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March 22, 2025, 07:28:11 PM
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Amorim has been United's worst coach in the history. Even Moyes has recorded better stats than him in only 5 games, while he did it on 14 games. As you can see how bad Amorim's quality is. That's why i think Manchester United has not yet comeback. Everytime they win against a small team, people called they're so back. What a fucking joke is it?  Cheesy Cheesy :
Amorim performance has been so poor since he joined Manchester United, after Amorim joined United, everyone was expecting chances in Manchester United’s performance, but as we can see their performance got worst even after Amorim joined the club, but from the way Manchester United are playing, then it’s obvious that the current Manchester United problem is not only the coach, players are suppose to be blamed also.

Am not really blaming Amorim yet, because Manchester United were already in mess when Amorim joined, and it’s going to take time before he will be able to fix Manchester United, but let’s see how he will perform by next season, at least their should be improvement in Manchester United.

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March 22, 2025, 07:52:56 PM
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Amorim should have understood where he was going, Manchester United was in a bad state even before he was appointed head coach, and after that he sold several more attacking players and what did he expect, that just because he became a coach, the team should win, no, that's not how it works. Apparently, Amorim is not as good a coach as expected, and most likely they will give him more time, Manchester United management has such an approach, they gave time to every coach they had, but as history has shown, it did not help any of them.
I think Amorim deserves more time and it's too early to judge because Erik Ten Hag really destroyed Manchester United.

Unfortunately the trophies he won made people ignore the fact that he is not a hood coach,  check I European and Epl stat, they are poor. The quality of players he got and the kind of impact he had on them, Christiano Ronaldo was right about the team mentality thanks to him. He was mod and didn't want to become better rather just settled for less.

Amorim got a huge job and I know he would have expected the task to be tough but not this tough which is the issue, let's see if he can turn things around with time.

 
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March 22, 2025, 08:01:42 PM
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Amorim has been United's worst coach in the history. Even Moyes has recorded better stats than him in only 5 games, while he did it on 14 games. As you can see how bad Amorim's quality is. That's why i think Manchester United has not yet comeback. Everytime they win against a small team, people called they're so back. What a fucking joke is it?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

As per Manchester United's owner, Sir Jim, he doesn't wanna sack Amoruim, but let him stay much longer. He has hinted Amorim's future on his interview.

As for Tottenham, it seems fucking Levy is reluctant to pay the compensation once he sacks Ange. That's why he keeps him much longer.  Cheesy Cheesy

No FA Cup, No EFL Cup and a 13th place in the PL. So yes, this is really the worst year recently for Manchester United.  Tongue  Amorim is feeling all the pressure over himself. Now there is only the Europa League left in hand. Do you think they will get to the trophy there? The last time they did it was 2016 with Mourinho. In the same year they finished the PL in 6th place. It looks like Amorim doesn't have much of a choice now. If no trophy there too then his future will be at a bigger risk.

Tottenham and them are both teams we should be seeing in much better places in the league certainly. Really stressful days are waiting for Ange and Amorim... Both aim the Europa League trophy now.

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March 22, 2025, 08:29:05 PM
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Amorim has been United's worst coach in the history. Even Moyes has recorded better stats than him in only 5 games, while he did it on 14 games. As you can see how bad Amorim's quality is. That's why i think Manchester United has not yet comeback. Everytime they win against a small team, people called they're so back. What a fucking joke is it?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

As per Manchester United's owner, Sir Jim, he doesn't wanna sack Amoruim, but let him stay much longer. He has hinted Amorim's future on his interview.

As for Tottenham, it seems fucking Levy is reluctant to pay the compensation once he sacks Ange. That's why he keeps him much longer.  Cheesy Cheesy
Amorim should have understood where he was going, Manchester United was in a bad state even before he was appointed head coach, and after that he sold several more attacking players and what did he expect, that just because he became a coach, the team should win, no, that's not how it works. Apparently, Amorim is not as good a coach as expected, and most likely they will give him more time, Manchester United management has such an approach, they gave time to every coach they had, but as history has shown, it did not help any of them.

Coaching Man United is not easy, just look at how many coaches have been fired by Man United. Because coaching Man United has pressure because this is a big club, big history, the biggest fans in the world. Consciously or unconsciously, the scary job is to be the coach of Man United for now, because failing to coach Man United, a career as a coach will also fade. Amorim took this step of course there has been quite mature consideration, and to judge Amorim's performance is still too early in my opinion. So it is not wrong if the club management gives him a season.

In essence, the key to success in coaching Man United like the Sir Alex era is because he also acts like a club owner. This is as conveyed by Rio Ferdinand on his Youtube channel, he said when he was still a player, if Man United players were on holiday from training, Sir Alex was still present in the work room to control and supervise other departments. Players who performed poorly in the first half were not invited to compromise and were immediately punished in the locker room in the middle of the match, if they were still stubborn they would definitely be sold. Maybe Amorim needs a firm stance to fix the club and of course give him the freedom to buy players. Because believe me, firing the coach is not the solution, management should understand this.

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March 22, 2025, 08:35:49 PM
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Arteta has good management skills and he has repeatedly failed to identify quality transfers. With both his central forwards Gabriel Jesus and Kai Havertz out on long term injuries, along with Raheem sterling also injured, it's clear that he lacks proper squad planning. His inability to build squad depth has left the team vulnerable in key positions. This is why Arsenal have been unable to win the Premier League in the last six years.
I am an Arsenal fan but I've never taken time to really sit down and study the Arsenal coach to identify his flaws and all that, but then, going by what you both have said here, a man can not be good and still have this flaws and still maintain his status as being a good coach, results is what really proves a coach is good and not just words of the mouth.

To me personally, I have not yet seen the desired result to believe Arteta is really a good coach, till date, Arsenal has remained one of the most inconsistent club in the Premier league, they know how to get to the top at the very beginning of a season, and just when it become very important for them to remain and maintain that top position, they begin to fail in consistency, very annoying to say the least.
Everyone is going to have own vies and analysis of players and coaches even I am also feeling same about Mikel Arteta he is having best sources with good quality players as well but still fail to give his best which is wired even now he is facing serious injuries which are another problem for Arsenal.

Arteta already take good time, but his success ratio is not as he needed to be but good thing he is still doing hard job and have enough space as now they are working on few changes as well which are important for their success in future but Mikel Arteta needed to be had good rotation policy as well which keep his players on good level with workload is also having huge negativity on them in last few years.
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March 22, 2025, 09:09:37 PM
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I think Amorim deserves more time and it's too early to judge because Erik Ten Hag really destroyed Manchester United.

Unfortunately the trophies he won made people ignore the fact that he is not a hood coach,  check I European and Epl stat, they are poor. The quality of players he got and the kind of impact he had on them, Christiano Ronaldo was right about the team mentality thanks to him. He was mod and didn't want to become better rather just settled for less.

Amorim got a huge job and I know he would have expected the task to be tough but not this tough which is the issue, let's see if he can turn things around with time.
Yeah, Eric Ten Hang really didn't handle the situation of Manchester United players properly especially that of Ronaldo. It was as if he came to the club to be a disciplinarian instead of being a coach that he was appointed for. I believe he did what he did to Ronaldo to instill fear on the other player, they would be like, 'if he can do this to a whole Ronaldo, then who are we'. With the money he spent, he was supposed to have performed better than what he did.

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March 22, 2025, 09:16:35 PM
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Amorim has been United's worst coach in the history. Even Moyes has recorded better stats than him in only 5 games, while he did it on 14 games. As you can see how bad Amorim's quality is. That's why i think Manchester United has not yet comeback. Everytime they win against a small team, people called they're so back. What a fucking joke is it?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

As per Manchester United's owner, Sir Jim, he doesn't wanna sack Amoruim, but let him stay much longer. He has hinted Amorim's future on his interview.

As for Tottenham, it seems fucking Levy is reluctant to pay the compensation once he sacks Ange. That's why he keeps him much longer.  Cheesy Cheesy
Nobody is expecting Amorim to do wonders for Manchester United this season. I can say that this season is already wasted for Manchester United and not only by Amorim but also by Eric Ten hang. The only thing that is expected of Manchester United coach is to be able to qualify Manchester United for Champions League next season either by crook or hook. He has lost all the chances of playing in the European League next season apart from the Europa League option. Since he has maintained his predecessor's record of unbeating in the Europa League, it is best that he capitalizes on that and win the Europa League in order to secure an automatic spot in the Champions League. It is difficult but it is also easy because he still has a player like Bruno Fernandes who can win a final for him.

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March 22, 2025, 09:19:02 PM
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Amorim should have understood where he was going, Manchester United was in a bad state even before he was appointed head coach, and after that he sold several more attacking players and what did he expect, that just because he became a coach, the team should win, no, that's not how it works. Apparently, Amorim is not as good a coach as expected, and most likely they will give him more time, Manchester United management has such an approach, they gave time to every coach they had, but as history has shown, it did not help any of them.
There is no doubt about this Ruben Amorim was well aware about his new job as he check all then he joined Manchester United now all criticism is nothing just wait and watch about his strategy which is going to have impact on Manchester United future.

Even I am also not sure about them how things will be work but as they are performing in last few matches it's taking good change which are good with chances are high they could be ended with good spot in UEFA Europa Cup which could be good because this will give them good motivation for next season. Last nine games are going to be important for them because they needed to be finish on decent spot which could be also good for them as they are having good chance of doing good at coming season.

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I think Amorim deserves more time and it's too early to judge because Erik Ten Hag really destroyed Manchester United.

Unfortunately the trophies he won made people ignore the fact that he is not a hood coach,  check I European and Epl stat, they are poor. The quality of players he got and the kind of impact he had on them, Christiano Ronaldo was right about the team mentality thanks to him. He was mod and didn't want to become better rather just settled for less.

Amorim got a huge job and I know he would have expected the task to be tough but not this tough which is the issue, let's see if he can turn things around with time.
Yeah, Eric Ten Hang really didn't handle the situation of Manchester United players properly especially that of Ronaldo. It was as if he came to the club to be a disciplinarian instead of being a coach that he was appointed for. I believe he did what he did to Ronaldo to instill fear on the other player, they would be like, 'if he can do this to a whole Ronaldo, then who are we'. With the money he spent, he was supposed to have performed better than what he did.
Unfortunately that plan that didn't work because he had issues with other players after him, with the likes of Sancho and Rashford.

His disciplinary methodology didn't work and to be honest I didn't expect it to work. They are players, you can't just instill fear on them all in just manner. Anyway his winning or competitive mentality is too poor for them to succeed, just a domestic trophy like FA Cup and Carabao cup and he thought he won it all simply because of Manchester United trophy drought.

 
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I'm wondering where Forest are going to finish the season. They are still keeping the 3rd position safely from much competition. Chelsea and Manchester City are in a distance of at least 5 points.

There are still 9 more games to be played. It is a gap that can be closed in this time period. However how good will these two teams play for top 4?  Huh

That's the prize question. They are both keeping a really bad form. With this statistics, it would be easy for Forest to keep even their current position. They still have some tough games waiting for them too so let's see...
Seeing how Forest carefully maintain their performance and consistency. It seems top 4 not impossible for them. They're looked much more prepared than Chelsea or even City. They looked so much better in any sides.

I think they can secure UCL spot for the next season. Their chance is also getting higher with how PL close in getting one additional spot for UCL. I think one of 5 UCL spots is obviously being reserved by them. They're very close in achieving it.

Lemme guess City and Chelsea may probably finish below them. Let's say there will be only one club between Chelsea / City who qualify for UCL spot after them.

That's very strict competition i guess.

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I think Amorim deserves more time and it's too early to judge because Erik Ten Hag really destroyed Manchester United.

Unfortunately the trophies he won made people ignore the fact that he is not a hood coach,  check I European and Epl stat, they are poor. The quality of players he got and the kind of impact he had on them, Christiano Ronaldo was right about the team mentality thanks to him. He was mod and didn't want to become better rather just settled for less.

Amorim got a huge job and I know he would have expected the task to be tough but not this tough which is the issue, let's see if he can turn things around with time.
Yeah, Eric Ten Hang really didn't handle the situation of Manchester United players properly especially that of Ronaldo. It was as if he came to the club to be a disciplinarian instead of being a coach that he was appointed for. I believe he did what he did to Ronaldo to instill fear on the other player, they would be like, 'if he can do this to a whole Ronaldo, then who are we'. With the money he spent, he was supposed to have performed better than what he did.
His characteristic of always being bossy makes the coaching situation not going too well. Actually, maybe the goal is good so that the players respect all the decisions or policies he wants to make, but in the end, something like this will not be good, but the opposite because many players are dissatisfied with Ten Hag's actions on or off the field, as if they were blocked from access on the grounds of indiscipline.

Not only talking about Cristiano because it cannot be denied that since Ten Hag coached Manchester United, at least there have been several players who have felt this way, such as Jadon Sancho, even some small sparks occurred at the end of Ten Hag's coaching era with Rashford and Garnacho.
It's just that this kind of character is difficult to eliminate because it has been ingrained since he was at Ajax so that what Ten Hag did at Manchester United will be considered the truth for himself.

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I think Amorim deserves more time and it's too early to judge because Erik Ten Hag really destroyed Manchester United.

Unfortunately the trophies he won made people ignore the fact that he is not a hood coach,  check I European and Epl stat, they are poor. The quality of players he got and the kind of impact he had on them, Christiano Ronaldo was right about the team mentality thanks to him. He was mod and didn't want to become better rather just settled for less.

Amorim got a huge job and I know he would have expected the task to be tough but not this tough which is the issue, let's see if he can turn things around with time.
Yeah, Eric Ten Hang really didn't handle the situation of Manchester United players properly especially that of Ronaldo. It was as if he came to the club to be a disciplinarian instead of being a coach that he was appointed for. I believe he did what he did to Ronaldo to instill fear on the other player, they would be like, 'if he can do this to a whole Ronaldo, then who are we'. With the money he spent, he was supposed to have performed better than what he did.
Unfortunately that plan that didn't work because he had issues with other players after him, with the likes of Sancho and Rashford.

His disciplinary methodology didn't work and to be honest I didn't expect it to work. They are players, you can't just instill fear on them all in just manner. Anyway his winning or competitive mentality is too poor for them to succeed, just a domestic trophy like FA Cup and Carabao cup and he thought he won it all simply because of Manchester United trophy drought.
And frankly speaking, that method can never work. There are certain players who has built there names over the years and this took them a lot of time to build, you can't just come one day and be dishing out orders as if they are your children without even considering their own part. I'm very sure in one way or the other all big name players have egos and I think that's factual. He should have looked for a better way to handle such a situation, that same player you talk bad of was coached by great manners in the past and they had no issues like the one of Ten Hang with him.

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Amorim has been United's worst coach in the history. Even Moyes has recorded better stats than him in only 5 games, while he did it on 14 games. As you can see how bad Amorim's quality is. That's why i think Manchester United has not yet comeback. Everytime they win against a small team, people called they're so back. What a fucking joke is it?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

As per Manchester United's owner, Sir Jim, he doesn't wanna sack Amoruim, but let him stay much longer. He has hinted Amorim's future on his interview.

As for Tottenham, it seems fucking Levy is reluctant to pay the compensation once he sacks Ange. That's why he keeps him much longer.  Cheesy Cheesy
Considering the duration Ruben Amorim have spent at Old Trafford as Manchester United manager, I strongly disagree with your opinion that he's the club's worst manager. He might not be as consistent as most of us predicted at the start of the season but he's not as bad as you're trying to make him look. Manchester United are I believe will do better under him next season when he must have signed players of his choice during the summer.

You're very much correct about that, you know is so funny to see how most people talk about amorim. You can't just conclude that amorim is the worst coach when he have not even spend enough time in the club, the truth is that it takes a lot of time before a team can be build. I know alot of people was expecting immediate change in the club, since they noticed that the man have been doing well  when he was still coaching sporting Sp. Of course I believe he's going to make some changes in the club is just a matter of time, they should just give him some space to think and also give him the chance to make selections on the players that he think is best for him.

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But, if we compare Amorim with another coach who successfully managed the team in half a season, Amorim looks like he failed to manage MU based what on he did before. If we talk about players who can't compact on his strategy, Amorim should quickly adaption to the current squad. he was expected by many people to lift MU position from the bottom rank, but he can't do that so far so make many people are disappointed in his performance, and perhaps recruit a new coach to replace him. If he can't recruit a new player to fill up the gap position, I think he will not be long, and will be replaced soon by a coach who is targeted such as Xavi Hernandez.


For how long will Manchester united continue to employ the services of a new coach, is already looking like the Amorim coming is failed project already, so there is need to look out for a new coach. I want you to understand that, before Amorim can lift Manchester united from the bottom rank, they also need quality players, the issue of managing average players with high expectations should be the bone of contention, Manchester united should go for good players, and they should be ready to open their Purse,  so bringing in a new coach will not entirely solve the problem, they've changed a good number of coaches in the last few years, how far has that gone with them.
We see in recent times that the Manchester United club is changing the coach very quickly. In fact this team may not have a problem with the manager, actually their players can't play properly. If the current manager of Manchester United is changed and the aforementioned Xabi Hernandez is given a chance, I think Manchester United might not be as strong either. From my point of view, Hernandez was a good player but he was not good enough as a coach. Because we have seen before that he was a coach of Barcelona, but he could not perform his duties properly. So my personal opinion is that Manchester United have to purchase their quality players to strengthen.
Yes, a complete overhaul team is good, by buying another new player can cover the weakness, MU needs a player who becomes the motor of the attack, so far Amad Diallo is good from the winger side, and MU needs a type of player on the another side to supply to the attacker. MU also needs a sharp attacker like Gyokeres which is suitable for Amorim's strategy, but it doesn't have to be him, because many types of players like him are on the market. Most likely be difficult if Amorim only expects him to strengthen the squad, because Sporting will sell it for a high price next season, if only Gyokeres, certainly won't be enough money to buy many new player.
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No FA Cup, No EFL Cup and a 13th place in the PL. So yes, this is really the worst year recently for Manchester United.  Tongue  Amorim is feeling all the pressure over himself. Now there is only the Europa League left in hand. Do you think they will get to the trophy there? The last time they did it was 2016 with Mourinho. In the same year they finished the PL in 6th place. It looks like Amorim doesn't have much of a choice now. If no trophy there too then his future will be at a bigger risk.

Tottenham and them are both teams we should be seeing in much better places in the league certainly. Really stressful days are waiting for Ange and Amorim... Both aim the Europa League trophy now.
While I do agree on how United sucks so far and Amorim couldn't figure out a way to fix the team, it would be unfair to suggest David Moyes is a better manager. Switch places and put Amorim at Everton and put Moyes at United, and the results wouldn't be too far off, it would still be similar, because Everton doesn't have something fundamentally wrong with them, they are just a smaller club and this is what they can do, not like they are a team that normally spend enough to win the title but playing bad now.

United IS a team like that, we are talking about a team that spends as much as almost any team, and yet still suck. There is something wrong there, which no manager fixed, and until whatever that is broken is fixed, no manager will be helpful.

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Amorim has been United's worst coach in the history. Even Moyes has recorded better stats than him in only 5 games, while he did it on 14 games. As you can see how bad Amorim's quality is. That's why i think Manchester United has not yet comeback. Everytime they win against a small team, people called they're so back. What a fucking joke is it?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

As per Manchester United's owner, Sir Jim, he doesn't wanna sack Amoruim, but let him stay much longer. He has hinted Amorim's future on his interview.

As for Tottenham, it seems fucking Levy is reluctant to pay the compensation once he sacks Ange. That's why he keeps him much longer.  Cheesy Cheesy
Amorim should have understood where he was going, Manchester United was in a bad state even before he was appointed head coach, and after that he sold several more attacking players and what did he expect, that just because he became a coach, the team should win, no, that's not how it works. Apparently, Amorim is not as good a coach as expected, and most likely they will give him more time, Manchester United management has such an approach, they gave time to every coach they had, but as history has shown, it did not help any of them.
Have you seen a coach of Man U that has not been ridiculed and thrown several blames in recent years? That's why I am not surprised about yours, it's the beginning for Amorim and perhaps he will not be the one leading the club by this time next year, it has always been like that for Man U. This doesn't spare the players too, it's just like a curse, when they were bought, they would be very outstanding, after all, that's why they were bought, but on getting to Old Trafford, the issue starts. On leaving again, they rediscover themselves, the case of Anthony is a good one. Man U is what it is.

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The Main problem of Manchester United right now is in his roots, they can't find a new Golden generación to start to build something bigger, i'm not talking about something like the 92 generación, but something sólid.

For example, Mainoo seems like a pretty good and solid player and what happen to him?
And like him i can name a few more.

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The Main problem of Manchester United right now is in his roots, they can't find a new Golden generación to start to build something bigger, i'm not talking about something like the 92 generación, but something sólid.

For example, Mainoo seems like a pretty good and solid player and what happen to him?
And like him i can name a few more.
I heard that few teams interested with Dalot, Manchester United who're rich team should able to convince their current good players to stay instead of joining new teams, imagine they're already bad and they allow their good players to leave.

I feel like Mainoo is overrated, he and Leny Yoro are nothing different, they're very young and their performance are so-so.

I see Amad Diallo might be the best Academy player from MU in this season

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Amorim has been United's worst coach in the history. Even Moyes has recorded better stats than him in only 5 games, while he did it on 14 games. As you can see how bad Amorim's quality is. That's why i think Manchester United has not yet comeback. Everytime they win against a small team, people called they're so back. What a fucking joke is it?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

As per Manchester United's owner, Sir Jim, he doesn't wanna sack Amoruim, but let him stay much longer. He has hinted Amorim's future on his interview.

As for Tottenham, it seems fucking Levy is reluctant to pay the compensation once he sacks Ange. That's why he keeps him much longer.  Cheesy Cheesy
Amorim should have understood where he was going, Manchester United was in a bad state even before he was appointed head coach, and after that he sold several more attacking players and what did he expect, that just because he became a coach, the team should win, no, that's not how it works. Apparently, Amorim is not as good a coach as expected, and most likely they will give him more time, Manchester United management has such an approach, they gave time to every coach they had, but as history has shown, it did not help any of them.
Have you seen a coach of Man U that has not been ridiculed and thrown several blames in recent years? That's why I am not surprised about yours, it's the beginning for Amorim and perhaps he will not be the one leading the club by this time next year, it has always been like that for Man U. This doesn't spare the players too, it's just like a curse, when they were bought, they would be very outstanding, after all, that's why they were bought, but on getting to Old Trafford, the issue starts. On leaving again, they rediscover themselves, the case of Anthony is a good one. Man U is what it is.
Manchester United is not the only club that players do go and wouldn't be able to perform well. It happens in other clubs too. I don't see why you guys are not seeing it that the players United are buying cannot fit in to their game style and EPL. Some players can perform well in a smaller club than when they're in a big club.

Only if United can buy the right players that will make football easy for them and interesting to watch.

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The Main problem of Manchester United right now is in his roots, they can't find a new Golden generación to start to build something bigger, i'm not talking about something like the 92 generación, but something sólid.

For example, Mainoo seems like a pretty good and solid player and what happen to him?
And like him i can name a few more.

Manchester United youth setup is really good actually. Ther are so many great talents growing out of there.  Smiley  Mainoo is an example yeah and Diallo is another. Especially Diallo is such a great talent! I remember the games he saved for his team this season. This kind of talents shouldn't be wasted easily. Amorim was actually caring about them. But both of them have been injured for quite a while. There is still some more time to see them back.

Anyways in the end, they can get better in time unless they stop investing into their youngsters. Together with that of course they must bring quality players too this summer. The squad quality now is just really bad.  Tongue

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