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Author Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽  (Read 150502 times)
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March 20, 2025, 04:08:54 PM
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We can't really say anything shocking would happen though? Can we? Look at the league situation, plus Liverpool is out of everything else, so they only have the league games which means they are going to rest, Arsenal still has some games left outside of the league.

There is no way that a very well rested Liverpool would lose that many points whereas Arsenal would end up with all wins, so we can easily say that Liverpool will win the league. Sure it looks like we are not going to see that becoming a mathematical reality for a while longer, we need it to become mathematically possible first. However, just because math doesn't say it is done, doesn't make it any more competitive, we could see how the league is already done.

If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table. It's strange to see that Liverpool who has done so good in EPL was not able to perform well in other competitions.

It  was not that Liverpool was not able to do well in other competition just that, they were just unfortunate to win the EFL Cup and beat PSG to qualify for semi finals that is football, Liverpool top the champions league table till they were knock out and they still played well to have reach the EFL Cup finals but the fact they didn't win doesn't mean they didn't do well, this is by the way already let see how next season will like for them. And for Arsenal they are sure of next season champions league again and if they can beat Real Madrid then they will go far.

 
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March 20, 2025, 04:30:32 PM
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Give Amorin plenty of opportunities I think he can fix the squad, but if judged now it might be too early because the coach also needs a long adaptation.
Including I once said Amorin was bad because he did not bring his team in the premier league much better but at least there is hope in the European league tournament where he can continue to fight.
Maybe next season it can be fixed from the whole.

The owners ( @INEOS ) has also said they'll most likely see him as the head manager for a long period of time. That's some good news to read and hear but they are pretty good at talking than doing,  let's see what happens finally. I want to see them help him get the players that can suit his style of play and also fight for the Manchester United badge. Manchester United fans can be toxic same time without patience. I will not raise or high my hope next season,  it'll take some 2-3 years.

Amorim looked bad because their position in the standings was not good but I don't think he fully takes responsibility for that because he came at the wrong time, and he came with a completely different strategy, while the boss could not provide good financial support. So instead of getting a tough squad that can carry out his new strategy, Amorim can only use their existing resources due to limited funds. So if anyone should be held responsible for the slump then it should be the Glazers and Jim Ratcliffe.

Maybe the story would be different if Amorim really got big and full financial support, and the results would also be different if Sheikh Jassim could actually acquire Man United.
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March 20, 2025, 04:48:30 PM
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If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table.
Liverpool chances of winning the EPL this season are very big, they need 16 more points to secure the title, in my opinion, it is not difficult for Liverpool to end Man City dominance because their performance is still very consistent.
Arsenal must focus on finishing as runners-up because it is almost impossible to catch Liverpool, while third and fourth positions are still uncertain because the points difference collected by Nottingham, Chelsea and Man City is very small.

It's strange to see that Liverpool who has done so good in EPL was not able to perform well in other competitions.
This is football, there are always surprises in it. Liverpool must learn more so that the same mistakes are not repeated.
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March 20, 2025, 05:02:23 PM
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The owners ( @INEOS ) has also said they'll most likely see him as the head manager for a long period of time. That's some good news to read and hear but they are pretty good at talking than doing,  let's see what happens finally. I want to see them help him get the players that can suit his style of play and also fight for the Manchester United badge. Manchester United fans can be toxic same time without patience. I will not raise or high my hope next season,  it'll take some 2-3 years.
It most likely Amorim will stay as per Sir Jim's statement. The problem is his club is almost running out of cash. They have to balanced it again as almost all of their cash drained by Glazer family.

Amorim obviously has to sell a lot of players in summer in order to rebuild the squad. I don't think he can do that without selling players first.

Amorim has to find demand for his players who listed on the list of players to be sold.

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March 20, 2025, 05:19:00 PM
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After having an incredible season for more than 10 years by winning various prestigious trophies, I think we should not criticize Guardiola for their poor performance this season. Currently The Citizens are in 5th place in the standings and if they do not get a better ranking it will be their worst finish in the last 10 years. However, there will be a time when they are past their prime. At this time I think City really need regeneration in their squad. I think Guardiola's tactics are still quite effective in modern football but Guardiola needs new players with creativity and skills that suit modern football.


You actually made a good point because pep have been the one building that club for a very long time now and the man actually deserves so merit but you know fans because am also guilty of this sometimes but I won't even lie pep have been a great manager and for no reason those he deserve all this comments the man have already been going through a lot at least instead of criticism we should appreciate him he has done a very beauty job, and even when they fell below they still bounced back and you won't even be able to predict them but I see something positive coming from us next Season and some injuries contributed to what we are currently facing and we actually need to learn. That sometimes we should show appreciation than condemnation.

Pep.is actually a great person and I will for ever appreciate him he has done more than we actually expect and when the transfer window is open let's see if he Will actually make any move to get a new play and even haaland have gone cold this season but all in a matter of time we are going to for sure do better, there was too much dissappoint but we expect a better return next season. This is why you just have to keep calm and put more trust in pep.











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March 20, 2025, 05:53:51 PM
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But, if we compare Amorim with another coach who successfully managed the team in half a season, Amorim looks like he failed to manage MU based what on he did before. If we talk about players who can't compact on his strategy, Amorim should quickly adaption to the current squad. he was expected by many people to lift MU position from the bottom rank, but he can't do that so far so make many people are disappointed in his performance, and perhaps recruit a new coach to replace him. If he can't recruit a new player to fill up the gap position, I think he will not be long, and will be replaced soon by a coach who is targeted such as Xavi Hernandez.



Did anyone expect results from Amorim already this season? The management snatched him in the middle of the season, but not for emergency work, but for work with a long-term perspective. He wanted to join United in the summer but was given a 'now or never' offer and it was clear he had some counter-conditions. I am sure that he has at least one whole season (next) to show what he can do, plus if he cannot conduct a normal transfer campaign due to lack of funding, then I don’t even know if it will be possible to make any claims against him.

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March 20, 2025, 06:03:09 PM
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It  was not that Liverpool was not able to do well in other competition just that, they were just unfortunate to win the EFL Cup and beat PSG to qualify for semi finals that is football, Liverpool top the champions league table till they were knock out and they still played well to have reach the EFL Cup finals but the fact they didn't win doesn't mean they didn't do well, this is by the way already let see how next season will like for them. And for Arsenal they are sure of next season champions league again and if they can beat Real Madrid then they will go far.
It's not unfortunate that they didn't do well or were eliminated in the champions league, they lost fair and square to a superior opponent this season. It wasn't like they played against a smaller team and were luckily eliminated. PSG was their worthy opponent and they PSG proved it by playing Liverpool like one kindergarten school children in the first but were unlucky to bury that tie in the first leg at Paris. I can agree with you that they were unfortunate not to win the EFL cup.
I still don't agree that Arsenal would far I'm the UCL, let's say they managed to escape Real Madrid, their more likely to meet PSG.

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March 20, 2025, 06:03:41 PM
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If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table.
Liverpool chances of winning the EPL this season are very big, they need 16 more points to secure the title, in my opinion, it is not difficult for Liverpool to end Man City dominance because their performance is still very consistent.
Arsenal must focus on finishing as runners-up because it is almost impossible to catch Liverpool, while third and fourth positions are still uncertain because the points difference collected by Nottingham, Chelsea and Man City is very small.
Currently, I believe that Liverpool has ended City dominance with their current points because they are not going to give up now since they are not Arsenal. Liverpool will focus more and give more time and attention to the rest of their matches to make sure that they're consistent, because they don't have any competition to divide their attention.

Nottingham has the better chance to finish on third position than Chelsea and City. It looks as if Chelsea and City might lose the 4th position if they continue to play inconsistently.

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March 20, 2025, 06:07:22 PM
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You are free to call Liverpool champions but it has not been official or certain yet because they are still 9 matches to play and anything can be possible. I doubt if there's any team that can try to challenge Liverpool again in the premier league because it almost over, the moment Arsenal loses 2-3 or draw and Liverpool wins then it will be official and Liverpool will be handed over the premier league trophy but for the main time it is not yet over untill it is over. And yes it has been a great season for Liverpool even though they fucked up in the EFL cup.

It is only mathematically not official. But when we look at it from a reasonable aspect, there is no title competition anymore. Liverpool will probably make it official when there are a few weeks left for the end.  Wink

Indeed! There is no team to stand and fight back against Liverpool. For example Arsenal, what will even they do right? Arteta is really unhappy with the recent point losses. But his hands are tied on one hand. The team have been struggling with injuries for quite a while. Saka's absence affected them deeply. They got more inconsistent. They could have still done something more if they had a reliable CF at least. But guess what? There is no such player.  Tongue  This summer, Arteta's first target must be to sign a star striker no matter what.

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March 20, 2025, 06:21:53 PM
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You are free to call Liverpool champions but it has not been official or certain yet because they are still 9 matches to play and anything can be possible. I doubt if there's any team that can try to challenge Liverpool again in the premier league because it almost over, the moment Arsenal loses 2-3 or draw and Liverpool wins then it will be official and Liverpool will be handed over the premier league trophy but for the main time it is not yet over untill it is over. And yes it has been a great season for Liverpool even though they fucked up in the EFL cup.

It is only mathematically not official. But when we look at it from a reasonable aspect, there is no title competition anymore. Liverpool will probably make it official when there are a few weeks left for the end.  Wink

Indeed! There is no team to stand and fight back against Liverpool. For example Arsenal, what will even they do right? Arteta is really unhappy with the recent point losses. But his hands are tied on one hand. The team have been struggling with injuries for quite a while. Saka's absence affected them deeply. They got more inconsistent. They could have still done something more if they had a reliable CF at least. But guess what? There is no such player.  Tongue  This summer, Arteta's first target must be to sign a star striker no matter what.

I think I see some points in what you're trying to say, they've not been officially crowned Champions of this season but majority of all fingers are pointing at them to win it, Manchester City doesn't stand a chance they're almost very far from it, Arsenal on the other hand is not very serious to win the title so the competition is not very tough anymore moreover most of their players would get enough time to rest from the pressure of the Premier league, they'll come back fresh and fit after the break.

 Also, Liverpool are out of other competitions, this is their only opportunity of winning a silverware this season they won't let it slide past them, they're not some club that bottles the league, they've gone this far and chances of them winning it is getting much higher by every fixture. Anyways, if Arteta is serious about winning the league next season, he'll focus on signing a top quality attacker and an upcoming youngster as backup striker.

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March 20, 2025, 06:25:04 PM
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But, if we compare Amorim with another coach who successfully managed the team in half a season, Amorim looks like he failed to manage MU based what on he did before. If we talk about players who can't compact on his strategy, Amorim should quickly adaption to the current squad. he was expected by many people to lift MU position from the bottom rank, but he can't do that so far so make many people are disappointed in his performance, and perhaps recruit a new coach to replace him. If he can't recruit a new player to fill up the gap position, I think he will not be long, and will be replaced soon by a coach who is targeted such as Xavi Hernandez.



Did anyone expect results from Amorim already this season? The management snatched him in the middle of the season, but not for emergency work, but for work with a long-term perspective. He wanted to join United in the summer but was given a 'now or never' offer and it was clear he had some counter-conditions. I am sure that he has at least one whole season (next) to show what he can do, plus if he cannot conduct a normal transfer campaign due to lack of funding, then I don’t even know if it will be possible to make any claims against him.

Amorim was brought in for longterm and he will have 2-3 seasons at least. He got the position in the worst possible time and with this kind of players he is doing the maximum. If he is able to win the europa league this season will be a good season for them. This is the only thing that can save their season so far. Even if he dosent win it i dont think he will be sacked.

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March 20, 2025, 06:47:38 PM
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Hmmm the worst thing Manchester United would do is bring in another coach in place of Amorim during the summer, it happened to Chelsea, we kept changing coaches instead of sticking to one good coach and back him up with money, I'm not saying Maresca is not good, he's trying but left for me Pochettino was beginning to get better and would done better this season, I believe he built a structure already and was ready to enhance it with better players before getting fired.

 Amorim is a good coach, we can see his pattern of football when this current players are in form and stick to his instructions , which means that if the board, I mean Ineos try to support him with enough money to sign good player that would suit this structure, he'll do better than this next season, bringing in a new coach would disorganise the team once again, except they're willing to flush out many players and sign in fresh one's for the new coach, but since they're broke I think that's impossible.

I wonder how long this will last...? As a fan, I am fed up with the steps Man United take to improve their team. They keep changing managers as if that is the main problem and then when they do change managers, they will talk about how United will return to their glory days and there will be a tsunami of trophies. What a joke!!!

Maybe Amorin was possessed by the red devil at that time, as a manager even though he had a pretty good record with Sporting CP, but for some reason he chose to take over Man United with the excuse of improving his coaching career but instead of getting a career boost, what happened was a career decline.

So what really happened to Manchester United, because both the manager and the star players when they joined Man United, seemed to lose their abilities, they really performed badly but after leaving Old Trafford their careers improved again.

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March 20, 2025, 06:59:35 PM
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Amorim was brought in for longterm and he will have 2-3 seasons at least. He got the position in the worst possible time and with this kind of players he is doing the maximum. If he is able to win the europa league this season will be a good season for them. This is the only thing that can save their season so far. Even if he dosent win it i dont think he will be sacked.
Well, if given a long time, of course Amorim will succeed in bringing change to the Manchester United squad. So far, Amorim's performance has certainly not been good, but we must also look at the depth of the squad because the existing squad cannot perform well so that management needs to make changes to the squad in the upcoming transfer window.

The position in the standings does not reflect good performance because until week 29, Manchester United is still stuck in 13th place. There is no target that they will pursue in the Premier League because they don't have much time left. But Amorim's focus is of course on the European League so they have to play well to be able to reach the final.
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We can't really say anything shocking would happen though? Can we? Look at the league situation, plus Liverpool is out of everything else, so they only have the league games which means they are going to rest, Arsenal still has some games left outside of the league.

There is no way that a very well rested Liverpool would lose that many points whereas Arsenal would end up with all wins, so we can easily say that Liverpool will win the league. Sure it looks like we are not going to see that becoming a mathematical reality for a while longer, we need it to become mathematically possible first. However, just because math doesn't say it is done, doesn't make it any more competitive, we could see how the league is already done.

If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table. It's strange to see that Liverpool who has done so good in EPL was not able to perform well in other competitions.
Indeed it's a big shame to Liverpool the season, after all their efforts in the beginning of season they couldn't make it in the champions league round 8, even though the Carabao Cup that they are supposed to win easily they still couldn't make. However, I think their only hope lies in the premier league right now so is quite sating that this season title would surely be in their favor because Arsenal doesn't have what is takes to compete with them.

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Well, if given a long time, of course Amorim will succeed in bringing change to the Manchester United squad. So far, Amorim's performance has certainly not been good, but we must also look at the depth of the squad because the existing squad cannot perform well so that management needs to make changes to the squad in the upcoming transfer window.
Manchester United fans are disappointed in Amorim performance currently, but I expected what’s happening currently to happen, Manchester United fan’s expectations were just too high when Amorim was about to join Manchester United, they were thing immediately Amorim joined the club, then everything is going to change, but they don’t know that things doesn’t work like that, Manchester United problem wasn’t from the coach alone before Amorim joined, the players are the main problem which Manchester United are having, and it’s going to take time before Amorim correct that, you don’t just expect Amorim to sign all the players which he wants at once.

Am sure Amorim will be able to improve Manchester United’s performance, but it’s going to be with time, we don’t expect that to happen within a short period of time, it’s definitely going to take time.

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March 20, 2025, 07:57:24 PM
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Give Amorin plenty of opportunities I think he can fix the squad, but if judged now it might be too early because the coach also needs a long adaptation.
Ruben Amorim have actually made some progress in Manchester United and I feel he has what it takes to fix the team and make them as strong as they use to be. If he is given more time and freedom to bring more players of his choice into the club, I'm sure he will be able to replicate what he did at Sporting in Manchester United.

Including I once said Amorin was bad because he did not bring his team in the premier league much better but at least there is hope in the European league tournament where he can continue to fight.
Maybe next season it can be fixed from the whole.
I will not conclude that Manchester United have become the dream team we all hope for neither will I assume that Amorim have gotten the right team for Manchester United. I still think he is work in progress although there is serious improvements in the team even though the results is not too big to match that statement. From the way Manchester plays, we can see that for sure.











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March 20, 2025, 07:59:36 PM
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Indeed it's a big shame to Liverpool the season, after all their efforts in the beginning of season they couldn't make it in the champions league round 8, even though the Carabao Cup that they are supposed to win easily they still couldn't make. However, I think their only hope lies in the premier league right now so is quite sating that this season title would surely be in their favor because Arsenal doesn't have what is takes to compete with them.
Liverpool players loss their spirit when they were eliminated from the Champions League because in the qualifying round they performed quite well where they won 7 matches with only one defeat. But in the last 16 they had to admit that PSG was the strongest team that buried their hopes in the Champions League. In the Carabao Cup, Liverpool's performance was not very good, they even lost their sharpness as they had in previous matches so that Newcastle United managed to beat them.

Losing two hopes, even one of which was one step away from winning the trophy, was certainly a big disappointment that Liverpool players had to accept. For now they have to focus on the domestic league, even their current advantage does not guarantee that they will be safe because there are still many matches left. So it's better to focus than to experience the same disappointment at the end of the season.

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March 20, 2025, 08:08:52 PM
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If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table. It's strange to see that Liverpool who has done so good in EPL was not able to perform well in other competitions.
Of course, Arsenal can only hope and try to continue to perform well and secure their position in the Champions League zone. They can no longer hope to win the title, unless Liverpool really experiences a very significant decline in performance. I don't think Liverpool will experience that, they will definitely fight hard to win the Premier League title this season.

There is nothing to distract Liverpool anymore, I mean they just need to keep their focus on one competition which is the Premier League. They have been eliminated from all other competitions and now Liverpool will only secure the Premier League. Arsenal of course still have other competitions they need to fight for, but their chances of continuing to the semifinals are probably very low considering their opponent is Real Madrid.

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I definitely did not expected Newcastle to manage to beat Liverpool here. I expected Liverpool to be far greater and have an easy win, turns out I was wrong and they lost it. Newcastle isn't a great team and they do not look that much better neither, no idea how they managed to get that kind of win. If we can see Liverpool keep failing like this in the upcoming games, then maybe even premier league title would be at risk, so they need to recalibre whatever is wrong with them and manage to get easier wins instead.

Newcastle as a team not doing as well as expected since the takeover, but at the very least they managed to get a cup, which is important, Spurs still do not have one lol. I remember Newcastle from like 5-6 years ago, like with Saint Maximin being great times and all that, and after the takeover, people expected a lot more from them. This could be a start, maybe?

Liverpool played quite well against Newcastle; it's only that they weren't fortunate enough to win the title. And Newcastle didn't waste their chances on the pitch. Even I didn't believe Newcastle would have the potential to defeat Liverpool in the final, and I was quite startled by the game. Liverpool did everything they could to win the trophy, but they didn't have the luck in the game. And PSG has eliminated them from the Champions League this season, and I don't see Liverpool winning any titles this season other than the Premier League. M. Salah is no longer in contention for the Ballon d'Or, and I think he won't win. since he lost the UCL this season. They will concentrate solely on the Premier League. I believe he will be pleased if Newcastle wins trophies this season, and they will do everything they can to achieve that. What an excellent performance by Newcastle's coach. Isak is a key player, and I am confident that big clubs will begin to show interest in signing him.

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Liverpool winning the title is almost guaranteed, people who still have hopes for Arsenal should not have any hopes, they are not going to win and we are not going to see them get any good results. The fact that Arsenal will lose points and we all know they will, makes Liverpool even easier title winner because they won't be getting a good result neither but at least Arsenal won't neither.

The gap between them is too huge for Arsenal to close, it would require Arsenal to lose very few points or even none when Liverpool is losing, and we all know that won't happen. I agree with mathematical discussion, PSG is not mathematically champions neither, but we do not doubt them, same goes for Liverpool at premier league too.

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