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May 06, 2014, 02:27:23 AM
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Holy shit the centralization argument still? How do you centralize something you control a fraction of? Seriously how much could they possibly control within the group that is likely "the foundation" - 3% is my estimate, topping out at 5% - and anything suggested over 10% is patently absurd. I've been with this coin since minute fucking zero, every day. The people you accuse of "centralizing" don't have the marketshare to centralize the currency you halfwit.

It's a troll at this point. He's ignoring simple math.

+1 Hahaha - that was a good post. Wonderfully concise too. This womanish blather and self-righteous pomposity has grown to biblical proportions. So much so it has transcended itself, and gone from being massively irritating to hysterically funny.

While sex, race and the perpetual fight against our own mediocrity are powerful motivators, hardly any of those would justify -to ourselves, for no one else would be fooled by it- our mendacity.

Hysterical enough?
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May 06, 2014, 02:32:34 AM
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Holy shit the centralization argument still? How do you centralize something you control a fraction of? Seriously how much could they possibly control within the group that is likely "the foundation" - 3% is my estimate, topping out at 5% - and anything suggested over 10% is patently absurd. I've been with this coin since minute fucking zero, every day. The people you accuse of "centralizing" don't have the marketshare to centralize the currency you halfwit.

It's a troll at this point. He's ignoring simple math.

+1 Hahaha - that was a good post. Wonderfully concise too. This womanish blather and self-righteous pomposity has grown to biblical proportions. So much so it has transcended itself, and gone from being massively irritating to hysterically funny.

While sex, race and the perpetual fight against our own mediocrity are powerful motivators, hardly any of those would justify -to ourselves, for no one else would be fooled by it- our mendacity.

Hysterical enough?

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May 06, 2014, 02:37:58 AM
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Yeah well the great man that started it all ( btc) was certainly not some little gamer behind his pc smoking pot.
and He would certainly not have envisioned some spoiled brats to take over this whole thing..

While there is some debate still over who Satoshi was/is - or for that matter whether it was even truly a single person... I do completely agree with you (that he wasn't some little gamer behind his pc smoking pot) however, on the other hand if he truly envisioned the success and profusion that his idea would spark... then he certainly should have figured that it would be championed (to a reasonable extent at least) by them.

Steve Jobs = completely inexperienced 20-something entrepreneur smoked and did drugs much of his life... his company turned out to be pretty successful.

Richard Branson = high school dropout, current dope smoker, and pretty crazy too... his many companies turned out pretty well also.

id Software... everyone involved... ~60% of the people involved in arts and entertainment... etc.

I could go on but the point is - whether or not the image of those who were instrumental at the very beginning is polished or experienced, does not necessarily mean that the result of their efforts cannot be successful.  Additionally, just because the most visible people have decades of business experience doesn't mean it cant wind up being MCI-Worldcomm or Enron.

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Edit - Before someone points out the obvious (BC isn't a corporation)... people with significant business experience tend to be busy running... businesses and the exception are involved with non-profit humanitarian ventures... crypto currencies are neither of these things, though they share some aspects with both.  If for no other reason than that, certain compromises must be accepted with a coin as young and unexpectedly successful as BlackCoin has been so far.
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May 06, 2014, 02:45:15 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

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May 06, 2014, 02:49:08 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

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What's there to wonder about? BTC is at $425. As a result, everyone is being conservative.

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May 06, 2014, 02:50:55 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
--Eric Hoffer



Yeah, seems fishy, I've the whales on mintpal, and they really do manipulate prices it seems. IDK, but just really doesn't make much sense logicially, why value is so low, yet we are becoming one of the best alts out there with highest volume.

How is the volume so high and trading range pretty much hoovered in same place for so long?
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May 06, 2014, 02:54:13 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
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Yeah, seems fishy, I've the whales on mintpal, and they really do manipulate prices it seems. IDK, but just really doesn't make much sense logicially, why value is so low, yet we are becoming one of the best alts out there with highest volume.

How is the volume so high and trading range pretty much hoovered in same place for so long?

well there is some trend if you look at the past two weeks for it to hower between lets say 27K and 33K

if you have enough BTC and ride those waves there is enough money to be made, so probably they manipulate it the way to ride that wave as BC has the most volume they can do this
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May 06, 2014, 02:56:11 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
--Eric Hoffer

Actually, there are many reasons for that to occur - especially with the lack of volume on the exchange... not much for traders to work with so that money is largely sidelined.  On the other hand there are still probably millions of coins in hands that held from the very beginning and to them even 28K isn't really "low" but actually a fantastic ROI - regardless of how it compares to the manipulated top price.

I'm not selling now, but if I needed a new laptop or something, I'd be fine with taking a 'measly' 1000% gain on the earliest coins I purchased (or even more on the ones I mined).  Until there's more than a few dozen BTC on the buy side it's actually impressive that the price is being maintained... and that alone is testament to the fact that most people are indeed holding for the long run.

Can you imagine if someone wanted to cash in 500K BC right now?

EDIT: I should also point out that those selling are clearly BC holders with much more being held than being sold, because the sells are small and controlled in their nature... no price manipulation, just a free market working properly. Smiley
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May 06, 2014, 03:11:47 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
--Eric Hoffer



Yeah, seems fishy, I've the whales on mintpal, and they really do manipulate prices it seems. IDK, but just really doesn't make much sense logicially, why value is so low, yet we are becoming one of the best alts out there with highest volume.

How is the volume so high and trading range pretty much hoovered in same place for so long?

well there is some trend if you look at the past two weeks for it to hower between lets say 27K and 33K

if you have enough BTC and ride those waves there is enough money to be made, so probably they manipulate it the way to ride that wave as BC has the most volume they can do this

I not rule out price manipulation by some large holders, because it really impossible for all of our volume, the price never go up, is not only daytraders making the party here. I'm starting to believe in conspiracy theories.

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May 06, 2014, 03:11:55 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
--Eric Hoffer



Yeah, seems fishy, I've the whales on mintpal, and they really do manipulate prices it seems. IDK, but just really doesn't make much sense logicially, why value is so low, yet we are becoming one of the best alts out there with highest volume.

How is the volume so high and trading range pretty much hoovered in same place for so long?

well there is some trend if you look at the past two weeks for it to hower between lets say 27K and 33K

if you have enough BTC and ride those waves there is enough money to be made, so probably they manipulate it the way to ride that wave as BC has the most volume they can do this
It's pretty easy IMO...
As long as some players are making their exit (still hours of slow dumping every now and then) it is always easy to keep the price down since the dumpers have to do the hardest part of the job and get the price down by about 20-25% if they don't want to sell off only tiny bits per day.
Low price == you can move and accumulate more BC with less (if you look what is being used and working as wall these day almost ridiculous) amounts of BTC. I don't think whoever is doing this is looking to make more BTC but get more BC.

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May 06, 2014, 03:13:28 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
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What's there to wonder about? BTC is at $425. As a result, everyone is being conservative.
lol, that's exactly right, BC trains along with BTC, as do most all cryptos. BTC goes up then people get excited and loosen their belts a little and start trading again.... seen it a 1000 times Smiley

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May 06, 2014, 03:17:49 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
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What's there to wonder about? BTC is at $425. As a result, everyone is being conservative.
lol, that's exactly right, BC trains along with BTC, as do most all cryptos. BTC goes up then people get excited and loosen their belts a little and start trading again.... seen it a 1000 times Smiley

Yep... makes a big difference.  That's why it was almost a 'perfect storm' that BC started getting pumped right as BTC was recovering from it's last dip into the upper 300s (at least I think I'm remembering that timeline correctly).
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May 06, 2014, 03:19:07 AM
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I have been killing it mining shibecoin all day lol,,,,,, the competition is fierce out there.... its pow/pos in  5 days,,,hmmmm?  and I really like the neato wallet design too  Shocked

EDIT: of course I will devote some earnings back into purchasing BC as always Smiley

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May 06, 2014, 03:24:49 AM
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I have been killing it mining shibecoin all day lol,,,,,, the competition is fierce out there.... its pow/pos in  5 days,,,hmmmm?  and I really like the neato wallet design too  Shocked

EDIT: of course I will devote some earnings back into purchasing BC as always Smiley

With a 1.5M premine and 10% inflation baked in... yeah, I would definitely be funneling profits into BC with that. Wink
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May 06, 2014, 03:25:51 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
--Eric Hoffer



Yeah, seems fishy, I've the whales on mintpal, and they really do manipulate prices it seems. IDK, but just really doesn't make much sense logicially, why value is so low, yet we are becoming one of the best alts out there with highest volume.

How is the volume so high and trading range pretty much hoovered in same place for so long?

well there is some trend if you look at the past two weeks for it to hower between lets say 27K and 33K

if you have enough BTC and ride those waves there is enough money to be made, so probably they manipulate it the way to ride that wave as BC has the most volume they can do this
It's pretty easy IMO...
As long as some players are making their exit (still hours of slow dumping every now and then) it is always easy to keep the price down since the dumpers have to do the hardest part of the job and get the price down by about 20-25% if they don't want to sell off only tiny bits per day.
Low price == you can move and accumulate more BC with less (if you look what is being used and working as wall these day almost ridiculous) amounts of BTC. I don't think whoever is doing this is looking to make more BTC but get more BC.


But what if the goal isn't to sell off slowly, what if the goal is to just obtain large shares of BC?
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May 06, 2014, 03:34:18 AM
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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
--Eric Hoffer



Yeah, seems fishy, I've the whales on mintpal, and they really do manipulate prices it seems. IDK, but just really doesn't make much sense logicially, why value is so low, yet we are becoming one of the best alts out there with highest volume.

How is the volume so high and trading range pretty much hoovered in same place for so long?

well there is some trend if you look at the past two weeks for it to hower between lets say 27K and 33K

if you have enough BTC and ride those waves there is enough money to be made, so probably they manipulate it the way to ride that wave as BC has the most volume they can do this
It's pretty easy IMO...
As long as some players are making their exit (still hours of slow dumping every now and then) it is always easy to keep the price down since the dumpers have to do the hardest part of the job and get the price down by about 20-25% if they don't want to sell off only tiny bits per day.
Low price == you can move and accumulate more BC with less (if you look what is being used and working as wall these day almost ridiculous) amounts of BTC. I don't think whoever is doing this is looking to make more BTC but get more BC.


But what if the goal isn't to sell off slowly, what if the goal is to just obtain large shares of BC?
That's what i meant to say, my English is proably too bad..

The fact that there are still people dumping/cashing out does make it easier for those who want to accumulate a lot since the dumpers "help" holding the price down.
When you look at the amount and timespan where coins are being dumped at times that can hardly be part of the "usual" price manipulation. In that case the price would go up and down in shorter intervals and not drop for 12 hrs w/o any uptrend (for sell/dump and buy back) iin between.

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May 06, 2014, 03:41:35 AM
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I have been killing it mining shibecoin all day lol,,,,,, the competition is fierce out there.... its pow/pos in  5 days,,,hmmmm?  and I really like the neato wallet design too  Shocked

EDIT: of course I will devote some earnings back into purchasing BC as always Smiley

With a 1.5M premine and 10% inflation baked in... yeah, I would definitely be funneling profits into BC with that. Wink
lol, yep... I see you have looked at the coin Smiley I'm going to keep my eye on it

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May 06, 2014, 03:43:26 AM
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I have been killing it mining shibecoin all day lol,,,,,, the competition is fierce out there.... its pow/pos in  5 days,,,hmmmm?  and I really like the neato wallet design too  Shocked

EDIT: of course I will devote some earnings back into purchasing BC as always Smiley

With a 1.5M premine and 10% inflation baked in... yeah, I would definitely be funneling profits into BC with that. Wink
lol, yep... I see you have looked at the coin Smiley I'm going to keep my eye on it

wow look at the diff almost 500  755 now!

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That's what i meant to say, my English is proably too bad..

The fact that there are still people dumping/cashing out does make it easier for those who want to accumulate a lot since the dumpers "help" holding the price down.
When you look at the amount and timespan where coins are being dumped at times that can hardly be part of the "usual" price manipulation. In that case the price would go up and down in shorter intervals and not drop for 12 hrs w/o any uptrend (for sell/dump and buy back) iin between.

Exactly my point...
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