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[Jabulon]

Hey sorry if this is off-topic but, anybody want an umbrella?

Very nice, I want. How do I get one?

Here, sure thing. They were introduced as part of a promotion, but will surely continue to be available after that peters out. I'm ordering a large quantity. Here you can get all the deets: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=469640.msg6522278#msg6522278

FYI - update: I have spoken with the vendor who let me know that the silkscreen logo-print is not the only option. There is a superior heat-transfer option which would actually capture the gradient on the black face of the logo. Depending on costs, I may go with that one. I'm awaiting more info and samples. In any case they will be great, and the main point was to have some fun and get these bad-boys out in public lol.

[stryknyne666]

The Group Behind The Daily Dumping
veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique

What I am about to write will without a doubt cause a rift within our community , but I feel this is something I must do to protect the investment of innocent people who believe in BlackCoin. I ask everyone whether you support me or not, to  carefully read and analyze my words without prejudice.

When I first started to participate in this community I was enthusiastic to be part of a community that is inspiring and full with enthusiasm. If you look at my earlier posts from March and early April and compare them to my most recent posts you can clearly see a stark difference. Some people have been wondering if my "ego" has gotten out of control, or if something else is at play.

For a few weeks I have known about a coordinated effort to suppress the price of BC. I have hinted numerous times about this suppression, but I did not make it officially public because of the ramifications it would have on this community. I thought with the help of others I could stop or at the very least greatly diminish this suppression without letting the general public know, unfortunately we were unsuccessful.

veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique and a few others are all responsible for manipulating the price of BlackCoin for several weeks.

Their  group owns roughly 10% of the total supply of BlackCoins. Apparently this is not enough for them and they want more. They decided since they cannot mine BC anymore they would use their supply of coins to keep the price down and buy coins from people cashing out. With the volume we previously had and other factors, this would have been a very slow process. So they came up with the idea of the multi-pool. They would trick everyone into thinking the multi-pool would help stabilize the price of BC, but instead they were using the multi-pool to obtain significant amounts of BC while using their supply to keep the price down. They were able to "dump" their coins, and use the multi-pool to buy more without a loss. Why do you think so much focus is on the multi-pool? The multi-pool is the key to their plan working, and the plan worked flawlessly until I came into the picture.

I had no clue at the time any of this was occurring when I started promoting BC. If you look at my early posts before anyone really "knew" me, there were early attempts to stop me from promoting BC, why? Why would anyone want to stop  me from promoting BC? Because any extra buy pressure would interfere with what they are currently doing.

I quickly became a thorn in their side because any extra attention I brought to BC interfered with their sell walls and that was a problem for them. So at every step they have been there to stop me from promoting BC. I started getting suspicious after the second press release but I assumed it was just "jealousy". I didn't become aware of this plan until after I announced the BlackCoin card. I was contacted by someone in their inner circle who was "pissed" about some issue they had, so he "snitched". He gave me just enough information to start putting everything together. My attitude changed from that day because I realized we could have been trading well above the price at the time if it wasn't for them.

So I went on the offensive and started making announcements everyday to keep the buy pressure up. I formed my own group and combined we have over 6 million BC. I had to make sure there was a counter "force" to what they were doing. Our attempts to suck up their BC with minor pumps failed multiple times. So I backed the public pump which I felt would finally stop them. However, I did not anticipate the outrage from the community and I back away because I knew one day I might have to make this announcement and my credibility would need to remain intact.

Around that time I was contacted again by another smaller group that also figured out what was occurring. Their plan was to attack the multi-pool and slow them down. I did not condone this tactic because of the legal ramifications, so I declined to take part in it. However, I did use that opportunity to push news to attempt to break their walls, unfortunately I failed.

I finally realized the only way I could stop them if I organized an event so huge even their sell walls would not be able to hold up. At this time I already knew Seopkip was loosely involved but I had to give the impression I was not aware of anything, so I presented the idea to him knowing they would find some way to put it on hold. At first their was talks of funding it so I would not go to the community, but I knew that was BS. Their plan was to keep me waiting while they came up with a plan to take away from the Wall Street event. I knew my time was running out so I announced the Wall Street event before they could kill it.

What did they do? They sent Gritt to post that comment on the article to take away some steam. Then they started to slowly organize a campaign against me to finally kill my efforts. When the CoinDesk article went live on Friday they decided to announce the PR firm campaign. That night it wasn't the CoinDesk article that made the price go up, it was them. I knew they were letting the price go up to make it seem their PR firm announcement was causing "excitement". So I took credit for the price increase to take away some of the "effectiveness" of their plan. That really pissed them off because they wanted to convince the community the PR idea was having a positive effect.

The PR firm is complete bullsh!t. They created the PR firm stunt to take donations away from Wall Street. They knew the community would want to support both ideas and the funds will be split. They also knew I would ask questions, and that would be their signal to attack me. They made it seem I was "jealous" and wanted "attention". Their plan is to slow the news down, and they will tell everyone the PR firm is working on ideas and it will take time to see results. This is just a stall tactic while they continue to accumulate cheap BC.

They noticed I was still getting donations so Colinfx came up with his "match your donation" campaign to take away any remaining attention from Wall Street. Haven't you noticed how much they have posting and spamming lately? Notice how they want everyone to go to Reddit and BlackCoinTalk? If you look before Friday they rarely posted in this forum. It is their way to hijack the "message".

Now please ask yourself these questions:

Why didn't they support the Wall Street event and try to kill it?
Why didn't they spam the CoinDesk article and get the news out?
Why haven't they sent out any press releases since the last release the community sent?
Why has their focus always been on the multi-pool?
Why did they announce their PR firm project around the same time as the CoinDesk news?
Why is Colinfx so willing  to match donations?  
Why didn't they make a big deal out of being added to Vault Of Statoshi?
Just look at all their promotional efforts, it revolves around the multi-pool.

Now you can believe me or you can think this is some lame attempt at a coup to take over, but please start asking yourself who has been dumping steadily all these weeks and why?

I  felt this was my last option because after today they would be unstoppable. I was faced with a hard decision to make. If I did not say anything people will continue to be ripped off. If I do say something my revelation might cause investors to lose faith in the coin. So I did not make this decision without giving it a lot of thought and time.

This is not a signal to start dumping coins! Do not start dumping your coins!
rat4 and maarx are not directly involved in this plot. rat4 is only interested in making BC awesome, and maarx didn't fully understand what was going on behind the scenes.

Now that everyone knows what is going on behind the scenes we can be proactive at putting an end to this fraud, there is no reason to dump. We know exactly who is behind the sell pressure and there are ways to stop it. I have a group of members who are active in this community and they are ready to hit the ground running. I promise everyone that if you follow the plan I am about to layout we will finally skyrocketing by the end of Summer.

1. rat4 denounces the group and pledges to support the community in whatever decision is made.
2. Soepkip and Gritt resigns from the official dev team.
3. Members of this community stop mining on the multi-pool immediately.
4. veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique all agree to not dump further until 60 days from now. They provide us with their public addresses so we can monitor them.
5. The group refunds all the donations received for the PR firm bullsh!t
6. The community picks someone to be the spokesperson for the dev team. (It cannot be me because I hold too much BC). It has to be someone that does not have a substantial amount of BC, but have the experience to help rat4.

Let me make it clear there is no need to dump. There is demand for the coin and the fact they have been applying sell pressure proves it. If we put a stop to them we will be back on track to being the #1 coin. Throughout the day people will come forward to offer their services and help, we can build a stronger team. The fact I did not dump my coins should give you comfort that I still believe in BC. All we have to do is get rid of the rotten few that have been suppressing our growth and we will succeed.

IE you need to remove your my little pony panties and man up. God damn

[brammien]

I suggest an audit begin immediately.

Just seems more baseless accusations without any proof. Same thing barabbas has always been posting.

it is. walls of text without proof. More baseless claims, and bigger and badder stories weaved to do... what?

No idea, but the market doesn't seem to be buying whatever they are selling.

IE and his smurfs will fade away like a fart in the wind.

I am not going anywhere. If you think a few fake accounts and spam is going to make me go then you do not know me very well. The Wall Street event will happen even if I have to fund the rest myself. I knew what was going to come from exposing this and I did it anyway because it was the right thing to do. Sometimes doing the right thing is hard and has consequences. But guess what?...people are still buying cards and PMing tell me thank you for exposing this. You can try and hijack the forum with spam and other BS, but I know something very well, human nature. Yes there are people that are posting their "support" for the team, but they are starting to ask themselves questions.

But one thing seems to have slipped through the fud and your asinine comments.

Maarx verified the group manipulated the price to 80k+. You can call me a liar, say I am nuts, and anything else that makes you sleep well at night. But Maarx verified the largest pump of BC that hurt THOUSANDS of investors was orchestrated by the GROUP. Now tell me how the f..k is that okay? Tell me why should these people be trusted? You can post all the fud about me you want, but the group hurt a lot of innocent people just with that pump.

And then the same group wanted to enlist me because I am "popular" with the community, and asked me to LIE to the community they claim to support. So twice they admitted to have done something that would make any rational thinking person take pause, but you are trying to make me look like the fool? No sir you look like the fool because you are defending the very people that are f..k.ng you while you have your pom poms out cheering like a clueless bimbo at a prep rally...

So I am the one that is actually laughing because they made you their b.t.h

Reality Check

Your a fool

You wanted to organize a pump aswell. And now your saying pumps hurt a lot of innocent people. Your arguments are invalid. Your getting delusional. It's time for you to get some sleep.
It's easy to see you'r still behind your pc for ours replying even more nonsense out of frustration.

What is interesting is that you say they are responsible for the 90k pump/dump. However, you really think this fictional group of pumpers your talking about had the BTC's to pump the price to 90k? haha. Its simple math. You want street creds and your not getting them. And now your angry.

Go back and read his original post you fool, he explained why he did this public pump. Go back to the trollbox fanboy club on IRC. Say hi to Soepkip for me, he's been hiding there a lot avoiding the heat.

[hellohellooo]

IE you talk to much man. Prove what you have been accusing, answer those people man. You're making yourself look really bad and that's not helping & comforting the old & new investor.

Go on IconicExpert - PROVE IT! Just post SOMETHING, ANYTHING that makes it look like you didn't just dream all this whole thing up.

+1 Honestly by refusing to give any specifics, Iconic leaves neutral parties with a bad taste in their mouths. He says people can see for themselves, and what people are seeing is him ranting and sound completely delusional. He uses generalizations a lot..."everyone you talk to said they were holding", you've gotten "many pm's", there are "lots of fake accounts"...but no proof anywhere. Like it was mentioned, he is making bold accusations, but have to prove it to be true. Otherwise all he's doing is making himself look stupid and hurting the coin in the process too.

I mean say I wanted to falsely accuse IE of trying to bribe me or something. Wouldn't he (and the community) demand that *I* show him the proof? A screenshot of our chat, an email, whatever. And when I refuse, and instead ask HIM to prove that he didn't do it, wouldn't that just discredit me? This is what he's doing, and he just keeps going on and on about it. But still, all this time, he has produced nothing concrete.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...

It`s really not that extraordinary. I wouldn`t be surprised if it is true, there seem to be no honour in the crypto world.
Something is indeed holding the coin back. I have never seen a coin with such buzz and the trend on exchanges doesn`t follow as it should  

IE is doing great things with this coin but either way i think he made a mistake presenting this info. It`s not like the devs would come clean and the atmosphere here stinks right now. I do have to give IE som cred for debating in a civilized  manner and not acting like kids like many others.

Nothing is holding this coin back.. it is already overpriced. lol. people here are so delusional. There is no downward market manipulation.. the market is trying to do what it has wanted to do since the first big pump- return to a reasonable level. But instead of that being allowed to happen, there have been fake buy walls and "blackshields" put up to keep it around its current level, which is allowing early adopters who got in below 1k to slowly sell of their holdings for massive profits. The only manipulations that is going on is upward. Upward market manipulation is openly advertised on the blackcoin multipool website: http://www.blackcoinpool.com/faq "We leverage buy walls to prevent price manipulation of Blackcoin markets as much as possible." LOL that is price manipulation. People are so upset about hypothesized downward market manipulation but dont seem to give a damn that the current price is based upon openly admitted upward market manipulation. You are trying to fight an imaginary fire by starting a real fire...  GOOD LUCK! If anything, the "foundation" and the multipool are in the wrong for their upward market manipulation, not for supposed downward market manipulation. The way I picture it, they are holding the coin at a price where they can sell their massive amounts of insta-mined coins at for huge profits.

[coinpredator(return)]

BC struck 90K without any foundation, I can not understand why we need a foundation now.

By the way, anyone the foundation can tell when will be the next pump?


PUMP IT UP

[morituri13]

Hello BlackCoin Community
 
As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
 
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
 
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
 
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
 
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
 
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
 
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
 
The Plan
 
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
 
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q    
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV    
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR  
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1    
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
 
Be the change you want to see in the world.

Just to get us back on track a bit.. Please donate:)

[Ziploc]

So, who mined more than half a million coins, The Doge?. And where are those coins now? I can help with blockchain audits, if required.

Why did I not see TheDoge around before mid- march?

Your claims seem crazy, but go ahead, give us a small summary and some proof or starting point.

Just for a hell of it..

would you mind audit the top 20 wallets ?

we know the dates when the coin was in POW

thx in advance


BTW, I always backed-up Iconic because he always delivered

He's accusations are quite possible but so far in my eyes no real proof has been provided

It would be sad if they were true....BC have so much potential..



also if it's true...guys behind it....think what you can achieve if you devote your energy helping the coin and resist your short term greed..
Yes in the long term you will probably make less...
but you will probably made history and maybe be remembered as some of the pioneers of the digital era....

[Buto Losy]

Hey man, Please do not post any wallet address here, this thread is so long and i don't want to see it be deleted or locked.

[hellohellooo]

So, who mined more than half a million coins, The Doge?. And where are those coins now? I can help with blockchain audits, if required.

Why did I not see TheDoge around before mid- march?

Your claims seem crazy, but go ahead, give us a small summary and some proof or starting point.

Just for a hell of it..

would you mind audit the top 20 wallets ?

we know the dates when the coin was in POW

thx in advance


BTW, I always backed-up Iconic because he always delivered

He's accusations are quite possible but so far in my eyes no real proof has been provided

It would be sad if they were true....BC have so much potential..



also if it's true...guys behind it....think what you can achieve if you devote your energy helping the coin and resist your short term greed..
Yes in the long term you will probably make less...
but you will probably made history and maybe be remembered as some of the pioneers of the digital era....

No way! Pioneers!? For reapplying the processes of bitcoin and peercoin? Wow! Easier than I thought!

[digicidal]

Hey man, Please do not post any wallet address here, this thread is so long and i don't want to see it be deleted or locked.

LOL, the best part about all of this is that somehow some people with huge portfolios are 'manipulating the market' so that it stays almost completely stable (with less than 4% of the ATH volume) despite a bunch of insane babbling on all sides going on in this thread.  So closed or not - it's obvious that the BC market in general has pretty much written this thread off as the place where logic goes to die.

(OK, that's not "the best part" and actually the whole thing is really sad on both sides... but hey.. that's decentralization and an open forum!  You have to take the bad with the good - and I'm still a huge fan of this coin and the community, just not as much with this thread)  

[bitcoin carpenter]

Gonna drop another heads up for the kids trading out there...


All this cap is just market manipulation
True buy value right now is between 25 and 30k
True value 30k
sell point until something big happens is 38 to 40k
Speculation value for long term traders is 1 dollar thus year
20 dollars with mass acceptance
And 300 dollars for full blown crypto takeover

Don't listen to this rant.

[bobcaticus]

if bc wants to be taken seriously, this high school shit needs to stop

[bitcoin carpenter]

It's only a couple people

[Jesse Livermore]

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24wzjy/throw_a_spark_in_this_blackcoin_priceanyone/

That is all.

JL

[merkalor]

Stop the foundation spam i don't care

I want to see sexy girls in wall street with BC cards after that you will see the big pump coming

Whales cannot pump just for the fun they need food let give them fresh food

And more people will join us for sure, other communities will respect us more and more too with this kind of marketing

[digicidal]

if bc wants to be taken seriously, this high school shit needs to stop

By the time the infrastructure has actually formed around the coin, to support a broader adoption and more serious image requirements... it will have already long since stopped, or been made irrelevant (we're close to that I think already), or the coin will have already disappeared.

It's a toddler by even the lightning speeds of crypto... not even it's third month is behind it currently.

[Absynth]

Iconic has me on ignore but I want to know more about his knowledge of the people behind the DDoS attack. He stated that he was not in the wrong for knowing about the threat because he didnt know if they were legit. Once the attacks happened, he knew they indeed were legit and by not revealing the knowledge of said crime he made himself an acessory. DDoS attacks are a serious crime, punishable by up to 10 years in prison depending on where the person or group orchestrating the attack is located. Him knowing the group responsible makes him an accessory to this crime, and creates a whole separate crime by conspiring with this group. "In the US, denial-of-service attacks may be considered a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act with penalties that include years of imprisonment." from Wikipedia.
I am not a duplicate account, although I only made this account yesterday. I did so to question Iconic's integrity and was called out for being new. So he proved he has no integrity all on his own... quite a few times today, actually.

He claims he's on the up and up but this happened more than a week ago and he comes out with it today? Sorry Iconic but you knew of a plan to try and HURT BC and kept it to yourself. THAT IS INSIDER INFORMATION and something you are trying to discredit other people for. So don't make accusations that you yourself are not also guilty of

[Ziploc]

No way! Pioneers!? For reapplying the processes of bitcoin and peercoin? Wow! Easier than I thought!

yes pioneers....among the ones from BTC LTC and DOGE...

You think that crypto already reach it's universal acceptance ? lol

It will take years.....and what are years for human kind...


BC has a chance to change that.....or at least make the next leap...

we all know what are disadvantages of BTC.....no need to repeat..



and sorry If I offended your ego Mrs helloSatoshi...lol

[publicjud]

Iconic has me on ignore but I want to know more about his knowledge of the people behind the DDoS attack. He stated that he was not in the wrong for knowing about the threat because he didnt know if they were legit. Once the attacks happened, he knew they indeed were legit and by not revealing the knowledge of said crime he made himself an acessory. DDoS attacks are a serious crime, punishable by up to 10 years in prison depending on where the person or group orchestrating the attack is located. Him knowing the group responsible makes him an accessory to this crime, and creates a whole separate crime by conspiring with this group. "In the US, denial-of-service attacks may be considered a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act with penalties that include years of imprisonment." from Wikipedia.
I am not a duplicate account, although I only made this account yesterday. I did so to question Iconic's integrity and was called out for being new. So he proved he has no integrity all on his own... quite a few times today, actually.

What is your point?

[Absynth]

Iconic has me on ignore but I want to know more about his knowledge of the people behind the DDoS attack. He stated that he was not in the wrong for knowing about the threat because he didnt know if they were legit. Once the attacks happened, he knew they indeed were legit and by not revealing the knowledge of said crime he made himself an acessory. DDoS attacks are a serious crime, punishable by up to 10 years in prison depending on where the person or group orchestrating the attack is located. Him knowing the group responsible makes him an accessory to this crime, and creates a whole separate crime by conspiring with this group. "In the US, denial-of-service attacks may be considered a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act with penalties that include years of imprisonment." from Wikipedia.
I am not a duplicate account, although I only made this account yesterday. I did so to question Iconic's integrity and was called out for being new. So he proved he has no integrity all on his own... quite a few times today, actually.

What is your point?

i edited my post to include my main point. Iconic wants you all to think that he is on the level but he conspired, or knew of people actively conspiring to manipulate the price and said nothing. Then in his next breath he denounces the foundation for the same thing he is guilty of