★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS]

[TuxNut]

Me and Paul are considering starting our own zeitgeist movements. We are drunk. This happens a lot. Paul is a very aggressive self-opinionated humanitarian and I still shop at Tesco. Hopefully our planning will make headway soon.

You've gotta put me a room with this 'Paul' guy. See what kind of mess we could make of the world in a night

Ya need to get your arse on the Zeit Forum.. My old man's wanting to sort a 'more' active .. uh, what's the name for it ...... group, here in Dorset. Could use some additional ideas and people to bounce them off

[Dale Allen]

Me and Paul are considering starting our own zeitgeist movements. We are drunk. This happens a lot. Paul is a very aggressive self-opinionated humanitarian and I still shop at Tesco. Hopefully our planning will make headway soon.

You've gotta put me a room with this 'Paul' guy. See what kind of mess we could make of the world in a night

Ya need to get your arse on the Zeit Forum.. My old man's wanting to sort a 'more' active .. uh, what's the name for it ...... group, here in Dorset. Could use some additional ideas and people to bounce them off

Paul is a nut job and a great friend, and a nut job. "I'm not trying to be a Dick" that's what he just said to someone. He could definitely help any group become more 'Active'. He's having a chat with Webby about a westernised China and the rise of type one diabetes involved with the changes in diet. Hopefully someone will invent a way I can upload myself out of this particular conversation.

[TuxNut]

To add to the support that the wallet works...

Just received my first staked coins in my wallet (now in linux... phew, I compiled it right )..

okay, so not JUST, had 4 in the space of the last 3 hours, but only just noticed one
First three all confirmed the first attempt, looks like the 4th will be too (10 confirmations already).

The End

[Matni]

You've gotta put me a room with this 'Paul' guy. See what kind of mess we could make of the world in a night

You know if that ever happens you need to make sure you film it over wise you know you'll forget everything you think of!!

[fuzzi]

Nice TuxNut ... me too .. i just got my first 2 staked also oops 3 as i was writing this ... no shit ... nice

[LionOfNarnia]

[Gladimor]

Introducing the first merchant to accept ZeitCoin!

Imagine a merchant. A merchant that allowed you to buy anything you like, with amazing ease, unmatchable speed, and unparalleled service. This was once a thought in the minds of many, now put into reality. At Shop Crypto, we provide this otherworldly service; all payments will be accepted in cryptocurrency, and in the same time providing you with the finest of goods.



Discussion thread:

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=558750.msg6089180#new


Help fund the bounty:

Md2Jmk9fbKg846CFBEyMYhMvsPg3aP9YRe

The bounty will be used towards the creation of 3-D versions of ZeitCoin (purchasing Mastercam X7 CNC software and renting out professional CNC machining), as well as the upgrading of the store itself.

Come visit the store:

www.shop-crypto.webs.com

Thanks for reading.

Kindest regards,

Gladimor

CEO of Shop Crypto
The First Full-Market Merchant

[Raghiot]

minimum stackage?

[TuxNut]

Massive image

+1
Easy to forget sometimes. Just wish I had more confidence in many aspects of my life that didn't involve simply stating my opinion to those whose response could crush me

Nice TuxNut ... me too .. i just got my first 2 staked also oops 3 as i was writing this ... no shit ... nice

Feels damn good right

Why don't we do a poll on this have the community vote?

Instead of an argument I think tuxnut had the right idea let the community decide.

I think one of the mods on the official forum can create this and we can see what the community has to say

Done:

Straw poll about a ZEIT Multipool

Also posted on the 'official forum' here for arguments for/against.

Right, those who are NOT in favour of a Zeit multipool need to get voting.
If you do support the idea of a Zeit Multipool.... There's nothing to see here, move along!
No! I said move along, stop voting.
Dang it

[Matni]

Right, those who are NOT in favour of a Zeit multipool need to get voting.
If you do support the idea of a Zeit Multipool.... There's nothing to see here, move along!
No! I said move along, stop voting.
Dang it

It's funny Tux, I keep seeing reasons NOT to use a multipool, but no one has offered a real reason to actually use one.

Until I see a valid reason I just assume it's a combination of greed and laziness.

[Edit] For full disclosure, I voted NO on the straw poll

[ZEITCOIN]

Right, those who are NOT in favour of a Zeit multipool need to get voting.
If you do support the idea of a Zeit Multipool.... There's nothing to see here, move along!
No! I said move along, stop voting.
Dang it

It's funny Tux, I keep seeing reasons NOT to use a multipool, but no one has offered a real reason to actually use one.

Until I see a valid reason I just assume it's a combination of greed and laziness.

[Edit] For full disclosure, I voted NO on the straw poll

I do have to lay in a small factor that I think is necessary. We as a community all know that the crypto craziness going on right now is absurd and only the strong will survive. I am not saying that this is a reason to do the blackcoin pool structure I am just saying that we all need to realize that once this wild west has sherrifs the strongest coins and communities will only make it out alive.

Might be something to consider however I still feel it has applications to ensure that we keep our community strong and have this coin accepted everywhere we can.

Just a thought long term as I do see this industry being regulated and we need to be prepared for something like that.

Full disclosure I voted doesn't matter to me in the poll lol

[Matni]

Right, those who are NOT in favour of a Zeit multipool need to get voting.
If you do support the idea of a Zeit Multipool.... There's nothing to see here, move along!
No! I said move along, stop voting.
Dang it

It's funny Tux, I keep seeing reasons NOT to use a multipool, but no one has offered a real reason to actually use one.

Until I see a valid reason I just assume it's a combination of greed and laziness.

[Edit] For full disclosure, I voted NO on the straw poll

I do have to lay in a small factor that I think is necessary. We as a community all know that the crypto craziness going on right now is absurd and only the strong will survive. I am not saying that this is a reason to do the blackcoin pool structure I am just saying that we all need to realize that once this wild west has sherrifs the strongest coins and communities will only make it out alive.

Might be something to consider however I still feel it has applications to ensure that we keep our community strong and have this coin accepted everywhere we can.

Just a thought long term as I do see this industry being regulated and we need to be prepared for something like that.

Full disclosure I voted doesn't matter to me in the poll lol

I think we'll see self regulation before any imposed regulation which is probably the best way to start it.

I might be in the minority with regards my views on multipools like BC, but I think they are doing long term damage to smaller coins and I just can't agree with it. The way mulitpools appear, mine the shit out of your coin, then go dump it for whatever price they can get for it (thus lowering the value) then leave is like a bully or a tornado.

Am I mining other coins to sell for Zeit? Yes I am, but I'm just a lowly 2.8mh/s (9.1mh/s on X11) so I can't really do a lot of damage and I also don't mine for a short time before screwing you over, I like to pick a coin and mine for a week or so (Blitz > Hiro > Give)

I am however open minded about things, so if someone wants to explain the benefits as they see them, please have a go.

[karmazaki]

what should I do when I get this messege from Cryptorush?
"

Due to the issues with Zeitcoin as per our public statement, you can no longer withdraw ZeitCoins. Please refer to the Zeitcoin public statement which aims to help users who were affected to get back their coins by emailing zeitloss@zeit-coin.com or clicking here.
"


the link is broken and I sent an email, did it happen to other one before?
thx

[TuxNut]

Might be something to consider however I still feel it has applications to ensure that we keep our community strong and have this coin accepted everywhere we can.

Just a thought long term as I do see this industry being regulated and we need to be prepared for something like that.

See, for me, the first line will work against the second line.

Pretty much every coin is trying to be 'accepted everywhere', because "that's what currencies need", however, this isn't ABOUT being a typical currency, we're meant to be working to abolish money. If we're to stand out, we need to be US, not everyone else.

If we focus on just the organisations who are working towards the same goals as this 'movement', then they'll be more likely to pick up our coin, use and promote it and we'll then be able to better promote them and, in turn, those who believe in the same goals will start to acquire the coin as it'll have a use for what they believe in. Likewise, if we have the tx fees go to a pool to support sustainability projects, the USE of the coin will benefit the kinds of things such people believe in AND such projects benefit from the use by people who just treat it as anyother coin without even knowing they're helping to improve society.

Can stop anyone using the currency, greedy banks, greedy corporations and CEOs can all use it if they have the need/desire to do so, but we have the ability to not advertise the fact and thus avoid promoting them. If we just promote the GOOD charities, non-profit organisations, sustainability projects and the like, the bigger the currency becomes, the more attention these projects will get.

If we just try to be like every coin we'll fail miserably because the core members don't think like the capitalists and self interests, we'll be beaten at every turn, every decision will be compromised by our philosophies. The more we try to think like them, to compete on the same field, the more we'll lose our ideals, the more we'll attract 'that kind of person' into our ranks while driving out those who believe in the end objective and the coin will become a joke or so corrupt, it's got about as much "movement" about it as a million year old mountain.

I have been 'troubled' by what you've chosen to promote on Twitter and the OP several times, that you're caught up in the 'to the moon', get a big market cap to gain attention thinking that the right people will be attracted in.
We need to be trying to attract the right people FIRST and let the market cap take care of itself. There are millions of people in this world who roughly share our objectives, there's a HUGE market cap for charitable causes, there's no need to chase after EVERYTHING, there is a need to focused and ensure that at the heart of the coin, the ideals are the driving force FIRST AND FOREMOST!

I have far more to say on this matter, but it'll get REALLY long and I'll end up going off on multiple tangents as I often do (sorry about that). I think these things should be discussed much further on the Zeit forum where we can keep the discussion in one thread without the other distractions that occur here. Better still would be to have a select group of people with differing ideas about how to proceed be in either IRC or a Mumble convo. My vote goes to BeholdTheTrueWake for my side of the discussion, he's very much gained my respect and has more patience and self-control than I do.

[Matni]

If anyone would like to have a small chuckle at mine and some others expense... Check out the dump Blitz just went though...

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-BLTZ

[TuxNut]

I might be in the minority with regards my views on multipools like BC, but I think they are doing long term damage to smaller coins and I just can't agree with it. The way mulitpools appear, mine the shit out of your coin, then go dump it for whatever price they can get for it (thus lowering the value) then leave is like a bully or a tornado.

Am I mining other coins to sell for Zeit? Yes I am, but I'm just a lowly 2.8mh/s (9.1mh/s on X11) so I can't really do a lot of damage and I also don't mine for a short time before screwing you over, I like to pick a coin and mine for a week or so (Blitz > Hiro > Give)

I am however open minded about things, so if someone wants to explain the benefits as they see them, please have a go.

Just because I like being a broken record, makes me feel all classic and retro....

These are my sentiments and actions to a tee (but I have more hash power than you... ner ner na ner ner :p (even if you're significantly more efficient on X11 than I am))

what should I do when I get this messege from Cryptorush?
"

Due to the issues with Zeitcoin as per our public statement, you can no longer withdraw ZeitCoins. Please refer to the Zeitcoin public statement which aims to help users who were affected to get back their coins by emailing zeitloss@zeit-coin.com or clicking here.
"


the link is broken and I sent an email, did it happen to other one before?
thx

You're certainly not alone.

We tried raising funds as a community to help folks like yourself out, however there were just too many of you to help.
The last I read, CryptoRush were taken over by another guy and a new dev team were brought in, they'd stated that they'll pay everyone back who lost coins there. You'll just have to remain patient.
With regards to their statement, it turned out to be mostly lies, while they did have a wallet implementation that screwed up a lot of coin on their exchange, someone who's believed to have been a staff member there, leaked that they'd been selling their users coins on their exchange to try to gather enough BTC to hide the fact they were utterly insolvent. This is not the first exchange to do this and I doubt it'll be the last, so take it as a lesson to be wary of exchanges and not to leave coins on their (seriously dude, this all happened several weeks ago, you really don't wanna be leaving money on an exchange for so long, this is a new industry and there are many thieving/incompetent people about who're just looking to make themselves rich really quick at others expense).

MY OPINION... I may be proven incorrect:
Exchanges I currently trust enough to use / recommend are MintPal, Poloniex and Bittrex. Cryptsy should be okay for a while too.
Avoid CoinEx


EDIT:
I take it back, Bittrex was just mean to Matni, stay away from them too

If anyone would like to have a small chuckle at mine and some others expense... Check out the dump Blitz just went though...

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-BLTZ

/KIDDING!

[ZEITCOIN]

Might be something to consider however I still feel it has applications to ensure that we keep our community strong and have this coin accepted everywhere we can.

Just a thought long term as I do see this industry being regulated and we need to be prepared for something like that.

See, for me, the first line will work against the second line.

Pretty much every coin is trying to be 'accepted everywhere', because "that's what currencies need", however, this isn't ABOUT being a typical currency, we're meant to be working to abolish money. If we're to stand out, we need to be US, not everyone else.

If we focus on just the organisations who are working towards the same goals as this 'movement', then they'll be more likely to pick up our coin, use and promote it and we'll then be able to better promote them and, in turn, those who believe in the same goals will start to acquire the coin as it'll have a use for what they believe in. Likewise, if we have the tx fees go to a pool to support sustainability projects, the USE of the coin will benefit the kinds of things such people believe in AND such projects benefit from the use by people who just treat it as anyother coin without even knowing they're helping to improve society.

Can stop anyone using the currency, greedy banks, greedy corporations and CEOs can all use it if they have the need/desire to do so, but we have the ability to not advertise the fact and thus avoid promoting them. If we just promote the GOOD charities, non-profit organisations, sustainability projects and the like, the bigger the currency becomes, the more attention these projects will get.

If we just try to be like every coin we'll fail miserably because the core members don't think like the capitalists and self interests, we'll be beaten at every turn, every decision will be compromised by our philosophies. The more we try to think like them, to compete on the same field, the more we'll lose our ideals, the more we'll attract 'that kind of person' into our ranks while driving out those who believe in the end objective and the coin will become a joke or so corrupt, it's got about as much "movement" about it as a million year old mountain.

I have been 'troubled' by what you've chosen to promote on Twitter and the OP several times, that you're caught up in the 'to the moon', get a big market cap to gain attention thinking that the right people will be attracted in.
We need to be trying to attract the right people FIRST and let the market cap take care of itself. There are millions of people in this world who roughly share our objectives, there's a HUGE market cap for charitable causes, there's no need to chase after EVERYTHING, there is a need to focused and ensure that at the heart of the coin, the ideals are the driving force FIRST AND FOREMOST!

I have far more to say on this matter, but it'll get REALLY long and I'll end up going off on multiple tangents as I often do (sorry about that). I think these things should be discussed much further on the Zeit forum where we can keep the discussion in one thread without the other distractions that occur here. Better still would be to have a select group of people with differing ideas about how to proceed be in either IRC or a Mumble convo. My vote goes to BeholdTheTrueWake for my side of the discussion, he's very much gained my respect and has more patience and self-control than I do.

I agree with what you are saying but you must see this from an open minded perspective these are the cores belief system and I am one of them. However being a closed minded sect will result in the same halted future that TZM will have which is the fact that we are trying to abolish the need for a fiat currency and to keep this a decentralized currency not become a group that shuns people for having different ideals. We need to accept peoples views and have open discussions about educating people on what we believe in, not ostracizing them because they don't feel exactly as we do.

I was very taken back with the way the global communicators not only handled the ZEIT coin adaptation by lying saying we had no contact and then making a decision with a few individuals and not saying hey this is out there if you want to take part you are free to do so.

We cannot become a governing body that makes decisions for the masses as that is absolutely what I am against. This is about freedom to share your ideals and beliefs without being criticized, even if they don't meet up with ours.

I always share anything positive about the coin on twitter even if it is to the moon type comments because it is positive nothing more.

We need to accept this fact and work within those guidelines and if we are accepting of all and encourage an open platform to educate everyone we will have much more success i believe.

[Matni]

EDIT:
I take it back, Bittrex was just mean to Matni, stay away from them too

If anyone would like to have a small chuckle at mine and some others expense... Check out the dump Blitz just went though...

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-BLTZ

/KIDDING!

It wasn't Bittrex's fault, someone just dumped a whole shit load on there. Every buy order down to 12 satoshi was filled and this was a coin that was 24 hour stable around 330 satoshi... that was coin I wanted to sell for Zeit...

2.8 million coins (2.8% of ALL the coins) dumped in 15 minutes

[TuxNut]

EDIT:
I take it back, Bittrex was just mean to Matni, stay away from them too

If anyone would like to have a small chuckle at mine and some others expense... Check out the dump Blitz just went though...

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-BLTZ

/KIDDING!

It wasn't Bittrex's fault, someone just dumped a whole shit load on there. Every buy order down to 12 satoshi was filled and this was a coin that was 24 hour stable around 330 satoshi... that was coin I wanted to sell for Zeit...

2.8 million coins (2.8% of ALL the coins) dumped in 15 minutes

Hence the "/KIDDING"
I put it in caps to be sure it was seen.
My sarcasm really is lost on this internet, I'm going to have invent a new one that allows for the greatest whit (Sarcasm) to be better appreciated!

[Bluemustang]

Sticking to ideals about not using a multipool for zeit wont get us anywhere and is pointless if in doing so the coin dies.  We really need to get some movement.

We need a multipool if at least just for awhile to get us some momentum.