Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Tonimez]

The reason that many of us bitcoin focused investors suggest to get started investing into bitcoin right away is because bitcoin is a good investment  in which a person needs to get started and needs to take responsibility in regards to how much to put in and how to put the money into the investment. 

the reason that many focused investors start investing right away is not only because bitcoin is a good asset, but because they see it as the only asset with high profit in the long run considering its longevity starting from 2009-2025 from $0.001- $109k. so in describing a good asset like bitcoin, there should be a criteria to quantify such an asset with great store of value for long term investment and the reason why it should be addressed as such.

Past performance does not  guarantee future results.

and even though bitcoin is a good asset and need to start right away, some people came with a wrong information thinking bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme but they got disappointed down the road because they where not for real. they only came to take advantage of bitcoin but later discovered bitcoin is not what they thought it was. some picked courage and continue while others left because of inpatient. so each of us knows what make us to stick to bitcoin. either we got the information wrongly and took advantage or got the information right and later still back off. sure there will always be two set of people.

You might be correct, since the level of bitcoin adoption is still quite low (perhaps around less than 1% of the world's population), yet there is still a lot of variance in regards  to some folks who buy bitcoin and get out and some folks who stick with bitcoin and some folks who have not yet gotten into bitcoin and some folks who are going to be coming to bitcoin at a later date.

There can also be variations of right and  variations of wrong, since some folks  will have had invested into bitcoin aggressively  and others will have invested into bitcoin whimpily.  Some persons might  have become more  aggressive with the passage of time, and others might have become more whimpy with the  passage of time.  I doubt that the matter is black  and white, even though there are coiners and there are no  coiners, yet at the same time, some coiners have been into bitcoin for longer periods than others, yet even some of the longer term bitcoiners might have made mistakes of either not accumulating enough BTC or selling  too much too soon... or sometimes leveraging and/or becoming overly aggressive and recking themselves in the process of "investing into bitcoin."

I doubt that bitcoin is necessarily easy for people to understand.  it can take quite a while to really start to feel comfortable with bitcoin, and there still might be a lot of aspects that many of us do not really understand about bitcoin.

bitcoin is necessarily easy to understand depending on the person in question and how he understand it and how serious they become immediately the information is given. sometimes people will want to understand every part of bitcoin before investing and it will lead to procrastination, while some people will start immediately without hesitation and increase over time. this forum is a case study of this kind of scenario where many people are registered the same year but only few will stick here to learn and improve there skill and knowledge and start investment. our level of speed is determined by how serious and effective we tend to be when information is given to us. if eventually lazy people are given opportunity they procrastinate it, but when another took it seriously and utilized it, and achieve success then the lazy ones will proclaim that the information didn't came at he right time.  

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices. Imagine buying bitcoin at 96k and eventually buying again at 80k, an investor actually feels he has gained an equivalent $16k knowing fully well that the market volatility doesn't go downwards always hence there's hope that bitcoin will still go above 96k.

That you buy by DCA does not make you want to always buy at higher prices than the previous buys. This is one of the best advantages of DCA and Discretionary income-based investment strategy. Beginners that understand this trend won't panic nor want to sell off his  bitcoin accumulation over slight market change. Investing by lump-sum is good, but whenever market "dips too low" by their standards, regrets set in because most lump-sum investments are not done with only discretionary income and sometimes greed-motivated.

[MainIbem]

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices. Imagine buying bitcoin at 96k and eventually buying again at 80k, an investor actually feels he has gained an equivalent $16k knowing fully well that the market volatility doesn't go downwards always hence there's hope that bitcoin will still go above 96k.

That you buy by DCA does not make you want to always buy at higher prices than the previous buys. This is one of the best advantages of DCA and Discretionary income-based investment strategy. Beginners that understand this trend won't panic nor want to sell off his  bitcoin accumulation over slight market change. Investing by lump-sum is good, but whenever market "dips too low" by their standards, regrets set in because most lump-sum investments are not done with only discretionary income and sometimes greed-motivated.

The longer an investor stays in buying and holding Bitcoin the more they'll realise that there's no reason to panic when the price tends to go downwards cause by then they would've got experience and understand how the market operates, it's only people with less experience that panics whenever there's a downtrend in the market, that's why every investor needs to stick to the concept of holding Bitcoin for long so they won't end up like those who panic over every down trend of the market, experience they say is the best teacher, it's inexperience that make people ignorance. Well, most beginners might have learnt from other old investors experience or maybe from a long-term holder that introduced them into investing in Bitcoin that's why they're suprisenly steadfast to holding Bitcoin than their pairs, that's why they don't panic since they seen someone profits from it, they tend to believe and understand what it takes to be a true bitcoin investor. Anyways it doesn't matter the strategy an investor uses, whether lump-sum or DCA, once some goes against the concept of Bitcoin investment and investment maybe due to greed or whatever they'll tend to fail by selling at lose.

[Stormisover]

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices. Imagine buying bitcoin at 96k and eventually buying again at 80k, an investor actually feels he has gained an equivalent $16k knowing fully well that the market volatility doesn't go downwards always hence there's hope that bitcoin will still go above 96k.

That you buy by DCA does not make you want to always buy at higher prices than the previous buys. This is one of the best advantages of DCA and Discretionary income-based investment strategy. Beginners that understand this trend won't panic nor want to sell off his  bitcoin accumulation over slight market change. Investing by lump-sum is good, but whenever market "dips too low" by their standards, regrets set in because most lump-sum investments are not done with only discretionary income and sometimes greed-motivated.

Irrespective of the strategy or strategies being use be it DCA, Lump sump, or buying at the dip, it is in our own good and for smooth running of our investment that our investment money should come from our discretionary income as to enable us to sort our basic needs comfortablely without running to our Bitcoin investment and at the same be buying Bitcoin, consistently, effeciently or even aggressively without over doing it. It is of great importance and an essential that we take care of our basic needs before investing because that's is the only way we hold for long without running to our investment, there is no need to rush in, any one that rush in by using the money meant for basic needs will definitely rush out too soon, If the plan is for long term there is no need to rush things and crash along the line, rather it should be more like a solid steady to enable you to win.

[Futurexxx]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

[Joy- maker]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

to me I believe that it is not only when someone invest what he or she can't afford to loose in bitcoin that can only cause panic when a DIP occur in bitcoin, because lack of knowledge and understanding on how bitcoin works, can also leed to panic when a DIP occur in bitcoin expecially newbies who are just new into bitcoin investment always fall into that category of panicking at that their first statge of their bitcoin investment.

[Ruttoshi]

The reason that many of us bitcoin focused investors suggest to get started investing into bitcoin right away is because bitcoin is a good investment  in which a person needs to get started and needs to take responsibility in regards to how much to put in and how to put the money into the investment. 

the reason that many focused investors start investing right away is not only because bitcoin is a good asset, but because they see it as the only asset with high profit in the long run considering its longevity starting from 2009-2025 from $0.001- $109k. so in describing a good asset like bitcoin, there should be a criteria to quantify such an asset with great store of value for long term investment and the reason why it should be addressed as such.

Past performance does not  guarantee future results.

and even though bitcoin is a good asset and need to start right away, some people came with a wrong information thinking bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme but they got disappointed down the road because they where not for real. they only came to take advantage of bitcoin but later discovered bitcoin is not what they thought it was. some picked courage and continue while others left because of inpatient. so each of us knows what make us to stick to bitcoin. either we got the information wrongly and took advantage or got the information right and later still back off. sure there will always be two set of people.

You might be correct, since the level of bitcoin adoption is still quite low (perhaps around less than 1% of the world's population), yet there is still a lot of variance in regards  to some folks who buy bitcoin and get out and some folks who stick with bitcoin and some folks who have not yet gotten into bitcoin and some folks who are going to be coming to bitcoin at a later date.

There can also be variations of right and  variations of wrong, since some folks  will have had invested into bitcoin aggressively  and others will have invested into bitcoin whimpily.  Some persons might  have become more  aggressive with the passage of time, and others might have become more whimpy with the  passage of time.  I doubt that the matter is black  and white, even though there are coiners and there are no  coiners, yet at the same time, some coiners have been into bitcoin for longer periods than others, yet even some of the longer term bitcoiners might have made mistakes of either not accumulating enough BTC or selling  too much too soon... or sometimes leveraging and/or becoming overly aggressive and recking themselves in the process of "investing into bitcoin."

I doubt that bitcoin is necessarily easy for people to understand.  it can take quite a while to really start to feel comfortable with bitcoin, and there still might be a lot of aspects that many of us do not really understand about bitcoin.

bitcoin is necessarily easy to understand depending on the person in question and how he understand it and how serious they become immediately the information is given. sometimes people will want to understand every part of bitcoin before investing and it will lead to procrastination, while some people will start immediately without hesitation and increase over time. this forum is a case study of this kind of scenario where many people are registered the same year but only few will stick here to learn and improve there skill and knowledge and start investment. our level of speed is determined by how serious and effective we tend to be when information is given to us. if eventually lazy people are given opportunity they procrastinate it, but when another took it seriously and utilized it, and achieve success then the lazy ones will proclaim that the information didn't came at he right time.  

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices. Imagine buying bitcoin at 96k and eventually buying again at 80k, an investor actually feels he has gained an equivalent $16k knowing fully well that the market volatility doesn't go downwards always hence there's hope that bitcoin will still go above 96k.

That you buy by DCA does not make you want to always buy at higher prices than the previous buys. This is one of the best advantages of DCA and Discretionary income-based investment strategy. Beginners that understand this trend won't panic nor want to sell off his  bitcoin accumulation over slight market change. Investing by lump-sum is good, but whenever market "dips too low" by their standards, regrets set in because most lump-sum investments are not done with only discretionary income and sometimes greed-motivated.

Anyone using lump sum to accumulate bitcoin will not run at loss when there's a dip as long as he didn't sell but hodli for a long-term and keeps his bitcoin investment accumulation ongoing. Don't get it twisted there is a accumulation strategy will make a long term investor run at loss when he is using it, and how do you know that iinvestors who uses lump sum gets greedy and use more than their discretionary income to invest in bitcoin.

Lump sum mustn't be a big amount of money, it can be a little amount too. As long as it isn't an amount that you are expecting to use to buy something important to you, you can lump sum with such amount. I might not be expecting any money from anyone, but I was given a bonus at work of $200 and I have my DCA running, I can decide to use $150 from the $200 and buy bitcoin right away without thinking twice. I just lump sum or better still use the whole $200 to buy righy away regardless of the price of bitcoin.

One thing that I want you to understand is that, no matter any accumulation strategy that you are using, if you use more than your discretionary income to buy bitcoin, you are gambling and not investing. This is because when your needs arises, you will have no option but to sell your bitcoin to take care of your needs. Only use the amount of money that you can afford to lose to invest in bitcoin wether you are using DCA strategy, lump sum or buy at the dip, so that you don't end up running at loss by selling your bitcoin investment that you are still building early.

[Frankolala]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

to me I believe that it is not only when someone invest what he or she can't afford to loose in bitcoin that can only cause panic when a DIP occur in bitcoin, because lack of knowledge and understanding on how bitcoin works, can also leed to panic when a DIP occur in bitcoin expecially newbies who are just new into bitcoin investment always fall into that category of panicking at that their first statge of their bitcoin investment.

This is why a new investor needs to have the basic knowledge of bitcoin that's volatile in nature before investing, and that bitcoin investment is a long-term one, and shouldn't sell but only keep buying. This is the more reason why new investor needs to get started immediately they can with their discretionary income, and learn simultaneously as they're investing to know that a dip most occur. Learning will also build their confidence in bitcoin, and they will be ready for a dip in price since it's the nature of bitcoin.

[SOKO-DEKE]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

That is the truth. Most people panic not because of anything easy, but because they have invested what they can't afford to lose. The way some people view Bitcoin investment is what makes them sell their holdings along the way.Just imagine someone has $5,000 in their bank account and invests the entire $5,000 or even $4,000. They will definitely panic whenever Bitcoin's price drops, even for a correction. Some people are losing in Bitcoin investment, despite their knowledge about it, all because they invested what they can't afford to lose. They are trying to claim smartness, thinking they can make big profits if they invest a large amount of money.

It is true that capital in Bitcoin investment often leads to profit, but capital alone is not the key to big profits in Bitcoin investment. How long someone can hold also plays a significant role also .investing only what you can afford to lose ensures a smoother journey in Bitcoin investment. Always invest within your means and keep an emergency fund aside.

[Derekfunds]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

Investing what one can not afford to let go is also a reason why people panic but the main reason why they panic is because of the intention they have concerning there investment they may not made it open or clear to people that they are actually investing for short term ( trading) and so when they invest and see the Dip, the intention they have inside will bring up fear and the fear now is what generate panic  because anyone who is investing in Bitcoin for a long term shouldn't be worried about the market ups and downs because it is a normal thing and on the other hand investing with what you can not afford to let go means ignorance but like I said people with the intention to sell quick are the people who actually do this kind of shit because they believe they will make huge profit immediately after investing with big amount of money.

[GIF-JOBS]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

Investing what one can not afford to let go is also a reason why people panic but the main reason why they panic is because of the intention they have concerning there investment they may not made it open or clear to people that they are actually investing for short term ( trading) and so when they invest and see the Dip, the intention they have inside will bring up fear and the fear now is what generate panic  because anyone who is investing in Bitcoin for a long term shouldn't be worried about the market ups and downs because it is a normal thing and on the other hand investing with what you can not afford to let go means ignorance but like I said people with the intention to sell quick are the people who actually do this kind of shit because they believe they will make huge profit immediately after investing with big amount of money.

But because of their investment mindset, they face a lot of losses. They think Bitcoin is too easy, and they have a lot of confidence, they assume that Bitcoin will definitely increase after this time, and they will trade (What they call investment) for that short-term period, for the purpose of short-term quick profits. And after that, they start facing losses, because Bitcoin will not move as they expected, due to which they are forced to sell at a loss. But a long-term real Bitcoin investor invests regularly, their thinking is long-term, that is why they never get scared by short-term declines. They are knowledgeable enough about the natural process of regular market fluctuations, so they use these fluctuations to buy Bitcoin at a low price, as a result they are able to accumulate Bitcoin at a better price. That's why when it comes to Bitcoin investment, you don't just have to think about profit, you have to use the right strategy to create a good portfolio, then success will come.

[Mehmet69]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

This means that the investor has not yet fully acquired knowledge. You said that the investor invests beyond their means. But if you look at the investment rules, you can see that it is said to invest using discretionary income. Investment should not be considered a burden. Investment should be considered as your strength. There is no specific time to invest in Bitcoin because its market fluctuates rapidly. If you only want to invest in the deep, then now is a very good opportunity for you. Now if an investor uses the opportunity to invest beyond his means, it can be said to be his mistake. If an investor invests and has to break the investment within a few days, then he will definitely face losses.

In my opinion, it is important for any investor to gain the right knowledge before starting an investment. Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme by investing in the short term. Bitcoin is an opportunity to build your wealth by investing in the long term.

[Agbe]

Past performance does not  guarantee future results.

Oh yes, many people are still using the past results to judge the future which is wrong because the price of bitcoin is volatile and fluctuating.

You might be correct, since the level of bitcoin adoption is still quite low (perhaps around less than 1% of the world's population), yet there is still a lot of variance in regards  to some folks who buy bitcoin and get out and some folks who stick with bitcoin and some folks who have not yet gotten into bitcoin and some folks who are going to be coming to bitcoin at a later date.

The people that I own the existence of bitcoin are more and I might say they are up to 90% but the adoption is very small. And as you said it will 1%. I am saying this base on the experience from my street. Whoever I asked if they know bitcoin and they said yes but they are not investing and if I way why, they would give one excuse to another. Many k ow it but few are investing.

There can also be variations of right and  variations of wrong, since some folks  will have had invested into bitcoin aggressively  and others will have invested into bitcoin whimpily.  Some persons might  have become more  aggressive with the passage of time, and others might have become more whimpy with the  passage of time.  I doubt that the matter is black  and white, even though there are coiners and there are no  coiners, yet at the same time, some coiners have been into bitcoin for longer periods than others, yet even some of the longer term bitcoiners might have made mistakes of either not accumulating enough BTC or selling  too much too soon... or sometimes leveraging and/or becoming overly aggressive and recking themselves in the process of "investing into bitcoin."

I will say the aggressive investors are those who have money to invest big amounts at once or whenever they are investing. People like Elon Musk invest aggressively.

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

Learning is a continuous thing that has no ending. Some folks believe they have known all but there are many things they have not heard in their area of study and bitcoin has a wide scope to cover so we learn every day.

[Ruttoshi]

There can also be variations of right and  variations of wrong, since some folks  will have had invested into bitcoin aggressively  and others will have invested into bitcoin whimpily.  Some persons might  have become more  aggressive with the passage of time, and others might have become more whimpy with the  passage of time.  I doubt that the matter is black  and white, even though there are coiners and there are no  coiners, yet at the same time, some coiners have been into bitcoin for longer periods than others, yet even some of the longer term bitcoiners might have made mistakes of either not accumulating enough BTC or selling  too much too soon... or sometimes leveraging and/or becoming overly aggressive and recking themselves in the process of "investing into bitcoin."

I will say the aggressive investors are those who have money to invest big amounts at once or whenever they are investing. People like Elon Musk invest aggressively.

Investing aggressively is not only for the rich people like alone, though they have a strong financial strength that will make them in a situation to buy aggressively than someone with a small discretionary income. A poor man can invest aggressively too but he has to do that based on the level of hos discretionary income. A pleb who is investing in bitcoin amd has a discretionary income of $60, if he buys bitcoin with $50-$55, we can say that investor is investing aggressively despite his little discretionary income.

The reason is because, he can invest with $30-$40 but he didn't, rather he decided to invest more and keep very little amount of money with him. Another investor might choose to only invest $20. If you compare these two investors, you will see that the former will accumulate more bitcoin than the latter. Investors who have gotten started with their bitcoin investment and has little discretionary income needs to look for how to increase their income, in order to them to be able to increase their regular DCA weekly amount, and invest aggressively if possible.

[Spaceman1000$]

The reason that many of us bitcoin focused investors suggest to get started investing into bitcoin right away is because bitcoin is a good investment  in which a person needs to get started and needs to take responsibility in regards to how much to put in and how to put the money into the investment. 

the reason that many focused investors start investing right away is not only because bitcoin is a good asset, but because they see it as the only asset with high profit in the long run considering its longevity starting from 2009-2025 from $0.001- $109k. so in describing a good asset like bitcoin, there should be a criteria to quantify such an asset with great store of value for long term investment and the reason why it should be addressed as such.

Past performance does not  guarantee future results.

and even though bitcoin is a good asset and need to start right away, some people came with a wrong information thinking bitcoin is a get rich quick scheme but they got disappointed down the road because they where not for real. they only came to take advantage of bitcoin but later discovered bitcoin is not what they thought it was. some picked courage and continue while others left because of inpatient. so each of us knows what make us to stick to bitcoin. either we got the information wrongly and took advantage or got the information right and later still back off. sure there will always be two set of people.

You might be correct, since the level of bitcoin adoption is still quite low (perhaps around less than 1% of the world's population), yet there is still a lot of variance in regards  to some folks who buy bitcoin and get out and some folks who stick with bitcoin and some folks who have not yet gotten into bitcoin and some folks who are going to be coming to bitcoin at a later date.

There can also be variations of right and  variations of wrong, since some folks  will have had invested into bitcoin aggressively  and others will have invested into bitcoin whimpily.  Some persons might  have become more  aggressive with the passage of time, and others might have become more whimpy with the  passage of time.  I doubt that the matter is black  and white, even though there are coiners and there are no  coiners, yet at the same time, some coiners have been into bitcoin for longer periods than others, yet even some of the longer term bitcoiners might have made mistakes of either not accumulating enough BTC or selling  too much too soon... or sometimes leveraging and/or becoming overly aggressive and recking themselves in the process of "investing into bitcoin."

I doubt that bitcoin is necessarily easy for people to understand.  it can take quite a while to really start to feel comfortable with bitcoin, and there still might be a lot of aspects that many of us do not really understand about bitcoin.

bitcoin is necessarily easy to understand depending on the person in question and how he understand it and how serious they become immediately the information is given. sometimes people will want to understand every part of bitcoin before investing and it will lead to procrastination, while some people will start immediately without hesitation and increase over time. this forum is a case study of this kind of scenario where many people are registered the same year but only few will stick here to learn and improve there skill and knowledge and start investment. our level of speed is determined by how serious and effective we tend to be when information is given to us. if eventually lazy people are given opportunity they procrastinate it, but when another took it seriously and utilized it, and achieve success then the lazy ones will proclaim that the information didn't came at he right time.  

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

That you buy by DCA does not make you want to always buy at higher prices than the previous buys. This is one of the best advantages of DCA and Discretionary income-based investment strategy. Beginners that understand this trend won't panic nor want to sell off his  bitcoin accumulation over slight market change. Investing by lump-sum is good, but whenever market "dips too low" by their standards, regrets set in because most lump-sum investments are not done with only discretionary income and sometimes greed-motivated.

DCA doesn't even encourage buying at higher price, DCA allows you to buy at all the price level and encourages to increase your buy when there is a dip if you have the capacity. As for most investors that buy lump-sum, they mostly understand the drill, that if there is a dip, they are likely going to buy more, because it avails them the opportunity, in fact they mostly see it as the fear of losing out(FOMO) if they don't invest when there is a dip, it's only a kindergarten investors that panics when there is dip, however nobody is encouraged to invest his total income, at least to reduce any form of panic if the market is unstable.

[Agbe]

Investing aggressively is not only for the rich people like alone, though they have a strong financial strength that will make them in a situation to buy aggressively than someone with a small discretionary income

You second statement has completed everything and said it all. "Though" means they have the superior power to buy bitcoin massively and that is the aggressive investment. If an investor bought some unit every month as a DCA which is amounting to $500+ monthly, he is not an aggressive investor but a passionate investor. I call him a passionate investor because he has the passion to invest but people like Michael Saylor and Elon Musk can buy bitcoin of $1 billion and this is the aggressive investors JayJuanGee is talking about and not the peasant investors.

[Solokan]

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices. Imagine buying bitcoin at 96k and eventually buying again at 80k, an investor actually feels he has gained an equivalent $16k knowing fully well that the market volatility doesn't go downwards always hence there's hope that bitcoin will still go above 96k.

That you buy by DCA does not make you want to always buy at higher prices than the previous buys. This is one of the best advantages of DCA and Discretionary income-based investment strategy. Beginners that understand this trend won't panic nor want to sell off his  bitcoin accumulation over slight market change. Investing by lump-sum is good, but whenever market "dips too low" by their standards, regrets set in because most lump-sum investments are not done with only discretionary income and sometimes greed-motivated.

yes the point is DCA is a good way to accumulate btc and certainly by using the DCA method I personally also get good benefits. but in my opinion buying btc does not have to be DCA because using any system in my opinion is a good way for example Average down or others are also good as long as we have the goal of storing our btc for the long term because of course in my opinion someone does not succeed in investing in btc because they do not store it for the long term. because if we store btc for the long term buying when it is low or high of course we will be lucky in the future because btc will never disappoint its holders as long as we are strong enough to hold btc and do not panic selling when we get a loss and of course only sell when we get a profit.

but the dca method is indeed the easiest to do because we can buy without thinking about the price of btc and indeed with the fluctuations in the price of btc sometimes we are lucky to buy btc at a cheap price.

[Zackz5000]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

This means that the investor has not yet fully acquired knowledge. You said that the investor invests beyond their means. But if you look at the investment rules, you can see that it is said to invest using discretionary income. Investment should not be considered a burden. Investment should be considered as your strength. There is no specific time to invest in Bitcoin because its market fluctuates rapidly. If you only want to invest in the deep, then now is a very good opportunity for you. Now if an investor uses the opportunity to invest beyond his means, it can be said to be his mistake. If an investor invests and has to break the investment within a few days, then he will definitely face losses.

In my opinion, it is important for any investor to gain the right knowledge before starting an investment. Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme by investing in the short term. Bitcoin is an opportunity to build your wealth by investing in the long term.

You will only get little fraction of Bitcoin if you keep only investing in Bitcoin during the dip and it's not a good method or strategy of investing into Bitcoin as an investor you are suppose to be accumulating Bitcoin at all season during the dip or not expecially for new investors who just started Bitcoin investment, accumulating only during the dip is considered as trading and it will delay your investment journey meanwhile with the DCA strategy you can accumulate Bitcoin at any price gradually increase your Bitcoin size either weekly or monthly and hodl for long.

Also gaining the right knowledge before Investing into Bitcoin is good but how long can you keep waiting to get the right knowledge for it is better and important to get started first and figure out more about Bitcoin investment along your accumulation process because if you decide to be waiting to get the right Bitcoin knowledge you could wait for ever without even getting what you want so my advise is that you should get started if you have your discretionary income ready and learn more along the line.

[Mayor of ogba]

You can aswell get those proper knowledge when you have already started buying bitcoin because i believe you will know more when you are into proper with your little knowledge at first, bitcoin investment is not too hard to know as people may think first thing is to get started when your Discretionary income is ready to avoid procastinating while trying to gain proper knowledge.

It's not too hard, yet people may be inclined to drop their bags even if they see even a bit of red.

To avoid this, knowledge should be built up beforehand.

Building up bitcoin knowledge before you start investing in bitcoin will not even save you from not selling off your bitcoin portfolio if there's a dump in bitcoin price. Even old investors who have built up knowledge about bitcoin ended up selling off their bitcoin portfolio before a dump could happen because they invested in bitcoin in the wrong way or aggressively, which put them in the position of not meeting up with their daily demands all the time. So even though you have good knowledge about bitcoin or not, before you start to invest in bitcoin, if you want to hold your bitcoin portfolio for a very long time, you have to invest in bitcoin in such a way that it will not stop you from sorting out your daily expenses all the time, and for you to do that, you have to use your discretionary income or the money you can afford to lose to invest in bitcoin since the money is not allocated to solve any of your daily expenses.

[JayJuanGee]

There can also be variations of right and  variations of wrong, since some folks  will have had invested into bitcoin aggressively  and others will have invested into bitcoin whimpily.  Some persons might  have become more  aggressive with the passage of time, and others might have become more whimpy with the  passage of time.  I doubt that the matter is black  and white, even though there are coiners and there are no  coiners, yet at the same time, some coiners have been into bitcoin for longer periods than others, yet even some of the longer term bitcoiners might have made mistakes of either not accumulating enough BTC or selling  too much too soon... or sometimes leveraging and/or becoming overly aggressive and recking themselves in the process of "investing into bitcoin."

I will say the aggressive investors are those who have money to invest big amounts at once or whenever they are investing. People like Elon Musk invest aggressively.

My definition of being aggressive in investing into bitcoin does not have much of anything to do with the amount of money invested, but instead measuring how much to invest from the discretionary income, with some of the same ideas as Ruttoshi outlined.  

Within my thinking, a person who invests a high percentage (or maybe close to all) of his discretionary income would be considered to be investing aggressively and a person who invests very little of his discretionary income would be considered to be investing whimpily... so there are a lot of variations, that do not specifically depend on the amount that you earn, yet instead depends on how much of the extra money that you use (after accounting for expenses) to invest into bitcoin, and a person who invests beyond his discretionary income is being overly aggressive, unless he has back up funds that he can use for such investment from time to time purposes of investing beyond his discretionary income.

It usually is not very helpful to make comparisons of what you do with people who have outrageous levels of wealth (like Elon).  The financial circumstances of the very wealthy are likely quite different from an overwhelming majority of normal people, even though some of the same principles would still apply in terms of considering in coming cash versus expenses, but then they will likely  have  debt instruments and other investments, too... passive cashflows and active cashflows..  

If you want to compare poor people to rich people, then you may well need to outline some examples, yet it can still be difficult to make  such comparisons, unless you are being specific about some of the variables, since wealthy people also have a lot of back up sources of income, even if they also might use a lot of debt instruments too.

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DCA doesn't even encourage buying at higher price, DCA allows you to buy at all the price level and encourages to increase your buy when there is a dip if you have the capacity.

You are mixing DCA and buying on dip.  Strict DCA does not vary.. just buy every week depending on how much money is available and not based on whether the BTC  price is UP or down.

As for most investors that buy lump-sum, they mostly understand the drill, that if there is a dip, they are likely going to buy more,

Now you are mixing lump sum with buying on the dip... if you are buying on the dip, then you are buying on the dip.  Lump sum is a slightly different concept and relates to buying right away once extra money comes in... Yeah, if you have extra money come in, then you can defer buying right away based on time (that would be spread out the buys like DCA),  or you can defer buying right away by waiting for the BTC price to  drop (which might not happen).  If you choose not to defer any of the buys, then you are buying right away with that extra money that came in.  

Of course, you can divide the money and describe what you are doing however you like, yet if you are waiting to buy on dips, even if you use a lot of money, that is not lump sum buying, merely because you have saved that money to buy on dips.. The three categories of buying are different, even if you might choose to combine your buying techniques, you should still recognize and appreciate how each of the three categories are different from each other.

because it avails them the opportunity, in fact they mostly see it as the fear of losing out(FOMO) if they don't invest when there is a dip, it's only a kindergarten investors that panics when there is dip, however nobody is encouraged to invest his total income, at least to reduce any form of panic if the market is unstable.

Sure the concept of fomo (fear of missing out) involves emotion, yet I thought that FOMO frequently comes into play when someone jumps into an investment without thinking about it and tends to buy on the way up rather than buying on the way down...

When we engage in DCA, buying on dips, lump sum investing  and even front-loading our bitcoin investment by trying to buy as much as we can on a regular bases earlier in time, then we are likely lessening the chances that we are going to feel FOMO because we  had already been buying on a regular, persistent, ongoing and perhaps even aggressive way.  Many times normies will feel FOMO when they had insufficiently and/or inadequately prepared for UP, and then they end up panic buying because they feel that they do not have enough BTC.

We do not necessarily need to argue about definitions, even though I personally think that you (Spaceman1000$) are using several of the terms in a wrong and confusing way.

Investing aggressively is not only for the rich people like alone, though they have a strong financial strength that will make them in a situation to buy aggressively than someone with a small discretionary income

You second statement has completed everything and said it all. "Though" means they have the superior power to buy bitcoin massively and that is the aggressive investment. If an investor bought some unit every month as a DCA which is amounting to $500+ monthly, he is not an aggressive investor but a passionate investor. I call him a passionate investor because he has the passion to invest but people like Michael Saylor and Elon Musk can buy bitcoin of $1 billion and this is the aggressive investors JayJuanGee is talking about and not the peasant investors.

In the context that we are talking about being aggressive as compared to being whimpy, I am not comfortable making those kinds of comparisons of very wealthy folks to regular folks, and we seem to be getting off topic if we are trying to make those kinds of comparisons when we are using the terms aggressive and suggesting whether a poor person can be aggressive in his investment, which I think that poor people an be aggressive when they are choosing to invest with  large portions of their discretionary income, and they are being overly aggressive when they are investing  in bitcoin beyond the level of their discretionary income, and sure sometimes they might accidentally invest in an overaggressive way rather than merely investing aggressively because they made mistakes in the calculation of their discretionary income, and they accidentally spent from money they needed for their expenses.  So frequently we talk about investing as aggressively as you are able to do, yet without over doing it and without recking yourself based on failures/refusals to adequately prepare back up funds and to invest into bitcoin from within the bounds of your discretionary income.

[Mehmet69]

There is a certain value that come from both investing into bitcoin and also continuing to study bitcoin, without presuming  that we know more than we know.

So any of us could end up becoming  arrogant in regards to bitcoin, and we might end up losing our own focus in regards to how to build our bitcoin  investment and to be able  to continue to hold it and/or maintain it without causing ourselves to go crazy by  the ongoing (and likely inevitable) volatility in the short-to-medium term.  Volatility on the way up and on the way down can have stressful repercussions and  some  kind of a need for a plan in regards to how to deal  with some  of the extremes that should already be somewhat expected even though the extremes can frequently feel like they are exceeding expectations... so in that regard some needs to prepare financially and psychologically for happenings beyond expectations.

One thing I've learned in my short period of bitcoin investment is that dips and downward volatility causes higher panic when you don't investment with discretion. Also, buying by DCA also eases the stress of downward volatility since an investor seizes every dip to buy and has little or no time to think about the previous one bought at higher prices.

In my own opinion, what greatly cause panic among Investors is when they invest more than they can afford, like investing what they can't do away with, but when you invest only what you can do away with, and you are holding for a very long time, you will always be calm regardless of the market condition because you know that no matter what happens to the value of Bitcoin, it can always recover and rallies back on the longer run and even to a more better height, so as we are investing in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to invest only what we can do away without for a very long time.

This means that the investor has not yet fully acquired knowledge. You said that the investor invests beyond their means. But if you look at the investment rules, you can see that it is said to invest using discretionary income. Investment should not be considered a burden. Investment should be considered as your strength. There is no specific time to invest in Bitcoin because its market fluctuates rapidly. If you only want to invest in the deep, then now is a very good opportunity for you. Now if an investor uses the opportunity to invest beyond his means, it can be said to be his mistake. If an investor invests and has to break the investment within a few days, then he will definitely face losses.

In my opinion, it is important for any investor to gain the right knowledge before starting an investment. Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme by investing in the short term. Bitcoin is an opportunity to build your wealth by investing in the long term.

You will only get little fraction of Bitcoin if you keep only investing in Bitcoin during the dip and it's not a good method or strategy of investing into Bitcoin as an investor you are suppose to be accumulating Bitcoin at all season during the dip or not expecially for new investors who just started Bitcoin investment, accumulating only during the dip is considered as trading and it will delay your investment journey meanwhile with the DCA strategy you can accumulate Bitcoin at any price gradually increase your Bitcoin size either weekly or monthly and hodl for long.

Also gaining the right knowledge before Investing into Bitcoin is good but how long can you keep waiting to get the right knowledge for it is better and important to get started first and figure out more about Bitcoin investment along your accumulation process because if you decide to be waiting to get the right Bitcoin knowledge you could wait for ever without even getting what you want so my advise is that you should get started if you have your discretionary income ready and learn more along the line.

Of course. We cannot wait to gain investment knowledge. Because every moment is important for investment. I prefer to invest in the DCA method. But if someone invests beyond their means due to a lack of accurate information, they will not be able to invest for long.  In a short time, the investment will have to be broken to meet their needs. Which can be considered a disadvantage for an investor. Most newcomers first start investing to earn money, later they realize that Bitcoin is not a short-term money-making scheme. And before they understand this, they start panicking after seeing the volatility of the market. As a result, they either stop investing or start investing excess money in the deposit. And both these things are harmful for any investor.

Therefore, I would request a newbie to start investing only after gaining proper knowledge about the DCA method and continue investing for the long term.