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Author Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽  (Read 150539 times)
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March 27, 2025, 11:06:52 AM
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So far,  these are the signatures done by INEOS.

You cannot tell me these players have not improved Manchester United one way or the other this season. Club legends of Manchester United have heavily criticised these players but truth be told, these players might have been lowly rated under Erik ten Hag but we can't say the same under Ruben Amorim. I won't be boggled seeing them qualify for the Champions league competition when they win the UEL.
If they have helped the club improved, why would Manchester United still be struggling at the moment and still in the position that they're in the league table? if their has been enough contributions from these list of players you mentioned. They're in 13th position which is way far from 8 position where they ended last season ,and currently no guarantee for the Europa Cup.

I'm not a United fan but truth be told, it's so unfair that you're focused on the Premier League when talking about Manchester United's improvement instead of all round, ain't you seeing the performance of those players in the Europea League? Or is that not a major tournament that should be worth praising them for? Incase you don't know, Manchester United still holds the record this season as the only team that's yet to be beaten in Europea League, that's to some of those players people are criticising.

 They're still in the Europea League and if they win it they'll move straight to the Champions League even though they finish in 13th position in the Premier League, Ineos is trying when it comes to improvement in Manchester United their management of the team is better than when the Glaziers were fully in control so let's give them their flowers and acknowledge the good signings they made, if they can do same this summers, I believe Manchester United would improve in the EPL.

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March 27, 2025, 11:21:33 AM
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Since Ferguson left the club Manchester United have not been a club recognized with that level of patience with managers. They have been known to be strict and inpatient with managers just like Chelsea believing the managers were the problem why the club has struggled for years to maintain stability in their performance at all levels ignoring the fact that the problem traces up to the top hierarchy too.
That era ended with Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger many years ago, and nowadays you can not find such patience given to a head coach in many years. The world changed, football changed, club owners changed, monetary power and effects on football club development strategies changed. Nothing is the same like 20 years ago, and Manchester United are like all other clubs, no longer have too much patience for their head coaches.

They tried it with Solskajer then Ten Hag, but failed and they will probably change their strategy and approach again. There are clubs that don't need to work with a coach for 10 years or longer but still succeed, so actual main problems in Manchester United are something else, not only patience.

No, I don't think they are strong anyway. But at least it is nice to see them not losing all the time.  Grin  Amorim's main target must be the Europa League trophy now so I wouldn't bet on them in Premier League games during the rest of the season.

It will actually be difficult to make bets on some teams in top places. Like Liverpool and Arsenal for example. Liverpool are going for the title comfortably and Arsenal aren't in the title race anymore so they will be focused on the Champions League more.

Maybe I can only bet on teams fighting for a top 4 finish.  Smiley
Arsenal are like a team that can not win Champions League but have to fully focus on it because they have zero chance to win Premier League title. Liverpool are like a team that can win Champions League but with one bad match they were eliminated by PSG and have to focus on Premier League.  With lately things happened in Champions League, Liverpool will win Premier League title, I don't doubt about it, and Arsenal will have more reasons to fight as best as they can in Champions League.

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March 27, 2025, 11:21:44 AM
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If they have helped the club improved, why would Manchester United still be struggling at the moment and still in the position that they're in the league table? if their has been enough contributions from these list of players you mentioned. They're in 13th position which is way far from 8 position where they ended last season ,and currently no guarantee for the Europa Cup.

Yes, that's right, Manchester United's current position in the standings is enough to explain that the team is currently not performing well. And the arrival of Amorin in the middle of the season is a big hope for Manchester United to return to winning ways, but in reality Amorin has not been able to boost the quality of the players and bring MU to perform better in the highest caste of the English League or in other domestic competitions. So now Man United's only hope for Man United to get a trophy at the end of the season is to perform optimally in the UEFA Europa League, which has now reached the quarter-finals.

And if Amorin fails in the UEL, it seems that at the end of the season Amorin will have to leave Old Trofford again because at this time it has not yet reached the end of the season, the Club has prepared a new replacement for Ruben Amorin.

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March 27, 2025, 11:39:17 AM
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So far,  these are the signatures done by INEOS.

You cannot tell me these players have not improved Manchester United one way or the other this season. Club legends of Manchester United have heavily criticised these players but truth be told, these players might have been lowly rated under Erik ten Hag but we can't say the same under Ruben Amorim. I won't be boggled seeing them qualify for the Champions league competition when they win the UEL.
If they have helped the club improved, why would Manchester United still be struggling at the moment and still in the position that they're in the league table? if their has been enough contributions from these list of players you mentioned. They're in 13th position which is way far from 8 position where they ended last season ,and currently no guarantee for the Europa Cup.

Is a good question because we would agreed if this players had made the struggling of Manchester United stop, so if he says the previous coach of Manchester United did not value them than the current coach is fine but they are just whom they are, have we not seen how one of the Chelsea players has been making himself very relevant to Chelsea not just ones but consistently, that's impact, though I'm not using Chelsea because I value them more than other but I'm just using there players to explain difference in quality. So actually how they no a club is changing whether positive or negative is from there last season, so Manchester United is in almost two times unimpressive this year than the last.

 
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March 27, 2025, 12:01:37 PM
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Manchester United building a bad front office happened because of the bad owners. They had Glazers running the show for a decade or more when they were going down, and then Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS took over and it still doesn't look that great. The team first needs to get everything refurbished and get all the high tech stuff other teams have.

We saw how Ronaldo talked about everything was exactly same when he returned and after that United spent some money on the club instead of just the players too. That needs to rise a lot more, even the players who grew up in their youth squad are looking to other teams in order to move to a winner club. If they can make the club more enticing, then they could convince better players.
Manchester United are in a difficult phase to start everything, and it is natural that young players do not see a bright future guarantee at the club. They need certainty but Glazer does not care as long as he gets the benefit of the big name advertising of Manchester United. Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS cannot move freely without full support from Glazer and what I see now is that Manchester United will only run in place without making any changes. What Ronaldo complained about when he returned to Manchester United was proven and slowly everyone saw clearly how rotten the club management system was.

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March 27, 2025, 12:29:28 PM
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How many of those players were improving?  Cheesy Cheesy I see Mezaroui is the only best player on the list. He's improving a lot compared with the rest, and worthy with his price.

Zirkzee, Yoro. Ugarte, and De ligt are bang average. They didn't meet my expectation and aren't worth with their price. The rest are just absolute garbage.

You’re right, among all the players Manchester United signed this season, Mezaroui seems to be the only player who has met the expectations. De Ligt usually commits a foul that can lead to a penalty, and Yoro failed to perform to the level I expected of him, I believe we were fooled by highlights of his performance from Lille that we watched because his defensive skills couldn’t reach the half as good as they were at his former club, I wonder why Manchester United competed with Madrid just to signed an average player.

Zirkzee, on the other hand, I have noticed some changes in his performances in the recent games since Amorim changed his position to attacking midfield, remember the team signed him as a striker to compete with Hojlund, but Zirkzee is not a complete striker. Dorgu also needs more time to adjust to the team, I was impressed by his performance in the Europa League against Sociedad, to be honest, if were not for Fernandes, he would have deserved to be named player of the match.

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I would love to see what Amorim will do in the transfer market this summer and how he would improve the team next season atleast it is sure that he will survive sack this season but how about Ange Postecoglou? Will he also survive and not get sacked before the new season? I also don’t consider him a bad coach but time will tell.
Actually am not expecting much participation from Amorim or even Manchester united in this upcoming transfer market due to what happened in the last transfer market. In the last transfer market, Manchester united failed to transact vigorously even when it was obvious that the team was in dire need of new players yet the club couldn't do the needful thereby making everyone feel as if the manager was comfortable with the kind of players he had in his team and i feel they will maintain the status quo this time around especially now that the team is experiencing some sort of improvement in terms of result.











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I would love to see what Amorim will do in the transfer market this summer and how he would improve the team next season atleast it is sure that he will survive sack this season but how about Ange Postecoglou? Will he also survive and not get sacked before the new season? I also don’t consider him a bad coach but time will tell.
Actually am not expecting much participation from Amorim or even Manchester united in this upcoming transfer market due to what happened in the last transfer market. In the last transfer market, Manchester united failed to transact vigorously even when it was obvious that the team was in dire need of new players yet the club couldn't do the needful thereby making everyone feel as if the manager was comfortable with the kind of players he had in his team and i feel they will maintain the status quo this time around especially now that the team is experiencing some sort of improvement in terms of result.

Amorim need to make some improvements in the club, because if he didn't buy any players in the next transfer window. I don't think Manchester United will perform very great next season. The players that Manchester United have currently they are not helping the team to perform good. If Manchester United players are good enough I don't think they will be in the 13th position in the league currently.  Amad, Bruno, Mezaroui that I know that are helping the club, and since Amad get injured there performance was reduced Amorim is just managing the player for now. he need to build is on team and if he will try to do that, definitely he need to buy some new key players in the team. Manchester United don't have good striker in my on opinion because I don't see any improvement from Zirkzee yet.

The only competition am seeing Manchester united's are trying hard, is Europa League and they are doing there best to achieve the title. Because that is the only trophy that will help Manchester United to get ucl next season. I will wish that Amorim should try and buy some key players to the team. he as be long that Manchester United compete in the league title. with the Amorim next season they will improve better and challenge the tough club in the league competition. Let see if Manchester United will succeeded and win the Europa League and qualify to ucl next season. However in the league nothing they can do anymore. Because I don't think Manchester United can finish in 5th position this season, expect they can win all there remaining matches in the league, and that will be very difficult for Amorim with the players is using currently.

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How many of those players were improving?  Cheesy Cheesy I see Mezaroui is the only best player on the list. He's improving a lot compared with the rest, and worthy with his price.

Zirkzee, Yoro. Ugarte, and De ligt are bang average. They didn't meet my expectation and aren't worth with their price. The rest are just absolute garbage.
I see that Mezaroui is indeed quite good during the match in every match and shows a decent performance, and it is not wrong for Manchester United to choose him because his passes are always right on target making his opponents wary, when competing against Fulham, Mezaroui can indeed be relied on in every match and is always optimal with a qualified physique, and I noticed that Zirkzee has not had any significant improvement in every match, maybe he needs to learn a lot to adjust to this Manchester United team.
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So far,  these are the signatures done by INEOS.

You cannot tell me these players have not improved Manchester United one way or the other this season. Club legends of Manchester United have heavily criticised these players but truth be told, these players might have been lowly rated under Erik ten Hag but we can't say the same under Ruben Amorim. I won't be boggled seeing them qualify for the Champions league competition when they win the UEL.

How many of those players were improving?  Cheesy Cheesy I see Mezaroui is the only best player on the list. He's improving a lot compared with the rest, and worthy with his price.

Zirkzee, Yoro. Ugarte, and De ligt are bang average. They didn't meet my expectation and aren't worth with their price. The rest are just absolute garbage.


Not all are improving, we haven't met much about Yoro, injury prone player and for the few times we witnessed him play may not have been an absolute treasure for what was paid for him, he might do better when he recovers and gets more playing time.

Zirkzee, Ugarte and Yoro are the average players on that list, De light and Mazraoui are supposed to be on the same ranking.

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The board of Manchester United is corrupt because even when Erik Ten Hang had a bad performance as a coach in the team they still gave him another contract which made Manchester United pay him a huge amount of money after sacking him, Manchester United lost a lot of money because they did not have a good president and also a good board members, I believe now Manchester United can build the team as things are about to change.

Giving him a new contract doesn't mean they're corrupt; it may simply mean they're bad at their jobs. They felt that by giving Ten Hag more time, he would get better, but it got worse. What made them believe giving him a new contract was worth it was that he won a trophy at the end of the season.
Giving him a new contract was a bad idea because he should have been sacked sooner.

So far,  these are the signatures done by INEOS.
You cannot tell me these players have not improved Manchester United one way or the other this season. Club legends of Manchester United have heavily criticised these players but truth be told, these players might have been lowly rated under Erik ten Hag but we can't say the same under Ruben Amorim. I won't be boggled seeing them qualify for the Champions league competition when they win the UEL.

These players have not improved in my opinion. The whole team have not improved too. If these players have improved, we will see it I how they play and they would not struggle every match day.

Qualifying for the champions league is a good thing, it will make it easier for United to make good signings in the summer because players won't like to play for a team that's not playing in Europe at all, but I struggle to see United winning the UEL. 


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So far,  these are the signatures done by INEOS.

You cannot tell me these players have not improved Manchester United one way or the other this season. Club legends of Manchester United have heavily criticised these players but truth be told, these players might have been lowly rated under Erik ten Hag but we can't say the same under Ruben Amorim. I won't be boggled seeing them qualify for the Champions league competition when they win the UEL.

I really can't be sure of any player at Manchester United these days. Except players like Bruno Fernandes and Diallo for example. Because the team have been performing really badly for a long time.

This is overshadowing the performances of some new signings too maybe.  Sad  But as for the general quality of the squad I just don't find it good enough. Remembering Manchester United's old squads in the past, they can build a much better one than the current one.

Whoever they bring as a manager I don't think much thing will change in this situation. There is a need of renovation.

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Whoever they bring as a manager I don't think much thing will change in this situation. There is a need of renovation.

Anyway, I think that's what Amorim really wants to convey. He did come with determination and new hope for United, but he needs some changes in the team. So far there is not much we can see. United do have a chance in the Europa League, but we still have to see how hard work and luck will be on their side. Unlike their chances in the Premier League, Amorim might not do much for the Premier League.

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I don't understand why Manchester United made such a poor decision to entrust the club's affairs to the wrong set of people. While you believe Alex Ferguson might have played a role, I don't entirely agree. A retiring coach making suggestions for his replacement doesn't mean the club should have blindly followed his advice.

The club needed proper restructuring and with Ruben Amorim as head coach, Jason Wilcox as sporting director,  and Christopher Vivell as director of recruitment, there may be positive changes and smarter signing of quality players that will align with Ruben Amorim's vision, making the club competitive again.
Maybe in a normal situation that could make sense, but we are talking about "Sir" Alex Ferguson here. How many Sir titled people you know that are also managers? He is the only one I can think of, which means that dude was an extraordinary situation and wasn't a normal regular manager. In which case, we could easily say that he wasn't really doing just his replacement, he wasn't giving just some suggestion, he was ordering, if you do not listen to him and also fail?

You are going to be booed every single game until you are out. Management was forced to just accept him. Thankfully, he is out of the club now and no matter what he says, the team has to figure out their own way from now out and that may actually make them better.



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Manchester City certainly are no where close to their performance level in the past six years. They are usually the best team in the past six years but this season they have fallen far behind in the league and it’s a shame that after missing two good opportunities to  win the title Arsenal finally get an opportunity without Manchester City to hinder and still losing it to Liverpool who are currently top and leading with 12 points.
As it looks right now, Man City is in a bad period since the last few seasons, as a result the dominance in the EPL is certainly going to end. There are many things that need to be fixed to compete again in the title race, I am very optimistic that next season they will return to their best form.
Arsenal have consistently provided competition in the title race, but they have always finished second at the end of the season. This season they will fail again even though they are not competing with Man City.
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Whoever they bring as a manager I don't think much thing will change in this situation. There is a need of renovation.

Anyway, I think that's what Amorim really wants to convey. He did come with determination and new hope for United, but he needs some changes in the team. So far there is not much we can see. United do have a chance in the Europa League, but we still have to see how hard work and luck will be on their side. Unlike their chances in the Premier League, Amorim might not do much for the Premier League.

With only a few more matches, it is no longer possible for Manchester United to increase its position in the class. But to restore the players' self -confidence and also pronounce the trust of fans, Amorin and the team must appear brilliant in the rest of their matches. This is very important to achieve, if indeed in the next season Man United will really rise

Salah is in top form right now as he can't stop scoring and assisting. Letting him leave will be a massive loss for Liverpool. And as for Rodrygo being considered as a replacement, I don't really see as that person. The Premier League is physically demanding and highly competitive and in my opinion does not suit Rodrygo style of play.

It is true with what you say because considering that not too many Brazilian players can adapt to the English League, especially those positioned as attackers. So it is natural that there are many people who say that Rodrygo's style will not be suitable when grazing in the English League

And at this time the presence of Moh Salah on the Liverpool attack line is still the main strength of Liverpool in scoring goals and also in achieving victory. And if he has a blessing this season, deciding to retire or move to another league, then this will be a big problem like the arne slot that must immediately find a suitable replacement to replace Moh Salah's position.

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March 27, 2025, 03:53:02 PM
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The board of Manchester United is corrupt because even when Erik Ten Hang had a bad performance as a coach in the team they still gave him another contract which made Manchester United pay him a huge amount of money after sacking him, Manchester United lost a lot of money because they did not have a good president and also a good board members, I believe now Manchester United can build the team as things are about to change.
Giving him a new contract doesn't mean they're corrupt; it may simply mean they're bad at their jobs. They felt that by giving Ten Hag more time, he would get better, but it got worse. What made them believe giving him a new contract was worth it was that he won a trophy at the end of the season.
Giving him a new contract was a bad idea because he should have been sacked sooner.
They are neither corrupt nor ignorant of what they are doing, instead I think they are following what they feel is the best for the club. Management of a big club is not just an easy and straight forward thing, there are things you consider, most of which are futuristic. Therefore, I strongly think that the management of Manchester United are looking at the future like a few years from now that Amorim is expected to have built a very competitive Manchester United. So, I see no mistakes in thinking in this direction, besides, it will be hard to bring someone that will transform the club overnight... everything takes processes.

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March 27, 2025, 03:54:54 PM
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So far,  these are the signatures done by INEOS.

You cannot tell me these players have not improved Manchester United one way or the other this season. Club legends of Manchester United have heavily criticised these players but truth be told, these players might have been lowly rated under Erik ten Hag but we can't say the same under Ruben Amorim. I won't be boggled seeing them qualify for the Champions league competition when they win the UEL.
If they have helped the club improved, why would Manchester United still be struggling at the moment and still in the position that they're in the league table? if their has been enough contributions from these list of players you mentioned. They're in 13th position which is way far from 8 position where they ended last season ,and currently no guarantee for the Europa Cup.

I'm not a United fan but truth be told, it's so unfair that you're focused on the Premier League when talking about Manchester United's improvement instead of all round, ain't you seeing the performance of those players in the Europea League? Or is that not a major tournament that should be worth praising them for? Incase you don't know, Manchester United still holds the record this season as the only team that's yet to be beaten in Europea League, that's to some of those players people are criticising.

 They're still in the Europea League and if they win it they'll move straight to the Champions League even though they finish in 13th position in the Premier League, Ineos is trying when it comes to improvement in Manchester United their management of the team is better than when the Glaziers were fully in control so let's give them their flowers and acknowledge the good signings they made, if they can do same this summers, I believe Manchester United would improve in the EPL.
Now tell me, would you ever compare the Manchester United of Sir Alex Fegurson time to today's Man United?  despite we are not expecting them to be in same form as at then but Manchester united shouldn't be struggling to qualify for the Champions league each season and even to the extent of hopping on that the Europa cup would get them there, and what's your guarantee that Man United are going to lift the Europa League trophy?

Lastly, what other trophy do you hope they're going to lift?

 
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March 27, 2025, 03:56:41 PM
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Anyway, I think that's what Amorim really wants to convey. He did come with determination and new hope for United, but he needs some changes in the team. So far there is not much we can see. United do have a chance in the Europa League, but we still have to see how hard work and luck will be on their side. Unlike their chances in the Premier League, Amorim might not do much for the Premier League.

With only a few more matches, it is no longer possible for Manchester United to increase its position in the class. But to restore the players' self -confidence and also pronounce the trust of fans, Amorin and the team must appear brilliant in the rest of their matches. This is very important to achieve, if indeed in the next season Man United will really rise

I also think that's what Amorim has to achieve. If he can make United's performance better in the rest of the season. He will gain the trust of the fans and also the players in the team. It's not an easy problem to do, being in 13th position in the standings right now is not a good result. Surely the bad result will bring some criticism to him, either from fans or from observers.
Don't know about next season, but right now, United are still not finished with bad results.

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March 27, 2025, 04:10:19 PM
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Now tell me, would you ever compare the Manchester United of Sir Alex Fegurson time to today's Man United?  despite we are not expecting them to be in same form as at then but Manchester united shouldn't be struggling to qualify for the Champions league each season and even to the extent of hopping on that the Europa cup would get them there, and what's your guarantee that Man United are going to lift the Europa League trophy?

Lastly, what other trophy do you hope they're going to lift?

Sorry but this is the same mentality almost every Manchester United fan have in the world they simply want the same old Manchester United back to winning ways, challenging for the title and winning multiple games. This deals aren’t bad and are actually good but Manchester United fans need to come to reality that this isn’t their status anymore. Manchester United have been chasing glory and this has lead the club to over spend since Ferguson left and still not a great result to show for it.

What Manchester United need is simply why INEOS are practically doing in my opinion, start the rebuild and stop chasing immediate success by signing big Money players anyhow. Even the great Sir Alex Ferguson was actually allowed to rebuild Manchester United for almost three season where they even finish low. An example of this is Liverpool when they appointed club and gave him time to rebuild he actually did wonderfully and it is the work that slot is actually benefiting from now.

So if you ask me yes Manchester United current position is bad but it is good for reality check to be sincere, quick fix over the years haven’t done any good and INEOS simply want to stop that which I support

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