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November 26, 2023, 04:43:28 PM
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Following the BurningManGarage thread, and some others events I started having questions on what people see as safe or as dangerous at first glance, so I have one question for both hobby miners and just board lurkers, rate the following setup while also keep in mind that just because things are ugly it doesn't mean bad, and further disclaimer, no, not my work! I just grabbed a picture from a project online, if you're curious google lenses will reveal the source in a second, but I avoid naming it because it might lead to a biased opinion.

So , from 1 being it's already a miracle it hasn't killed someone to 10 being as secure as ASML EUV factory or something like that, rate it!

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November 26, 2023, 05:07:08 PM
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I will wait a bit to rate it.

A clue it is certainly not a ten rating as it is not perfectly safe.

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So , from 1 being it's already a miracle it hasn't killed someone to 10 being as secure as ASML EUV factory or something like that, rate it!
I'll rate it at 1, but it deserves less...

  • On the second setup, it appears that they didn't even bother to completely remove the plastic wrap on a few of them!
  • Wooden rack and walls!
  • Awful cable management that increases the chances of something going wrong if there happens to be some sparks!
  • It's not clear if the second setup has carpet flooring or not, so that could be another negative point.

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November 26, 2023, 11:00:02 PM
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So , from 1 being it's already a miracle it hasn't killed someone to 10 being as secure as ASML EUV factory or something like that, rate it!
I'll rate it at 1, but it deserves less...

  • On the second setup, it appears that they didn't even bother to completely remove the plastic wrap on a few of them!
  • Wooden rack and walls!
  • Awful cable management that increases the chances of something going wrong if there happens to be some sparks!
  • It's not clear if the second setup has carpet flooring or not, so that could be another negative point.

the top one is really bad wires are terrible and lots of wood.

the bottom one wires are better but lots of wood.


so a 2 for the top maybe worse
and a three for the bottom maybe worse.

they both could be 1 ones.
the circuit boxes could be really fucked up.

It is hard to say they are a one as the circuit boxes are not viewable.


I saw a 200 amp circuit box feed with 8 gauge wires  that means fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥 .

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November 27, 2023, 10:38:13 AM
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i would rate it 3

* First of all its very good that u have take the step to own those mining
* They are not order  and planed very well ( i do get u thats how i keep mine long time ago


I would suggest you to build a Box with  2 Fans   1 down 1 up
So u reduce the noise and also Cool them enough and they last longer
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November 27, 2023, 02:33:00 PM
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What the hell is this

Too much wood, too much dust, and I wonder how they manage/control the airflow

No cable management at all, what a horror! Special mention to:


An installation small like that shouldn't be difficult to organise properly. I'll never understand people who don't respect their equipment, their investment and their safety...

I agree with phil, the first one looks more neglected than the second one, but both are globaly terrible
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the wooden shelving is not good, there are the Amazon Basics iron shelves which are very good and cost little, being grid-like they can also help for better cable management.
A PDU might help.

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the wooden shelving is not good, there are the Amazon Basics iron shelves which are very good and cost little, being grid-like they can also help for better cable management.
A PDU might help.

yeah those chrome plated shelves are very fire resistant and some cable ties.


https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Adjustable-Shelving-Organizer/dp/B01M0A4B9M/ref=sr_1_1_ffob_sspa?

these shelves are 71

https://www.amazon.com/BALABALA-Reusable-Fastening-Microfiber-Electronics/dp/B082HKBDS8/ref=sr_1_3?


ties are cheap 6 bucks


cooling was hard to see
filtering was hard to see
circuit box and main power Ines were hard to see

so since I could not figure them out I was nice enough with 2 and 3

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I will rate it 1 and even less if that's possible. This is one of the worst mining setups and the one who made is just want to mine with no safety measures or any design sense. The setup is dirty and it can cause problems for the one who's having this setup. I think that guy just started mining and wanted to have as much profits as possible with that setup as that setup isn't professional by any means. I can't see any good cooling or ventilation measures in this setup, and overall it's just a disaster.

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I would suggest you to build

Not mine as mentioned two times in the post!

As others have said wood in that just made me anxious, having lived half my life in a farm and seen enough fires I'm a concrete metal addict when it comes to these kind of things.

yeah those chrome plated shelves are very fire resistant and some cable ties.

At least some cheap zip ties if not better, a cheap metal cabinet salvaged from somewhere as there are not that many gears, I know some things cost money but once you already spent on gear that much what's a few extra $ so you don't lose it all.
To be honest I don't even want to know how the main power line and braker panel look , probably it would give me nightmares.

That said I mentioned I didn't want to post directly the source of this, but here its is TrojanMining
I know, it's Nigeria, a poor country, you don't have resources, every penny counts and every penny saved means one extra meal but the same time I can't accept the risk of losing all that just for a bit extra money

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I can't see any good cooling or ventilation measures in this setup, and overall it's just a disaster.

I actually think that's what the plastic covers, the picture is pretty bad but I think that the asics are actually fixed in that wooden panel and a bit of them goes through to whatever is behind that panel


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That said I mentioned I didn't want to post directly the source of this, but here its is TrojanMining
I know, it's Nigeria, a poor country, you don't have resources, every penny counts and every penny saved means one extra meal but the same time I can't accept the risk of losing all that just for a bit extra money


ok you are in nigeria and it is a poor country, but if you have 10k dollars to spend on asics spend another 2/300$ to keep a house from burning down I think they should have them.

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Definitely interested also in the opinions of complete newbies on this.
It's funny, I see a lot of Russian here. There are many such benches in Russia and the walls are decorated with wooden panels, which were previously used to make cabinet furniture in the Soviet Union. Russian rustic style.
If this catches fire, the tree will only make the fire worse.
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the wooden shelving is not good

Well, this is only a precaution post-catastrophe , the materials around will only dictate how large the fire is going to be, but using wood shelves in it self is not a reason for starting fire.

I have build, managed various sizes of mining farms, from 2 small D3s running in the next room all the way to over 10ph of S9s and MicroBT, and I can tell you for sure that the main cause for 99% is electric based.

1- Bad sizing of anything electric (easy to check and fix)
2- loose contact (the most common and is very tricky to spot)

Those 6pin connectors or the C13/C19 or anything that "clicks tight" cause most of the fireworks I saw, people keep plugging and unpluging those cords/pins not realizing that everytime you do so you affect the ability of the connections to click tight into one another, and whenever there is a loose connection -- fire is invited to the house.

I always advice people to either use an MCB to directly shut the power or use a PDU that comes with breakers so you do not have to unplug the power cords, if you can't lift the whole PSU by just lifting the cable then it is not tight, i see power cords that would fall if you touch them by accident, those are a recipe for disaster.

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November 29, 2023, 06:09:27 PM
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The farm is full of woods and that's not good, those Asic miners are too close to each other and the heat will be crazy, why not buy shelves made with iron or make one yourself? It's not very hard.

Wall sockets can behave like something possessed at times, I remember nearly burning down my house when I was mining years back, I got lucky to come around at the time, if not it will be too late already, the wall socket burnt up and start a fire, which could have done some damages.

How are they cooling the farm? It look more like a local made mining farm, but they can improve the wiring and also the cooling system, I rate this farm a 3 out of 10, it's too rough and ugly.

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November 29, 2023, 07:28:06 PM
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miners are too close to each

This is not an issue, in fact, if you check many miners have a rail on the sides so you can attach them to each other, the only miner that is designed to dissipate some heat from the body/chassis  is whatsminer, those need a bit of spacing, the rest can be placed next to one another with zero spacing.

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November 30, 2023, 03:16:28 PM
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the wooden shelving is not good

Well, this is only a precaution post-catastrophe , the materials around will only dictate how large the fire is going to be, but using wood shelves in it self is not a reason for starting fire.

I only use wood for video card mining rigs, but I use metal for all the shelves. ASICS are very heavy, and if the weight is not calculated, the wooden structure can cause a fire. I saw many different home and garage mining rigs, and unfortunately, everywhere there was a mess with wires.
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