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June 19, 2025, 07:59:05 PM
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Honestly United do not look like they could win anything, not EFL, not FA, not premier league, not anything else, and not like they will be in Europe next season, they won't be, so they are not doing anything at UEFA neither, so all along we have been considering all of this as a being a trouble for the situation.

What we are dealing with right now is the fact that I am going to be pretty sure next season they will be either 10th or somewhere along there, nothing more and that is obvious when you look at their squad. I agree that he is not going to do anything better and we have to make sure that they are not dealing with anything that will make it a lot better for them, it's going to be a quite a bad one.

Before we come into conclusion on the many issues surrounding Manchester United, we should see how their final squad for the next season are going to be presented. The fact is that they’re not going to be playing in any European competition next season and they have all the time they can to train well and be in their best form while also avoiding fatigue of the players, that may be an advantage for them if they’re able to utilize it well.

Last season was sour for them, Amorim will be prepared for what is yet to come for the premier league season for them next season while having maximum concentration on one competition. He better show that he’s the best man for the job because he is really going to get nuked if he doesn’t even get a champions league or at least an Europa league spot for the team at the end of the season.











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June 19, 2025, 08:02:59 PM
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It is actually not certain yet whether Osimhen will sign for Manchester United. The Red Devils are for sure in the race but they aren't alone in it.  Tongue

Al-Hilal is still after him, there are other unnamed Premier League teams are also and Juventus is said to be monitoring his situation too. But honestly it would really be a great signing for Manchester United.

Neither Hojlund nor Zirkzee can get near him in performance...

With Cunha done and Bryan Mbeumo most likely to join, we really need not pressure ourselves for Victor Osimhen considering he won't reduce his salary. If he wants to stay in Europe, these are the necessary sacrifice he's meant to make for himself. Mikel and Jay Jay Okocha must have told him. I don't see Manchester United signing Victor Osimhen,  they'd most likely get the deal done for Viktor Gyökeres.

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June 19, 2025, 08:17:15 PM
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Liverpool just acted as if there was a team who were in serious competition with them on who will sign the German footballer Florian Wirtz. When i checked the statistics of the attacking midfielder, there is nothing so special about him because out of 31 games he played last season, he scored just 10 goals and made 12 assists which is something an average player can equally do. I know he will make quality impact to Liverpool, but the transfer amount is just too high but since Liverpool have already signed him, it's left for him to play his part. I don't think Liverpool need any more strikers because their forwards are enough, they have Mohamed Salah, Diogo Jota, Cody Gakpo, Darwin Núñez and Luis Díaz. Definitely, the team is well prepared ahead of next season.
Liverpool has the money to get the player why keep him priced for long in the transfer market.  You called Florian Wirtz an average player, comparing him to players we have in the Premier League he is more than average. Florian Wirtz is an attacking midfielder, and he scored 10 goals and 12 assists, ranked 4th in combined goals and assists by a midfielder in Europe's top five leagues 2024-25. From Premier it was only Palmer and Wissa that was able to top him alongside Olise who topped the list, It's an understatement to call Florian Wirtz average, judging from what he did last season.

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June 19, 2025, 09:14:07 PM
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Honestly United do not look like they could win anything, not EFL, not FA, not premier league, not anything else, and not like they will be in Europe next season, they won't be, so they are not doing anything at UEFA neither, so all along we have been considering all of this as a being a trouble for the situation.
I second that, i know they are going to make a few signings this summer, they have already signed Cunha from Wolves, but just as other good players have signed for United and lost their form, the same thing could well happen to some of their new signings, because once a player joins United in recent time, they start to struggle.

That said, their goal for next season is definitely not to win the EPL, they cannot move from 15th position to win the league. So they would hopefully be looking at a top four finish, though it is unlikely they would make it. Their aim should be to win either the Fa cup or Carabao cup.
Manchester United current position is far from coming top any time soon, at least not even in the next two seasons ahead will they have that privilege of topping the league, considering have poor Manchester United have played on the last two to three seasons back it make much sense for them to focus at recovering from such a backward position and performance before aiming to win the  league at whatever point.


I thought Manchester United were going to sign new players, that could help them recover like top striker that can easily deliver for the club and changing their current position into something better.
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June 19, 2025, 09:34:01 PM
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What we are dealing with right now is the fact that I am going to be pretty sure next season they will be either 10th or somewhere along there, nothing more and that is obvious when you look at their squad. I agree that he is not going to do anything better and we have to make sure that they are not dealing with anything that will make it a lot better for them, it's going to be a quite a bad one.
Am not expecting anything from Manchester United by next season, some people are thinking since Amorim is signing new players, everything is going to change by next season, and maybe they are thinking they will be competing for the title race by next season, but I know that’s not even going to be possible.

The season haven’t started yet, but from the way am seeing things, then I don’t think Manchester United will get to the champions league zone by next season. They ended the recent season in 15th position, then am expecting them to end next season in a better position, maybe around 10th which you mentioned, but I don’t think Manchester United will even smell top 5.

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June 19, 2025, 11:48:40 PM
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Not impressive, but not bad either, maybe that is my assessment of their debut with Manchester City. But of course this is still a very long journey, because after all this is the first time they have played with Manchester City and from what I see when their chemistry is better then there is potential for their game to be more visible.
At least they won and got good points, this is good enough for a start, it's just that this is still a long journey ahead. so Pep must stay focused on improving his team's performance and also ensuring that the tactics work well for each match.

although currently Man City is currently being hit by problems related to the rule against in the Premier League and has been fined £1 million to be paid.

Source: Man City have been fined more than £1 million by the Premier League

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Let's watch Spurs game next season to see if Frank is going to take the team to a good direction but until then it is still not certain if Tottenham will become better compared to how they were last season despite their lucky Europa League win. Tottenham going to the UCL is going to be challenging unless they make a very good use of the transfer market to get good players so that Frank can unleash his style and the plan for his new team.

Yes, I agree, next season Spurs have to be an exemplary team, they must show that they deserve to be in the UCL and that they are a team at the level of the best, the PL has always Stood out for being one of the teams with the highest physical level and in football, now they have the Opportunity to show it and for everyone to realize that what they achieved was not due to mere luck or a bad moment on the part of the Player but because they truly are a very tough and strong team.

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There are two suitors for Osimhen from the Premier League, Liverpool and M.United.
It is known that M.United wants Osimhen more and they want to transfer him.
The difference between Viktor Gyokeres and Osimhen is that Osimhen has proven himself very well.
The only disadvantage of Osimhen is his salary. If Napoli and M.United agree on a transfer fee, Osimhen will want a lower salary because Osimhen's first aim is to play in the Premier League.

You are right. Victor Osimhen will surely want a lower salary if his deal to come to Manchester United is sealed. The player wants to play in the Premier League competition, and this will be a dream if any club Osimhen has proved how good he is at football, and that’s why big clubs in the Premier League want him. I feel like Manchester United are more interested in getting him than Liverpool because I have heard more rumours about Manchester United's interest in getting Osimhen than Liverpool's.

I hope Osimhen's management and Manchester United's agreement should be concluded in this transfer window. There is more to see from Osimhen; he is going to be a beast if he plays in the Premier League.
Osimhen will be a beast in the Premier League so I want to see Osimhen go to the Premier League and realize his full potential. It will be easier in Liverpool, they are already at the top of the league and that is why he will get used to it immediately and start scoring goals.

Manchester United will be more difficult, even if it is more difficult, if Osimhen carries Manchester United and does more individually, he will be able to change Manchester United's bad fate and this could be a good reward for Osimhen in this scenario.


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What we are dealing with right now is the fact that I am going to be pretty sure next season they will be either 10th or somewhere along there, nothing more and that is obvious when you look at their squad. I agree that he is not going to do anything better and we have to make sure that they are not dealing with anything that will make it a lot better for them, it's going to be a quite a bad one.
Am not expecting anything from Manchester United by next season, some people are thinking since Amorim is signing new players, everything is going to change by next season, and maybe they are thinking they will be competing for the title race by next season, but I know that’s not even going to be possible.

The season haven’t started yet, but from the way am seeing things, then I don’t think Manchester United will get to the champions league zone by next season. They ended the recent season in 15th position, then am expecting them to end next season in a better position, maybe around 10th which you mentioned, but I don’t think Manchester United will even smell top 5.
United ended up 15th not without a reason. The team's been on a spiral in the last ten years. The points gap between United and the Champions League positions last season was an big 27 points. That is not something you solve with a couple new signings or a new coach bounce. Even Amorim had a reputation, but the moment he came to Old Trafford, his points-per-match crashed in comparison to Sporting. And he tries to force a 3-4-3 system on a team built by three or four managers, none of whom had any idea what the others were doing. The very heart is broken. This will not be months but years to correct. Well, forget top 4. The best case scenario is mid-table unless something crazy happens

 
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Both those players need to be sold. They're not good enough. They're players that will do well in smaller teams, but in a team like United, they won't be able to succeed. I wonder why United even signed them in the first place. They didn't prove themselves to be players who are up to the standard of United.

Y'all are too quick to shit on Manchester United players but damn right,  Joshua Zirkzee has proved the fans wrong. He has a lot to add to this Manchester united side and he is very good with link up plays with his wingers and also drops deep when necessary. I can't say the same thing for Rasmus Hojlund. As much as he wants to stay and fight for his place, I don't want to conclude how things will end for him.
Erik ten Hag wanted Harry Kane but the management brought in Rasmus Hojlund.

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United ended up 15th not without a reason. The team's been on a spiral in the last ten years. The points gap between United and the Champions League positions last season was an big 27 points. That is not something you solve with a couple new signings or a new coach bounce. Even Amorim had a reputation, but the moment he came to Old Trafford, his points-per-match crashed in comparison to Sporting. And he tries to force a 3-4-3 system on a team built by three or four managers, none of whom had any idea what the others were doing. The very heart is broken. This will not be months but years to correct. Well, forget top 4. The best case scenario is mid-table unless something crazy happens

It's quite difficult for Ruben Amorim to make Man United better, not because he doesn't have the ability, but because the new system he brings is not familiar to the Man United players. Besides, he came at the wrong time, as all he needs are players who can really fit into the new strategy, while Man United no longer have any funds left because the previous coach was so wasteful in his purchases, therefore, Amorim is really limited if he wants to sign the players he wants.

I think Man United have the potential to be successful with Ruben Amorim, but not in the near future, unless the Glazers and Jim Ratcliffe leave and Sheikh Jassim comes in instead.
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Let's watch Spurs game next season to see if Frank is going to take the team to a good direction but until then it is still not certain if Tottenham will become better compared to how they were last season despite their lucky Europa League win. Tottenham going to the UCL is going to be challenging unless they make a very good use of the transfer market to get good players so that Frank can unleash his style and the plan for his new team.
Yes, I agree, next season Spurs have to be an exemplary team, they must show that they deserve to be in the UCL and that they are a team at the level of the best, the PL has always Stood out for being one of the teams with the highest physical level and in football, now they have the Opportunity to show it and for everyone to realize that what they achieved was not due to mere luck or a bad moment on the part of the Player but because they truly are a very tough and strong team.
For having good team Tottenham management needs to spend huge funds which never happen in last few years, so I am not expecting anything special from this club in next season even they are now all set for having spot into Champions League.

Son Heung-min is also set to left club after ten years which is surely going to be setback for them even new coach Thomas Frank is now working on his squad which will help him for having good performance in coming season Son was phenomenal for Spurs now Al Qadisiya and Fenerbahçe looking for him but nothing is clear about his future. Daniel Levy is also happy after Son is going to be out of Tottenham because he is going to accept any offer above £25m while new coach already exclude him from his future squad after having this update.

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June 20, 2025, 02:30:35 PM
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It is actually not certain yet whether Osimhen will sign for Manchester United. The Red Devils are for sure in the race but they aren't alone in it.  Tongue

Al-Hilal is still after him, there are other unnamed Premier League teams are also and Juventus is said to be monitoring his situation too. But honestly it would really be a great signing for Manchester United.

Neither Hojlund nor Zirkzee can get near him in performance...
MU is not even serious in chasing a new striker. They linked to the so many strikers, but not even official bid came from them. They seem so desperate to buy a new striker because of all of their target have expensive price.
Nothing can be expected from manchester United as long as they have not yet get rid of their garbage strikers.

Signing Osimhan may also become their cheapest solution instead of signing Ekitike, Sesko or Gyokeres. It's because Osimhen has 75 million clause while the rest are in 85 m - 100 m range.
I hope them to decide on which striker they will sign asap.

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June 20, 2025, 02:32:31 PM
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Both those players need to be sold. They're not good enough. They're players that will do well in smaller teams, but in a team like United, they won't be able to succeed. I wonder why United even signed them in the first place. They didn't prove themselves to be players who are up to the standard of United. 

Since the signing of both players, I have always criticized the both of them for not playing well and meeting up to expectations until I decided to check their stats in their previous clubs before joining Manchester united. Like, who on earth scouted the both of them?, how did united manage to pay so much despite them not having top records?. That is literally where the whole problem started from. The club decided to sign players with mid-stats for a huge price, and expected them to play like Haaland or Harry Kane. It doesn't work that way.

Big clubs spending heavy amount on players that don't have good records is a very big risk. You don't sign these players and expect them to do what they've never done before. I guess this is where some of them ends up playing under pressure. Before signing a player, he must have being able to maintain same performance or even improve in 2-3 seasons back to back. That was the case of Haaland, and that will be the case of Gyokeres, if any club decides to sign him.

Just to add, I also checked Jackson's stat at Villarreal, which is enough reason to ask why he was signed as a striker.

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Y'all are too quick to shit on Manchester United players but damn right,  Joshua Zirkzee has proved the fans wrong. He has a lot to add to this Manchester united side and he is very good with link up plays with his wingers and also drops deep when necessary. I can't say the same thing for Rasmus Hojlund. As much as he wants to stay and fight for his place, I don't want to conclude how things will end for him.

You don't see me shit on Manchester United players that are actually trying like Bruno Fenandes, Amad, Martinez. These are players who have shown the fans that they're ready to play for the club. They have worked hard and shown it on the pitch. I shit on the players that are not good enough, especially the ones that had huge expectations ut couldn't deliver. Most of the time, I don't even blame the players; I blame the club that hired them without seeing that these players are not what you expect them to be.
Now they've signed Cuhna. I don't think he is all that, but at United he will be expected to play like prime Van Persie, but he's not that and that is the problem.

Erik ten Hag wanted Harry Kane but the management brought in Rasmus Hojlund.

When Manchester United did not sign Harry Kane, I knew they were not a serious club. It would have been easier for Kane to move to an English team than to Germany. I expected the 2 Manchester clubs to fight for him, but they didn't. City got a world-class striker instead, and United spent over 70 million on Hojlund. That's the difference between the two clubs, and that's something I will always call out.


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Neither Hojlund nor Zirkzee can get near him in performance...
Both those players need to be sold. They're not good enough. They're players that will do well in smaller teams, but in a team like United, they won't be able to succeed. I wonder why United even signed them in the first place. They didn't prove themselves to be players who are up to the standard of United.
It's up to the manager to decide who stays or not, but I'd really like to see Zirkzee around. Dude is not bad at all. Towards the tail end of the season, he overturned his game and showed everyone a glimpse of his potential before he got injured. I believe he'll get better if given some time. As for Hojlund, he has spent two seasons at United with no meaningful impact. Maybe it's time to move on. A couple of Italian clubs are interested in him.

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Amorim has urged Manchester United's management to intensify the sale of its players which includes, Garnacho, Sancho, Anthony and Rashford. He already said he doesn't want the club to include these sets of players in their preseason tour. This only means that he wants them to be gone as soon as possible, the question now is, how many clubs will be willing to buy these players for the kind of price tag that's attached to them? Garnacho is lagged around £60M, how many European teams will be willing to pay such amount for him? Maybe he will head to Saudi Arabia if possible.

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Now Amorim has a really difficult job to do and he needs to do it carefully. Because there are so many players expected to leave this summer. And he will make a huge change in the squad I assume. I hope he makes his choices right unlike Erik ten Hag.  Roll Eyes

With Cunha done and Bryan Mbeumo most likely to join, we really need not pressure ourselves for Victor Osimhen considering he won't reduce his salary. If he wants to stay in Europe, these are the necessary sacrifice he's meant to make for himself. Mikel and Jay Jay Okocha must have told him. I don't see Manchester United signing Victor Osimhen,  they'd most likely get the deal done for Viktor Gyökeres.

Mbeumo would be RW. Cunha can play as CF or AM as well. I wonder what Amorim is planning about him.

If he wants to see him behind the CF then the Red Devils would continue to push for a striker. But as far as I know Gyökeres has already rejected to play for them.

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June 20, 2025, 07:28:22 PM
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Victor Osimhen is a very good player and right now his one of the best strikers in the world, but I don't think Manchester United will be good for him reason being that Manchester United are yet to discover what there real problem is and they are not really inform so for me victor osimhen going to Manchester United will not make any difference, but going to Liverpool will really help his career more and more because together they will win more trophy.
I really wanted Arsenal to buy victor osimhen because Arsenal needs someone who will be scoring a lot of goals for them and right now the player that can give them that is victor osimhen.
As usual the English Premier League club may have plenty of options but it appears that Victor Osimhen has become a transfer target for many clubs at the moment. I think this player may be struggling with great determination at the moment because he is doing everything he can to the best of his ability wherever he gets the opportunity. You have rightly stated that Arsenal Football Club needs a player who will score a lot of goals for them but this player may not be considered in the Gunners' alternative plans for this transfer target for upcoming season. I personally believe that if Manchester United want to improve in the coming season, they definitely need an overvalued goalscorer.

both manchester united and arsenal to face the next season both teams really need a more consistent goal scoring machine and Osimhen might be the answer. Man united has made a fairly in-depth approach to the nigerian player, but of course the offer given by arsenla is more tempting because in the next season arsenal plays in the UCL, while man united is not at all good in any european competition. But in terms of transfer value and salary maybe that's what man united will offer, because even though the team is experiencing a financial crisis, man united is known as a club that is quite reckless in bringing in players with a fairly large transfer value and a fairly high player salary.
You are right that both teams need a consistent goal scoring machine but right now it seems that there are strong calls for Man U's management to sell the player. Based on Manchester United's results this season, it seems they deserve this player as they are in dire need of improvement. I witnessed that the player received an unbeatable offer from Simone Inzaghi's Saudi team before the current FIFA Club World Cup. Perhaps he is still dreaming of Europe, which is why he still prefers English Premier League teams at the moment. We can see that he is probably already being followed by many clubs but at this moment, the former Napoli player's decision has become very valuable.

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There are two suitors for Osimhen from the Premier League, Liverpool and M.United.
It is known that M.United wants Osimhen more and they want to transfer him.
The difference between Viktor Gyokeres and Osimhen is that Osimhen has proven himself very well.
The only disadvantage of Osimhen is his salary. If Napoli and M.United agree on a transfer fee, Osimhen will want a lower salary because Osimhen's first aim is to play in the Premier League.

You are right. Victor Osimhen will surely want a lower salary if his deal to come to Manchester United is sealed. The player wants to play in the Premier League competition, and this will be a dream if any club Osimhen has proved how good he is at football, and that’s why big clubs in the Premier League want him. I feel like Manchester United are more interested in getting him than Liverpool because I have heard more rumours about Manchester United's interest in getting Osimhen than Liverpool's.

I hope Osimhen's management and Manchester United's agreement should be concluded in this transfer window. There is more to see from Osimhen; he is going to be a beast if he plays in the Premier League.
Osimhen will be a beast in the Premier League so I want to see Osimhen go to the Premier League and realize his full potential. It will be easier in Liverpool, they are already at the top of the league and that is why he will get used to it immediately and start scoring goals.

Manchester United will be more difficult, even if it is more difficult, if Osimhen carries Manchester United and does more individually, he will be able to change Manchester United's bad fate and this could be a good reward for Osimhen in this scenario.
From what am seeing, The premier League clubs are skeptical in going for Osimhen, I don't really know the reason why, if not, looking at the situation of Manchester united, trust Osimhen would do a wonderful work upfront for united. If it's the issue of wages, there is always a room for negotiation, after all Manchester united are paying for wages for Radford, Antony and Sancho without significant impact on the team.

Osimhen have turned down Saudi Arabia clubs that have consistently come for him, it simply shows that he still has interest in European football, I heard Galatasaray are also making waves to try and give him a permanent contract, which I think might likely happen but his relationship with Napoli has really shattered despite being his parent club.











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