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December 17, 2025, 04:28:57 PM
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Manchester United really have a too bad defense. I don't know how much longer I will continue saying this. I guess until Amorim brings better defenders to the team.  Tongue

The defense trio of the last match were too bad. Who is Heaven for example? I guess Amorim didn't have a better choice. But why doesn't de Ligt play for a few matches?

If they had a stronger defense they could have been in top 4 now.

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December 17, 2025, 04:46:00 PM
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When there is a game like United vs Bournemouth game, the fans of those teams may not be happy with the result but the reality is that we are seeing a very fun game for rest of the world, and I think it's quite good for them to get the results that they want, because they really do deserve it.

I think betting on these games would be very fun too, imagine if you had over/under on this game and you said over, it would be very fun to watch, it would be a good bet too. Nobody in their right mind would bet on 7.5 over on goals of course lol, but 3.5 over or maybe even 4.5 over could have been possible and would make it very fun for them. This is what I was expecting for this game, a lot of goals but not as much as eight.
A match that was beyond my expectations I thought the score for the Bournemouth vs Mancester United match would be under 4 but unexpectedly a flood of goals in the match 4-4. the supporters shouted every time to celebrate the goal. In the next match Manchester United should choose a score over. in my opinion is a good decision the last few Manchester United matches with big goals with a score above 3.5 there is no harm in guessing the over score for the Aston Villa vs Mancester United match this week.

No one could have imagined that both teams would score 8 goals in this match. Unfortunately, I couldn't watch the match live. However, I watched the highlights. Manchester united's attack played well in this match. But they couldn't win the match because of the mistakes of the defenders. Despite Bournemouth's  attack not being strong, they were able to score 4 goals against manchester united. But it is also true that Bournemouth's attacks were also very intense. Bournemouth's boys were only able to make  12 shots. Out of these, only 9 shots were on target. Although Manchester United's players were able t o attack a lot , they could not dominate the match.

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December 17, 2025, 04:49:55 PM
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No one could have imagined that both teams would score 8 goals in this match. Unfortunately, I couldn't watch the match live. However, I watched the highlights. Manchester united's attack played well in this match. But they couldn't win the match because of the mistakes of the defenders. Despite Bournemouth's  attack not being strong, they were able to score 4 goals against manchester united. But it is also true that Bournemouth's attacks were also very intense. Bournemouth's boys were only able to make  12 shots. Out of these, only 9 shots were on target. Although Manchester United's players were able t o attack a lot , they could not dominate the match.

I watched the second half of the match and I can tell you that those who didn't watch it like you missed out on a lot. If we had known there would be so many goals and that the lead would constantly change hands, I don't think any football fans would have missed this match. Both teams came close to winning the match. The goalkeepers' performance wasn't very good. There were problems in defense for both teams.

Manchester United missed the opportunity to move up to 5th place. They need to win their home games, otherwise they won't make much progress in the standings. For example, they have a tough away game against Aston Villa next week, getting points from that match will be much harder than this one.

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December 17, 2025, 05:18:53 PM
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I also thought Chelsea would be the main contender for the title when I saw their performance in the Club World Cup games that took place in the USA. I thought that with that good performance they would be consistent in the Premier League, but I see that the coach still hasn't managed to have a good, fixed starting eleven. He's constantly making changes to the team. The saddest thing is seeing that there are games where the team wins, but in the next game the coach changes the entire squad and formation, and then they lose. Honestly, I can't understand how the Chelsea coach's mind works.

I agree with your point. I've noticed this from Chelsea throughout the start of this season. Could this be due to too many players across all lines? Or does Maresca really want to give everyone confidence? I'd agree if he didn't change most of the lineup for each match, but what we're seeing is that most of the lineups are frequently changed.
To be clear, they're currently playing against Cardiff, and Maresca is fielding mostly second-string players. It's clearly a quarterfinal match, and they haven't scored a single goal yet.
Undermining the fact their performance was so amazing at the FIFA club world cup that is not a shocker to me because I have always known them to be a mysterious team that always did wonders when not expected so that winning didn't shake me, what actually surprised me is how they started this season they were all ready and appeared as some good title contenders to the extent I was even telling people Chelsea is a big threat in the English premier League, but to my greatest surprise all of a sudden they started acting strange that's when I knew they were off the race and all my attention is now focused on Arsenal but as it stands now even Arsenal is not also trustworthy, like this season is just so complicated I just believe the lucky team will win the trophy but not for Chelsea Anymore.

 
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December 17, 2025, 05:26:00 PM
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Manchester United really have a too bad defense. I don't know how much longer I will continue saying this. I guess until Amorim brings better defenders to the team.  Tongue

The defense trio of the last match were too bad. Who is Heaven for example? I guess Amorim didn't have a better choice. But why doesn't de Ligt play for a few matches?

If they had a stronger defense they could have been in top 4 now.
Manchester United's performance is good at the moment but they are drawing in some other matches due to which their performance and strength are going hand in hand. Manchester United's team drew in the match against Bournemouth while they should have won this match. Although they do not consider it their decision and work hard, these players can become worthy winners. They should have won with West Ham but they could not succeed. Although they have won against Wolves, they have lost their points in other matches, so I also feel a weakness in their performance. If they had won this match too, their position could have been established, but they are not able to improve themselves in it. If they try and improve their players, their struggle will improve.

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December 17, 2025, 05:31:10 PM
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When there is a game like United vs Bournemouth game, the fans of those teams may not be happy with the result but the reality is that we are seeing a very fun game for rest of the world, and I think it's quite good for them to get the results that they want, because they really do deserve it.

I think betting on these games would be very fun too, imagine if you had over/under on this game and you said over, it would be very fun to watch, it would be a good bet too. Nobody in their right mind would bet on 7.5 over on goals of course lol, but 3.5 over or maybe even 4.5 over could have been possible and would make it very fun for them. This is what I was expecting for this game, a lot of goals but not as much as eight.
A match that was beyond my expectations I thought the score for the Bournemouth vs Mancester United match would be under 4 but unexpectedly a flood of goals in the match 4-4. the supporters shouted every time to celebrate the goal. In the next match Manchester United should choose a score over. in my opinion is a good decision the last few Manchester United matches with big goals with a score above 3.5 there is no harm in guessing the over score for the Aston Villa vs Mancester United match this week.
My prediction for that game was btta and over 2.5 goals little did i know that both teams could score up to 8 goals and it would have even ended up as 9 goals if not for the lucky save of Manchester Uniteds goal keeper. The fact that Manchester United could let Bournemouth score the the third and fourth goal tells you how poor their defense has become. I also didn't expect such number of goals

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December 17, 2025, 05:36:03 PM
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There are four teams with only 2 points gap to Chelsea behind them, so if they fail in any game then Chelsea will drop a lot. Imagine all four wins their games and Chelsea loses, in that case they would drop from fourth place to eight place, may not be even in UEFA competitions in certain conditions. So it's clear that Chelsea needs to do better.

Garnacho is doing great, I did expected him to play great because 90% of the players that leave United end up playing better and Garnacho was decent even in United, so it's great to see him do better at Chelsea, but they can't rely on players to have individual talent goals every game, they need to build a better system that works every game, even if a few players look bad.



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Manchester United's performance is good at the moment but they are drawing in some other matches due to which their performance and strength are going hand in hand. Manchester United's team drew in the match against Bournemouth while they should have won this match. Although they do not consider it their decision and work hard, these players can become worthy winners. They should have won with West Ham but they could not succeed. Although they have won against Wolves, they have lost their points in other matches, so I also feel a weakness in their performance. If they had won this match too, their position could have been established, but they are not able to improve themselves in it. If they try and improve their players, their struggle will improve.
Good performance but not the result that's needed or the results that doesn't reflect that performance. They performed good against themselves teams that they should have won which means they still have a lot of problems. If you can't beat the small teams what happens against the big ones, another draw or loss! They need to do better because in most of these games, Manchester United has been in the advantage side and only needed to hold on until the final whistle but they still look for a way for their opponent to penetrate and equalise. With the number of 2 points Manchester United has dropped, if they did what was right, but now if I'm not mistaken Manchester United woulve be in the top 3 of the league, if not even second.

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Manchester United's performance is good at the moment but they are drawing in some other matches due to which their performance and strength are going hand in hand. Manchester United's team drew in the match against Bournemouth while they should have won this match. Although they do not consider it their decision and work hard, these players can become worthy winners. They should have won with West Ham but they could not succeed. Although they have won against Wolves, they have lost their points in other matches, so I also feel a weakness in their performance. If they had won this match too, their position could have been established, but they are not able to improve themselves in it. If they try and improve their players, their struggle will improve.
Good performance but not the result that's needed or the results that doesn't reflect that performance. They performed good against themselves teams that they should have won which means they still have a lot of problems. If you can't beat the small teams what happens against the big ones, another draw or loss! They need to do better because in most of these games, Manchester United has been in the advantage side and only needed to hold on until the final whistle but they still look for a way for their opponent to penetrate and equalise. With the number of 2 points Manchester United has dropped, if they did what was right, but now if I'm not mistaken Manchester United woulve be in the top 3 of the league, if not even second.
Yes, Manchester United's performance is not that bad because they are in third place in the table and they have 26 points and if you look at it, they will have to win one match to go to the top, although they could have gone to the top if they had won the match recently. Chelsea dominates the top spot and there is only a 2-point difference between the two. One mistake by Chelsea will be very beneficial for Crystal Palace and Manchester United. Obviously, there will be a lot of changes in the league right now and we will see many changes in each team and therefore, regardless of this time, we are seeing each team getting better at some point or the other. Sometimes they win against big teams, but it is difficult to draw. Manchester United will have to win in the next matches, which is giving them a chance to be at the top and become stronger.

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There are four teams with only 2 points gap to Chelsea behind them, so if they fail in any game then Chelsea will drop a lot. Imagine all four wins their games and Chelsea loses, in that case they would drop from fourth place to eight place, may not be even in UEFA competitions in certain conditions. So it's clear that Chelsea needs to do better.
Garnacho is doing great, I did expected him to play great because 90% of the players that leave United end up playing better and Garnacho was decent even in United, so it's great to see him do better at Chelsea, but they can't rely on players to have individual talent goals every game, they need to build a better system that works every game, even if a few players look bad.

As things stand they are still in the race for the top four. I could see they are ahead on points compared to Crystal Palace, Manchester United, Liverpool and even Sunderland. So saying they will be eliminated from European competition just for losing one match is quite illogical. In fact they could only be in trouble if the entire team fails to perform well

I agree with Garnachos comments. The young player is indeed playing exceptionally well and his two goals in the cup game were truly eye catching. However relying on one player every week would be foolish. The team needs proper management otherwise it is impossible to move forward with such inconsistency sometimes playing brilliantly and sometimes performing terribly

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December 17, 2025, 06:54:48 PM
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I do not know if Caicedo's absence from Chelsea team will affect Chelsea's performance, but Cole Palmer's absence from Chelsea team has already affected Chelsea's performance this season. Cole Palmer absence is part of the reason Chelsea is not consistent in winning their matches. Even if Chelsea has another player in Cole Palmer's position, will that player perform like Cole Palmer and win points for Chelsea the way Cole Palmer could have won for Chelsea? If Cole Palmer can recover on time, Chelsea can challenge for the title, but if Cole Palmer does not recover on time,  Chelsea can be a title contender.
This is the reason why having a big depth that has no proper players ruins a club. Chelsea has so many players and yet none of them are good enough to replace the big players when it matters. Like what's the point of having 30 players or more, when you fail to replace Palmer when needed?

Even in simple games like FIFA (ea26 now named) or football manager, you do not get just mediocre players and create a depth, I rather have 14-15 good players then have 30 bad ones. Chelsea is ruining their own squad this way.

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Manchester United really have a too bad defense. I don't know how much longer I will continue saying this. I guess until Amorim brings better defenders to the team.  Tongue

The defense trio of the last match were too bad. Who is Heaven for example? I guess Amorim didn't have a better choice. But why doesn't de Ligt play for a few matches?

If they had a stronger defense they could have been in top 4 now.
Manchester United's performance is good at the moment but they are drawing in some other matches due to which their performance and strength are going hand in hand. Manchester United's team drew in the match against Bournemouth while they should have won this match. Although they do not consider it their decision and work hard, these players can become worthy winners. They should have won with West Ham but they could not succeed. Although they have won against Wolves, they have lost their points in other matches, so I also feel a weakness in their performance. If they had won this match too, their position could have been established, but they are not able to improve themselves in it. If they try and improve their players, their struggle will improve.
Good? I don't really think so, they are not really impressive at the moment. Talking about how they keep conceding in almost every game they play is a major problem. Their match against Bournemouth would have had a good outcome if they have a food defense but right bow they seem to be lacking in that area. They really need to work on their defense because that is their major issue right now

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December 17, 2025, 08:15:04 PM
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There are four teams with only 2 points gap to Chelsea behind them, so if they fail in any game then Chelsea will drop a lot. Imagine all four wins their games and Chelsea loses, in that case they would drop from fourth place to eight place, may not be even in UEFA competitions in certain conditions. So it's clear that Chelsea needs to do better.
Chelsea’s position in the EPL table is not stable just as other teams, but have just two points difference ahead of the four teams behind them is very risky because if they lose a single match, they can drop behind Sunderland which is the 9th position of the Premier League table and they have tough matches in their next coming games.
If Chelsea can defeat Aston Villa and Newcastle United, they will have more confidence in the title race again because these teams are teams that are very difficult to defeat by big teams, so Chelsea needs to put more effort in their next coming games.

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Garnacho is doing great, I did expected him to play great because 90% of the players that leave United end up playing better and Garnacho was decent even in United, so it's great to see him do better at Chelsea, but they can't rely on players to have individual talent goals every game, they need to build a better system that works every game, even if a few players look bad.
He is trying because the competition in his position, but he need to put in more effort because the only advantage he have over them is the experience he has in the premier league, so I am expecting him to do better because his games is now becoming  calm and matured.

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December 17, 2025, 08:25:41 PM
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Manchester United really have a too bad defense. I don't know how much longer I will continue saying this. I guess until Amorim brings better defenders to the team.  Tongue

The defense trio of the last match were too bad. Who is Heaven for example? I guess Amorim didn't have a better choice. But why doesn't de Ligt play for a few matches?

If they had a stronger defense they could have been in top 4 now.
Manchester United has a good number of good players but they are lacking in the positions that matter. With the kind of squad that Manchester United has, and with the limited number of matches they have to play every week, Manchester United is supposed to be a strong contender of the English Premier League title this season.

You are complaining about Manchester United defense, have you considered have vulnerable Manchester United will be in the absence of Ahmad and Mbeumo? Manchester United need technical fixes that will recognise Dorgu as an attacker and not a defender. Amorim should just stop being rigid.

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December 17, 2025, 11:59:39 PM
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In this match against Cardiff City, Garnacho and Pedro Neto were actually positioned as substitutes. However, both managed to score goals when they came on in the second half, and the score ended 1-3 in Chelsea's favor.

Maresca just decided to rotate the starting lineup which was quite easy to understand. They have had a really tight schedule recently and this was an opportunity to rest his main players.

It is nice to see Garnacho scoring 2 goals. Because he hasn't been able to meet the expectations for a long time despite being given chances. He is making people excited with his playing style but the finishing could be way better than this actually.
And Maresca has managed to do so optimally. Although the competition ahead will be increasingly fierce and difficult, they must maintain this consistency optimally so that Maresca can effectively address any inconsistencies they may encounter. This won't be easy, of course, Chelsea moreover in the Premier League

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December 18, 2025, 03:20:33 AM
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Chelsea cant compete at high level, is sad but true they are facing the exact same problems from last season, i really thinked in this one they can be a contender but after seeing how much they suffer the Caicedo and Palmer injuries i can affirm they are not longer a real contender in this year.

Maresca cant find the proper balance in the team.
I also thought Chelsea would be the main contender for the title when I saw their performance in the Club World Cup games that took place in the USA. I thought that with that good performance they would be consistent in the Premier League, but I see that the coach still hasn't managed to have a good, fixed starting eleven. He's constantly making changes to the team. The saddest thing is seeing that there are games where the team wins, but in the next game the coach changes the entire squad and formation, and then they lose. Honestly, I can't understand how the Chelsea coach's mind works.
I think too many people overestimated Chelsea, especially because of what happened at the Club World Cup. Don't get me wrong, they are a very good team but they had an easier season compared to their opponents because they played in Conference League with a Champions League squad, so they were able to do a lot of rotation and the players were not as tired as the ones from the other teams.

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December 18, 2025, 04:07:41 AM
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Manchester United really have a too bad defense. I don't know how much longer I will continue saying this. I guess until Amorim brings better defenders to the team.  Tongue

The defense trio of the last match were too bad. Who is Heaven for example? I guess Amorim didn't have a better choice. But why doesn't de Ligt play for a few matches?

If they had a stronger defense they could have been in top 4 now.

Although Manchester United's performance has not improved much, their finishing line is another good one. Their defense line is very weak. Ruben Amorim has not changed his plan yet and has not taken any steps to strengthen his defense line. If Man United can strengthen their defense, then they can definitely take a place in the four positions of the point table. If they want to maintain their position this season and go to a higher position, they must still recruit good players in their defense line. If they cannot strengthen the defense line, then they will never be able to improve, that's why they have to take good steps right now.

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December 18, 2025, 05:22:23 AM
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Among all of the current promotion team i think Sunderland is the best because until week 16 Sunderland can reach to top 10 and one of their important result is won from Newcastle on Tyne-Wear derby that finally since 2016 the fans will watching this derby again in premier league and Sunderland have started it with very well because won from Newcastle but their consistency will be tested for upcoming games because Sunderland will lost some important players to defend their national team at African cup but i am quite confident that Sunderland can reach their target to avoiding relegation zone or staying at premier league

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December 18, 2025, 06:22:57 AM
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The final score was 4-4.

In this match, Manchester United's attack was indeed very good, but in terms of effectiveness, it was quite equal to Bournemouth's, with the same number of shots on target.

Man United did score four goals, but on the other hand, they also conceded four. Yes, this means their defense was that bad this time. Even though the front line played very well, their defense was so poor that they conceded four goals to Bournemouth. This is another homework for Amorim.


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The game was quite fascinating because of the numbers of goals scored, because we the neutral fan just want to see goals, and that was the goal feast we got in the game, but I was really disappointed in Manchester United for throwing away the three point at the closing stages of the match when they were in a winning position, because Ruben amorin should have brought in more defenders to defend and hold unto their lead till the final whistle, but he fails to do that, which was one of the reason they only went home with a point, instead of the whole three point, but if Manchester United really wants to qualify for a place in the uefa champions League next season, they needs to start winning games like this that they are not in their best, that's how a team with winning mentality are made., because you can't be at your best all the time, but if they can start winning when they are not at their best, it's going to help them a lot in improving their standing in the league table.

Game was great. If one side had won this match, i would be upset actually. Because both of them played very good. I watched all 90 minutes and the ball barely stopped for even a minute. There were 24 shots in the first half alone. By the end of the match, the total number of shots was close to 40. In extra time Manchewster United goalkeeper made incredible saves and earned his team that one point.
The game was great, but if Manchester United had defended their 4-3 lead and won Bournemouth, the game would have been greater. I was upset when the game ended 4-4 because i wanted Manchester United to beat Bournemouth. I only watched the first 45 minutes, and Manchester United was a little bit better than Bournemouth, but i stopped watching Manchester United vs Bournemouth game when Bournemouth scored their second goal in second half. Bournemouth had two opportunities to beat Manchester United, but Manchester United were lucky their goalkeeper stopped Bournemouth from winning them.
I was actually against Ramos coming to Manchester United because of his age and his red card record, but after this match against Bournemouth I'm reconsidering the idea of him coming, this is absolutely ridiculous how can Bournemouth that has not scored four goals since the beginning of this season score Manchester United for goals in a match that is a very good example of bad defense, they should go for Ramos who knows he might give that same vibe of Silver at Chelsea, and again just imagine Ramos, Martinez and Delight at that back line it is actually gonna make sense anyways.

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