Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Mayor of ogba]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

buying a coin in dip is quit safer than buying it when it is already high at price, but most of the buyer only buy coins when it is already on top because they can't control thier emotions, and that is the big problem not only today but also from the past people is greedy and they cannot control thier emotions and that make them loss.

Since we are talking about bitcoin investment, I want you to understand that there's no right time to invest in bitcoin. If you are waiting to buy bitcoin in a dip, you are wasting your time, and you may possibly miss out on accumulating a reasonable amount of bitcoin since no man or woman on planet earth can actually predict when a dip will happen. Instead of waiting for a dip, you can start accumulating bitcoin with the DCA strategy when you money is readily available because the DCA strategy will allow you to even accumulate bitcoin in the bullish trend and the bearish trend, and it will also control your emotions.

I still doubt that those who really want to invest in Bitcoin are actually waiting for the price of Bitcoin to drop. Maybe this trend exists among people who don't know that small fractions of Bitcoin can be purchased. A Bitcoin investor never worries about the price of Bitcoin falling, He always has a thought about how he can increase his income, which he will use to accumulate more Bitcoins, that is buy Bitcoins. He even has a tendency to wonder how he will be able to grow his Bitcoin investment. For example people who want to trade may often hear that it is better to buy Bitcoin at a low price and they think that is reasonable. In fact if you ask a real investor, they will never say, Buy Bitcoin tomorrow or Buy Bitcoin the next day. Even real investors would never mention that it is better to wait for the price of Bitcoin to drop.

There are some people who think differently, there are Bitcoin investors who buy Bitcoin only when there's a dip no matter how small or little the dip is they believe is a better way to accumulate and hold Bitcoin for long term, we have a lot of Bitcoin strategy and to be honest there are people who won't be comfortable using the DCA strategy and is not in our power to decide for them the strategy they should use, however what we can do is discuss the different advantage and disadvantage of Bitcoin strategies and an investor who wants to grow will find a more better option, when I started Bitcoin investment i was accumulating only during the dip but when I came into this forum I discovered other strategy and that was how I started using DCA strategy because it was a better strategy, using the DCA strategy will still make you benefit from any dip especially an investor that has backup funds, waiting for a dip to come before you buy Bitcoin will delay your accumulation journey, if you are always waiting for a dip before you can start accumulating then years will pass and you have not Accumulated anything meaningful.

That's their own perspective concerning owning Bitcoin anyways but it doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do. Well, anyone can choose to follow that process if they wish but I won't advise people on that since there's chances of them missing out on owning Bitcoin at a more cheaper rate while waiting to buy it more cheaper, buying during the dip is an opportunity to buy bitcoin cheaper, that's quite right but an investor don't need to wait for the market to dip before they start investing on Bitcoin, they can buy at anytime, do the DCA and still seize the opportunity of buying cheaper when a dip occurs, this particular point of discussion have been treated repeatedly and I keep wondering why people keep bringing it up instead of learning from previous discussions about it, one of the best way of accumulation is doing the DCA cause it gives investor the opportunity of buying with any amount suitable for them to keep investing consistently and it's much more preferable than waiting for the price to dip before buying Bitcoin.

I agree with you here. Buying on dips does not hinder any strategy that an investor uses to accumulate. No investor can ever get the right time to buy at the lowest that is why it is likely an error when an investor chooses to time the in the motive of buying the dip. Clinging to a particular strategy while preparing for any opportunity that may come with the feeling it is a dip. The investor can buy more as long as he has extra funds and it doesn't affects his other investment plans.

I remember sharing my personal experience sometime ago here on this matter. TBH i bough at 64k and saw the price went down to 60k the next day by then it was all about buying the dip. I though that 64k was a dip not knowing it will even go down more. You see, we can never get the accurate time for a dip, we can buy thinking its a dip while we watch the price of Bitcoin sink more.

Yes, you can adopt the buying the dip strategy when you are accumulating bitcoin with other strategies, and it wouldn't stop you from accumulating bitcoin anytime your money is readily available to accumulate bitcoin. During your accumulation stage, a dip happens, and you figure out that if you make use of the opportunity and buy the dip, it wouldn't stop you from sorting out your daily expenses. You can go ahead and buy the dip because it will allow you to accumulate a lot of bitcoin at a low price and also give you the chance to increase the size of your bitcoin portfolio. What makes buying the dip wrong is when you are not financially stable and you allow yourself to be carried away by it in such a way that you keep buying the dip and end up struggling to solve your daily expenses, which might force you to get off the game.

[Stablexcoin]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

This is mere speculation, there is no certainty that Bitcoin will follow this pattern you have just mentioned. Previous events dont guarantee what will happen in the future. We may tend to see the Bull run earlier than when you speculated or later, it may not even be this year but am pretty optimistic about breaking a new ATH this year. As we hope for the best, we should keep on stacking more Bitcoin. It is better to have more Bitcoin while expecting the bull run that to have little in our portfolio and still be expecting the bull run.

[Ricardo11]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

This is mere speculation, there is no certainty that Bitcoin will follow this pattern you have just mentioned. Previous events dont guarantee what will happen in the future. We may tend to see the Bull run earlier than when you speculated or later, it may not even be this year but am pretty optimistic about breaking a new ATH this year. As we hope for the best, we should keep on stacking more Bitcoin. It is better to have more Bitcoin while expecting the bull run that to have little in our portfolio and still be expecting the bull run.

Bitcoin will be valuable, history has proven that Bitcoin is valuable in the long run. So Bitcoin will be valuable in the future as well. No one knows when the market will turn around, Bitcoin can increase at any time, that is why you should not wait for investment, whenever there is enough money for investment, you should invest. No matter what, you have to deposit Bitcoin, the price will definitely increase at some point, but if you do not create an adequate portfolio, then you will not make any profit even if the price increases. So keep holding, if you hold for the long term, you will get the opportunity to profit more than you expected.

[Princess Leah]

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I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

It's either people learn to do things the right way or they'll be forced to learn the hard way, Bitcoin has proven to be a digital asset that should he invest on for a longer period of time, yet there are people who claim to be calculated risk takers that choose to go about it the other way by trading with it, there's no two ways about it, it's either they buy and hold Bitcoin for a longer period to gain more of it in the future or risk losing the little they've tried to achieve through trading Bitcoin.

 You're right, anyone who's been into Bitcoin for a very long time should've had enough experience to know that trading Bitcoin instead of holding it is a very silly step, the person should've already know when it's the right time to sell some portions of the Bitcoin they're holding, maybe they weren't very serious in accumulating back then and that's why they're hoping for a dip to gather more at this point and when it doesn't go as expected they'll go into other means of accumulation other than the normal buying and holding process.

 People that are impatient to invest on Bitcoin are mostly the one who priotise shitcoins more, anyways I've seen a few people get lucky out of buying shitcoins but shut luck doesn't occur always moreover Bitcoin holders have a better chance of success than those who follow the path of shitcoins, you don't need luck to succeed through Bitcoin but patience.

[Mayor of ogba]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You are correct that bitcoin has been hovering around 90k plus for a long time now, but you are sounding like now is the perfect time to buy bitcoin, and if people miss the opportunity to accumulate bitcoin now, they won't see bitcoin at this price again, and they will buy bitcoin at a very high price, which I think will likely mislead low coiner or newbies into accumulating bitcoin in such a way that they will struggle to solve their daily expenses because they will believe if they don't accumulate bitcoin aggressively now, it will be too expensive for them to accumulate later.

[ultrloa]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You are correct that bitcoin has been hovering around 90k plus for a long time now, but you are sounding like now is the perfect time to buy bitcoin, and if people miss the opportunity to accumulate bitcoin now, they won't see bitcoin at this price again, and they will buy bitcoin at a very high price, which I think will likely mislead low coiner or newbies into accumulating bitcoin in such a way that they will struggle to solve their daily expenses because they will believe if they don't accumulate bitcoin aggressively now, it will be too expensive for them to accumulate later.

Its like giving people  a FOMO vibes and that might give people some problem especially they are unstable and easily to get panic when there's more decline will come. That's why its better not to expect something with the dump and people better focus on accumulating Bitcoin at whatever price they see on the market.

I don't like to give some vibes like that knowing people's usually might think that they can earn fast profit if Bitcoin pump since its common for them to believe that Bitcoin is all about buy at low price then sell it when price goes high. This is the reason I urge people to learn about long term holding investment on Bitcoin and don't pay much attention on pumps and dumps especially those fuds spreading on internet.

[Umulala-alala]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

This is mere speculation, there is no certainty that Bitcoin will follow this pattern you have just mentioned. Previous events dont guarantee what will happen in the future. We may tend to see the Bull run earlier than when you speculated or later, it may not even be this year but am pretty optimistic about breaking a new ATH this year. As we hope for the best, we should keep on stacking more Bitcoin. It is better to have more Bitcoin while expecting the bull run that to have little in our portfolio and still be expecting the bull run.

Bitcoin will be valuable, history has proven that Bitcoin is valuable in the long run. So Bitcoin will be valuable in the future as well. No one knows when the market will turn around, Bitcoin can increase at any time, that is why you should not wait for investment, whenever there is enough money for investment, you should invest. No matter what, you have to deposit Bitcoin, the price will definitely increase at some point, but if you do not create an adequate portfolio, then you will not make any profit even if the price increases. So keep holding, if you hold for the long term, you will get the opportunity to profit more than you expected.

It's not compulsory that one must have enough money before you can start up your bitcoin investment it doesn't take you to break a bank before going into bitcoin whereas you can buy little fraction start with the little you have, you can start buying using the dollar cost averaging method where you can buy as little as you can either by every weeks or every months and gradually increase your buying as you gradually increase your discretion fund too instead of waiting to have enough money before starting up your bitcoin investment.

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I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

It's either people learn to do things the right way or they'll be forced to learn the hard way, Bitcoin has proven to be a digital asset that should he invest on for a longer period of time, yet there are people who claim to be calculated risk takers that choose to go about it the other way by trading with it, there's no two ways about it, it's either they buy and hold Bitcoin for a longer period to gain more of it in the future or risk losing the little they've tried to achieve through trading Bitcoin.

 You're right, anyone who's been into Bitcoin for a very long time should've had enough experience to know that trading Bitcoin instead of holding it is a very silly step, the person should've already know when it's the right time to sell some portions of the Bitcoin they're holding, maybe they weren't very serious in accumulating back then and that's why they're hoping for a dip to gather more at this point and when it doesn't go as expected they'll go into other means of accumulation other than the normal buying and holding process.

 People that are impatient to invest on Bitcoin are mostly the one who priotise shitcoins more, anyways I've seen a few people get lucky out of buying shitcoins but shut luck doesn't occur always moreover Bitcoin holders have a better chance of success than those who follow the path of shitcoins, you don't need luck to succeed through Bitcoin but patience.

I still wonder why people will want or be trying to trade with great asset such as bitcoin, very crazy man very crazy.

[terrific]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

And even with the Bybit news hacking incident, it stayed on top of $90k so I understand what you're saying why you're loving this dip.
That's why I am also loving it because it favors more the long term holders. While the panicking holders think that this is the end of the bull run.
It is not and there is more to go and this gives more confidence to how this market is becoming stronger and more stable.
Even with these bad incidents that did came to the market. We're all survivors on these incidents and hoping for those months you've mentioned, there's more to this.

[Stormisover]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

This is mere speculation, there is no certainty that Bitcoin will follow this pattern you have just mentioned. Previous events dont guarantee what will happen in the future. We may tend to see the Bull run earlier than when you speculated or later, it may not even be this year but am pretty optimistic about breaking a new ATH this year. As we hope for the best, we should keep on stacking more Bitcoin. It is better to have more Bitcoin while expecting the bull run that to have little in our portfolio and still be expecting the bull run.

Bitcoin will be valuable, history has proven that Bitcoin is valuable in the long run. So Bitcoin will be valuable in the future as well. No one knows when the market will turn around, Bitcoin can increase at any time, that is why you should not wait for investment, whenever there is enough money for investment, you should invest. No matter what, you have to deposit Bitcoin, the price will definitely increase at some point, but if you do not create an adequate portfolio, then you will not make any profit even if the price increases. So keep holding, if you hold for the long term, you will get the opportunity to profit more than you expected.

Just a reminder, Bitcoin is already a valuable and valued digital currency , that has given us the financial freedom of transferring money to our loved ones as a means of exchange without the authority of the government, it is also a store of value where if invested for a long time it has the potential to appreciate it's value.
One don't really have to wait till they have enough money for investment as long as they have their discretionary income they can start without struggling to solve their basic needs.

[JayJuanGee]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You and I have been registered on the forum for a similar amount of time, so it seems that you should have had been able to accumulate enough coins during the past 11-ish years.

You may or may not be correct about the upcoming BTC price wave as you are describing, yet are you trying to trade bitcoin and/or to change your behaviors based on BTC price cycles?  
I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  
In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

Just like you have rightly put, it's not just about selling some of your bitcoin, the pain is in the buy back. This is one of the reasons why many loose all their bitcoin assets because they wouldn't like to loose all or part of their assets. Watching the chart 📉 is a very tedious work and no real investor has the luxury of time to watch the chart closely always. When you off your accumulation, all your efforts focus on seeing bitcoin fall below what you have sold yours and in most cases, it doesn't happen immediately or wouldn't happen which either makes you give up on investing or buys less than you've always had.

There may be some luck to buy back, yet many times traders end up being too smart for their own good and maybe they target a certain percentage drop that they want to see before they buy, and they may not even stagger their buy backs, but instead try to time their buy back for the whole part that they sold.  I suppose some of them will get smarter about their buy backs, and become less greedy, since so many proclaim that they are not trying to necessarily catch the maximum bottom, even if they may be putting a lot of efforts into trying to advantage as much as they can from any dip, which may well also help to work to their detriment... and we have already seen, and should have the disadvantages of not being in built into our costs, yet traders seem to discount bitcoin's paradigm shifting amazingness, which means that bitcoin is not a mature asset, and so it is going through relatively early years of exponential scurve adoption, which if the traders were to appreciate the magnitude of such facts, they should be more reluctant to try to trade bitcoin, but they cannot help themselves since even the responsible ones are degenerate gamblers on the deep inside.  kidding,  not kidding.. hahahahahaha

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I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

It's either people learn to do things the right way or they'll be forced to learn the hard way, Bitcoin has proven to be a digital asset that should he invest on for a longer period of time, yet there are people who claim to be calculated risk takers that choose to go about it the other way by trading with it, there's no two ways about it, it's either they buy and hold Bitcoin for a longer period to gain more of it in the future or risk losing the little they've tried to achieve through trading Bitcoin.

 You're right, anyone who's been into Bitcoin for a very long time should've had enough experience to know that trading Bitcoin instead of holding it is a very silly step, the person should've already know when it's the right time to sell some portions of the Bitcoin they're holding, maybe they weren't very serious in accumulating back then and that's why they're hoping for a dip to gather more at this point and when it doesn't go as expected they'll go into other means of accumulation other than the normal buying and holding process.

 People that are impatient to invest on Bitcoin are mostly the one who priotise shitcoins more, anyways I've seen a few people get lucky out of buying shitcoins but shut luck doesn't occur always moreover Bitcoin holders have a better chance of success than those who follow the path of shitcoins, you don't need luck to succeed through Bitcoin but patience.

I get the sense that wheelz1200 is talking about his excitements about bitcoin price dips because he has ended up failing and/or refusing to learn about bitcoin, and  to realize that fucking around with trading (gambling) and shitcoins is not a good way to build wealth (especially in bitcoin), so even if he had not learned his lessons about trading in the first cycle, he could have had gotten involved in DCAing into bitcoin and building his bitcoin investment starting in his second or third cycle.. since he is almost through 3 cycles and still seems to be fucking around with trying to trade.

Sure, guys can do whatever they like (and be responsible for the consequences), and some guys take longer to learn than others..... .

[Derekfunds]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

This is mere speculation, there is no certainty that Bitcoin will follow this pattern you have just mentioned. Previous events dont guarantee what will happen in the future. We may tend to see the Bull run earlier than when you speculated or later, it may not even be this year but am pretty optimistic about breaking a new ATH this year. As we hope for the best, we should keep on stacking more Bitcoin. It is better to have more Bitcoin while expecting the bull run that to have little in our portfolio and still be expecting the bull run.

Bitcoin will be valuable, history has proven that Bitcoin is valuable in the long run. So Bitcoin will be valuable in the future as well. No one knows when the market will turn around, Bitcoin can increase at any time, that is why you should not wait for investment, whenever there is enough money for investment, you should invest. No matter what, you have to deposit Bitcoin, the price will definitely increase at some point, but if you do not create an adequate portfolio, then you will not make any profit even if the price increases. So keep holding, if you hold for the long term, you will get the opportunity to profit more than you expected.

Just a reminder, Bitcoin is already a valuable and valued digital currency , that has given us the financial freedom of transferring money to our loved ones as a means of exchange without the authority of the government, it is also a store of value where if invested for a long time it has the potential to appreciate it's value.
One don't really have to wait till they have enough money for investment as long as they have their discretionary income they can start without struggling to solve their basic needs.

You are right but you should know that it is through that money or enough money ( source of income) your discretionary can be gotten from so if you don't have money how will you invest or have a discretionary? Though when you don't have enough money, your discretionary will also be small because our discretionary depends on our source of income, so when our money is not enough our investment will be growing gradually by gradually because of the income and discretionary but anyone who is determined to invest, how small you are investing should not be a factor or problem because it is not going to be constant, change will surely come one day and your rate of investment will change or increase.

[Dunamisx]

And even with the Bybit news hacking incident, it stayed on top of $90k

Such news like this on hack is not going to make a major shift on the market price, you can imagine that not all the Bybit exchange users got hacked, the exchange as well is still functioning and their site not down, it's not a major event to shook the crypto community, after all most of the whales we are having don't make use of a centralized exchange for their asset, so I don't expect much significant effects of this on the market price.

[Tonimez]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You and I have been registered on the forum for a similar amount of time, so it seems that you should have had been able to accumulate enough coins during the past 11-ish years.

You may or may not be correct about the upcoming BTC price wave as you are describing, yet are you trying to trade bitcoin and/or to change your behaviors based on BTC price cycles?  
I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  
In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

Just like you have rightly put, it's not just about selling some of your bitcoin, the pain is in the buy back. This is one of the reasons why many loose all their bitcoin assets because they wouldn't like to loose all or part of their assets. Watching the chart 📉 is a very tedious work and no real investor has the luxury of time to watch the chart closely always. When you off your accumulation, all your efforts focus on seeing bitcoin fall below what you have sold yours and in most cases, it doesn't happen immediately or wouldn't happen which either makes you give up on investing or buys less than you've always had.

There may be some luck to buy back, yet many times traders end up being too smart for their own good and maybe they target a certain percentage drop that they want to see before they buy, and they may not even stagger their buy backs, but instead try to time their buy back for the whole part that they sold.  I suppose some of them will get smarter about their buy backs, and become less greedy, since so many proclaim that they are not trying to necessarily catch the maximum bottom, even if they may be putting a lot of efforts into trying to advantage as much as they can from any dip, which may well also help to work to their detriment... and we have already seen, and should have the disadvantages of not being in built into our costs, yet traders seem to discount bitcoin's paradigm shifting amazingness, which means that bitcoin is not a mature asset, and so it is going through relatively early years of exponential scurve adoption, which if the traders were to appreciate the magnitude of such facts, they should be more reluctant to try to trade bitcoin, but they cannot help themselves since even the responsible ones are degenerate gamblers on the deep inside.  kidding,  not kidding
The chances of getting back that luck often turns a nightmare to traders. Admitting their mistakes is always difficult hence, they won't like to loose a dime while learning from their mistakes to start investing to a long time Hodl. The tension that comes with trading is not what any real investor would like to experience. Spending a whole night hoping for luck could be a stressful and sleep-taking task. I rather not accumulate at all than trade bitcoin. I decided to monitor the chart some days back and I realised that it takes only a gambler to trade.

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I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

It's either people learn to do things the right way or they'll be forced to learn the hard way, Bitcoin has proven to be a digital asset that should he invest on for a longer period of time, yet there are people who claim to be calculated risk takers that choose to go about it the other way by trading with it, there's no two ways about it, it's either they buy and hold Bitcoin for a longer period to gain more of it in the future or risk losing the little they've tried to achieve through trading Bitcoin.

 You're right, anyone who's been into Bitcoin for a very long time should've had enough experience to know that trading Bitcoin instead of holding it is a very silly step, the person should've already know when it's the right time to sell some portions of the Bitcoin they're holding, maybe they weren't very serious in accumulating back then and that's why they're hoping for a dip to gather more at this point and when it doesn't go as expected they'll go into other means of accumulation other than the normal buying and holding process.

 People that are impatient to invest on Bitcoin are mostly the one who priotise shitcoins more, anyways I've seen a few people get lucky out of buying shitcoins but shut luck doesn't occur always moreover Bitcoin holders have a better chance of success than those who follow the path of shitcoins, you don't need luck to succeed through Bitcoin but patience.

I get the sense that wheelz1200 is talking about his excitements about bitcoin price dips because he has ended up failing and/or refusing to learn about bitcoin, and  to realize that fucking around with trading (gambling) and shitcoins is not a good way to build wealth (especially in bitcoin), so even if he had not learned his lessons about trading in the first cycle, he could have had gotten involved in DCAing into bitcoin and building his bitcoin investment starting in his second or third cycle.. since he is almost through 3 cycles and still seems to be fucking around with trying to trade.

Sure, guys can do whatever they like (and be responsible for the consequences), and some guys take longer to learn than others..... .

It's better a person doesn't learn about bitcoin than learn from a Trader. Once a trader is always a trader. He must have tried before to HODL but couldn't since there's every sign that he got introduced by a trader.

[Dailyscript]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You and I have been registered on the forum for a similar amount of time, so it seems that you should have had been able to accumulate enough coins during the past 11-ish years.

You may or may not be correct about the upcoming BTC price wave as you are describing, yet are you trying to trade bitcoin and/or to change your behaviors based on BTC price cycles?  

I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

I agree with you. It is very easy for investors to sell after getting making some profit but where the problem starts is when they want to buy back it becomes almost impossible to buy at the price they have always wanted in mind. I think that is the most risky pattern of investment any investor would choose. Most of them never get to buy at the price they have in mind because by then they are unlucky the price of Bitcoin keeps increasing immediately they decided to sell their Bitcoin to buy back again.

[Rabata]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You and I have been registered on the forum for a similar amount of time, so it seems that you should have had been able to accumulate enough coins during the past 11-ish years.

You may or may not be correct about the upcoming BTC price wave as you are describing, yet are you trying to trade bitcoin and/or to change your behaviors based on BTC price cycles?  

I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

I agree with you. It is very easy for investors to sell after getting making some profit but where the problem starts is when they want to buy back it becomes almost impossible to buy at the price they have always wanted in mind. I think that is the most risky pattern of investment any investor would choose. Most of them never get to buy at the price they have in mind because by then they are unlucky the price of Bitcoin keeps increasing immediately they decided to sell their Bitcoin to buy back again.

I had such an experience when I started investing in Bitcoin. at one stage I thought I might be able to sell it for a little profit and accumulate more Bitcoin there. But when I started waiting for my set price to buy it again after selling Bitcoin, Bitcoin rose even more at that time. I was further behind than I had at that time, which made me realize later that it is possible to profit by holding Bitcoin rather than selling it. However, since I realized this, I started holding Bitcoin tightly, even if it was at a slightly higher price. If you collect Bitcoin regularly, the amount of holding will definitely increase after a certain period of time, through which we can definitely dream of becoming profitable. Although Bitcoin does not guarantee profit, those who continue to deposit regularly will definitely increase their chances of profit in the long run.

[Powerjumboo]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

The current price of Bitcoin may not be for everyone, but it is a very important time for investors who invest. Investors always want to buy at a low price and invest, maybe it is still a good time to invest because the market is in the current state, the market may not remain in this state for long, the Bitcoin market will definitely grow and exceed the highest height of all time.

[Popkon6]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You and I have been registered on the forum for a similar amount of time, so it seems that you should have had been able to accumulate enough coins during the past 11-ish years.

You may or may not be correct about the upcoming BTC price wave as you are describing, yet are you trying to trade bitcoin and/or to change your behaviors based on BTC price cycles?  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

Just like you have rightly put, it's not just about selling some of your bitcoin, the pain is in the buy back. This is one of the reasons why many loose all their bitcoin assets because they wouldn't like to loose all or part of their assets. Watching the chart 📉 is a very tedious work and no real investor has the luxury of time to watch the chart closely always. When you off your accumulation, all your efforts focus on seeing bitcoin fall below what you have sold yours and in most cases, it doesn't happen immediately or wouldn't happen which either makes you give up on investing or buys less than you've always had.

Of course, those who stop investing in Bitcoin and immediately decide to sell the accumulated Bitcoin, taking such a step is foolish. You should continue investing in Bitcoin, then you can reach the maximum limit with your Bitcoin holdings. That is why the DCA method is given the most importance, because when you start investing in Bitcoin with the DCA method, it creates an attraction for Bitcoin investment. And because of this attraction, it is possible to sustain it for a long time and plays the most important role, both the target and the investment method and plan are most needed, because if the investor forgets and greed arises, patience will help him to get rid of his greed.

[Stormisover]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

The current price of Bitcoin may not be for everyone, but it is a very important time for investors who invest. Investors always want to buy at a low price and invest, maybe it is still a good time to invest because the market is in the current state, the market may not remain in this state for long, the Bitcoin market will definitely grow and exceed the highest height of all time.

I don't agree with you on this,  an investor don't always want to buy at a low price and Invest, but rather they always want to increase the overall size of their asset by buying at any time they have their investment money ready whether the price of Bitcoin is low or high, the current price of Bitcoin is for everyone who is ready to buy and hold. It is more of a traders mindset to buy at low price in order to sell high and not an investor.

[JayJuanGee]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

You and I have been registered on the forum for a similar amount of time, so it seems that you should have had been able to accumulate enough coins during the past 11-ish years.

You may or may not be correct about the upcoming BTC price wave as you are describing, yet are you trying to trade bitcoin and/or to change your behaviors based on BTC price cycles?  
I am presuming that you have enough and/or more than enough BTC, but yeah there are guys who have been trading BTC for the past 10 years or more and have not accumulated hardly any BTC because they are too busy trying to trade it, which seems a bit silly to be trying to do with such a great asset like bitcoin.

I know that any of us who have been in bitcoin longer would likely have more options regarding how to manage our BTC stash based on having had already accumulated a decent stash of BTC, yet I personally presume that any selling of bitcoin would ONLY come from extra portions of the BTC stash without any expectation of being able to buy back cheaper, even though surely there do tend to be waves in the BTC price in which any of us who have extra BTC can choose to employ some kind of a selling of our BTC on the way up practices that may or may not end up with our being able to buy back BTC at cheaper prices.

I think that many times, many forum members have not yet reached a status of over-accumulation, so from my perspective it becomes much more difficult for those earlier accumulation folks to sell BTC on the way up.. especially if they might still be in their first cycle, in which the better practice may well be to just keep accumulating BTC rather than taking chances to sell and not be able to buy back as they had anticipated.  

In the end, every forum member is responsible for his own actions, including if he might be trying to trade the various price waves, and even long term veterans have had situations where they ended up selling way too much too soon and/or other kinds of trading mistakes....and surely other mistakes come from several of our colleagues in the forum getting involved in shitcoins, so then the amount of progress of the shitcoining members tends to be all over the place, and usually quite a bit lower than someone who had mostly stayed focused on bitcoin.

I agree with you. It is very easy for investors to sell after getting making some profit but where the problem starts is when they want to buy back it becomes almost impossible to buy at the price they have always wanted in mind. I think that is the most risky pattern of investment any investor would choose. Most of them never get to buy at the price they have in mind because by then they are unlucky the price of Bitcoin keeps increasing immediately they decided to sell their Bitcoin to buy back again.

They also end up getting in a wrong kind of mindset that focuses on waiting to buy rather than continuously buying or at least holding if they believe that they have enough BTC or they are getting close to having enough BTC. 

[Tamaperdana]

I love this dip here in prices.  Bitcoin is looking steady in the 90k's.  Right now i think this is a serious buy and accumulation time.  Cycles show around 500 days after the halving is peak cycle which is around sep/october of this year.  Think we start seeing prices take off right before may/june.  Guessing summertime will be a full bull run.  Thats what im banking on

The current price of Bitcoin may not be for everyone, but it is a very important time for investors who invest. Investors always want to buy at a low price and invest, maybe it is still a good time to invest because the market is in the current state, the market may not remain in this state for long, the Bitcoin market will definitely grow and exceed the highest height of all time.

I don't agree with you on this,  an investor don't always want to buy at a low price and Invest, but rather they always want to increase the overall size of their asset by buying at any time they have their investment money ready whether the price of Bitcoin is low or high, the current price of Bitcoin is for everyone who is ready to buy and hold. It is more of a traders mindset to buy at low price in order to sell high and not an investor.

Yes, for long-term bitcoin investors, price does not matter when they make a purchase. Because they have the intention to invest in the long term, so buying bitcoin at any current price is not a problem. Because the logic is like this, if we buy bitcoin at the highest price in the current cycle, it will most likely feel expensive. However, what is certain is that in the next 1 or 2 bitcoin halving cycles, the current highest price will definitely continue to be exceeded and could even double. The proof is that the price of bitcoin touched 68 thousand dollars in the previous cycle. Currently this price has been exceeded and is almost double that price. So with this, what should we worry about with the current price of bitcoin, unless you are a trader. Because a long-term investor in bitcoin will not worry about the price when accumulating. Therefore, think deeper and think that being a bitcoin investor is much better than being a trader.