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September 17, 2025, 09:19:33 PM
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The Gambling Integrity Unit stated that the matches were 100% fixed.

Can you tell me who are these people? I Googled it and cannot find anything about it.

You make it sound super relevant, yet I have a weird feeling it consists of You, Yourself and Irene.

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The Gambling Integrity Unit stated that the matches were 100% fixed.

Can you tell me who are these people? I Googled it and cannot find anything about it.

You make it sound super relevant, yet I have a weird feeling it consists of You, Yourself and Irene.

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We were contacted by another party who was working for a Betting Integrity Unit and hopefully can help us find the best arbitrator with the necessary experience

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A football club in the fourth tier of Finnish football has become a tool of organised criminals involved in sports betting, according to Turun Sanomat.

TS interviewed Francesco Baranca, a sports integrity expert, who follows live betting markets during sports events to try and identify manipulation.

He says that one club's performances this season can only be explained by criminal involvement.

"The numbers are so absurd that there's no doubt about the manipulation," said Baranca. "The games are one hundred percent manipulated, you can't explain them any other way."

Baranca estimated that the criminals have earned more than a million euros in profits from the Finnish club's matches. He says some of the club's players and backroom figures have links to other teams in Kakkonen, the fourth tier of Finnish football, and Kolmonen, the level below that.

The clubs are geographically spread across different regions of Finland.

Baranca has investigated match-fixing for more than a decade. Until last spring he worked for the Ukrainian football federation heading up their ethics committee.

Finnish FA keeps watch on "certain clubs"
Marco Casagrande, Secretary General of the Finnish Football Association, told TS that the association has been following suspicious events in the club's matches.

"We know that there are grounds to follow certain clubs, and they have been tracked," Casagrande told TS.

TS reports that games involving the club in question are not offered for betting by the Finnish state owned gambling monopoly, Veikkaus.

However foreign bookmakers are able to offer odds on the games thanks to data scouts attending the matches and submitting realtime data for operators in Asia, for example.
https://yle.fi/a/74-20102346


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We have been in contact with the authorities about the case.

   Some first result of their work can be seen in this statement:

   https://www.palloliitto.fi/ajankohtaista/miesten-kakkosen-ja-kolmosen-ottelumanipulaatioepailyt-palloliiton-kurinpitoon

   We also have been asked not to release funds.

   Ukrainian counterparty is no longer filing any claims and stopped contacting us - confirming that they have either been arrested or accepted that the case is not winnable for them.


The evidence was posted. Every sports bettor could look at the betting history and see that it was fixed
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FIRST SUSPICIOUS MATCH: FC KIFFEN VS. FC FUTURA (MAY 12)

Details of the match:
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/12/finland/kakkonen/fc-kiffen-08/futura/4323169/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4rC7403Dc4

Six orders were placed on May 12, with a total net profit of 1,181.81 mBTC. Orders were -4.25 and -4.50 handicap orders on FC Kiffen against FC Futura in Finland – Kakkonen Group A.

All six orders were live orders placed between the 23th and 28th minute of the match (the current result being 1-0 for FC Kiffen), and they were all winning orders as FC Kiffen won the match 6-1.

Details of the match and highlights of the match confirm several suspicious situations:

16th minute – FC FUTURA player Bazhan getting a direct red card for unnecessary foul (1:35 in highlights)
25th minute – FC FUTURA player Moyseev getting a yellow card for unnecessary foul (2:05 in highlights)
29th minute – FC FUTURA player Sinitsyn scoring a rather clumsy own goal (2:25 in highlights)
Also, FC FUTURA goalkeeper Kazakov was not putting much effort in doing his job.

It is interesting to note that all four players noted in the suspicious activity were Ukrainian players.

SECOND SUSPICIOUS MATCH: ILVES KISSAT VS. TAMPERE UNITED (MAY 19)

Details of the match:
https://nr.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/19/finland/kakkonen/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/tampere-united/4323331/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qIT9T-FXk

Six orders were placed on May 19, with a total net profit of 1,132.33 mBTC. Orders were -3.75 and -4.0 handicap orders on Tampere United away at Ilves Kissat in Finland – Kakkonen Group B.

All six orders were live orders placed between the 14th and 19th minute of the match (current result being 1-0 for Tampere United), and they were all winning orders as Tampere United won the match 6-1.

With four Ukrainian players being included in the first suspicious match, it should be more than a coincidence that Ilves Kissat is the only team in the league that has Ukrainian players, and not only one but six.

One of those players was Kasperovych, which has done an awful job in the given match.

THIRD SUSPICIOUS MATCH: TPV TAMPERE VS. ILVES KISSAT (APRIL 24)

Details of the match:
https://nr.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/19/finland/kakkonen/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/tampere-united/4323331/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qIT9T-FXk&t

Two orders were placed on April 24, with a total net profit of 372.01 mBTC. Both were Over 3.5 orders. Both were placed between the 20th and 21st minute of the match (current result being 0-0), and both were winning orders as the match finished with a total of four goals (TPV Tampere won 3-1).

Details of the match and highlights of the match confirm several suspicious situations:

48th minute – ILVES KISSAT player Indutnyi conceding a penalty (2:30 in highlights)
57th minute – ILVES KISSAT player Patjas scoring an own goal (3:30 in highlights)
78th minute – ILVES KISSAT goalkeeper Kasperovych easily conceding a goal (4:10 in highlights)


OTHER SUSPICOUS MATCHES:

Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres (Brazil – Pernambucano U20, May 18):
https://ke.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/18/brazil/pernambucano-u20/centro-limoeirense-u20/atletico-torres-u20/4347487/

Nine orders were placed on May 18, with total net profit of 527.63 mBTC. They were handicap orders on Clube Atletico Torres. One was -4.25 order, two were -5.0 orders, three were -5.25 orders, three were -5.5 orders. All nine were winning orders as Clube Atletico Torres won 7-0.

Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro (Brazil – Paulista U20, May 17):
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/17/brazil/paulista-u20/botafogo-sp-u19/inter-de-bebedouro-u20/4343121/

Eight orders were placed on May 17, with a total net profit of 758.98 mBTC. They were handicap orders on Botafogo FC SP. Three were -2.5 orders, one was -2.75 order, four were -3.0 orders. All eight were winning orders as Botafogo FC SP won 10-1.

Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat (Finland – Kakkonen Group B, April 11):
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/04/11/finland/kakkonen/ilves-ii/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/4323304/

Two orders were placed on April 16, with a total net profit of 217.75 mBTC. They were Over 3.75 and Over 4.0 orders. Both were winning orders as the match finished with a total of five goals (Tampereen Ilves II won 5-0).

Finland’s Kakkonen league already has a history of match-fixing. Recently there were cases of match-fixing in Brazil as well. Several of them in the Paulista Football Federation, that the user was involved in as well.


BETTING HISTORY of the user:


Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.259   Ilves Kissat +4.0   98.99   05/19/2024 12:18   124.68   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.519   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:17   227.96   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.169   Ilves Kissat +3.75   149.99   05/19/2024 12:16   175.43   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.209   Ilves Kissat +3.75   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   181.37   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.639   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   245.90   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.769   Ilves Kissat +4.0   100.00   05/19/2024 12:13   176.99   05/19/2024 12:44
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.069   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.65   05/18/2024 13:25   53.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.653   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:25   32.67   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.892   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.00   05/18/2024 13:24   43.75   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.089   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.67   05/18/2024 13:24   54.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.909   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.99   05/18/2024 13:24   45.45   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.179   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   74.70   05/18/2024 13:23   88.10   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.019   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   50.96   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.787   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   39.37   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.618   Centro Limoeirense +4.25   74.22   05/18/2024 13:17   120.11   05/18/2024 13:50
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.990   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   70.00   05/17/2024 18:42   69.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.790   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   125.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.730   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   121.10   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.917   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   80.00   05/17/2024 18:40   73.36   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.490   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   104.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.180   Botafogo FC SP -2.75   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   82.60   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.070   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   74.00   05/17/2024 18:39   79.18   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.760   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   59.00   05/17/2024 18:38   103.84   05/17/2024 19:11
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.840   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   184.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.580   FC Kiffen -4.25   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   158.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.700   FC Kiffen -4.25   130.00   05/12/2024 13:25   221.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.790   FC Kiffen -4.25   139.00   05/12/2024 13:22   248.81   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   1.943   FC Kontu +0.75   31.00   05/09/2024 11:14   31.00   05/09/2024 12:28
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   2.640   FC Kontu +0.25   29.00   05/09/2024 11:13   29.00   05/09/2024 11:43
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   3.050   FC Kontu +0.0   29.11   05/09/2024 11:11   29.11   05/09/2024 11:43
Al Faisaly Harmah vs. Al Ahli Jeddah   1.840   Over 2.0   1.00   05/07/2024 13:10   0.84   05/07/2024 15:11
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.943   Over 3.5   197.00   04/24/2024 16:20   185.77   04/24/2024 17:21
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.970   Over 3.5   192.00   04/24/2024 16:19   186.24   04/24/2024 17:21
Ilves Kissat vs. SexyPoxyt   1.854   Ilves Kissat -1.5   0.99   04/20/2024 10:49   0.99   04/20/2024 12:05
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.952   EBK -2.0   5.00   04/16/2024 17:10   0.00   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.662   EBK -1.75   10.00   04/16/2024 17:09   3.31   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.632   EBK -1.75   20.00   04/16/2024 17:09   6.32   04/16/2024 18:21
FC Futura vs. MyPa   1.909   FC Futura +0.0   20.00   04/13/2024 14:31   0.00   04/13/2024 15:48
FC Futura vs. MyPa   2.470   Over 2.5   1.00   04/13/2024 13:43   1.00   04/13/2024 15:25
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.819   Over 4.0   44.00   04/11/2024 16:30   36.03   04/11/2024 17:21
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.826   Over 3.75   220.00   04/11/2024 16:21   181.72   04/11/2024 17:21
Cdp Junior FC vs. Millonarios FC   2.390   Over 2.25   99.00   03/23/2024 21:12   137.61   03/23/2024 22:21

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Interesting. That's a lot of evidence against op and I feel like your team did the right thing here since he clearly took advantage of fixed matches in a pretty transparent manner and expected to get away since your site is a betting exchange.

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I think to reach the body and legal things it will require a long time, if the OP and his team allows the abuser to continue with their abuse then they will just withdraw the funds and never coming back again.

It's will be better to freeze the accounts and then go for legal things.

It looks obvious that it's fixed and a team effort. So many coincidence, not real to happen.

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"The numbers are so absurd that there's no doubt about the manipulation," said Baranca. "The games are one hundred percent manipulated, you can't explain them any other way."

Baranca background from ChatGPT:

Secretary General of FederBet (an anti–match-fixing body based in Brussels).

Former head of the Ukrainian FA’s Ethics & Fair Play Committee, where he oversaw major match-fixing probes that led to 2018 police raids on 35 clubs.

Active integrity expert/commentator, frequently cited on betting-related manipulation (Finland lower-league cases; critiques of the “integrity industry”).
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September 18, 2025, 06:52:46 AM
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This is Francesco Baranca's LinkedIn profile for those interested in checking out who he is.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/francesco-baranca-26ab14129/
That's the integrity expert mentioned in the article Fairlay linked to last year.

I took a quick look at some of his recent posts and they are all about match fixing incidents in sports all over the world.
There is one interesting video showing a match from Finland. The keeper takes a goal kick and passes the ball to his defender. The player who receives the ball turns around and shoots it in his own net above the keeper. No one does or says anything.

If you do a google search on "Francesco Baranca Finland", you will find several of his posts where he talks about Finnish soccer. Among those is a case of Ukrainian and Brazilian players moving to Finland to play in low-division teams. I am only mentioning this because Fairlay was suspicious of a team consisting of Ukrainian players who performed badly in some matches.



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This is Francesco Baranca's LinkedIn profile for those interested in checking out who he is.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/francesco-baranca-26ab14129/
That's the integrity expert mentioned in the article Fairlay linked to last year.

I took a quick look at some of his recent posts and they are all about match fixing incidents in sports all over the world.
There is one interesting video showing a match from Finland. The keeper takes a goal kick and passes the ball to his defender. The player who receives the ball turns around and shoots it in his own net above the keeper. No one does or says anything.

If you do a google search on "Francesco Baranca Finland", you will find several of his posts where he talks about Finnish soccer. Among those is a case of Ukrainian and Brazilian players moving to Finland to play in low-division teams. I am only mentioning this because Fairlay was suspicious of a team consisting of Ukrainian players who performed badly in some matches.

Here are 4 of the Ukrainian players. I did a deep dive into the fixing to see if Fairlay was lying going as far as translating articles in Finnish. All you really have to do is look at the bet slips and match the times of the wagers with the questionable plays. It's really obvious just by looking at the bets but I still went a lot further because the subject was interesting.

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What about the other 4 fixed matches. Names, teams and how everyone is associated is now being posted on forums. Some books no longer take wagers on some of the teams. There were 5 fixed matches that the player bet. I'll go over the first one. There are 4 Ukranian players on Futura. All 4 were involved in questionable activity. Others were clean.

Kiffen vs. Futura
1. Sinitsyn kicked the ball in his own goal.
2. Bazhan received a red card. No other red cards for the team.
3. Moiseiev received a yellow card. No other yellow cards for the team.
4. Kasakovv goalkeeper gave up 6 goals.




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September 18, 2025, 07:42:48 AM
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There is one interesting video showing a match from Finland. The keeper takes a goal kick and passes the ball to his defender. The player who receives the ball turns around and shoots it in his own net above the keeper. No one does or says anything.
There is a clip in the Bundesliga where Mark Flekken went to drink water while the game was in play and his team conceded a goal. He claimed to have not heard the whistle for the restart of the game. Should bookies not settle bets on that game too, it could be interpreted as manipulation?

There are many such isolated incidents at the top level of the game, it is expected as you go lower to semi-pros, to amateurish football, there will be worse blunders in the game by virtue of their lack of quality and professionalism. I would not acknowledge highlights of the game as evidence of match fixing in this case along with drawing in ties of the players nationality. Fairlay will have to prove that there was an official ruling and a criminal ring was apprehended or something of the sort.

If bookies look hard enough, they can string together highlights of many amateur matches that could pass as fixing. Where do we draw the line with that?
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There is one interesting video showing a match from Finland. The keeper takes a goal kick and passes the ball to his defender. The player who receives the ball turns around and shoots it in his own net above the keeper. No one does or says anything.
There is a clip in the Bundesliga where Mark Flekken went to drink water while the game was in play and his team conceded a goal. He claimed to have not heard the whistle for the restart of the game. Should bookies not settle bets on that game too, it could be interpreted as manipulation?

There are many such isolated incidents at the top level of the game, it is expected as you go lower to semi-pros, to amateurish football, there will be worse blunders in the game by virtue of their lack of quality and professionalism. I would not acknowledge highlights of the game as evidence of match fixing in this case along with drawing in ties of the players nationality. Fairlay will have to prove that there was an official ruling and a criminal ring was apprehended or something of the sort.

If bookies look hard enough, they can string together highlights of many amateur matches that could pass as fixing. Where do we draw the line with that?
If you take the bet, for such a high amount, you settle the winnings, count your losses and change your approach.

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It's not the book doing the tracking. It's done by companies such as Sportradar. They then make the sportsbooks aware of fixed matches. As in this case, sportsbooks no longer take wagers from flagged teams. It was a criminal ring in the Fairlay case.

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Hey there Pmalek.
Can you add Betpanda casino in your list of Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts?
Minimum withdrawal amount is €10, but you can find some information you will need on one of their Betpanda help pages, but I suggest testing casino yourself:
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October 15, 2025, 06:38:10 AM
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Hey there Pmalek.
Can you add Betpanda casino in your list of Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts?
Betpanda has been on Bitcointalk since December 2024, but what's interesting is that you are the first person that has asked to have the casino added to the list. I wonder why no one else did until now. I think I will add it with the next update of the thread unless I see something there that I don't like.

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October 15, 2025, 10:24:59 PM
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Betpanda has been on Bitcointalk since December 2024, but what's interesting is that you are the first person that has asked to have the casino added to the list. I wonder why no one else did until now. I think I will add it with the next update of the thread unless I see something there that I don't like.
I was sure Betpanda was already included in your list and I wanted to check if information is correct or not, but I was wrong.
Make sure to read all about withdrawals because they have some special terms, all deposits must be wagered 5 times before funds can be withdrawn.

I think you should also include for all casino minimum amount of bitcoin that can be deposited.
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October 16, 2025, 12:51:12 AM
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Make sure to read all about withdrawals because they have some special terms, all deposits must be wagered 5 times before funds can be withdrawn.

Interesting. I don't know if I have seen any casino before that requires you to wager your deposit 5 times before the funds can be withdrawn. I believe the industry standard is a 1x wagering requirement, and most gamblers are comfortable with that. We know that if people take deposit bonuses and other types of bonuses, these bonus balances may have different wagering requirements. The wagering requirement ranges from 20x to 45 times the bonus amount. But I have never seen any casino with a 5x wagering requirement on the original deposit without taking any bonuses.

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I think you should also include for all casino minimum amount of bitcoin that can be deposited.
I agree. at the same time, I believe it will be a massive task for him to collect all the info again and update it.


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Make sure to read all about withdrawals because they have some special terms, all deposits must be wagered 5 times before funds can be withdrawn.
That's a lot. Are those 5x wagering requirements only for sports bets or do they also require them for their casino? Honestly, I would never recommend Betpanda to someone knowing what you just told me. It's too much. The worst I have seen is a 3x playthrough requirement for sports betting, but this is worse.

I think you should also include for all casino minimum amount of bitcoin that can be deposited.
This can be useful information.
True, but adding new columns would break the table layout and push one or more columns into a second row, depending on the device the reader uses. You can already see that in the Supported Altcoins column with casinos that support many altcoins.   



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October 16, 2025, 10:25:35 AM
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Make sure to read all about withdrawals because they have some special terms, all deposits must be wagered 5 times before funds can be withdrawn.
That's a lot. Are those 5x wagering requirements only for sports bets or do they also require them for their casino? Honestly, I would never recommend Betpanda to someone knowing what you just told me. It's too much. The worst I have seen is a 3x playthrough requirement for sports betting, but this is worse.

It has been changed and now it's 1x officially, in the ToS.

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October 16, 2025, 12:04:51 PM
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It has been changed and now it's 1x officially, in the ToS.
I just checked and your information is correct. The wagering requirement for all deposits is 1x, and they don't mention a different rollover requirement for sports betting.

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All deposits must be wagered one time (1x) before you can withdraw any deposited funds.
https://betpanda.io/en/info/terms

Another thing I noticed is the low deposit amounts on Betpanda. For example, if you deposit in USDT, you can send as low as 0.1 USDT. The same amount is accepted in TRX, which is close to $0.03.



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I just checked and your information is correct. The wagering requirement for all deposits is 1x, and they don't mention a different rollover requirement for sports betting.
Official Betpanda account confirmed new updated with wagering requirement is 1X, but before that I found this is information on Betpanda website, and that is dated from 07.22.2025.
I informed the team to make correction and update this pages to avoid more confusion in future.:
https://betpanda.kb.help/is-there-any-wagering-requirement-for-deposits/
https://betpanda.kb.help/what-is-minimum-deposit-and-withdrawal/

True, but adding new columns would break the table layout and push one or more columns into a second row, depending on the device the reader uses. You can already see that in the Supported Altcoins column with casinos that support many altcoins.  
Maybe you can include it somehow in Min. Withdrawal Amount column.
I think altcoin column should be with smaller font size.

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October 17, 2025, 06:35:14 AM
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Official Betpanda account confirmed new updated with wagering requirement is 1X, but before that I found this is information on Betpanda website, and that is dated from 07.22.2025.
I informed the team to make correction and update this pages to avoid more confusion in future.:
https://betpanda.kb.help/is-there-any-wagering-requirement-for-deposits/
https://betpanda.kb.help/what-is-minimum-deposit-and-withdrawal/
Those internal support and help pages can have outdated information just as we saw in this case here. Even customer support may not know everything all the time. What matters is what is shown to players on the withdrawal tab or cashier page, and also in the Terms & Conditions. However, a casino can also be late with updating the T&Cs.



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Those internal support and help pages can have outdated information just as we saw in this case here. Even customer support may not know everything all the time. What matters is what is shown to players on the withdrawal tab or cashier page, and also in the Terms & Conditions. However, a casino can also be late with updating the T&Cs.
Guys from Betpanda were quick enough to make correction on those pages, and they thanked me for reporting it.
Someone is going to fill the gap in forum after Sportsbet departure, and I think Betpanda can do it.
I would like to see them having free withdrawals in future, but that is not going to be easy.

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Last edit: November 27, 2025, 04:52:52 PM by notblox1
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Pmalek can you consider adding Thrill casino in your table?
I recently create account in that casino and I found information you are lookin for.
I cant confirm if this amounts are fixed or they change, but they have no restrictions on the maximum withdrawal amount.

Minimum Withdrawal for Bitcoin is 0.00002504 BTC
Withdrawal Fee for Bitcoin is 0.00001571 BTC
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November 27, 2025, 08:05:39 AM
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Pmalek can you consider adding Thrill casino is your table?
I recently create account in that casino and I found information you are lookin for.
I cant confirm if this amounts are fixed or they change, but they have no restrictions on the maximum withdrawal amount.

Minimum Withdrawal for Bitcoin is 0.00002504 BTC
Withdrawal Fee for Bitcoin is 0.00001571 BTC
Thanks for the suggestion, but I won't add them at this time. They created their announcement thread on Bitcointalk in September 2025. They are still relatively new here. I would rather wait a little.
It looks like they have dynamic withdrawal fees like many other crypto casinos.



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November 27, 2025, 11:21:56 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I won't add them at this time. They created their announcement thread on Bitcointalk in September 2025. They are still relatively new here. I would rather wait a little.
It looks like they have dynamic withdrawal fees like many other crypto casinos.

How about wild.io? Just noticed that their ANN thread was created back on 2023 although the activity in the ANN thread is so low compared to other casinos.
Their minimum withdrawal in BTC is 0.0002btc and withdrawal fee is 0.00001571btc, seems to be a dynamic fee but I'm not sure Smiley
One more casino to consider is Bethog, they have been here for about 8 months now, I have no information about the withdrawal fee but the minimum withdrawal is 0.0008btc

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