ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - discussion thread

[ralle14]

• MOUZ
• nouns
• Azure Ray
• Heroic

Who would've thought Azure Ray would be on that list, I guess it's the downside of being a replacement team since they don't have time to prepare for this tournament.

Well actually I did pretty bad on the final so I probably ended up making only a little after losing big time on the final. I made -2.5 and -1.5 on Vitality to win, yep I got greedy and I thought this would be an easy win given how dominant Team Vitality was.

Thinking this back I guess my decision was plain stupid there and instead of taking -1.5 on Vitality after taking -2.5, I should have gone with MOUZ +1.5 instead or probably just go with MOUZ to win as countermeasure on my first bet. So yeah small amount of profit overall from ESL Pro League so good enough for me

I also fell for that Vitality trap and threw most of my profit on them to win. I almost lost it all if I didn't watch the final, but I still think it's the better bet because no one expected Vitality to have that off day in the most important match of the tournament.

[passwordnow]

• MOUZ
• nouns
• Azure Ray
• Heroic

Who would've thought Azure Ray would be on that list, I guess it's the downside of being a replacement team since they don't have time to prepare for this tournament.

I wasn't expecting them to be out this early. The chinese still has XG who's already secured and G2.IG but they're in danger of getting out as well just like Azure Ray depending on the results of the remaining matches. Well, this isn't a problem to them as they can prepare longer for the upcoming Dreamleague Season 23. Still, XG and them will be playing there but no G2.IG. One slot per region only but two slots were given to the Western Europe region.

As I am talking about this which will happen next week, what I am excited about this is with team NaVi, it's been so long since we've seen them in action. No Dendi here but I am excited to see yuragi and sanctity play together against these teams. I just hope that sanctity is already with the team's bootcamp and won't be playing with over 100 ping in a legitimate and tier 1 tournament.

[boltz]

• MOUZ
• nouns
• Azure Ray
• Heroic

Who would've thought Azure Ray would be on that list, I guess it's the downside of being a replacement team since they don't have time to prepare for this tournament.

Well actually I did pretty bad on the final so I probably ended up making only a little after losing big time on the final. I made -2.5 and -1.5 on Vitality to win, yep I got greedy and I thought this would be an easy win given how dominant Team Vitality was.

Thinking this back I guess my decision was plain stupid there and instead of taking -1.5 on Vitality after taking -2.5, I should have gone with MOUZ +1.5 instead or probably just go with MOUZ to win as countermeasure on my first bet. So yeah small amount of profit overall from ESL Pro League so good enough for me

I also fell for that Vitality trap and threw most of my profit on them to win. I almost lost it all if I didn't watch the final, but I still think it's the better bet because no one expected Vitality to have that off day in the most important match of the tournament.

Well as far as I know Azure Ray had a break of almost 1 month without having any scrims or games and their gameplay was low so honestly I was not surprised to see them eliminated but don't worry , they have massive talent and a lot of time to prepare the next tournament.

I'm personally happy for G2.IG and I hope this team will achieve at least semi-finals because if you look across G2 in all esports , they are doing awful in all of them.

Also , some eyes on Boom as well because even if they lost today against GG , this team and especially Pakasz are in their best shape of the year so far. 

[arallmuus]

Also , some eyes on Boom as well because even if they lost today against GG , this team and especially Pakasz are in their best shape of the year so far. 

Well Im not trying to be discriminate or whatsoever but I probably wont bet on SA dota2 teams though. Their performances are inconsistent most of the times and yeah I'd bet my shot on another team or probably just skip the match. Anyway on the next game between SR and Boom which is literally NA vs SA, this pretty much screams NA dominance for me though so Im betting my shot on SR obviously

[passwordnow]

Well as far as I know Azure Ray had a break of almost 1 month without having any scrims or games and their gameplay was low so honestly I was not surprised to see them eliminated but don't worry , they have massive talent and a lot of time to prepare the next tournament.

I didn't know about that. But they deserve that break. Every team and player needs to give themselves a break and in fairness with Azure Ray, they've been competing here and there and they're always part of the major tournaments this year. If they ran out of luck for this tournament or they've been performing bad this time, they might do good for the upcoming one.

Also , some eyes on Boom as well because even if they lost today against GG , this team and especially Pakasz are in their best shape of the year so far.  

To be honest, Pakasz is actually good and he's like the prime K1.
As for the round 5, we still have 6 teams to compete on the last day later and then only 3 will be able to qualify. So good luck to all of these 6 teams;

• BetBoom Team
• BOOM Esports
• G2 x iG
• Shopify Rebellion
• Team Liquid
• Team Secret

[ralle14]

Well Im not trying to be discriminate or whatsoever but I probably wont bet on SA dota2 teams though. Their performances are inconsistent most of the times and yeah I'd bet my shot on another team or probably just skip the match. Anyway on the next game between SR and Boom which is literally NA vs SA, this pretty much screams NA dominance for me though so Im betting my shot on SR obviously

I won't bet on that SR vs. BOOM series, but I agree with the SA teams being on and off with their performance. Good luck with your SR bet, I also think they should advance if they can get their key heroes like the Tusk, Hoodwink, and Leshrac.

As for the round 5, we still have 6 teams to compete on the last day later and then only 3 will be able to qualify. So good luck to all of these 6 teams;

BetBoom, Shopify, and Team Liquid should be the last three teams to advance unless they start to tilt and pull some questionable plays again like yesterday.

[passwordnow]

As for the round 5, we still have 6 teams to compete on the last day later and then only 3 will be able to qualify. So good luck to all of these 6 teams;

BetBoom, Shopify, and Team Liquid should be the last three teams to advance unless they start to tilt and pull some questionable plays again like yesterday.

Only Team Liquid proceeds from the last three that you've mentioned. Sadly, Shopify Rebellion and BetBoom Team were already eliminated and won't be able to participate anymore. What impressive is, Boom esports. They're surprising everyone about how good they are. Anyway, sometimes it is SA that's not too strong at all but this time, they're showing that they can compete with other tier 1 teams as well. So, the playoffs is already there and matches are made too. All teams start at the upper bracket quarter finals and whoever losses will still be able to survive through going in the lower bracket. 4 matches tomorrow as we've got 8 teams left and that tomorrow won't take that long to start less than 11 hours.

[Lanatsa]

As for the round 5, we still have 6 teams to compete on the last day later and then only 3 will be able to qualify. So good luck to all of these 6 teams;

BetBoom, Shopify, and Team Liquid should be the last three teams to advance unless they start to tilt and pull some questionable plays again like yesterday.

Only Team Liquid proceeds from the last three that you've mentioned. Sadly, Shopify Rebellion and BetBoom Team were already eliminated and won't be able to participate anymore. What impressive is, Boom esports. They're surprising everyone about how good they are. Anyway, sometimes it is SA that's not too strong at all but this time, they're showing that they can compete with other tier 1 teams as well. So, the playoffs is already there and matches are made too. All teams start at the upper bracket quarter finals and whoever losses will still be able to survive through going in the lower bracket. 4 matches tomorrow as we've got 8 teams left and that tomorrow won't take that long to start less than 11 hours.

Even with those stand-in chinese teams who had been eliminated too early on which i could say that it is really that too unusual considering Chinese dota is really that something that could be on tier 1
specially on AR but well they are now that elimated same goes with Secret and SR and Betboom. As i have expected with TS and Liquid which we know that these are tier 1 teams.
Upperbracket quarterfinals would really be that on next 10 hours. Team falcons vs Boom esports? I would say that this isnt an easy match up for Boom.

[passwordnow]

Only Team Liquid proceeds from the last three that you've mentioned. Sadly, Shopify Rebellion and BetBoom Team were already eliminated and won't be able to participate anymore. What impressive is, Boom esports. They're surprising everyone about how good they are. Anyway, sometimes it is SA that's not too strong at all but this time, they're showing that they can compete with other tier 1 teams as well. So, the playoffs is already there and matches are made too. All teams start at the upper bracket quarter finals and whoever losses will still be able to survive through going in the lower bracket. 4 matches tomorrow as we've got 8 teams left and that tomorrow won't take that long to start less than 11 hours.

Even with those stand-in chinese teams who had been eliminated too early on which i could say that it is really that too unusual considering Chinese dota is really that something that could be on tier 1
specially on AR but well they are now that elimated same goes with Secret and SR and Betboom. As i have expected with TS and Liquid which we know that these are tier 1 teams.

Speaking of Team Spirit, this is probably the first or second time around that they've stayed long on a tournament after TI. Am I recalling it right? Because usually, they're always out too early and they focuses on a better tournament that has a bigger prize pool but this time, they're not. Or is it that they're just better as usual because of the teams that are beating them in the past tournaments are also strong. And with the other teams, speaking of stand ins, Tundra Esports is going to take ramzes as their stand in for the upcoming Dream League season 23. It's been so long since we've watched ramzes into this type of tournament and I am happy to see him back and there's a likely that Tundra will kick Tobi after that tournament and will absorb him.

[arallmuus]

Well Im not trying to be discriminate or whatsoever but I probably wont bet on SA dota2 teams though. Their performances are inconsistent most of the times and yeah I'd bet my shot on another team or probably just skip the match. Anyway on the next game between SR and Boom which is literally NA vs SA, this pretty much screams NA dominance for me though so Im betting my shot on SR obviously

I won't bet on that SR vs. BOOM series, but I agree with the SA teams being on and off with their performance. Good luck with your SR bet, I also think they should advance if they can get their key heroes like the Tusk, Hoodwink, and Leshrac.

They were so bad LOL

Im not sure what the heck happened there but they lost after winning the 1st map, kinda weird. Betboom lost as well, G2.IG is a pretty decent team as well but yeah its just questionable at this point and only Team Liquid ended up as my expectation by winning 2-0.

Anyway Im assuming that some team played not as good as they usually are because they are saving strats for DreamLeague season 23 though. There are alot at stake on this DreamLeague especially the EPT points. Alot of the leftover teams would be willing to get their hands on the EPT points to be invited on the next Riyadh Master

[boyptc]

Anyway Im assuming that some team played not as good as they usually are because they are saving strats for DreamLeague season 23 though. There are alot at stake on this DreamLeague especially the EPT points. Alot of the leftover teams would be willing to get their hands on the EPT points to be invited on the next Riyadh Master

I agree.

On this Wallachia tournament, there is no EPT points to be distributed. But with the DL23, there's going to be a lot of it and aside from the $1M prize pool.

So, that makes sense for the other teams to get out of it quickly and prepare themselves for that next week and all of the strategies can be saved or they're just literally weak on PGL's Wallachia.

[ralle14]

Im not sure what the heck happened there but they lost after winning the 1st map, kinda weird.

They might've lost that series to a bug as Arteezy mentioned that his BKB didn't trigger properly in game three.

https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/1790716429638959553

Anyway Im assuming that some team played not as good as they usually are because they are saving strats for DreamLeague season 23 though. There are alot at stake on this DreamLeague especially the EPT points. Alot of the leftover teams would be willing to get their hands on the EPT points to be invited on the next Riyadh Master

You have a point there since it's the last tournament of the EPT Season 2, and we also have the regional qualifiers for the Riyadh Masters after DreamLeague.

We have the playoffs later, and I guess all favorites should win this time after that underdog day yesterday.

[sunsilk]

We have the playoffs later, and I guess all favorites should win this time after that underdog day yesterday.

Two Chinese teams facing each other now, Xtreme Gaming and G2.IG. I don't understand if there's something to do with the points and standing on the group stages for the placing of teams on the playoffs.

As they are currently playing for their first map, it looks like Xtreme Gaming is doing it with a carry bristleback of Ame. 24 minutes in the game and all 2nd towers of G2.IG were already destroyed.

This is now on the mid game and if this happens to become a late game, G2.IG has got luna and magnus and that's going to play a big part every time they clash. One wrong move, and it's gg.

But it seems that top barracks of G2.IG is already destroyed.

Update: The game ended 27 minutes, XG won.

[rdbase]

• MOUZ
• nouns
• Azure Ray
• Heroic

Who would've thought Azure Ray would be on that list, I guess it's the downside of being a replacement team since they don't have time to prepare for this tournament.

I wasn't expecting them to be out this early. The chinese still has XG who's already secured and G2.IG but they're in danger of getting out as well just like Azure Ray depending on the results of the remaining matches. Well, this isn't a problem to them as they can prepare longer for the upcoming Dreamleague Season 23. Still, XG and them will be playing there but no G2.IG. One slot per region only but two slots were given to the Western Europe region.

As I am talking about this which will happen next week, what I am excited about this is with team NaVi, it's been so long since we've seen them in action. No Dendi here but I am excited to see yuragi and sanctity play together against these teams. I just hope that sanctity is already with the team's bootcamp and won't be playing with over 100 ping in a legitimate and tier 1 tournament.

You were correct with your outlook of XG and G2.IG according to sunsilk and his post with the results this morning!
So good call passwordnow!

In CS2 news roster change:

source: https://www.hltv.org/news/38987/fnatic-sign-blamef

[boltz]

It feels so damn good to see GG being eliminated right ? ( at least in lower bracket for now ).  Liquid is on a winning streak against them after 2023 they were dominated by GG for entire year but I'm glad they managed to turn the tides in their favors + 33 who is indeed a Dota 2 nerd guy and we can see his influence more and more in this tournament.

Now all is left is to see Falcons losing as I'm really tired to watch them winning without having a great performance during the game because all they do is to play together on the map and always have good vision + other teams they need to stop giving them favorite heroes and start to push them outside of the comfort zone because without beefy heroes , Falcons will lose for sure.

[passwordnow]

So good call passwordnow!

That was an intense game from Xtreme Gaming and G2xIG. The 2nd map, I thought that it's going to be G2.IG as they're obviously on the lead but it's so hard to push to the barracks. And the MVP for the 2nd map is XinQ. That marci of his which was a position 4 support became the actual damager to everyone in IG. And just to give some updates, the match for the playoffs Day 1 is done and we've got the teams already moving to the next bracket and as well as those that have been sent to the lower bracket.

For the upper bracket;

• Xtreme Gaming versus Team Spirit
• Team Falcons versus Team Liquid

For the lower bracket;

• G2xIG versus Aurora
• Boom Esports versus Gaimin Gladiators

[ralle14]

Two Chinese teams facing each other now, Xtreme Gaming and G2.IG. I don't understand if there's something to do with the points and standing on the group stages for the placing of teams on the playoffs.

Unfortunately, no points are given out for this tournament, but the prize pool is still big enough for teams to take it seriously. XG right now is on another level IMO, they've been rolling with off-meta heroes and it's working while the others are strictly picking the most contested heroes.

Now all is left is to see Falcons losing as I'm really tired to watch them winning without having a great performance during the game because all they do is to play together on the map and always have good vision + other teams they need to stop giving them favorite heroes and start to push them outside of the comfort zone because without beefy heroes , Falcons will lose for sure.

We might have to wait until the upper bracket final before that happens since XG is looking like the strongest team so far in this tournament.

[sunsilk]

Two Chinese teams facing each other now, Xtreme Gaming and G2.IG. I don't understand if there's something to do with the points and standing on the group stages for the placing of teams on the playoffs.

Unfortunately, no points are given out for this tournament, but the prize pool is still big enough for teams to take it seriously. XG right now is on another level IMO, they've been rolling with off-meta heroes and it's working while the others are strictly picking the most contested heroes.

Yeah, the prize pool is the same as the typical tier 1 tournament but no EPT points are to be given away. That's why those teams that are out too early that are also going to participate in the Dream League have enough time to prepare and study their potential tough teams to match with.

What I am learning with XG's strategy is about patience and pull off every single opportunity that they can see even if the enemy is on the lead.

XinQ never disappoints and I'm waiting to see how they'd play against Team Spirit, the two time TI champs.

[passwordnow]

For the lower bracket;

• G2xIG versus Aurora

The first game series is done in the lower bracket and we already have the first team that shall go home and that's Aurora Esports. They have ended on this tournament as 7th-8th placer with a prize of $40k. Still not bad and they're also a participant to the upcoming DreamLeague. With this, they've got few more days to prepare to that tournament.

The upcoming match is this one;

• Boom Esports versus Gaimin Gladiators

I guess that everyone is counting on for Gaimin Gladiators to win this series and go through the lower bracket until they reach the grand finals. But don't be too easy on Boom Esports, they've shown great on the group stages and they've improved to be honest. Seems like a dark horse but I just want to watch a good dota with this match though.

[boltz]

For the lower bracket;

• G2xIG versus Aurora

The first game series is done in the lower bracket and we already have the first team that shall go home and that's Aurora Esports. They have ended on this tournament as 7th-8th placer with a prize of $40k. Still not bad and they're also a participant to the upcoming DreamLeague. With this, they've got few more days to prepare to that tournament.

The upcoming match is this one;

• Boom Esports versus Gaimin Gladiators

I guess that everyone is counting on for Gaimin Gladiators to win this series and go through the lower bracket until they reach the grand finals. But don't be too easy on Boom Esports, they've shown great on the group stages and they've improved to be honest. Seems like a dark horse but I just want to watch a good dota with this match though.

Boom is about to take 1st map from GG and if this happens , I think Boom will secure the series with a 2-0 victory because GG is playing very poorly from dire side and that will be the case for them in 2nd map.

Also , what happened in 2nd map between Aurora and G2IG ? I heard there was a big crash of the serve and they had to remake the entire map with all the players being on the same positioned but I'm glad PGL solved this and they were able to resume the game without any difference for both teams.  [/list]