Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[promise444c5]

Many just didn't expect it that early.
But I sure hope we will see a rebound in no time, for now, the index of fear is pretty big, however, it shouldn't discourage us from our goals 

Yeah it was sudden but why PANIC unless you're in for a short term investment  are you? If not then you shouldn't worry about the price just buy dips for now and HODL ..
AFAIK same people panicking were  still the same  people complaining it was too expensive to purchase when the price was above $90k, it dipped they say it's a piece of shit while it's still directed to them   .. when it rice again I'm sure they wil have story to tell. Currently the market is somehow reacting to some new but for sure soon it will be back on his feet although that doesn't mean we won't still have dips but it's still early for Bull run to be over maybe but we could all be wrong with the speculation anyway.

[JayJuanGee]

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Actually not all especially for those people who didn't take their position yet. Maybe they got less information about what better thing to do and what feed up in their mind is those wrong mindset to buy at the dip that's why they scared about if the market pumps or either experiencing some heavy red days.

I guess these people didn't have good experience that's why what better thing to do is to research for helpful information and join healthy discussion about what best thing to do especially if they want to invest with bitcoin.

Since for sure that they would learn lots of things especially those important aspects like this
Money management
How to do DCA
Setting up their emergency funds
And how to increase their beliefs that Bitcoin is strong asset and there's provably huge gonna happen especially that adaption rate is growing, also many more.

People just need courage to start their investment and everything will follow after that.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

At the same time, they ONLY have so much time to research into the matter.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

I am not unsympathetic, since it is true that any of us have to likely dedicate a certain amount of time whenever we are gong to change or add any new thing to our lives, and especially, we  have to dedicate time when we feel that it is something that is quite different than what we are already accustomed to doing.  WE might not be experienced in investing and we also might not have had spent a lot of time making sure that we had an emergency fund, even though sure we might have already had a practice of try to make sure that we do not run out of money between the times that we are paid.. so we might have had already established a practice in which we have 2-6 weeks of cash that is available in case our expenses are higher than expected or our income is less than expected.

[Makus]

Many just didn't expect it that early.
But I sure hope we will see a rebound in no time, for now, the index of fear is pretty big, however, it shouldn't discourage us from our goals 

Yeah it was sudden but why PANIC unless you're in for a short term investment  are you? If not then you shouldn't worry about the price just buy dips for now and HODL ..
AFAIK same people panicking were  still the same  people complaining it was too expensive to purchase when the price was above $90k, it dipped they say it's a piece of shit while it's still directed to them   .. when it rice again I'm sure they wil have story to tell. Currently the market is somehow reacting to some new but for sure soon it will be back on his feet although that doesn't mean we won't still have dips but it's still early for Bull run to be over maybe but we could all be wrong with the speculation anyway.

Sure, there is no need to panic because this is not the first time we are experiencing the dip, I expect only newbies who just joined the community to panic a bit because it's their first and they haven't had such experience before. When I was still a newbies on my first few holding day when the market was I bit volatile with dump movement I admit I felt same way too, but the most important aspect is when you do not let your emotions take over the decision making head of your life activities because it doesn't seem to end well with that part. All I see is bitcoin giving us another opportunity to buy at cheap price because it's possible we may not see this price value again, I urge everyone to take this dip serious. In bitcoin investment, dips like this shouldn't be considered as a threat but as an opportunity to buy at discounted prices. Volatility is a blessing and not a curse.

[Stormisover]

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Actually not all especially for those people who didn't take their position yet. Maybe they got less information about what better thing to do and what feed up in their mind is those wrong mindset to buy at the dip that's why they scared about if the market pumps or either experiencing some heavy red days.

I guess these people didn't have good experience that's why what better thing to do is to research for helpful information and join healthy discussion about what best thing to do especially if they want to invest with bitcoin.

Since for sure that they would learn lots of things especially those important aspects like this
Money management
How to do DCA
Setting up their emergency funds
And how to increase their beliefs that Bitcoin is strong asset and there's provably huge gonna happen especially that adaption rate is growing, also many more.

People just need courage to start their investment and everything will follow after that.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

At the same time, they ONLY have so much time to research into the matter.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

I am not unsympathetic, since it is true that any of us have to likely dedicate a certain amount of time whenever we are gong to change or add any new thing to our lives, and especially, we  have to dedicate time when we feel that it is something that is quite different than what we are already accustomed to doing.  WE might not be experienced in investing and we also might not have had spent a lot of time making sure that we had an emergency fund, even though sure we might have already had a practice of try to make sure that we do not run out of money between the times that we are paid.. so we might have had already established a practice in which we have 2-6 weeks of cash that is available in case our expenses are higher than expected or our income is less than expected.

Your message is very simple to understand and in other words, after getting started as a newbie investor that are not familiar with the market is important to be very much intentional about staying long in the market because that's is the only way to gain experience, it is much easier to get started but the inability to stay intentional with long term plan is what I see derives most newbies out of the track, the feeling of thinking that bitcon investment can make them rich overnight must be put away that way they are giving themselves enough time to understand and learn the process, we don't wake up one morning look at people that has worked so hard for a long time and has achievements and we just want to be like them without undergoing a process.

[sotelorene]

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Actually not all especially for those people who didn't take their position yet. Maybe they got less information about what better thing to do and what feed up in their mind is those wrong mindset to buy at the dip that's why they scared about if the market pumps or either experiencing some heavy red days.

I guess these people didn't have good experience that's why what better thing to do is to research for helpful information and join healthy discussion about what best thing to do especially if they want to invest with bitcoin.

Since for sure that they would learn lots of things especially those important aspects like this
Money management
How to do DCA
Setting up their emergency funds
And how to increase their beliefs that Bitcoin is strong asset and there's provably huge gonna happen especially that adaption rate is growing, also many more.

People just need courage to start their investment and everything will follow after that.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

At the same time, they ONLY have so much time to research into the matter.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

I am not unsympathetic, since it is true that any of us have to likely dedicate a certain amount of time whenever we are gong to change or add any new thing to our lives, and especially, we  have to dedicate time when we feel that it is something that is quite different than what we are already accustomed to doing.  WE might not be experienced in investing and we also might not have had spent a lot of time making sure that we had an emergency fund, even though sure we might have already had a practice of try to make sure that we do not run out of money between the times that we are paid.. so we might have had already established a practice in which we have 2-6 weeks of cash that is available in case our expenses are higher than expected or our income is less than expected.

Your message is very simple to understand and in other words, after getting started as a newbie investor that are not familiar with the market is important to be very much intentional about staying long in the market because that's is the only way to gain experience, it is much easier to get started but the inability to stay intentional with long term plan is what I see derives most newbies out of the track, the feeling of thinking that bitcon investment can make them rich overnight must be put away that way they are giving themselves enough time to understand and learn the process, we don't wake up one morning look at people that has worked so hard for a long time and has achievements and we just want to be like them without undergoing a process.

You are making sense though but I don't still understand what you mean by newbie should be very much intentional about staying long in the market nevertheless, I wouldn't or can not advise a newbie to stay long in the market since they are not a trader and newbie staying long in the market can make most of them sell off their coin because they will be so scared whenever they see the market going down (Dip) because they haven't grasp or understand what the market is capable of doing because if some investors who are not newbie can panic and sell off their coin whenever the market is dipping then how much more a newbie who don't know the potential of Bitcoin will react to this situation.


The mistake some people make at times is looking at other's people success and start wishing to be like them, it is very wrong because you don't know what those people have done to be In that state and what they are passing through and if some of them should revealed to you what they are doing you will marvelled and your wish will change instantly, I don't wish to be like anyone I want to be myself do things right the way I'm suppose to do it.

[Princess Leah]

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Your message is very simple to understand and in other words, after getting started as a newbie investor that are not familiar with the market is important to be very much intentional about staying long in the market because that's is the only way to gain experience, it is much easier to get started but the inability to stay intentional with long term plan is what I see derives most newbies out of the track, the feeling of thinking that bitcon investment can make them rich overnight must be put away that way they are giving themselves enough time to understand and learn the process, we don't wake up one morning look at people that has worked so hard for a long time and has achievements and we just want to be like them without undergoing a process.

You are making sense though but I don't still understand what you mean by newbie should be very much intentional about staying long in the market nevertheless, I wouldn't or can not advise a newbie to stay long in the market since they are not a trader and newbie staying long in the market can make most of them sell off their coin because they will be so scared whenever they see the market going down (Dip) because they haven't grasp or understand what the market is capable of doing because if some investors who are not newbie can panic and sell off their coin whenever the market is dipping then how much more a newbie who don't know the potential of Bitcoin will react to this situation.

The mistake some people make at times is looking at other's people success and start wishing to be like them, it is very wrong because you don't know what those people have done to be In that state and what they are passing through and if some of them should revealed to you what they are doing you will marvelled and your wish will change instantly, I don't wish to be like anyone I want to be myself do things right the way I'm suppose to do it.

I get his point, though his choice of words are not very accurate and could be confusing, I guess he meant to say Newbies should think long-term but rather used staying long in the market. Anyways I love that you corrected and made him understand that staying long in the market while investing on Bitcoin could scare newbies since the market is volatile and they could rush to sale out of panic.

 Many people have involved themselves into trading cause others have been successful in it and they want to be like them but what they don't understand it that success from trading is by chance and a newbie trader would suffer multiple lose at the beginning before luck shines on him/her, that's why it's advice that a newbie in Cryptocurrency should start with Bitcoin investment which is less riskier and all it just takes is to buy and hold for long-term without always monitoring the market like traders do.

[Agbamoni]

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

I believe not everyone knows a lot about economic to be able utilize the scale of preference rule. To becoming a good economist it takes years of study and perseverance. While reading through your response i come to the agreement that we dont need to be an economist to know what should be of priority. Adding to creating a list the next thing to do is to pros and cons to each item on the list. Then calculate the one with the highest score that is how we know which should come first.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

Exactly what i had in mind. But dont you think they should invest using percentage of their discretionary income instead of investing with a particular amount in mind. So that when there income increases while they are still making further research they will choose if they want to decrease or increase the percentage in the long run. $10 should be a minimum amount to be use for their investment.

[promise444c5]

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raisin,then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

Yeah agreed and besides, some point raised by OP  are just what anyone should  have figured  out normally before even investing yet if they don't it's still ideal to doing what you suggested and with time they could level up.
Also, learning about some isn't as complicated as OP might want to take it imho,  all it needs is just starting from somewhere, even a week could be enough in figuring out most of it . All other research can follow after  having the experience.

When I was still a newbies on my first few holding day when the market was I bit volatile with dump movement I admit I felt same way too, but the most important aspect is when you do not let your emotions take over the decision making head of your life activities because it doesn't seem to end well with that part. All I see is bitcoin giving us another opportunity to buy at cheap price because it's possible we may not see this price value again, I urge everyone to take this dip serious. In bitcoin investment, dips like this shouldn't be considered as a threat but as an opportunity to buy at discounted prices. Volatility is a blessing and not a curse.

Yeah Bitcoin is a high volatile coin and  not just of recent, it has always been a very volatile coin which is why you can wake in the morning and see the  price dumped above 10% or pumped above 10%, climbing from 60k to 85 was within  just 2~3 days I think that should tell you how volatile it is so seeing a dump of 95k to 8k in a week shouldn't give that much chills than just an opportunity to buy more ... There has been some draw backs In the past which were even worse All they do was HOLD.. not easy though just some determinations.

[Money bag]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Maybe that's our problem when we invest in any coin and constantly check the price of what we buy and can't hold our emotions. There are many of us investors who invest for the long term and many who invest for the short term. Yesterday I also invested in bitcoin for a short period of time by selling when bitcoin was touching $69k and buying when it hit $63k.

Moreover, if one is a long-term investor, he can buy bitcoins at any time and wait until the bull market begins to earn his profits.

You are right Bitcoin is also an investor you can invest your money on coin , we are not into buying and selling some people are greedy because because some buys their coin in a lower rate for them to sell it and have at least a little as they could but they want it to be high before it says it some in that case they lose their money because it will be going lower not higher so it's better to sell it and have your money and that point that.

[Money bag]

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Actually not all especially for those people who didn't take their position yet. Maybe they got less information about what better thing to do and what feed up in their mind is those wrong mindset to buy at the dip that's why they scared about if the market pumps or either experiencing some heavy red days.

I guess these people didn't have good experience that's why what better thing to do is to research for helpful information and join healthy discussion about what best thing to do especially if they want to invest with bitcoin.

Since for sure that they would learn lots of things especially those important aspects like this
Money management
How to do DCA
Setting up their emergency funds
And how to increase their beliefs that Bitcoin is strong asset and there's provably huge gonna happen especially that adaption rate is growing, also many more.

People just need courage to start their investment and everything will follow after that.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

At the same time, they ONLY have so much time to research into the matter.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

I am not unsympathetic, since it is true that any of us have to likely dedicate a certain amount of time whenever we are gong to change or add any new thing to our lives, and especially, we  have to dedicate time when we feel that it is something that is quite different than what we are already accustomed to doing.  WE might not be experienced in investing and we also might not have had spent a lot of time making sure that we had an emergency fund, even though sure we might have already had a practice of try to make sure that we do not run out of money between the times that we are paid.. so we might have had already established a practice in which we have 2-6 weeks of cash that is available in case our expenses are higher than expected or our income is less than expected.

Is only those that did not know the importance of Bitcoin that will not invest when the need arise, especially for those that knows when it rises and when it falls. We are now in buying and selling  in that case you sell your coin and have your profit no matter how small is please we shouldn't be greedy thanks.

[Btcdeybodi]

When I was still a newbies on my first few holding day when the market was I bit volatile with dump movement I admit I felt same way too, but the most important aspect is when you do not let your emotions take over the decision making head of your life activities because it doesn't seem to end well with that part. All I see is bitcoin giving us another opportunity to buy at cheap price because it's possible we may not see this price value again, I urge everyone to take this dip serious. In bitcoin investment, dips like this shouldn't be considered as a threat but as an opportunity to buy at discounted prices. Volatility is a blessing and not a curse.

Yeah Bitcoin is a high volatile coin and  not just of recent, it has always been a very volatile coin which is why you can wake in the morning and see the  price dumped above 10% or pumped above 10%, climbing from 60k to 85 was within  just 2~3 days I think that should tell you how volatile it is so seeing a dump of 95k to 8k in a week shouldn't give that much chills than just an opportunity to buy more ... There has been some draw backs In the past which were even worse All they do was HOLD.. not easy though just some determinations.

Investing in bitcoin needs courage so that you don't become emotional when the price is falling and one thing that is interesting about bitcoin is that no matter how severe a DIP get to, it can still come back quickly again and even get more stronger. This current DIP that happened went as low as $79k but the market is recovering gradually and has gotten to $86k so hopefully by this time next week, it must have increased past the recent price it is now that is why bitcoin is trustworthy even though profits isn't promised every time. Most of us use the past performance of bitcoin to analyze the next move of bitcoin but we should not always have the believe that it's history will always repeat, something can go wrong or right tomorrow that is why investing with an amount that won't trouble you if uncertain events happens is very important.

[ChocolateBitcoinK]

Many just didn't expect it that early.
But I sure hope we will see a rebound in no time, for now, the index of fear is pretty big, however, it shouldn't discourage us from our goals 

Yeah it was sudden but why PANIC unless you're in for a short term investment  are you? If not then you shouldn't worry about the price just buy dips for now and HODL ..
AFAIK same people panicking were  still the same  people complaining it was too expensive to purchase when the price was above $90k, it dipped they say it's a piece of shit while it's still directed to them   .. when it rice again I'm sure they wil have story to tell. Currently the market is somehow reacting to some new but for sure soon it will be back on his feet although that doesn't mean we won't still have dips but it's still early for Bull run to be over maybe but we could all be wrong with the speculation anyway.

Sure, there is no need to panic because this is not the first time we are experiencing the dip, I expect only newbies who just joined the community to panic a bit because it's their first and they haven't had such experience before. When I was still a newbies on my first few holding day when the market was I bit volatile with dump movement I admit I felt same way too, but the most important aspect is when you do not let your emotions take over the decision making head of your life activities because it doesn't seem to end well with that part. All I see is bitcoin giving us another opportunity to buy at cheap price because it's possible we may not see this price value again, I urge everyone to take this dip serious. In bitcoin investment, dips like this shouldn't be considered as a threat but as an opportunity to buy at discounted prices. Volatility is a blessing and not a curse.

Yes, for beginners, this kind of market volatility can be a cause for panic. But in fact, it is part of this kind of long-term growth of Bitcoin. And experienced investors can understand this very well. That is why experienced investors never panic in this kind of dump.

Looking at the history of Bitcoin, it can be understood that Bitcoin has faced many big dips, but over time, Bitcoin has also corrected very well. And over time, the price of Bitcoin has increased further. So there will be no exception in the present time, now Bitcoin is dumping, it will pump again soon. So it is wise to use this opportunity of the present time. The more Bitcoin the investor can strategically accrued at this time, the more profit that investor will be able to make in the future. So see the present time as a golden opportunity for investment and keep accumulating Bitcoin as much as possible. If you accumulated Bitcoin now, you will get a lot of good things back later.

[Tmoonz]

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Actually not all especially for those people who didn't take their position yet. Maybe they got less information about what better thing to do and what feed up in their mind is those wrong mindset to buy at the dip that's why they scared about if the market pumps or either experiencing some heavy red days.

I guess these people didn't have good experience that's why what better thing to do is to research for helpful information and join healthy discussion about what best thing to do especially if they want to invest with bitcoin.

Since for sure that they would learn lots of things especially those important aspects like this
Money management
How to do DCA
Setting up their emergency funds
And how to increase their beliefs that Bitcoin is strong asset and there's provably huge gonna happen especially that adaption rate is growing, also many more.

People just need courage to start their investment and everything will follow after that.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

At the same time, they ONLY have so much time to research into the matter.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

I am not unsympathetic, since it is true that any of us have to likely dedicate a certain amount of time whenever we are gong to change or add any new thing to our lives, and especially, we  have to dedicate time when we feel that it is something that is quite different than what we are already accustomed to doing.  WE might not be experienced in investing and we also might not have had spent a lot of time making sure that we had an emergency fund, even though sure we might have already had a practice of try to make sure that we do not run out of money between the times that we are paid.. so we might have had already established a practice in which we have 2-6 weeks of cash that is available in case our expenses are higher than expected or our income is less than expected.

Is only those that did not know the importance of Bitcoin that will not invest when the need arise, especially for those that knows when it rises and when it falls. We are now in buying and selling  in that case you sell your coin and have your profit no matter how small is please we shouldn't be greedy thanks.

You sound so confused and complicated, I will advise that you read up more from the previous Pages so you can get enough of the information that you are lacking. You need to understand that Bitcoin is not a coin for buying and selling for a small profit, chase the Big bag and buy as much as you can while holding it for a long term of about 4 to 10 years or even more than way you can have a compounded value of your asset over time which is better than chasing a few dollar profits which is very unrealistic.

[JayJuanGee]

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

I believe not everyone knows a lot about economic to be able utilize the scale of preference rule. To becoming a good economist it takes years of study and perseverance. While reading through your response i come to the agreement that we dont need to be an economist to know what should be of priority. Adding to creating a list the next thing to do is to pros and cons to each item on the list. Then calculate the one with the highest score that is how we know which should come first.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

Exactly what i had in mind. But dont you think they should invest using percentage of their discretionary income instead of investing with a particular amount in mind. So that when there income increases while they are still making further research they will choose if they want to decrease or increase the percentage in the long run. $10 should be a minimum amount to be use for their investment.

Since there are so many variables regarding how folks are accustomed to managing their cashflows, it can be difficult to prescribe any exact way that a person might figure out how much he is able to invest into bitcoin each week, whether it is $10 or some other amount, and surely some folks have more regular income and expenses as compared to other people, and surely some people have  more discretionary income than others, too, so the ones with more discretionary income will have more options as compared with the person who barely has any discretionary income or the one who has to figure out ways to increase his income and/or to decrease his expenses in order to be sure that he has discretionary income and also to  be sure that he has calculated correctly so that he is actually buying bitcoin with discretionary income rather than with money that he later needs for expenses.

There are a lot of folks who may well be a little bit sloppy with their cashflow management, and they are more easily able to get away with being sloppy if they had never engaged in a process of building an investment and also trying to build systems in which they are going to be able to withstand any temptation to tap into their bitcoin investment at a time that is not completely of their own choosing and also in line with their hopefully BIGGER goals of investing into bitcoin rather than trading which would mean adopting an investment that is 4-10 years or longer.  

It can take time to both develop the practices but also to reinforce the practices and to spend time learning  about their investment, even if they are ONLY able to spare 2-4 hours per week in their ongoing learning process.

If they choose to buy $10 or more per week on bitcoin and they spend hardly no time learning about bitcoin and they think that they will just learn about bitcoin without any effort, then they may well putting themselves at an information disadvantage and not knowing hardly shit about the thing that they are buying. which truly is not going to help them to build conviction about bitcoin in terms of really figuring out what bitcoin is... and surely I have some real world friends who buy bitcoin and shitcoins for even more than a whole cycle, and who still seem to hardly know the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins, even though every week they are buying bitcoin and shitcoins... and from my perspective, there is some kind of a disconnect with some people, and it can take a long time for some normies to actually learn about bitcoin and to even figure out how bitcoin differs from shitcoins, even when they seem to be otherwise smart people.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raisin,then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

Yeah agreed and besides, some point raised by OP  are just what anyone should  have figured  out normally before even investing yet if they don't it's still ideal to doing what you suggested and with time they could level up.
Also, learning about some isn't as complicated as OP might want to take it imho,  all it needs is just starting from somewhere, even a week could be enough in figuring out most of it . All other research can follow after  having the experience.

Well, there are 9 categories of learning (9 individual factors), and within some of the categories, any normie off the street is already going to have answers to each of the categories.  

At the same time within any of the categories, there could be some deal breakers that might not allow him to get started right away, and so he might have to spend a bit of time resolving some more narrow questions in regards to getting started aspects and including from what batch of money he might need to draw and perhaps figuring out some bitcoin sourcing questions, yet there is no end to actually learning and developing within the 9 categories, since the subject matters within the 9 categories of issues to learn and to contemplate are not completely static, so within some of the categories the answers will be more clear, and within other categories some thinking and/or planning and/or projecting of scenarios might have to take place...

Yet at the same time, there is no need to really figure out all of the answers to each of the categories in any kind of details before getting started to invest into bitcoin... even though even a hypothetical person who knows that he has a budget that he would be able to buy $100 per week in bitcoin, he may well choose a less aggressive approach, and he may well realize that he would be better off to start investing at $10 per week and then to spend some additional time preparing himself in other ways within the 9 categories and also perhaps he starts his investment into bitcoin at $10 per week, and then after a few months he ends up getting his amount per week up to $100, and he also might figure out that he has some lump sum way that he could gather up some funds to reallocate some funds that he knows that he has into bitcoin, too, but he might not want to invest such known lump sum amounts into bitcoin until he spends a bit more time studying and/or figuring out further about aspects of his 9 factors... and in the meantime, he has started his investment into bitcoin with $10 per week, and he is more engaged with learning bitcoin, and learning his 9 factors, and he may well have other things going on in his life too, but his ongoingly prioritizing 2-4 hours per week to spend on studying bitcoin and figuring out several of his 9 factors, he may well be developing conviction about what is bitcoin as compared to other possible investment options, which happens to be ONLY one of the 9 categories that he is spending time and trying to better figure out his perception of the matter and his level of bitcoin conviction, to the extent that he has developed much if any conviction.

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Is only those that did not know the importance of Bitcoin that will not invest when the need arise, especially for those that knows when it rises and when it falls. We are now in buying and selling  in that case you sell your coin and have your profit no matter how small is please we shouldn't be greedy thanks.

Of course, if you don't know what bitcoin is, and you are merely seeing short term dollar profits, then you may well consider that you want to cash out and not be too greedy, which also likely shows that you don't really understand what you had invested into, so you may well have to adjust your investment size and spend time learning about bitcoin, so that you are not getting too caught up in trying to figure out short-term BTC price moves. .but instead, investing an amount that does not cause you to get worked up about trying to figure out if  the BTC price might be going up, down or sideways.  It can take time to work out some systems, so then you can realize that greed is almost a non-issue for investors to be contemplating, even though he may see that a lot of the volatility of bitcoin may well relate to greed, manipulation, trickery, and even attempts to confuse bitcoin with shitcoins, so many bitcoin investors should be figuring out systems in which they are able to try to stay focused within their own means and keeping their eye on the prize, which is bitcoin, and if they are in their first cycle of bitcoin, they may well just stay focused on buying and building no matter the BTC price, and then perhaps reassessing (and/or learning about bitcoin as they advance in their bitcoin investing adn their building up of their bitcoin stash size).

Selling and/or greed should not even be an issue for someone in their first cycle, even if their holdings happens to be in profits.

You are ONLY on the forum for a bit more than a month Money bag, so unless you have been buying way before your forum registration, it seems a bit strange that you are lecturing about the supposed relevance of greed for any guys that may well need to stay focused on buying bitcoin, especially since, selling is not going to help any newbie to accumulate more bitcoin, which the accumulation of bitcoin should be the focus for an overwhelming number of newbies, unless for some reason they had front-loaded their bitcoin investment, which is not that common of an occurrence in order to be relevant to whatever you seem to be talking about, Money bag... to the extent that you even have any meaningful input.. since maybe you should be asking more questions or perhaps describing some aspects of your own investment and/or BTC accumulation dilemmas rather than giving lectures... unless you, as a newbie, are trying to present yourself as some kind of an investment and/or bitcoin guru, even when you seem to be employing some of the rookie mistakes of mixing up trading with investing.

[Tamaperdana]

Bitcoin price is already bouncing back and so we don't need to panic too much,now it's at 84k, the price is recovery from a massive sell off and real investor are able to take this dip opportunity to buy more Bitcoin to their port-folio, people without strong mind are selling off their asses because of the way the price is going, this is the reason Bitcoin is a long-term investment and not a short-term investment, because if you have budgeted for a long-term,you will not be boarded about the price now, since it is sure that the price will go up.

Even though the price of bitcoin is plummeting, to be honest, I personally don't panic in the slightest. Because why panic, because I am a long term investor in bitcoin. So even if this year the price of Bitcoin drops to 50K dollars or 40K dollars, I personally won't panic at all. Because basically I already have a target and my target is still far away in bitcoin. So, in my personal opinion, the person who is panicking about the recent Bitcoin price drop is most likely not a long-term investor, but rather a trader. So if you are a long-term investor in bitcoin, there is no need to panic when there is a deep price decline, because of course you also have a long target in bitcoin. That's why I personally don't really recommend someone to become a trader in Bitcoin. Because of course it is very risky and makes our minds dizzy. Because how can we be calm if every day we see a market full of price fluctuations. So you can be sure that if we become traders our minds will definitely not be calm. Therefore, becoming a long-term investor is the right thing to do in Bitcoin.

[laijsica]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Maybe that's our problem when we invest in any coin and constantly check the price of what we buy and can't hold our emotions. There are many of us investors who invest for the long term and many who invest for the short term. Yesterday I also invested in bitcoin for a short period of time by selling when bitcoin was touching $69k and buying when it hit $63k.

Moreover, if one is a long-term investor, he can buy bitcoins at any time and wait until the bull market begins to earn his profits.

You are right Bitcoin is also an investor you can invest your money on coin , we are not into buying and selling some people are greedy because because some buys their coin in a lower rate for them to sell it and have at least a little as they could but they want it to be high before it says it some in that case they lose their money because it will be going lower not higher so it's better to sell it and have your money and that point that.

As a newbie investor, you may naturally have some doubts about Bitcoin. If you are tempted to learn more about Bitcoin, you should study more about how it actually works as an investment. Bitcoin should not be compared to other currencies because the important feature of Bitcoin is the possibility of you profiting financially by increasing your holdings over time.

You should literally assume that your efforts to save Bitcoin are from discretionary income. Short-term traders plan their investments according to the season and take a lot of risk with market conditions. A newbie investor can keep the pace of savings at any time without considering the time or price of buying Bitcoin from an alternative income stream.

You said that some people lose money, so it is better to sell and keep the money. The answer to your question is that as a new investor, you should start investing in Bitcoin according to your means by allocating discretionary income/extra money that you don't mind losing for the next 4-10 years. In fact, the most suitable method for saving Bitcoin is the DCA method. You can easily use this method as a long-term accumulation strategy without any financial risk.

[Barikui1]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Maybe that's our problem when we invest in any coin and constantly check the price of what we buy and can't hold our emotions. There are many of us investors who invest for the long term and many who invest for the short term. Yesterday I also invested in bitcoin for a short period of time by selling when bitcoin was touching $69k and buying when it hit $63k.

Moreover, if one is a long-term investor, he can buy bitcoins at any time and wait until the bull market begins to earn his profits.

You are right Bitcoin is also an investor you can invest your money on coin , we are not into buying and selling some people are greedy because because some buys their coin in a lower rate for them to sell it and have at least a little as they could but they want it to be high before it says it some in that case they lose their money because it will be going lower not higher so it's better to sell it and have your money and that point that.

As a newbie investor, you may naturally have some doubts about Bitcoin. If you are tempted to learn more about Bitcoin, you should study more about how it actually works as an investment. Bitcoin should not be compared to other currencies because the important feature of Bitcoin is the possibility of you profiting financially by increasing your holdings over time.

You should literally assume that your efforts to save Bitcoin are from discretionary income. Short-term traders plan their investments according to the season and take a lot of risk with market conditions. A newbie investor can keep the pace of savings at any time without considering the time or price of buying Bitcoin from an alternative income stream.

You said that some people lose money, so it is better to sell and keep the money. The answer to your question is that as a new investor, you should start investing in Bitcoin according to your means by allocating discretionary income/extra money that you don't mind losing for the next 4-10 years. In fact, the most suitable method for saving Bitcoin is the DCA method. You can easily use this method as a long-term accumulation strategy without any financial risk.

You don't need to say that, their is always a risk attached to anything you are doing in this life due to uncertainty around the world today and Bitcoin is not an exception, though it has already been proven that since it's an asset that appreciate in value overtime, if it can be held longer, the risk factor will be shrinked to the bearest minimum which is obviously true, but regardless of anything, investing with an amount you can do away with for a very long period of time is the idea thing, so that when a dip like this comes, you wouldn't be bothered and your emotions wouldn't get the better of you, because since Bitcoin can always recovered and rally back to even better height, you wouldn't be worried because you know that you are holding it for the future not for short term gains, so even though the value remain down for an extended period of time, you wouldn't panic, because Bitcoin will always behaves like Bitcoin because it will always recover even if it doesn't recover as fast as expected.

[Umulala-alala]

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Actually not all especially for those people who didn't take their position yet. Maybe they got less information about what better thing to do and what feed up in their mind is those wrong mindset to buy at the dip that's why they scared about if the market pumps or either experiencing some heavy red days.

I guess these people didn't have good experience that's why what better thing to do is to research for helpful information and join healthy discussion about what best thing to do especially if they want to invest with bitcoin.

Since for sure that they would learn lots of things especially those important aspects like this
Money management
How to do DCA
Setting up their emergency funds
And how to increase their beliefs that Bitcoin is strong asset and there's provably huge gonna happen especially that adaption rate is growing, also many more.

People just need courage to start their investment and everything will follow after that.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

At the same time, they ONLY have so much time to research into the matter.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

I am not unsympathetic, since it is true that any of us have to likely dedicate a certain amount of time whenever we are gong to change or add any new thing to our lives, and especially, we  have to dedicate time when we feel that it is something that is quite different than what we are already accustomed to doing.  WE might not be experienced in investing and we also might not have had spent a lot of time making sure that we had an emergency fund, even though sure we might have already had a practice of try to make sure that we do not run out of money between the times that we are paid.. so we might have had already established a practice in which we have 2-6 weeks of cash that is available in case our expenses are higher than expected or our income is less than expected.

Is only those that did not know the importance of Bitcoin that will not invest when the need arise, especially for those that knows when it rises and when it falls. We are now in buying and selling  in that case you sell your coin and have your profit no matter how small is please we shouldn't be greedy thanks.

I believe that even Sorcerer's may not know when bitcoin will rise and when it will fall and thread topic should not make you think we can buy and sell in shorter period, what you needed is buy and buy and buy more bitcoin consistently with the dollar cost averaging method and hodl for a couple of 4-10 before even having the thought of selling and when selling it should not be all but small portion and still keep buying.

[asarfiar]

now Bitcoin is dumping, it will pump again soon. So it is wise to use this opportunity of the present time. The more Bitcoin the investor can strategically accrued at this time, the more profit that investor will be able to make in the future. So see the present time as a golden opportunity for investment and keep accumulating Bitcoin as much as possible. If you accumulated Bitcoin now, you will get a lot of good things back later.

How much do you say or meant to say about the investment?As far as I know, people of all classes, regardless of the rich, can invest Bitcoin If you just invest for profit, this is a wrong decision, because it may not give you the capital as you like. If you look at one thing you will see people from the bullshit period from the bullish periodBitcoin is more interested in buying Now Bitcoin is dumping so many people are in confusion now, but I am investing regularly because at any time it will prepare for the racing competition.

[Lembo69]

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Actually not all especially for those people who didn't take their position yet. Maybe they got less information about what better thing to do and what feed up in their mind is those wrong mindset to buy at the dip that's why they scared about if the market pumps or either experiencing some heavy red days.

I guess these people didn't have good experience that's why what better thing to do is to research for helpful information and join healthy discussion about what best thing to do especially if they want to invest with bitcoin.

Since for sure that they would learn lots of things especially those important aspects like this
Money management
How to do DCA
Setting up their emergency funds
And how to increase their beliefs that Bitcoin is strong asset and there's provably huge gonna happen especially that adaption rate is growing, also many more.

People just need courage to start their investment and everything will follow after that.

Newbies need courage, but also they need to start, so if they are having dilemmas in regards to the various points that you are raising, then they still should start and adjust their position size to a smaller amount.

And, yeah, they might have to create a list and then figure out which parts of their list has higher priorities.

They are not sure if they believe in bitcoin as an investment or not as compared with other places that they could put value.

At the same time, they ONLY have so much time to research into the matter.

if they choose to invest $10 per week while they are researching further into the matter, they still have to dedicate some time for figuring out from where they are going to source their coins. and other kinds of actions related to that.   They also have to make sure that $10 per week is a sufficient amount for them to get started.. so they might have to figure out some aspects of their own budget.

Maybe if they are choosing to invest $10 per week into bitcoin, then maybe they would also be able to figure out a way to dedicate a minimum of 2-4 hours per week studying things that are related to bitcoin.

I am not unsympathetic, since it is true that any of us have to likely dedicate a certain amount of time whenever we are gong to change or add any new thing to our lives, and especially, we  have to dedicate time when we feel that it is something that is quite different than what we are already accustomed to doing.  WE might not be experienced in investing and we also might not have had spent a lot of time making sure that we had an emergency fund, even though sure we might have already had a practice of try to make sure that we do not run out of money between the times that we are paid.. so we might have had already established a practice in which we have 2-6 weeks of cash that is available in case our expenses are higher than expected or our income is less than expected.

The reason for the need for courage in beginners is that when a new investor sees the market going up and down, he may panic and think he will lose his money, his blood pressure may start to rise, the more a new investor reads and studies, the more he will benefit, he will learn and understand how to organize his portfolio and when to make a decision. However, Bitcoin is a volatile currency, so he needs to be a more interested investor in the DCA method, beginners get weak or a little scared when he tries something new and when he thinks if it is possible for him, his blood pressure rises. If someone can make a tough decision that it will be done by me, yes I will get this much courage, he will be more focused on his perseverance. The advice for new investors is to invest in alternative sources of income and try to learn something new. They should try to increase their cash flow, and one more thing to add to their list is investment funds