUL - Zetacoin

And here is my blackcoin wallet off my personal computer which he raided for my wallet.dat file, deleted my client and then transferred the funds before I had realized what had happened. I have a backup of the wallet.dat but funds have already been moved.

my wallet - BERRF3gsJaSj3rre4sJk3zvu9bEEs8X6NP
wallet he transferred to -BLDniLSRD3E9oc68NGNB6MGnZrWXuoZmn1


If anyone can help me out it would be very kind this bastard needs to pay.

Which OS you been using?


Forget about your lost coins,they are gone and will not come back!

But here what I have for you-there is only one program in whole world curently what will stop any intruder atacks on your computer.

It uses 2-5 % of your cpu and 24 hour he looking on every folder/scaning for any new .exe files aded wihout your permision.
Program will block any posible new startup and service tryng to add itself wihout your permision.
Program will detect and prevent any changes to important Windows settings.
With these program you will not need any antivirus or any antispyware in your computer exept him itself.

Cost of liftime licence is 1 BTC and I guranty that you will be safe with everything you do on your computer!

Second option is that I can teach you every way how hackers atack ,3-4 hour lesson trough skype and via tv(if you know how they do that obviusly you will know how to prevent that atacks) -0.5 BTC

And dont listen to other people they telling you that you have some keyloger on computer,blabla,keylogers have been used in 2000 year.

YOU HAVE BEEN RATED with DarkComet or Blackshades or Cybergate or PlasmaRAT ... even some botnet is option in your case!

So if any of these 2 option will be good for you fell free to pm me.
 

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April 13, 2014, 09:37:36 PM
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Just thought i should make this before sleep, blackcoin has me up all night ;(

who wants this?
has a nice alarm clock to wake you up if the price goes up/below on what you set



It looks great to me, where can i get this?

I hope you're not going to send buy now link :p

just kidding
I want one as well. How to? You send file or?
I want it too.

Just a warning people, but are you seriously gonna take an .exe from someone on the forums and run it on your machine? Not saying there's bad intent by TheProgrammer here but I don't want more people posting "someone stole my coins"

It looks amazing! You (or someone else) should keep it up and release it as a full programm with different features and different Market support and stuff. Maybe also with a totalvirus scan^^ It is a great idea and seems like an awsome opportunity if you aks me.
(PS I would love to be an alpha tester Grin )

Great idea would love to see it developed further

+1 with the security checks though.... far to easy to lose coins

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April 13, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
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I really like the alarm the gentleman made and also the venture to build a farm in Ethiopia is a wonderful Idea..I will probably donate via paypal later today I think I have some form ptc sites because I am also trying to save my BC to earn enough to get me to reunite with my kid at some point but good idea to take BC.This will help a lot. BC Is going to change the lives of millions of people. Smiley
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April 13, 2014, 09:40:05 PM
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Marketcap over $10,000,000!

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Just thought i should make this before sleep, blackcoin has me up all night ;(

who wants this?
has a nice alarm clock to wake you up if the price goes up/below on what you set



It looks great to me, where can i get this?

I hope you're not going to send buy now link :p

just kidding
I want one as well. How to? You send file or?
I want it too.

Just a warning people, but are you seriously gonna take an .exe from someone on the forums and run it on your machine? Not saying there's bad intent by TheProgrammer here but I don't want more people posting "someone stole my coins"

It looks amazing! You (or someone else) should keep it up and release it as a full programm with different features and different Market support and stuff. Maybe also with a totalvirus scan^^ It is a great idea and seems like an awsome opportunity if you aks me.
(PS I would love to be an alpha tester Grin )

Great idea would love to see it developed further

+1 with the security checks though.... far to easy to lose coins


Thank you everyone for your kind words and the warning guy, they all are right at their place, you should always check the files before you use for your safety, but here is what I scanned for you aswell:

[EDIT-Updated program to fix a little bug, new virus scan and file link is here]
 
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/056fd0bcd6c4fcab51cf56be97d575179bd08a59384e1958ad06a83548f53ad2/analysis/1397427651/

Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/download/tmli5upjfd0kmkx/BlackClock-1.zip

just a little note:

- Make sure you extract the files before using this as this contains an alarm.wav file to play
- you can replace alarm.wav file as you like with your own sound file, but make sure its a wav format and exact same name.

Edit: - If it's asking for a missing file names MSWINSCK.OCX, here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/download/fuqnlccagcj34a0/MSWINSCK.OCX
make sure to keep it in the same folder, and if it still doesn't run you're prolly on windows7 or 8  which requires right clicking the program and run as administrator to register the missing file, this file is to connect to internet to get BC rates.

It was just a little idea i thought could help people out here and me mainly too Smiley If anyone has new ideas to add feel free to PM me or say here Wink
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April 13, 2014, 09:45:01 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.


I wish people would stop writing P&D. At this point It is difficult to P&D this coin.

FYI: I quickly counted the present sell orders all the way up to 66000 sat, it is approximately $83,380. We will be trading at 0.24 cents by the morning Smiley....

Wrong again, just like in the article. Do you have any idea how much 0.24 cents is?
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April 13, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
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Just out of interest, whats the multipool paying per 1Mh currently?
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April 13, 2014, 09:47:27 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.

Although I agree with the point I think you're trying to make... and I certainly agree that the price cannot double infinitely... however, when you consider the amount of BTC/LTC (just what trades on a daily basis, and not including other alts) there is at least $10M-$30M USD actively trading in cryptos.  I do not know the exact float in BC currently, nor do I care to cull this from the various exchanges - but let's say for argument's sake that it's 10M BC... that's actually a really conservative figure - I think it's probably more like 3M but whatever.  If just those actively trading in the BTC/LTC market moved into BC - even temporarily... we've already got our $1 coins...

However, as we both know - it won't be $1 then... because there will be some that sell and were holding previously, but many more that will hold despite planning on selling.  Who doesn't get scared of selling when the price shoots up 50-100% per day.

On the other hand you and others keep going back to the whole 'pump and dump' argument without considering two key points:

1) There are no more coins being mined - so the only price 'dilution' that can occur is if no one wants to buy BC at all... as this is the only thing that could drive the coin downward.

2) The pool generates both buzz, and new investors all the time.  This is much more important that the actual BTC it generates.  But just like was being discussed previously with market cap... just because the pool is only buying 20BTC a day, most of those coins are going to holders - after all, it would be stupid to mine at the bcmultipool... just to dump the BC for BTC - if for no other reason than exchange fees.  So even if the miners don't believe in BC long term - I think most of them are going to hold the BC for at least a couple days... to maximize profits while also hedging against BTC losses.
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April 13, 2014, 09:47:42 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.


I wish people would stop writing P&D. At this point It is difficult to P&D this coin.

FYI: I quickly counted the present sell orders all the way up to 66000 sat, it is approximately $83,380. We will be trading at 0.24 cents by the morning Smiley....

Wrong again, just like in the article. Do you have any idea how much 0.24 cents is?

It's about 50 times less than what we're trading now.. But a bet is a bet Smiley
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April 13, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who hasn't even had time to allocate weekly allowance for blackcoin purchases. Last week 7000, now 34000. This is still cheap and I'll still be pumping funds into it.
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April 13, 2014, 09:51:52 PM
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Anyone else think it's fishy that literally every night the past three nights it cause gone up at the same time?

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April 13, 2014, 09:53:01 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.


I wish people would stop writing P&D. At this point It is difficult to P&D this coin.

FYI: I quickly counted the present sell orders all the way up to 66000 sat, it is approximately $83,380. We will be trading at 0.24 cents by the morning Smiley....

Wrong again, just like in the article. Do you have any idea how much 0.24 cents is?


Yes I do have an idea....0.24 cents like I said! How many times do I have to tell you this is how it is done in America? Anything after the decimal point is cents. Here is an elementary guide to teach you: http://www.wyzant.com/resources/lessons/math/elementary_math/money  Smiley


Edit $1.50 <--- One dollar AND(decimal point) AND fifty cents.
      $150.50  <--- One hundred fifty dollars AND fifty cents.
      $1,500.50 <--- One thousand five hundred AND fifty cents.
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April 13, 2014, 09:53:29 PM
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Anyone else think it's fishy that literally every night the past three nights it cause gone up at the same time?

No, why? Perhaps China? A price increase is never fishy in my eyes.
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April 13, 2014, 09:54:18 PM
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Pointing out a legitimate bubble is not FUD.  There's no uncertainty here.  There are clear patterns in the alternate digital community and I provided two good examples.  Each time there's a downturn in digital currencies some random coin is always pump and then left to die.

 There's no incentive for subsequent investors to come in and buy BC when it's valued at $10 million as the ROI isn't there anymore.  Meanwhile the Whales, who bought in for pennies when the capitalization was less than $100K, have incentive to convert their BC into BTC or a portfolio of new alternates.

People were saying the same thing when it went up to 4890 sat and then dropped to 2000. They said the same thing when it jumped up to 9380 and settled down to 5000. Then it went back up to 9199 and settled down to 7100.

You're not very good at seeing patterns. Perhaps you shouldn't be investing your money in alt coins.

Ad hominem / straw man are logical fallacies and not valid arguments.  Though I didn't expect any better from a blackcoin bagholder.
By the way - it's only my third post on this thread and they were all posted minutes ago, so you're mistaking me with other people.

All I have to do is look at screenshots of Blackcoin and it's a Bitclone with PoS and a few vendors selling novelty merchandise *yawn* - I know a pump and dump when I see one.


My original statement was the proof of my point and was worthy of logic. The ad hominem (a principle you repeated in your reply to me) was an aside and not meant to be proof of my point.

Your statement about BlackCoin is full of personal opinion, which you are most welcome to espouse here but is not a valid argument. None of which you have posted has been with maybe the exception of "No way Multipools are generating over $1 million", yet you fail to elaborate on that. You see, just because people outside Multipools are investing doesn't necessarily make it a bubble.
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April 13, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.


I wish people would stop writing P&D. At this point It is difficult to P&D this coin.

FYI: I quickly counted the present sell orders all the way up to 66000 sat, it is approximately $83,380. We will be trading at 0.24 cents by the morning Smiley....

Wrong again, just like in the article. Do you have any idea how much 0.24 cents is?

It's about 50 times less than what we're trading now.. But a bet is a bet Smiley

50 times less than the price of 1 BC?

GEO, RLC & QRL.
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April 13, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
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You have a very valid point in that it comes down to what existing "float" is traded from the outstanding coins, however, lets take it to an extreme. If all the existing holders of the coins wanted to sell at $1 (unrealistic I know), there would need to be $75 million in investment to absorb it. No one knows when and where people will take profits at, but I'd rather see a slow and gradual rise that allows weak sellers the chance to get out with profits and longs to pick up the available supply than a double after double with no support so when all the sellers want to rush to the exit, there is actually buyers waiting to absorb it all.

...and before anyone thinks of questioning my agenda here, I hold xxx,xxx number of coins.

Why is it when someone starts debating the future value of BlackCoin and they seem as if they have an agenda, they always find a way to slip in how much BC they own? Smiley

lol, I just wanted to let people know that I have skin in the game and am not out to bash the coin for the sake of bashing. I'm not out to wage war on you or BC. I like this coin and don't have any beef with you. I just don't want this to turn into a P&D when the coin could rise steadily and support itself on its own.


I wish people would stop writing P&D. At this point It is difficult to P&D this coin.

FYI: I quickly counted the present sell orders all the way up to 66000 sat, it is approximately $83,380. We will be trading at 0.24 cents by the morning Smiley....

Wrong again, just like in the article. Do you have any idea how much 0.24 cents is?

It's about 50 times less than what we're trading now.. But a bet is a bet Smiley

50 times less than the price of 1 BC?

Just a literal 1 cent x 0.24 = a quarter of a cent, we trade at 13 cents now so a quarter of a cent would be around 50 times less. Don't take it too seriously, I'm sure Iconic didn't mean it that way Smiley
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